Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

2015-01-25 Par sujet Andreas Goss

Bref une nouvelle relation encore peu utilisée veut remplacer une
relation ancienne; sans réel changement fonctionnel.


If google translate got this right... no we don't want to replace it 
with another relation, we just want to use addr:street.


Maybe you in France have access to government data, but we in Germany 
mostly don't and many countries neither, in some places maybe not even 
the government has it.


And then those relations just make everything more complicated, lack 
members or mappers break them by accident. I just started cleaning up 
them and that already got rid of most of them, because they were 
utterly incomplete. Why should I support and keep a tagging schema when 
all over Bavaria maybe 5 areas have a dozen complete (associated)Street 
relations?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France

2014-07-20 Par sujet Andreas Goss

and milk


The food and drink tags are the one I didn't really touch yet or let's 
say later realized it was pretty complicated.


The problem is that if you look in taginfo you see a lot of different 
vending machines for some kind of food/drink products. This would result 
in a lot of different vending= tags. So the question is do we really 
want this or do we use vending=drinks + drink:milk=yes, obviously this 
means that you also need dink:soft_drink=yes instead of just assuming it 
like now.


I honestly not a huge fan of that, but on the other hand I also don't 
want half of the vending= tags to be for different kind of foods from
asparagus, tomatoes over potatos to cheese and eggs. Maybe meet somwhere 
in the middle and use vending=vegetables + food:...


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[OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France

2014-07-13 Par sujet Andreas Goss
I'm cleaning up vending and saw that vending_machine=yes was used in 
some places in France: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4am


1. amenity=bicycle_rental
I don't see the point. The tag itself already indicates the difference 
to shop=bicycle+service:bicycle:rental=yes


2. public_transport
Probably indicates vending=public_transport_tickets, but would it be 
wrong to set the tags if the is a drinkfood vending machine? At least 
you would need vending=* . I can see the idea, but I don't think we 
should tag everything on the platform with ...=yes (I could for example 
see that causes problems with the operator= tag as I for example have 
seen railway vending machines as bus stops close to the train station). 
In some places there was also a great public_transport schema in place, 
then I would just put the node for the amenity=vending_machine + 
vending=public_transport_tickets into the stop_area relation.


What do you think?

Greetings from Germany,
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France

2014-07-13 Par sujet Andreas Goss

1. amenity=bicycle_rental

The good tag is vending=yes, rent process not available at all station.
It's more clear in french translation
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=bicycle_rental


I don't speak French so this is what google gives me: yes for stations 
that have a possibility of payment and ticket printer (registration 
shortest possible time in these stations).


First of all I don't understand why this tag covers payment, when we 
have payment= which can be used in many ways.


Then I assume you always need some kind of ticket for the bike?

So then it depends if you just want to set payment:ticket (or something 
like that) on the station or do you include the vending machine, because 
then you might as well just set payment:cash=yes (I mean if I got to a 
cinema I also don't tagg it with vending=yes, because i can get the 
ticket right there and pay with cash). The stations where you can't do 
this are then different, because payment:cash=no. Maybe we should then 
consider a new value for payment like only and then you set 
payment:vcub_ticket=only. At least I think that is the direction this 
should be going.

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