Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
and milk The food and drink tags are the one I didn't really touch yet or let's say later realized it was pretty complicated. The problem is that if you look in taginfo you see a lot of different vending machines for some kind of food/drink products. This would result in a lot of different vending= tags. So the question is do we really want this or do we use vending=drinks + drink:milk=yes, obviously this means that you also need dink:soft_drink=yes instead of just assuming it like now. I honestly not a huge fan of that, but on the other hand I also don't want half of the vending= tags to be for different kind of foods from asparagus, tomatoes over potatos to cheese and eggs. Maybe meet somwhere in the middle and use vending=vegetables + food:... __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
Le 13/07/2014 21:31, Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : Le 13/07/2014 21:02, Andreas Goss a écrit : 1. amenity=bicycle_rental The good tag is vending=yes, rent process not available at all station. It's more clear in french translation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=bicycle_rental I don't speak French so this is what google gives me: "yes for stations that have a possibility of payment and ticket printer (registration shortest possible time in these stations)." First of all I don't understand why this tag covers payment, when we have payment= which can be used in many ways. Yes, you right. Then I assume you always need some kind of ticket for the bike? No. You register for a subscription (from 1 day to 1 years). In fact there is no a physical automaton vending machine. The machine sell subscription, no physical objects. It's not just a payment point. So then it depends if you just want to set payment:ticket (or something like that) on the station or do you include the vending machine, because then you might as well just set payment:cash=yes (I mean if I got to a cinema I also don't tagg it with vending=yes, because i can get the ticket right there and pay with cash). The stations where you can't do this are then different, because payment:cash=no. Maybe we should then consider a new value for payment like only and then you set payment:vcub_ticket=only. At least I think that is the direction this should be going. So vending=subscription payment:debit_cards=yes and no vending_machine key I change the key in OSM and the configuration of this data integration into the tool Osmose QA. Nevertheless there is still an other vending_machine=true in Bordeaux. By the way, after flower and milk, I just add yesterday a vending=ink_cartridge in Bordeaux. Frédéric. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
Le 13/07/2014 21:02, Andreas Goss a écrit : 1. amenity=bicycle_rental The good tag is vending=yes, rent process not available at all station. It's more clear in french translation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=bicycle_rental I don't speak French so this is what google gives me: "yes for stations that have a possibility of payment and ticket printer (registration shortest possible time in these stations)." First of all I don't understand why this tag covers payment, when we have payment= which can be used in many ways. Yes, you right. Then I assume you always need some kind of ticket for the bike? No. You register for a subscription (from 1 day to 1 years). In fact there is no a physical automaton vending machine. The machine sell subscription, no physical objects. It's not just a payment point. So then it depends if you just want to set payment:ticket (or something like that) on the station or do you include the vending machine, because then you might as well just set payment:cash=yes (I mean if I got to a cinema I also don't tagg it with vending=yes, because i can get the ticket right there and pay with cash). The stations where you can't do this are then different, because payment:cash=no. Maybe we should then consider a new value for payment like only and then you set payment:vcub_ticket=only. At least I think that is the direction this should be going. So vending=subscription payment:debit_cards=yes and no vending_machine key right ? Frédéric. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
1. amenity=bicycle_rental The good tag is vending=yes, rent process not available at all station. It's more clear in french translation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=bicycle_rental I don't speak French so this is what google gives me: "yes for stations that have a possibility of payment and ticket printer (registration shortest possible time in these stations)." First of all I don't understand why this tag covers payment, when we have payment= which can be used in many ways. Then I assume you always need some kind of ticket for the bike? So then it depends if you just want to set payment:ticket (or something like that) on the station or do you include the vending machine, because then you might as well just set payment:cash=yes (I mean if I got to a cinema I also don't tagg it with vending=yes, because i can get the ticket right there and pay with cash). The stations where you can't do this are then different, because payment:cash=no. Maybe we should then consider a new value for payment like only and then you set payment:vcub_ticket=only. At least I think that is the direction this should be going. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
Le 13/07/2014 19:09, Andreas Goss a écrit : I'm cleaning up vending and saw that vending_machine=yes was used in some places in France: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4am 1. amenity=bicycle_rental I don't see the point. The tag itself already indicates the difference to shop=bicycle+service:bicycle:rental=yes The good tag is vending=yes, rent process not available at all station. It's more clear in french translation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=bicycle_rental For vending_machine=yes on network=VCUB (Bordeaux) it's my fault. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bordeaux/VCUB 2. public_transport Probably indicates vending=public_transport_tickets, but would it be wrong to set the tags if the is a drink&food vending machine? At least you would need vending=* . I can see the idea, but I don't think we should tag everything on the platform with ...=yes (I could for example see that causes problems with the operator= tag as I for example have seen railway vending machines as bus stops close to the train station). In some places there was also a great public_transport schema in place, then I would just put the node for the amenity=vending_machine + vending=public_transport_tickets into the stop_area relation. What do you think? In Lyon I think it's the same problem, it's for ticket on tram station. Greetings from Germany, Andi __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] vending_machine=yes in France
I'm cleaning up vending and saw that vending_machine=yes was used in some places in France: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4am 1. amenity=bicycle_rental I don't see the point. The tag itself already indicates the difference to shop=bicycle+service:bicycle:rental=yes 2. public_transport Probably indicates vending=public_transport_tickets, but would it be wrong to set the tags if the is a drink&food vending machine? At least you would need vending=* . I can see the idea, but I don't think we should tag everything on the platform with ...=yes (I could for example see that causes problems with the operator= tag as I for example have seen railway vending machines as bus stops close to the train station). In some places there was also a great public_transport schema in place, then I would just put the node for the amenity=vending_machine + vending=public_transport_tickets into the stop_area relation. What do you think? Greetings from Germany, Andi __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
