Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Hi all,

The OSM data for the FHRS comparison tool 
> hasn’t been updated for a few days 
because – as Robert Whittaker mentioned – the Geofabrik extract hasn’t been 
updated in that time. You can of course continue to use the tool, but please 
bear in mind that you’ll be working with slightly out-of-date OSM data.

Just to let you know, I have improved the graphs which show progress in the 
Quarterly Project at 
>. So far we’ve 
increased the percentage of FHRS establishments matched using an fhrs:id and 
addr:postcode from 1.70% to 3.08%, which is great progress but there’s still 
plenty to do!

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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Dear all,

The FHRS/OSM comparison tool > has some new features which should 
help with the Autumn Quarterly Project 
>.

*Distant matches*

There is now a table at the bottom of each district page listing those FHRS 
matches for which the OSM and FHRS positions are > 500m apart. For these 
matches, the overview map also has a dotted line showing the difference in 
positions. N.B. OSM positions are usually more accurate as FHRS positions seem 
to be reverse-geocoded from postcodes. These distant matches may therefore 
indicate a problem with the FHRS data rather than OSM data, but are worth 
checking.

*Duplicate fhrs:ids*

There is also a table at the bottom of each district page listing all of the 
OSM entities which have an fhrs:id tag that is shared with at least one of the 
OSM entities in this district. This can indicate an error, although sometimes 
FHRS IDs do correspond to more than one OSM entity.

The suggested matches map no longer suggests matches using FHRS IDs that have 
already been assigned to an OSM entity. (Thanks to spindr for spotting this 
one.)

*Updating OSM data*

The update script now runs a bit later in the morning (after the Geofabrik OSM 
extract becomes available) and thanks to some optimisations, takes much less 
time to complete. The lag between updating OSM and seeing your updates appear 
in the comparison tool should therefore have reduced a bit, although not 
disappeared completely!

I hope you continue to enjoy using the comparison tool. As ever, please report 
any bugs or feature requests on GitHub 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your email. Hope you don’t mind but I’ve cc’d Talk-GB in case this 
is relevant to anyone else.

Unfortunately there is a bit of a lag because the Geofabrik extract for Great 
Britain is a bit out of date by the time it’s downloaded. The extract that is 
available right now at <http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/great-britain.html 
<http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/great-britain.html>> seems to have been up 
since about 6am and contains OSM data up to 8.28pm yesterday. 

However, the comparison tool downloaded its OSM data for today’s update very 
early this morning. This was updated at 5.45am yesterday so presumably contains 
OSM data up to approx. Tue 8.30pm (2 days ago). Hopefully your update will 
therefore appear on the comparison tool tomorrow…

It seemed best to update the comparison pages overnight to ease server load but 
I might look at updating them a little later in the day to take advantage of 
the more up-to-date Geofabrik extract. I’ve created a GitHub issue for this 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/29 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/29>> and there is a 
pre-existing issue for displaying at the bottom of each page the age of the OSM 
data used <https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/4 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/4>>.

Best wishes,
Greg


> On 10 Nov 2016, at 16:48, Steve Doerr <doerr.step...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Greg.
> 
> Is your OSM extract updating OK? I've yet to see any effect from changes I 
> made in OSM on 8 November, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4489442420 
> (in Gravesham).
> 
> Steve
> 
> On 09/11/2016 07:36, Greg wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve now implemented Steve’s request for more clickable links in the 
>> overview map for each district at 
>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/>. In addition to opening the web 
>> page for each FHRS establishment, you can now open the OSM page for each 
>> relevant node/way or load the node/way in JOSM. I decided to go with a JOSM 
>> link rather than a general one so that the ‘overview’ map links match the 
>> ‘suggested matches’ map links, which automatically add tags to the OSM 
>> node/way. Anyone not using JOSM can easily follow the OSM link and then 
>> click the Edit button.
>> 
>> I’ve also modified most links so that they open in a new tab/window by 
>> default as it seems more useful to be able to keep the map view open in the 
>> original tab/window.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2016, at 22:22, Steve Doerr <doerr.step...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for providing this tool, Greg. I've found it very useful so far for 
>>> adding address information based on the possible matches identified on the 
>>> second map, where most of the dots have a link both to OSM and to the FHRS 
>>> entry.
>>> 
>>> However, I've now reached the stage where I need to look more at the upper 
>>> map, where there seem to be fewer clickable links. If you could provide 
>>> links to OSM for every dot on the map, that would be helpful. (If you're 
>>> showing them on your map, you must have derived a long/lat which you could 
>>> link to.)
>>> 
>>> Hoping that this is not an unreasonable request - and apologies if it is.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

Hi all,

I’ve now implemented Steve’s request for more clickable links in the overview 
map for each district at <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/>. In 
addition to opening the web page for each FHRS establishment, you can now open 
the OSM page for each relevant node/way or load the node/way in JOSM. I decided 
to go with a JOSM link rather than a general one so that the ‘overview’ map 
links match the ‘suggested matches’ map links, which automatically add tags to 
the OSM node/way. Anyone not using JOSM can easily follow the OSM link and then 
click the Edit button.

I’ve also modified most links so that they open in a new tab/window by default 
as it seems more useful to be able to keep the map view open in the original 
tab/window.

Thanks,
Greg


> On 16 Oct 2016, at 22:22, Steve Doerr <doerr.step...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for providing this tool, Greg. I've found it very useful so far for 
> adding address information based on the possible matches identified on the 
> second map, where most of the dots have a link both to OSM and to the FHRS 
> entry.
> 
> However, I've now reached the stage where I need to look more at the upper 
> map, where there seem to be fewer clickable links. If you could provide links 
> to OSM for every dot on the map, that would be helpful. (If you're showing 
> them on your map, you must have derived a long/lat which you could link to.)
> 
> Hoping that this is not an unreasonable request - and apologies if it is.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve


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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Hi Phil,

The aim of the project is for mappers to use the FHRS data to improve the 
density of POIs, addresses and postcodes in town centres (see 
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2016_Q4_Project:_Food_Hygiene_Ratings>). 
My comparison tool considers an FHRS establishment to be successfully matched 
with OSM when the fhrs:id tag has been set to the FHRS establishment’s ID 
(visible in the FHRS page’s URL) and when the addr:postcode matches the FHRS 
postcode.

The tool can help by suggesting matches based on location and fuzzy string 
matching – hence the ‘suggested matches’ map, and by displaying all the 
relevant OSM objects and FHRS establishments on the overview map with some 
useful links when clicking on each.

Your example is on the ‘suggested matches’ map so you could click on the ‘Add 
tags in JOSM’ link, which will use JOSM remote control (if enabled and JOSM is 
running) to load that OSM object and ask what potentially useful tags you would 
like to add, taking data from the FHRS database. (You’ll need to format the 
address properly afterwards.)

Should the establishment you’re interested in not be on the ‘suggested matches’ 
map, the ‘overview’ map takes you to the FHRS page 
<http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/71808/> (N.B. the FHRS ID is 
therefore 71808) and you can copy the address details into OSM.

Hope that helps.

Thanks,
Greg


> On 6 Nov 2016, at 15:29, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Greg
> 
> There do seem to be a very large number in FHRS establishments with no
> matching OSM node/way that do have an OSM node. How is this match done?
> 
> For example
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/318139689
> 
> Thanks Phil
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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

The problem with Birmingham, Glasgow and Leeds only having max. 5000 FHRS 
establishments is now fixed. 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/22>

Happy mapping!

Greg


> On 6 Nov 2016, at 14:11, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The FHRS/OSM comparison tool <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/> is 
> updating correctly again. Unfortunately I didn’t get a response from the FSA 
> but did manage to code a workaround, and the update script has run 
> successfully this morning.
> 
> I did however notice another issue; the way the update script interacts with 
> the FHRS API means that currently a maximum of 5000 FHRS establishments are 
> returned for each FHRS authority (N.B. these don’t necessarily tally with the 
> OS Boundary Line districts used to create a page per district). This could 
> cause problems in Birmingham, Glasgow and Leeds, although these areas don’t 
> seem to have many FHRS IDs matched anyway. See 
> <https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/22> for updates in due 
> course.
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 10:37, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Unfortunately the update script for the FHRS/OSM comparison tool
>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/> failed last night. It
>> appears that there is a problem with the FHRS API, which the tool uses
>> to download FHRS information. I will investigate this issue further as
>> soon as possible. You can follow its progress on GitHub:
>> <https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/21>.
>> 
>> You can continue to use the tool but the data was last updated on
>> Tuesday morning rather than this morning.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg


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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Hi all,

Unfortunately the update script for the FHRS/OSM comparison tool
<http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/> failed last night. It
appears that there is a problem with the FHRS API, which the tool uses
to download FHRS information. I will investigate this issue further as
soon as possible. You can follow its progress on GitHub:
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/21>.

You can continue to use the tool but the data was last updated on
Tuesday morning rather than this morning.

Thanks,
Greg


On 30/09/16 17:11, Brian Prangle wrote:
> Hi everyone
> 
> It seems that the idea that got most traction from discussions  is to
> use Food Hygiene Rating <http://ratings.food.gov.uk/>data  from the Food
> Standards Agency to improve the density of POIs, addresses and postcodes
> in town centres.(Town centres are not exclusive - it's just they'll
> provide the most impact for users)
> 
> 1.We have a great tool
> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/>developed some time ago by
> gregrs, whose work we should really recognise by making use of it.
> 2. We could semi-automate  the process if someone wants to build on the
> code developed by Christian Ledermann for schools.
> <https://schools.mapthe.uk/>
> (We might even be very daring and completely automate it! That would
> certainly accelerate our completion of UK postcode data which according
> to Jerry's current estimate of completion will take 2-3 decades)
> 3. There are indications that the FSA might want to assist us.
> 4. This quarter might we try  a couple of new approaches?
> a)collaborate on an area that needs some attention
> b)in addition to improving the map and the community, improve our reach
> by contacting potentially interested organisations/mappers outside the
> reach of this talk group?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

Good point, Dave. The first graph previously included only OSM nodes/ways which 
had been fully matched with fhrs:id and postcode but I have now amended the 
first graph and the ‘overall %’ graph to show nodes/ways with a 
mismatched/missing postcode too.

If anyone would like to improve the graphs, you can find the RMarkdown code on 
GitHub here: [https://github.com/gregrs-uk/fhrs-osm-stats 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/fhrs-osm-stats>]

Thanks,
Greg.


> On 29 Oct 2016, at 13:17, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Greg
> 
> The first graph. Does that represent the addition of just the fhrs:id tag or 
> with a postcode as well?
> 
> Cheers
> DaveF
> 
> On 29/10/2016 12:24, Greg wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve created some graphs to show FHRS completeness and progress so that we 
>> can track the impact of the Quarterly Project. I hope to update the graphs 
>> weekly. Please do have a look here 
>> [http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/graphs.html 
>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/graphs.html>] and let me 
>> know if you have any suggestions.
>> 
>> The graphs have been created using freely available software (R and RStudio) 
>> so if anyone would like access to the code, please let me know and I can pop 
>> it on GitHub.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Oct 2016, at 20:28, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk 
>>> <mailto:gre...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> I’ve been working on some visual analysis of the CSV file data at 
>>> [http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
>>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>] using R but it’s not 
>>> quite ready for public viewing yet…
>>> 
>>> I hope to show the most complete districts in terms of fhrs:id and 
>>> postcode, the districts with the most errors, the districts with the most 
>>> recent progress, the number of districts with zero matches and how that has 
>>> changed, and the number of districts with certain levels of completeness 
>>> (i.e. a histogram).
>>> 
>>> Watch this space!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Oct 2016, at 19:31, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> A bit delayed but I have added fhrs:id to the taginfo script I run. You 
>>>> can see progress for the last few days at:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1693558506
>>>>  
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1693558506>
>>>> 
>>>> I really like the daily data that Greg produces. Is there anyone with some 
>>>> time to try to convert this into a chart/visual tracker? The data is at: 
>>>> http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
>>>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Rob
>>>> 
>>>> On 2 October 2016 at 15:38, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Which tags would you like me to set up a tag-info script for? We can then 
>>>> track these throughout the quarter.
>>>> 
>>>> Rob
>>>> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

Hi all,

I’ve created some graphs to show FHRS completeness and progress so that we can 
track the impact of the Quarterly Project. I hope to update the graphs weekly. 
Please do have a look here 
[http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/graphs.html] and let me know if 
you have any suggestions.

The graphs have been created using freely available software (R and RStudio) so 
if anyone would like access to the code, please let me know and I can pop it on 
GitHub.

Thanks,
Greg


> On 18 Oct 2016, at 20:28, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> I’ve been working on some visual analysis of the CSV file data at 
> [http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>] using R but it’s not quite 
> ready for public viewing yet…
> 
> I hope to show the most complete districts in terms of fhrs:id and postcode, 
> the districts with the most errors, the districts with the most recent 
> progress, the number of districts with zero matches and how that has changed, 
> and the number of districts with certain levels of completeness (i.e. a 
> histogram).
> 
> Watch this space!
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
>> On 18 Oct 2016, at 19:31, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> A bit delayed but I have added fhrs:id to the taginfo script I run. You can 
>> see progress for the last few days at:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1693558506
>>  
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1693558506>
>> 
>> I really like the daily data that Greg produces. Is there anyone with some 
>> time to try to convert this into a chart/visual tracker? The data is at: 
>> http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 2 October 2016 at 15:38, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Which tags would you like me to set up a tag-info script for? We can then 
>> track these throughout the quarter.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
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[Greg]

Hi Rob,

I’ve been working on some visual analysis of the CSV file data at 
[http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/] using R but it’s not quite 
ready for public viewing yet…

I hope to show the most complete districts in terms of fhrs:id and postcode, 
the districts with the most errors, the districts with the most recent 
progress, the number of districts with zero matches and how that has changed, 
and the number of districts with certain levels of completeness (i.e. a 
histogram).

Watch this space!

Thanks,
Greg


> On 18 Oct 2016, at 19:31, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> A bit delayed but I have added fhrs:id to the taginfo script I run. You can 
> see progress for the last few days at:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1693558506
>  
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1693558506>
> 
> I really like the daily data that Greg produces. Is there anyone with some 
> time to try to convert this into a chart/visual tracker? The data is at: 
> http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rob
> 
> On 2 October 2016 at 15:38, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Which tags would you like me to set up a tag-info script for? We can then 
> track these throughout the quarter.
> 
> Rob
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[Greg]

Hi Steve,

I’m glad you’re finding the tool useful and thanks for your suggestion. I’ve 
added a feature request in the issue tracker here 
[https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/20]. I probably won’t have 
time to look at this over the coming week, but I may have time at some point in 
the couple of weeks after this. Of course anyone else is welcome to contribute 
code if they wish.

I think the most useful link would probably be one that loads the OSM node/way 
in JOSM using the remote control function in the same way that the suggested 
matches map links do. Obviously you’d have to put the address details into JOSM 
manually, but you could use the FHRS links on nearby blue dots to find these.

Thanks,
Greg


> On 16 Oct 2016, at 22:22, Steve Doerr <doerr.step...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for providing this tool, Greg. I've found it very useful so far for 
> adding address information based on the possible matches identified on the 
> second map, where most of the dots have a link both to OSM and to the FHRS 
> entry.
> 
> However, I've now reached the stage where I need to look more at the upper 
> map, where there seem to be fewer clickable links. If you could provide links 
> to OSM for every dot on the map, that would be helpful. (If you're showing 
> them on your map, you must have derived a long/lat which you could link to.)
> 
> Hoping that this is not an unreasonable request - and apologies if it is.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2016 07:37, Greg wrote:
>> These district statistics CSV files will now be copied each day to 
>> http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>, so there will be a file 
>> per day in case anyone would like to track progress.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2016, at 21:00, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk 
>>> <mailto:gre...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The python-fhrs-osm tool will now create a CSV file containing statistics 
>>> for each district each day, which should allow detailed tracking. It will 
>>> be located at http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/stats--mm-dd.csv 
>>> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/stats--mm-dd.csv> once the 
>>> tool runs this evening.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:58, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk 
>>>> <mailto:gre...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In case it's useful for tracking, you can get the full list of tags used
>>>> by my comparison tool at the link below. The tool downloads nodes/ways
>>>> with those tags and any nodes/ways with an fhrs:id tag set.
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13
>>>>  
>>>> <https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13>
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Greg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/10/16 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Off the top of my head, I'd have thought it would be good to know
>>>>> about number of instances of fhrs:id=* and addr:postcode=*, and
>>>>> numbers of eating type places (perhaps just one count for all
>>>>> amenity=cafe|restaurant|fast_food|pub|bar). Maybe also the
>>>>> number/proportion of such places that have a name tag. Possibly you
>>>>> could do other measures postcode progress, such as number of unique
>>>>> correctly-formatted postcodes in addr:postcode tags and/or number of
>>>>> postcode sectors ("AB12 X..") with at least one addr:postcode tagged.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

These district statistics CSV files will now be copied each day to 
http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/ 
<http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs-stats/>, so there will be a file per 
day in case anyone would like to track progress.

Thanks,
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> On 9 Oct 2016, at 21:00, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The python-fhrs-osm tool will now create a CSV file containing statistics for 
> each district each day, which should allow detailed tracking. It will be 
> located at http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/stats--mm-dd.csv 
> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/stats--mm-dd.csv> once the tool 
> runs this evening.
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:58, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk 
>> <mailto:gre...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> In case it's useful for tracking, you can get the full list of tags used
>> by my comparison tool at the link below. The tool downloads nodes/ways
>> with those tags and any nodes/ways with an fhrs:id tag set.
>> 
>> https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13
>>  
>> <https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13>
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/10/16 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
>> 
>>> Off the top of my head, I'd have thought it would be good to know
>>> about number of instances of fhrs:id=* and addr:postcode=*, and
>>> numbers of eating type places (perhaps just one count for all
>>> amenity=cafe|restaurant|fast_food|pub|bar). Maybe also the
>>> number/proportion of such places that have a name tag. Possibly you
>>> could do other measures postcode progress, such as number of unique
>>> correctly-formatted postcodes in addr:postcode tags and/or number of
>>> postcode sectors ("AB12 X..") with at least one addr:postcode tagged.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

The python-fhrs-osm tool will now create a CSV file containing statistics for 
each district each day, which should allow detailed tracking. It will be 
located at http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/stats--mm-dd.csv 
<http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/stats--mm-dd.csv> once the tool 
runs this evening.

Thanks,
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> On 4 Oct 2016, at 17:58, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In case it's useful for tracking, you can get the full list of tags used
> by my comparison tool at the link below. The tool downloads nodes/ways
> with those tags and any nodes/ways with an fhrs:id tag set.
> 
> https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
> On 02/10/16 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> 
>> Off the top of my head, I'd have thought it would be good to know
>> about number of instances of fhrs:id=* and addr:postcode=*, and
>> numbers of eating type places (perhaps just one count for all
>> amenity=cafe|restaurant|fast_food|pub|bar). Maybe also the
>> number/proportion of such places that have a name tag. Possibly you
>> could do other measures postcode progress, such as number of unique
>> correctly-formatted postcodes in addr:postcode tags and/or number of
>> postcode sectors ("AB12 X..") with at least one addr:postcode tagged.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Hi Neil,

I've added the feature you requested. It's now possible to download
various GPX files for each district, which should allow easier surveying
on the ground.

From tomorrow, it should also be possible to download a GPX file for OSM
entities with invalid fhrs:ids too (i.e. the ones listed in the table at
the bottom of each district page that don't match with the FHRS database).

Thanks,
Greg.


On 02/10/16 22:19, Neil Matthews wrote:
>> 1.We have a great tool
> <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/>developed some time ago by
> gregrs, whose work we should really recognise by making use of it.
> 
> Tool looks good, but is there any way to get a feature request: to
> identify items in the fhrs data that don't match to OSM in a region (and
> ideally get a GPX file for surveying). Maybe also sort the regions
> alphabetically on the launch page?
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Just to say that I have increased the number of OSM tags used by my
comparison tool (http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/) so you may
see a sudden change in statistics for each district when the update
script is run tonight.

(The tool compares the FHRS data with any nodes/ways with an fhrs:id and
any nodes/ways with one of the tags listed here:
https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

[Greg]

In case it's useful for tracking, you can get the full list of tags used
by my comparison tool at the link below. The tool downloads nodes/ways
with those tags and any nodes/ways with an fhrs:id tag set.

https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13

Thanks,
Greg


On 02/10/16 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

> Off the top of my head, I'd have thought it would be good to know
> about number of instances of fhrs:id=* and addr:postcode=*, and
> numbers of eating type places (perhaps just one count for all
> amenity=cafe|restaurant|fast_food|pub|bar). Maybe also the
> number/proportion of such places that have a name tag. Possibly you
> could do other measures postcode progress, such as number of unique
> correctly-formatted postcodes in addr:postcode tags and/or number of
> postcode sectors ("AB12 X..") with at least one addr:postcode tagged.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

[Greg]

Hi Neil,

I've added a couple of feature requests for you here:
https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues

If anyone else would like to suggest features or report bugs, please do
visit the link above. I don't have time at the moment to improve the
code much, but it would be good to have suggestions in one place in case
I get some time (possible in late October / early November).

Thanks,
Greg


On 02/10/16 22:19, Neil Matthews wrote:

> Tool looks good, but is there any way to get a feature request: to
> identify items in the fhrs data that don't match to OSM in a region (and
> ideally get a GPX file for surveying). Maybe also sort the regions
> alphabetically on the launch page?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Summer quarterly project

[Greg]

Hi Dave,

I'd be happy to add some more stats on
[http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/] but sadly don't have time
just at the moment. I may have some more time in late October/November.

Anyone is welcome to contribute to the code base at
[https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm] though, or to add feature
requests to the issue tracker there, that way I can make the most of any
time I do have to improve the code.

Thanks,
Greg.


On 13/09/16 15:55, Dave F wrote:
> I'd vote for fhrs:id as the next project. I'm about half way through for
> my LA. (I also like Greg's trigpoint database.)
> 
> It's worth noting that Greg's site is primarily to use the fhrs database
> for the addition of postcodes/addresses, not the ID's themselves.
> 
> For instance, it doesn't update the "Total number of FHRS
> establishments" isn't update regularly and there's no 'Relevant OSM
> nodes/ways without fhrs:id'.
> A break down per classification (Pubs, Restaurants, Hospitals etc) would
> be useful as well
> I'm sure this can be created on another site. (Can anyone have a
> development site similar to Greg's)?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

[Greg]

Hi Dave F,

I haven’t thought too much about the process at this stage, but I was imagining 
it would be done mostly programatically as there are 21,000+ (non-destroyed) 
stations.

However, I was anticipating that there would have to be at least some manual 
intervention to decide whether OS trig stations near OSM ‘survey_point’s are 
the same thing and merge the tags. I’m sure some sort of filtering of 
near-certain, possible and unlikely matches between OS trig stations and OSM 
survey_points will help, but I’m not convinced that setting a hard limit (e.g. 
OSM ‘survey_point’s within 5m of an OS trig station must represent that 
station) will work entirely.

If someone created a single CSV of all the triangulation stations *including 
flush bracket numbers*, perhaps using the data from 
[https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/gps/legacy-control-information/triangulation-stations]
 (which I asked OS about 
[http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gregrs/Ordnance_Survey_triangulation_stations/Licence_emails])
 the flush bracket numbers could also be checked against any existing OSM 
‘ref’s.

OS customer services helpfully pointed me in the direction of 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/trigonomy/info as another source of flush 
bracket numbers, but I haven’t asked them about licensing, nor have I contacted 
anyone from the Trigpointing website at this stage.

Thanks,
Greg.


> On 2 Sep 2016, at 00:05, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Could you clarify if by merge/import you mean it to be performed manually or 
> programmatically?
> 
> Personally I think manually is the way to go, possibly as a Quarterly Project 
> asimilar to the schools update. Local knowledge will definitely produce more 
> accurate results.
> I'd use P2's Task to save all that panning around.
> 
> Have you been in contact with anyone from the Trigpointing website?
> 
> Cheers
> Dave F.
> 
> On 01/09/2016 17:16, Greg wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since my last email, I've analysed the relationship between the OS
>> triangulation station data and OSM 'man_made=survey_point's in Great
>> Britain. You can read about this on my wiki page
>> [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gregrs/Ordnance_Survey_triangulation_stations].
>> I believe it may be possible to import/merge this data at some point in
>> the future so I'd be grateful if you could take a look.
>> 
>> I have also converted the data into a GPX file with metadata that can be
>> understood/displayed by JOSM to allow users to more accurately determine
>> the offset of aerial imagery. This can be obtained here:
>> [http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org].
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016, at 08:08 PM, Greg wrote:
>>> I'm pleased to say that I have had confirmation from Ordnance Survey
>>> that their triangulation station data can be used under the Open
>>> Government Licence v3. I have documented this on the wiki:
>>> [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gregrs/Ordnance_Survey_triangulation_stations].
>>> 
>>> I will try to look into making this data more accessible to the
>>> community so that it can be used to more accurately determine the offset
>>> of aerial imagery. I have experimented with this idea around the Rugby
>>> area and it seems to work well.
>>> 
>>> I am also in the process of analysing the relationship between this data
>>> and the large number of 'man_made=survey_point's already in the database
>>> in order to determine whether it might be feasible/useful to
>>> import/merge the data. It looks like similar data has been imported from
>>> IGN in France. Of course I won't do this until it's been properly
>>> discussed.
>>> 
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>>> Greg.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tools for using Food Hygiene data e.g. quickly adding addresses/postcodes

[Greg]

Thanks for your suggestions, Dave F. I’ve created a number of issues in the 
GitHub repository (see links below). I won’t have time to improve the code for 
a while, but at least we will be able to keep track of suggestions. I am of 
course open to pull requests if anyone wants to have a go at improving it.


> The latest total for this district is 1767, so appears a bit more than a week 
> behind.
> Could the update date be added on the page so there's a guide to their 
> accuracy?

There is a date/time at the bottom of each district page, which reflects when 
that HTML page was generated. The update script gets the FHRS data using their 
API and downloads OSM data from GeoFabrik before processing the data and 
creating the HTML pages and JSON files which feed the slippy maps. The whole 
process takes an hour and a half ish.

The GeoFabrik data is probably a bit behind, but this seems the most convenient 
way to obtain large amounts of OSM data without having to filter the entire 
planet file.

https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/4 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/4>


> Could a 'Relevant OSM nodes/ways without fhrs:id' statistic be added?

Probably, although the goal of the tool is really to improve the OSM address 
(and particularly postcode) data, hence the ‘Relevant OSM nodes/ways without 
fhrs:id or postcode’ statistic instead. (There are generally quite a number of 
establishments with a postcode but no fhrs:id, although in Bath and NE Somerset 
I see there are loads of establishments with an fhrs:id but no postcode.)

https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/5 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/5>


> A Download (as Geojson?) of the mismatched/missing lists would be very 
> helpful.

JSON files are already created to feed the slippy maps, so could you try 
[http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/json/overview-270.json 
<http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/json/overview-270.json>] for example? 
What were you hoping to use the downloaded files for? Let me know if the linked 
one already does what you’d like and I can add links to the HTML pages.


> Does it check relations?

No, just nodes and ways at the moment.

https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/6 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/6>


> I'm a bit confused. It says:
> 'Relevant OSM nodes/ways without fhrs:id or postcode' = 173
> but then says:
> 'Percentage of relevant OSM nodes/ways with FHRS match or postcode' = 6.3%
> Am I misunderstanding something?

I’ve been through the code that generates the stats again to check what’s going 
on.

‘Relevant OSM nodes/ways without fhrs:id or postcode’ – seems to be OSM 
nodes/ways which have neither an fhrs:id that matches one in the FHRS database 
nor an addr:postcode.

‘Percentage of relevant OSM nodes/ways with FHRS match or postcode’ – this 
includes OSM nodes/ways which have an fhrs:id and postcode that both match the 
FHRS database, and those with a postcode but no fhrs:id. This doesn’t include 
those with a non-matching fhrs:id, or those for which the postcodes don’t agree 
(including cases where the OSM postcode is not set). This is probably what is 
misleading because the large number of establishments in Bath with a valid 
fhrs:id but no postcode will not be included. It’s meant as a measure of 
‘completeness’ really, with the goal to tag establishments with a postcode and 
possibly an fhrs:id. I think the label probably needs changing though.

https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/5 
<https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/5> again


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tools for using Food Hygiene data e.g. quickly adding addresses/postcodes

[Greg]

I don’t usually bother with fhrs:authority or rating for the reasons Dave F has 
already suggested.

The FHRS data is often a good source for address and postcode data though, 
which was the reason for me writing the tool. It should hopefully provide a 
quicker way of getting this into JOSM.

Thanks,
Greg.

P.S. I’m not on Twitter but I believe someone tweeted @drsiant about my code. 
She probably won’t have seen the latest link for the entire of GB though so 
feel free to share it!


> On 2 Sep 2016, at 12:38, Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> and have you met @drsiant <https://twitter.com/drsiant> ? 
> https://twitter.com/drsiant <https://twitter.com/drsiant>
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 at 12:25 Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Nice job.
> 
> Is the intention to apply fhrs:id only? I see that fhrs:rating and 
> fhrs:authority are offered in the iD editor. Personally, I would put the id 
> only. The authority at a push, and not the rating as it is temporal.
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

[Greg]

Hi all,

Since my last email, I've analysed the relationship between the OS
triangulation station data and OSM 'man_made=survey_point's in Great
Britain. You can read about this on my wiki page
[http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gregrs/Ordnance_Survey_triangulation_stations].
I believe it may be possible to import/merge this data at some point in
the future so I'd be grateful if you could take a look.

I have also converted the data into a GPX file with metadata that can be
understood/displayed by JOSM to allow users to more accurately determine
the offset of aerial imagery. This can be obtained here:
[http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org].

Thanks,
Greg.


On Fri, Aug 19, 2016, at 08:08 PM, Greg wrote:
> I'm pleased to say that I have had confirmation from Ordnance Survey
> that their triangulation station data can be used under the Open
> Government Licence v3. I have documented this on the wiki:
> [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gregrs/Ordnance_Survey_triangulation_stations].
> 
> I will try to look into making this data more accessible to the
> community so that it can be used to more accurately determine the offset
> of aerial imagery. I have experimented with this idea around the Rugby
> area and it seems to work well.
> 
> I am also in the process of analysing the relationship between this data
> and the large number of 'man_made=survey_point's already in the database
> in order to determine whether it might be feasible/useful to
> import/merge the data. It looks like similar data has been imported from
> IGN in France. Of course I won't do this until it's been properly
> discussed.
> 
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> Greg.
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[Talk-GB] Tools for using Food Hygiene data e.g. quickly adding addresses/postcodes

[Greg]

Hi all,

I posted to the West Midlands list in April (and a reply was CC'd here)
regarding some tools I've developed for visualising Food Hygiene Rating
Scheme (FHRS) and OSM data, finding possible matches between it and
importing useful tags into JOSM.

I have now set up these tools on the dev server to provide comparison
maps and statistics for the whole of Great Britain. They should be
updated weekly. Just go to [http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/]
and select a district.

I think the FHRS data is a useful source of postcodes and addresses, and
it can also be a helpful reminder of local establishments to add to the
map. It is my hope that these tools could help us to efficiently add and
verify data in our local areas. Please do have a look at the link above.

If anyone would like to improve or re-use parts of the code, it's
available on GitHub: [https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm]

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Re: [Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

[Greg]

I'm pleased to say that I have had confirmation from Ordnance Survey
that their triangulation station data can be used under the Open
Government Licence v3. I have documented this on the wiki:
[http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gregrs/Ordnance_Survey_triangulation_stations].

I will try to look into making this data more accessible to the
community so that it can be used to more accurately determine the offset
of aerial imagery. I have experimented with this idea around the Rugby
area and it seems to work well.

I am also in the process of analysing the relationship between this data
and the large number of 'man_made=survey_point's already in the database
in order to determine whether it might be feasible/useful to
import/merge the data. It looks like similar data has been imported from
IGN in France. Of course I won't do this until it's been properly
discussed.

Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

[Greg]

Thanks David. I have contacted OS using the contact form on their
website in the hope that they may publish the data under the OGL. I
think it would be helpful in accurately determining imagery offset.

Thanks,
Greg.


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016, at 09:00 PM, David Woolley wrote:
> On 16/08/16 15:22, Greg wrote:
> > There is also a FOI request with a full CSV file here:
> 
> FOI responses don't remove any copyright and I don't think they even 
> given any right to republish the data.
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[Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

[Greg]

Dear all,

Ordnance Survey has a database of triangulation stations and their
precise locations as OSGB36 (National Grid) co-ordinates publicly
available here:
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/gps/legacy-control-information/triangulation-stations.
There is also a FOI request with a full CSV file here:
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/about/governance/foi/questions/2015/0056.html.
I'm not sure under what licence the co-ordinates are published though.

It struck me that accurate co-ordinates for the visible stations such as
church spires, masts and water towers could be helpful in accurately
determining the offset of aerial imagery. It's possible to convert the
CSV to a GPX file with WGS84 lat/lon using QGIS (although I couldn't get
JOSM to display the metadata for each point). The imagery can then be
aligned to these points, bearing in mind of course that the imagery is
often taken from an angle (see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Roof_modelling#Drawing_of_simple_building_outlines).

Best wishes,
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Tools for Food Hygiene Rating Scheme (FHRS) data

[Greg]

Hi Rob,
 
Thanks for the kind words. I'd be happy for you to post it to
Mappa Mercia.
 
Best wishes,
Greg.
 
 
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016, at 12:01 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> cc talk-gb (certainly helpful to post there).
>
> This looks great. One that would benefit the wider UK group. I
> particularly like the suggested matches map which enables me to add
> the correct details to OSM via "Add tags in JOSM" link (note for
> others: the address tags need setting correctly when you use this
> method). I've not seen this approach before so good to have something
> new to reduce manual copy-paste.
> Do you mind if I guest post this to mappa-mercia.org?
>
> Best regards,
> *Rob*
> -- Greg wrote: --
> Hi all,
>
> I've developed some tools for visualising Food Hygiene Rating Scheme
> (FHRS) and OSM data, finding possible matches between it and importing
> useful tags into JOSM.
>
> I think the FHRS data is a useful source of postcodes and addresses,
> and it can also be a helpful reminder of local establishments to add
> to the map. It is my hope that the tools I’ve developed could help us
> to efficiently add and verify data in our local areas (rather than
> importing large amounts of data automatically).
>
> I have created a set of maps (one per OS Boundary Line district) for
> the West Midlands and uploaded them here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42978572/FHRS%20West%20Midlands/index.html
> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42978572/FHRS%20West%20Midlands/index.html>
> . Please do have a look and I hope you find them useful.
>
> I don’t have the time or computing resources to update the data very
> regularly or to widen the geographical area beyond the West
> Midlands, but the code is freely available at
> http://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm
> <http://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm> if anyone would like
> to use it.
>
> I can post this on the wider talk-GB list if this would be helpful…
>
> Thanks,
> Greg.
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Tools for Food Hygiene Rating Scheme (FHRS) data

[Greg]

Hi Brian,
 
Thanks for your comments.
 
I'm not sure what the (B) after certain district names signifies; the
names come from the OS Boundary Line data used to split the data into
manageable chunks. I might try to automatically remove them in later
versions of the code.
 
It's hard to make the stats table labels any easier to understand
without losing their exact meaning, but I'm happy to incorporate any
suggested explanations.
 
I agree about regular updates. Unfortunately it's not something I can
commit to doing manually and I don't have a server on which to run it
automatically at regular intervals. The code and software it uses
(Python and PostGIS) are freely available though and I'm happy to help
someone get it up and running.
 
Thanks,
Greg.
 
 
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Brian Prangle wrote:
> Hi Greg
> Fantastic resource!  Thanks for your effort here. I'll start using the
> toool immediately. A couple of comments:
>
> What does the B signify after a district name
> The logic in your stats table took a bit of working out - perhaps an
> explanantion might be appropriate.
> As I (and I guess others) work through this tool it will need a
> regular update  for matches between OSM and FHRS date otherwise it
> will gradually become less and less useful. Robert Whitacker updates
> his schools and postbox data roughly weekly - perhaps we should aim at
> that. Greg - if this is beyond your resources how do we tackle this
> West Mids mappers?
>
> Regards
> Brian
>
> On 16 April 2016 at 11:32, Greg <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've developed some tools for visualising Food Hygiene Rating Scheme
>> (FHRS) and OSM data, finding possible matches between it and
>> importing useful tags into JOSM.
>>
>> I think the FHRS data is a useful source of postcodes and addresses,
>> and it can also be a helpful reminder of local establishments to add
>> to the map. It is my hope that the tools I’ve developed could help us
>> to efficiently add and verify data in our local areas (rather than
>> importing large amounts of data automatically).
>>
>> I have created a set of maps (one per OS Boundary Line district) for
>> the West Midlands and uploaded them here:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42978572/FHRS%20West%20Midlands/index.html.
>> Please do have a look and I hope you find them useful.
>>
>> I don’t have the time or computing resources to update the data very
>> regularly or to widen the geographical area beyond the West Midlands,
>> but the code is freely available at
>> http://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm if anyone would like to
>> use it.
>>
>> I can post this on the wider talk-GB list if this would be helpful…
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg.
>>
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Rugby tonight

[Greg]

Hi all. I'm local to Rugby and will be coming along to the Bacco Lounge
to meet you later. I presume before this everyone will be doing their
own thing...

I'm moving to Bilton quite soon so I might do some surveying round there
or in New Bilton, where I currently live. In any case I'm sure I'll be
able to survey some more of Bilton in due course.

See you later!

Thanks,
Greg.


On 05/08/15 09:15, Brian Prangle wrote:
 Hi everyone
 
 I'll survey the missing roads showing up just south of Junction One Retail
 Park then do some retail surveying in the centre of town
 
 See you there
 
 Regards
 
 Brian
 
 
 
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[Talk-GB] OSM sighting on ferry

[Greg Auger]

Whilst on the (Southampton - Isle of Wight) Red Funnel car ferry
today, there was a series of slideshow pictures on a TV screen. One of
them included a properly attributed OSM map!

It wasn't a customised rendering - it was certainly familiar to me. I
don't think it was the slippy mapnik map, but I could be wrong.

Greg

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[Talk-GB] Recovering a relation?

[Greg Auger]

Hi all,

A few weeks back there was some discussion of accidental deletion of relations.

There's a large residential multipolygon relation in Southampton that
was accidentally (I assume) deleted. It was quite a few months ago
now, so a lot of the ways associated with the relation are also now
gone.

However I discovered a piece of the relation today:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/99494605

Would it be possible for somebody to restore this relation? (I
understand that given the time that has passed since the deletion, it
may not be feasible.)

Best wishes,
Greg.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Moving Scotland, England, N. Ireland and Wales relations to admin_level 3

[Greg Auger]

I don't object, but when you're done is there any chance you could
update the wiki page's United Kingdom row? I think it is pretty out
of date!
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level

Thanks
Greg.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Worrying Edits in Southampton

[Greg Auger]

I've sent a friendly message to the user, asking if they want any
help, that sort of thing. But regardless of whether these edits were
intentional or accidental, they are destructive, and I agree with Nick
that they should be reverted.

Greg,

On 12 June 2010 07:57, Greg Auger gregory.au...@gmail.com wrote:
 For instance this McDonald's was moved to a completely different
 location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/345112185/history
 Other ways have removed tags:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22800339/history

 It seems to me we should revert all of mem0709's edits (but I don't
 know how to do that)

 Any thoughts?

 Greg Auger

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[Talk-GB] Worrying Edits in Southampton

[Greg Auger]

For instance this McDonald's was moved to a completely different
location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/345112185/history
Other ways have removed tags:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22800339/history

It seems to me we should revert all of mem0709's edits (but I don't
know how to do that)

Any thoughts?

Greg Auger
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Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism in Kent/London area

[Greg Stark]

How do you revert it? I don't see any button for that in the changeset
viewer on Potlatch. And for that matter how do you view changesets
usefully in Potlatch? All it seems to show me is the current view with
no way to view the before and after or other indication of what
the change was.

-- 
greg
http://mit.edu/~gsstark/resume.pdf

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Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism in Kent/London area

[Greg Stark]

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Shaun
McDonaldsh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:
 You can view changesets in the data browser, by clicking more in the
 following list of edits:

That just shows the result though. It doesn't give any indication of
what's different from before or offer any way to revert.

Compare with wikipedia where you can choose two different revisions
and see a side-by-side comparison of the sections which have changed.

It seems like the analog with a map would be two side-by-side maps
with the nodes which are changed highlighted in both maps. New nodes
would be highlighted in the new map in, say, green, deleted nodes
highlighted in the old map in red, and changed nodes highlighted in
both maps in a third colour.

Just showing a single map with a brown rectangle around an entire area
doesn't really give you a clue what in that rectangle has changed or
what will happen if the changeset is reverted.

-- 
greg
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