Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations
Bref une nouvelle relation encore peu utilisée veut remplacer une relation ancienne; sans réel changement fonctionnel. If google translate got this right... no we don't want to replace it with another relation, we just want to use addr:street. Maybe you in France have access to government data, but we in Germany mostly don't and many countries neither, in some places maybe not even the government has it. And then those relations just make everything more complicated, lack members or mappers break them by accident. I just started cleaning up them and that already got rid of most of them, because they were utterly incomplete. Why should I support and keep a tagging schema when all over Bavaria maybe 5 areas have a dozen complete (associated)Street relations? __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
and milk The food and drink tags are the one I didn't really touch yet or let's say later realized it was pretty complicated. The problem is that if you look in taginfo you see a lot of different vending machines for some kind of food/drink products. This would result in a lot of different vending= tags. So the question is do we really want this or do we use vending=drinks + drink:milk=yes, obviously this means that you also need dink:soft_drink=yes instead of just assuming it like now. I honestly not a huge fan of that, but on the other hand I also don't want half of the vending= tags to be for different kind of foods from asparagus, tomatoes over potatos to cheese and eggs. Maybe meet somwhere in the middle and use vending=vegetables + food:... __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
I'm cleaning up vending and saw that vending_machine=yes was used in some places in France: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4am 1. amenity=bicycle_rental I don't see the point. The tag itself already indicates the difference to shop=bicycle+service:bicycle:rental=yes 2. public_transport Probably indicates vending=public_transport_tickets, but would it be wrong to set the tags if the is a drinkfood vending machine? At least you would need vending=* . I can see the idea, but I don't think we should tag everything on the platform with ...=yes (I could for example see that causes problems with the operator= tag as I for example have seen railway vending machines as bus stops close to the train station). In some places there was also a great public_transport schema in place, then I would just put the node for the amenity=vending_machine + vending=public_transport_tickets into the stop_area relation. What do you think? Greetings from Germany, Andi __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
1. amenity=bicycle_rental The good tag is vending=yes, rent process not available at all station. It's more clear in french translation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=bicycle_rental I don't speak French so this is what google gives me: yes for stations that have a possibility of payment and ticket printer (registration shortest possible time in these stations). First of all I don't understand why this tag covers payment, when we have payment= which can be used in many ways. Then I assume you always need some kind of ticket for the bike? So then it depends if you just want to set payment:ticket (or something like that) on the station or do you include the vending machine, because then you might as well just set payment:cash=yes (I mean if I got to a cinema I also don't tagg it with vending=yes, because i can get the ticket right there and pay with cash). The stations where you can't do this are then different, because payment:cash=no. Maybe we should then consider a new value for payment like only and then you set payment:vcub_ticket=only. At least I think that is the direction this should be going. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr