Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life
Hi all, I currently work for the team responsible for the ftp site hosting the osm data available at this address: http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ I just want to let you know that there are no plan to delete this dataset. As any other releases of CanVec, it should remain on the ftp as an archive. Although we did receive the request to update the osm version of CanVec, there are no resources currently allocated to do so. Regards, Jean-Sebastien From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: November 15, 2014 17:34 To: 'Darren Wiebe' Cc: 'Talk-CA OpenStreetMap' Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life Well, since we do not have received any response/insurance from NRCan that the ftp site will keep running, I would like to have a backup location, just in case the official ftp site stops to provide data. I would be very sad if the data eventually ends up being no longer available. However, since I used to be the NRCan contact (now retired), I wish to make clear that my answer is from an OSM user’s point of view, not an NRCan answer (official or not !-) Best Daniel From: Darren Wiebe [mailto:dar...@aleph-com.net] Sent: November-15-14 16:21 To: Daniel Begin Cc: davis.christop...@gmail.commailto:davis.christop...@gmail.com; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life Would it be acceptable to mirror the Canvec data in the FTP site? I'd gladly put up the resources to serve up the data. Darren Wiebe First, a short clarification – I do not know if Canvec will no longer (never again) be supplied in OSM format, I just know there are currently no resources allocated to work with the OSM community. Second, about the Canvec conversion scripts … - They are owned by the crown – I would be surprised they could/would be released to the public; - They were all developed with FME – a powerful tool – but you usually need to pay to get the appropriate licences… Third, concerning potential “diffs” files … - There are some references to diffs files in talk-ca archives (some were even available for few NTS through ftp site) - Maybe diffs files are available for Canvec? I do not know. Forth, my main concern is more about the sustained availability of the data in the ftp site ☹ Best, Daniel From: Chris Davis [mailto:davis.christop...@gmail.commailto:davis.christop...@gmail.com] Sent: November-15-14 01:56 To: Darren Wiebe Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life I think it would be great to see newer CanVec data in OSM as well. BC's vegetation coverage from the last import in 2010 (tagged as natural:wood) is horribly patchy and quite ugly in the OSM basemap and other maps. Chris On 14 November 2014 18:25, Darren Wiebe dar...@aleph-com.netmailto:dar...@aleph-com.net wrote: I can only address point 4. I'd love to see newer Canvec data. Darren Wiebe On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Andrew andrew.alli...@teksavvy.commailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello List: Given Daniel's reply that Canvec will no longer be supplied in OSM format, I'm curious about: 1: I don't know what I don't know to begin with :-) 2: Are the scripts / programs available to do the conversion still available? 3: Was there ever a program written to produce a diffs file? 4: Is there a desire to have newer Canvec data converted to OSM? Just throwing this out there. Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life
Bonjour OSM lovers! First, a short clarification – I do not know if Canvec will no longer (never again) be supplied in OSM format, I just know there are currently no resources allocated to work with the OSM community. Second, about the Canvec conversion scripts … - They are owned by the crown – I would be surprised they could/would be released to the public; - They were all developed with FME – a powerful tool – but you usually need to pay to get the appropriate licences… Third, concerning potential “diffs” files … - There are some references to diffs files in talk-ca archives (some were even available for few NTS through ftp site) - Maybe diffs files are available for Canvec? I do not know. Forth, my main concern is more about the sustained availability of the data in the ftp site L Best, Daniel From: Chris Davis [mailto:davis.christop...@gmail.com] Sent: November-15-14 01:56 To: Darren Wiebe Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life I think it would be great to see newer CanVec data in OSM as well. BC's vegetation coverage from the last import in 2010 (tagged as natural:wood) is horribly patchy and quite ugly in the OSM basemap and other maps. Chris On 14 November 2014 18:25, Darren Wiebe dar...@aleph-com.net wrote: I can only address point 4. I'd love to see newer Canvec data. Darren Wiebe On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Andrew andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello List: Given Daniel's reply that Canvec will no longer be supplied in OSM format, I'm curious about: 1: I don't know what I don't know to begin with :-) 2: Are the scripts / programs available to do the conversion still available? 3: Was there ever a program written to produce a diffs file? 4: Is there a desire to have newer Canvec data converted to OSM? Just throwing this out there. Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life
Well, since we do not have received any response/insurance from NRCan that the ftp site will keep running, I would like to have a backup location, just in case the official ftp site stops to provide data. I would be very sad if the data eventually ends up being no longer available. However, since I used to be the NRCan contact (now retired), I wish to make clear that my answer is from an OSM user’s point of view, not an NRCan answer (official or not !-) Best Daniel From: Darren Wiebe [mailto:dar...@aleph-com.net] Sent: November-15-14 16:21 To: Daniel Begin Cc: davis.christop...@gmail.com; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life Would it be acceptable to mirror the Canvec data in the FTP site? I'd gladly put up the resources to serve up the data. Darren Wiebe First, a short clarification – I do not know if Canvec will no longer (never again) be supplied in OSM format, I just know there are currently no resources allocated to work with the OSM community. Second, about the Canvec conversion scripts … - They are owned by the crown – I would be surprised they could/would be released to the public; - They were all developed with FME – a powerful tool – but you usually need to pay to get the appropriate licences… Third, concerning potential “diffs” files … - There are some references to diffs files in talk-ca archives (some were even available for few NTS through ftp site) - Maybe diffs files are available for Canvec? I do not know. Forth, my main concern is more about the sustained availability of the data in the ftp site L Best, Daniel From: Chris Davis [mailto:davis.christop...@gmail.com] Sent: November-15-14 01:56 To: Darren Wiebe Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life I think it would be great to see newer CanVec data in OSM as well. BC's vegetation coverage from the last import in 2010 (tagged as natural:wood) is horribly patchy and quite ugly in the OSM basemap and other maps. Chris On 14 November 2014 18:25, Darren Wiebe dar...@aleph-com.net wrote: I can only address point 4. I'd love to see newer Canvec data. Darren Wiebe On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Andrew andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello List: Given Daniel's reply that Canvec will no longer be supplied in OSM format, I'm curious about: 1: I don't know what I don't know to begin with :-) 2: Are the scripts / programs available to do the conversion still available? 3: Was there ever a program written to produce a diffs file? 4: Is there a desire to have newer Canvec data converted to OSM? Just throwing this out there. Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life
Hi guys, I already have a mirror of the Canvec data, I will make public if/when government data disappear. However, feel free to make some other backups, just in case. Pierre Le 15/11/2014 17:33, Daniel Begin a écrit : Well, since we do not have received any response/insurance from NRCan that the ftp site will keep running, I would like to have a backup location, just in case the official ftp site stops to provide data. I would be very sad if the data eventually ends up being no longer available. However, since I used to be the NRCan contact (now retired), I wish to make clear that my answer is from an OSM user’s point of view, not an NRCan answer (official or not !-) Best Daniel *From:*Darren Wiebe [mailto:dar...@aleph-com.net] *Sent:* November-15-14 16:21 *To:* Daniel Begin *Cc:* davis.christop...@gmail.com; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life Would it be acceptable to mirror the Canvec data in the FTP site? I'd gladly put up the resources to serve up the data. Darren Wiebe First, a short clarification – I do not know if Canvec will no longer (never again) be supplied in OSM format, I just know there are currently no resources allocated to work with the OSM community. Second, about the Canvec conversion scripts … - They are owned by the crown – I would be surprised they could/would be released to the public; - They were all developed with FME – a powerful tool – but you usually need to pay to get the appropriate licences… Third, concerning potential “diffs” files … - There are some references to diffs files in talk-ca archives (some were even available for few NTS through ftp site) - Maybe diffs files are available for Canvec? I do not know. Forth, my main concern is more about the sustained availability of the data in the ftp site L Best, Daniel *From:*Chris Davis [mailto:davis.christop...@gmail.com mailto:davis.christop...@gmail.com] *Sent:* November-15-14 01:56 *To:* Darren Wiebe *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life I think it would be great to see newer CanVec data in OSM as well. BC's vegetation coverage from the last import in 2010 (tagged as natural:wood) is horribly patchy and quite ugly in the OSM basemap and other maps. Chris On 14 November 2014 18:25, Darren Wiebe dar...@aleph-com.net mailto:dar...@aleph-com.net wrote: I can only address point 4. I'd love to see newer Canvec data. *Darren Wiebe* On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Andrew andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello List: Given Daniel's reply that Canvec will no longer be supplied in OSM format, I'm curious about: 1: I don't know what I don't know to begin with :-) 2: Are the scripts / programs available to do the conversion still available? 3: Was there ever a program written to produce a diffs file? 4: Is there a desire to have newer Canvec data converted to OSM? Just throwing this out there. Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life
I can only address point 4. I'd love to see newer Canvec data. *Darren Wiebe* On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Andrew andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello List: Given Daniel's reply that Canvec will no longer be supplied in OSM format, I'm curious about: 1: I don't know what I don't know to begin with :-) 2: Are the scripts / programs available to do the conversion still available? 3: Was there ever a program written to produce a diffs file? 4: Is there a desire to have newer Canvec data converted to OSM? Just throwing this out there. Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Bringing canvec to OSM back to life
I think it would be great to see newer CanVec data in OSM as well. BC's vegetation coverage from the last import in 2010 (tagged as natural:wood) is horribly patchy and quite ugly in the OSM basemap and other maps. Chris On 14 November 2014 18:25, Darren Wiebe dar...@aleph-com.net wrote: I can only address point 4. I'd love to see newer Canvec data. *Darren Wiebe* On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Andrew andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello List: Given Daniel's reply that Canvec will no longer be supplied in OSM format, I'm curious about: 1: I don't know what I don't know to begin with :-) 2: Are the scripts / programs available to do the conversion still available? 3: Was there ever a program written to produce a diffs file? 4: Is there a desire to have newer Canvec data converted to OSM? Just throwing this out there. Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
