Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 22 February 2015 at 14:55, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: I see that the old OS OpenData Licence URL now redirects to OGL version 3 ( http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/docs/licences/os-opendata-licence.pdf ) and as such we can safely assume that the OS consider the licence dead. Other UK agencies who have released data under this licence should update their text accordingly, if this doesn't happen then a polite email to alert them of the change would be encouraged. I see no reason to wait for this change to be made prior to using the data in OpenStreetMap. We have a green light lets not convince ourselves it's any other colour :-) In terms of public rights of way released under the OS OpenData licence, this means there is nothing blocking our use of this data. I think that would be jumping the gun slightly. What I understand from OS's answer to me, is that previously released datasets will remain under the OS-ODL, and there is no automatic retrospective change of the licence. OS themselves have now updated their licence pages for their own OS OpenData Products, so the current releases of these can now be used under the OGL. (This doesn't change that much for OSM, since we could already use most of those datasets anyway under a separate agreement. But it does mean we can now use CodePoint Open.) Any new datasets released under PSMA exemptions (e.g. Rights of Way GIS datasets from local councils) will presumably be under the OGL by default too. However, for third-party data that was previously released under the PSMA exemption rules under the OS-ODL, I don't believe that OS could re-licence them even if they wanted to -- there's no up-grade clause in the OS-ODL, and OS doesn't own all the rights in the data to allow them to make that decision. Thus even if OS are happy with a change, it's up to the third-party rights holder whether or not they wish to re-licence each dataset. As far as I understand their reply, OS have said that they will be happy for OS-derived datasets previously released under OS-ODL to be re-licenced under the OGL, and will be amending their guidance accordingly. We can only hope that the OS guidance will also make it clear that third-parties are free to re-licence existing datasets, and ideally encourage them to do so. Unless or until any re-licencing occurs, I'm afraid that the datasets would remain available only under the OS-ODL, and so cannot be used in OSM. So I think we'll just have to be patient and wait a little longer... Once OS release their updated PSMA guidance, we can presumably begin contacting third parties asking asking them to re-licence their existing datasets under the OGL. Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
Robert wrote: I think that would be jumping the gun slightly. What I understand from OS's answer to me, is that previously released datasets will remain under the OS-ODL, and there is no automatic retrospective change of the licence. I think you are overly risk averse in this case and it could limit interesting uses of this data. The risk all along was that the OS could take offence to how we are using the data (the local authorities we forced to use the OS OpenData licence when they just wanted to make the data available as open). Yeah of course the OS cannot retrospectively change the licence of things released in the past but the fact that they have removed the licence text from their website and put a url redirect to the OGL suggests to me that the OS OpenData licence is dead. The risk is gone so lets not pretend otherwise as it will just send a negative message to our community. In time we can and should ask each LA to use the new licence but this shouldn't stop anyone from using the data now. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
That seems inconsistent. If OSM was concerned about the OS OpenData Licence before, with respect to OS data, it should still be concerned with respect to data produced by third parties that continue to use the licence. The OS OpenData Licence is not dead if local authorities and other PSMA members consider that it still applies to their data. While it is likely most, if not all, local authorities will follow OS's transition to OGL, OS cannot speak for them or their IP interests in the meantime. Robert (Whittaker) is correct. Owen On 23 February 2015 at 16:07, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Robert wrote: I think that would be jumping the gun slightly. What I understand from OS's answer to me, is that previously released datasets will remain under the OS-ODL, and there is no automatic retrospective change of the licence. I think you are overly risk averse in this case and it could limit interesting uses of this data. The risk all along was that the OS could take offence to how we are using the data (the local authorities we forced to use the OS OpenData licence when they just wanted to make the data available as open). Yeah of course the OS cannot retrospectively change the licence of things released in the past but the fact that they have removed the licence text from their website and put a url redirect to the OGL suggests to me that the OS OpenData licence is dead. The risk is gone so lets not pretend otherwise as it will just send a negative message to our community. In time we can and should ask each LA to use the new licence but this shouldn't stop anyone from using the data now. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
Robert wrote: I've now had a reply from OS about this. They say: Previous such releases will not necessarily be included - only those that we are informed about in the future. If the dataset had already been notified to us, or we had approved a derived data exemption application on terms equivalent to OS OpenData terms then members are not expected to do anything (i.e. there is no need to take any retrospective action), as they have already been granted a worldwide, royalty free, perpetual, non-exclusive licence to use the Information. All they need to do is to check that that are attaching the correct acknowledgement to the derived data for the licence they are using. Nonetheless, they can move across to the Open Government Licence (v3) terms if they want to, or (for example) they are refreshing the dataset. This information will be added into the public sector licensing guidance soon. Thanks Robert. I see that the old OS OpenData Licence URL now redirects to OGL version 3 ( http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/docs/licences/os-opendata-licence.pdf ) and as such we can safely assume that the OS consider the licence dead. Other UK agencies who have released data under this licence should update their text accordingly, if this doesn't happen then a polite email to alert them of the change would be encouraged. I see no reason to wait for this change to be made prior to using the data in OpenStreetMap. We have a green light lets not convince ourselves it's any other colour :-) In terms of public rights of way released under the OS OpenData licence, this means there is nothing blocking our use of this data. A ground survey is still recommended though. Best, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 18 February 2015 at 13:52, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: The OS OpenData Licence is also used by Local Authorities and other Public Bodies when licensing Geographic Data that's been derived from OS Products under a Public Sector Mapping Agreement exemption. The licence has prevented the use of this data in OSM up to this point. I would imagine that the announcement from OS means that the licence they allow third parties to release OS-derived data under will also change to the OGL. But at the moment, it's not clear if or how this will happen, and whether it will be retrospectively applied to previous releases. I've contacted OS to ask about this (https://twitter.com/rjw62/status/567741494686384128), and hope to receive a reply shortly. I've now had a reply from OS about this. They say: Previous such releases will not necessarily be included - only those that we are informed about in the future. If the dataset had already been notified to us, or we had approved a derived data exemption application on terms equivalent to OS OpenData terms then members are not expected to do anything (i.e. there is no need to take any retrospective action), as they have already been granted a worldwide, royalty free, perpetual, non-exclusive licence to use the Information. All they need to do is to check that that are attaching the correct acknowledgement to the derived data for the licence they are using. Nonetheless, they can move across to the Open Government Licence (v3) terms if they want to, or (for example) they are refreshing the dataset. This information will be added into the public sector licensing guidance soon. I think it means that new PSMA exemptions will use the OGL by default. For existing ones, the public authority isn't under any obligation to change the licence, but will be able to do so if they want to. I've posted further details/background at http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/notes/os-odl-to-ogl.html It might take some individual contacting of councils etc. to persuade them to change their licences, but in general this is good news. Hopefully OS will issue good guidance to make things as simple as possible for public authorities to understand and act on. Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 18/02/15 13:52, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: In the immediate future, it won't have much effect, since we already had separate permission to use all but one of the OS Open Data products. The exception was CodePoint Open. Once OS updates their licence page (http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html still refers to the OS OpenData Licence) then we should be able to make use of CodePoint Open too. Hallelujah! Does that mean that openstreetmap.org would finally be able to find postcodes when I type them in? The lack of reliably good results in this, is the one feature which keeps me using Google Maps much the time. Gerv ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 19/02/15 10:58, Gervase Markham wrote: On 18/02/15 13:52, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: In the immediate future, it won't have much effect, since we already had separate permission to use all but one of the OS Open Data products. The exception was CodePoint Open. Once OS updates their licence page (http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html still refers to the OS OpenData Licence) then we should be able to make use of CodePoint Open too. Hallelujah! Does that mean that openstreetmap.org would finally be able to find postcodes when I type them in? Why would it make any difference? As far as I know Nominatim already uses the Codepoint Open data? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 19/02/15 11:11, Tom Hughes wrote: Why would it make any difference? As far as I know Nominatim already uses the Codepoint Open data? Well, if it did, wouldn't it be able to find every postcode in Britain? The Results from OpenStreetMap Nominatim section of the search results often turns up results for postcodes other than the one requested. Here are some neither FreeThePostcode nor Nominatim can find: * S9 3DJ (should be Fay Crescent, Sheffield) * EN1 2EE (should be Forsyth Place, Enfield) Here are some Nominatim seems unable to find: * EN2 0QG (gives a list of results for EN2 0QP) * YO11 2TT (gives a list of results for YO11 2HD) (Incidentally, when it does find an exact match, why on earth doesn't it, you know, take the map to that location? That doesn't seem an unreasonable expectation.) Gerv ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
This is really good news and thank you Rob for flagging it. Thanks also to the unknown folks at OS who have been working on this ... it follows through on a promise made to me in 2010 that they would look at. As cautioned by Rob, do wait until http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html updates before jumping into CodePoint data with abandon ... it is from a not very open friendly third party and the OGL does allow exemptions for that. I believe also that this will be good news for ?English Heritage, (sorry, I live in Sweden), data users as it removes an ambiguity over which of their data is covered by OGL and which by the now retired OS OpenData license. On the change from OGL 2 to OGL 3, I am a bit less enthusiastic. I sat down with a large cup of coffee, compared them line by line and made the notes below. The thing to highlight is the change to the You definition which does possibly shift some of concern about the OS Opendata license into the OGL itself. The usual caveat: IANAL. Mike The non-trivial changes between OGL 2 and OGL 3 are as follows: Insertion: You must, where you do any of the above: acknowledge the source of the Information by including *or linking to* any attribution statement specified by the Information Provider(s) and, where possible, provide a link to this licence; This is good news. Additional wording: If you are using Information from several Information Providers and listing multiple attributions is not practical in your product or application, you may include a URI or hyperlink to a resource that contains the required attribution statements. This is good news, it follows practise that we have set up in OpenStreetMap. 'You',*'you' and 'your'* means the natural or legal person, or body of persons corporate or incorporate, acquiring rights *in the Information (whether the Information is obtained directly from the Licensor or otherwise)* under this licence. This could potentially imply that users of OpenStreetMap data for the UK, for example to make a map, might have to additionally attribute the OS, (or other bodies). Just being paranoid here but I think it is worth following up. On the other hand in both OGL 2 and OGL 3 is this explicit statement: These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution License The wording of the latter is at http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/1-0/ Since the ODBL and Attribution License share common ancestry on attribution drafting, then quite likely we are compatible too by extension. But it needs some one to sit down and compare both licenses. Apologies but I lack time these days. On 18/02/2015 19:41, Owen Boswarva wrote: (I should clarify that by compatible I meant forward-compatible rather than interoperable. OGL data is suitable as an input to a OdBL dataset, but not vice versa.) -- Owen (@owenboswarva) On 18 February 2015 at 18:04, Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net mailto:metaz...@fastmail.net wrote: I asked @owenboswarva on Twitter who is an active voice whom i trust on open government data issues, and he said this: IMO the only significant difference is v3 explicitly permits re-users to list multiple attributions via a URI or link. ...the differences are mostly just tidier syntax. If you are happy v2 is compatible with OdBL (IMO it is) then v3 is also. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net mailto:metaz...@fastmail.net On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS ODL's clause on sublicensing that caused incompatibility with ODbL, which would make OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have confirmation that this is not the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are compatible? -- Matthijs All the OGL versions are online. A comparison of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me. Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up on all this. Version 3: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Version 2: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ _ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
In my view the additional bit about acquiring rights in the Information (whether the Information is obtained directly from the Licensor or otherwise) is a clarification; not a change to the effect of the licence (when comparing the versions). You applies to persons acquiring rights in the information indirectly under all versions of OGL. The additional wording in Version 3 just makes that explicit. Otherwise Version 3 would not be backward compatible with Version 2. Owen On 19 February 2015 at 11:42, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: This is really good news and thank you Rob for flagging it. Thanks also to the unknown folks at OS who have been working on this ... it follows through on a promise made to me in 2010 that they would look at. As cautioned by Rob, do wait until http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html updates before jumping into CodePoint data with abandon ... it is from a not very open friendly third party and the OGL does allow exemptions for that. I believe also that this will be good news for ?English Heritage, (sorry, I live in Sweden), data users as it removes an ambiguity over which of their data is covered by OGL and which by the now retired OS OpenData license. On the change from OGL 2 to OGL 3, I am a bit less enthusiastic. I sat down with a large cup of coffee, compared them line by line and made the notes below. The thing to highlight is the change to the You definition which does possibly shift some of concern about the OS Opendata license into the OGL itself. The usual caveat: IANAL. Mike The non-trivial changes between OGL 2 and OGL 3 are as follows: Insertion: You must, where you do any of the above: acknowledge the source of the Information by including *or linking to* any attribution statement specified by the Information Provider(s) and, where possible, provide a link to this licence; This is good news. Additional wording: If you are using Information from several Information Providers and listing multiple attributions is not practical in your product or application, you may include a URI or hyperlink to a resource that contains the required attribution statements. This is good news, it follows practise that we have set up in OpenStreetMap. 'You',* 'you' and 'your'* means the natural or legal person, or body of persons corporate or incorporate, acquiring rights *in the Information (whether the Information is obtained directly from the Licensor or otherwise)* under this licence. This could potentially imply that users of OpenStreetMap data for the UK, for example to make a map, might have to additionally attribute the OS, (or other bodies). Just being paranoid here but I think it is worth following up. On the other hand in both OGL 2 and OGL 3 is this explicit statement: These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution License The wording of the latter is at http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/1-0/ Since the ODBL and Attribution License share common ancestry on attribution drafting, then quite likely we are compatible too by extension. But it needs some one to sit down and compare both licenses. Apologies but I lack time these days. On 18/02/2015 19:41, Owen Boswarva wrote: (I should clarify that by compatible I meant forward-compatible rather than interoperable. OGL data is suitable as an input to a OdBL dataset, but not vice versa.) -- Owen (@owenboswarva) On 18 February 2015 at 18:04, Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net wrote: I asked @owenboswarva on Twitter who is an active voice whom i trust on open government data issues, and he said this: IMO the only significant difference is v3 explicitly permits re-users to list multiple attributions via a URI or link. ...the differences are mostly just tidier syntax. If you are happy v2 is compatible with OdBL (IMO it is) then v3 is also. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS ODL's clause on sublicensing that caused incompatibility with ODbL, which would make OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have confirmation that this is not the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are compatible? -- Matthijs All the OGL versions are online. A comparison of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me. Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up on all this. Version 3: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Version 2: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ *___* Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
I asked @owenboswarva on Twitter who is an active voice whom i trust on open government data issues, and he said this: IMO the only significant difference is v3 explicitly permits re-users to list multiple attributions via a URI or link. ...the differences are mostly just tidier syntax. If you are happy v2 is compatible with OdBL (IMO it is) then v3 is also. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS ODL's clause on sublicensing that caused incompatibility with ODbL, which would make OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have confirmation that this is not the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are compatible? -- Matthijs All the OGL versions are online. A comparison of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me. Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up on all this. Version 3: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Version 2: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ _ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
(I should clarify that by compatible I meant forward-compatible rather than interoperable. OGL data is suitable as an input to a OdBL dataset, but not vice versa.) -- Owen (@owenboswarva) On 18 February 2015 at 18:04, Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net wrote: I asked @owenboswarva on Twitter who is an active voice whom i trust on open government data issues, and he said this: IMO the only significant difference is v3 explicitly permits re-users to list multiple attributions via a URI or link. ...the differences are mostly just tidier syntax. If you are happy v2 is compatible with OdBL (IMO it is) then v3 is also. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS ODL's clause on sublicensing that caused incompatibility with ODbL, which would make OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have confirmation that this is not the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are compatible? -- Matthijs All the OGL versions are online. A comparison of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me. Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up on all this. Version 3: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Version 2: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ *___* Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 18 February 2015 at 00:04, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS ODL's clause on sublicensing that caused incompatibility with ODbL, which would make OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have confirmation that this is not the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are compatible? All the OGL versions are online. A comparison of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me. Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up on all this. Version 3: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Version 2: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ I haven't re-read them recently, but as far as I know OGL 3 is fine for use in OSM. In particular, it says: These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution License, both of which license copyright and database rights. This means that when the Information is adapted and licensed under either of those licences, you automatically satisfy the conditions of the OGL when you comply with the other licence. The ODbL is essentially just a stricter version of the Open Data Commons Attribution License (ODB-By), so if it's ok to use OGL stuff under ODC-By, then it's also ok under ODbL. On 18 February 2015 at 12:47, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: What benefits for OSM, especially end users (ie mappers adding nodes ways) will this bring? Will there be extra OS products we can use? or use existing one in new ways? In the immediate future, it won't have much effect, since we already had separate permission to use all but one of the OS Open Data products. The exception was CodePoint Open. Once OS updates their licence page (http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/licensing/using-creating-data-with-os-products/os-opendata.html still refers to the OS OpenData Licence) then we should be able to make use of CodePoint Open too. The OS OpenData Licence is also used by Local Authorities and other Public Bodies when licensing Geographic Data that's been derived from OS Products under a Public Sector Mapping Agreement exemption. The licence has prevented the use of this data in OSM up to this point. I would imagine that the announcement from OS means that the licence they allow third parties to release OS-derived data under will also change to the OGL. But at the moment, it's not clear if or how this will happen, and whether it will be retrospectively applied to previous releases. I've contacted OS to ask about this (https://twitter.com/rjw62/status/567741494686384128), and hope to receive a reply shortly. Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 17/02/2015 22:38, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi All, At long last the open data licence scene in the UK has now become a lot simpler as OS have ditched their OS OpenData Licence and replaced it with the standard OGL: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/02/were-using-the-open-government-licence-to-encourage-greater-use-of-os-opendata-products/ http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Good news for OpenStreetMap :-) Hi Rob What benefits for OSM, especially end users (ie mappers adding nodes ways) will this bring? Will there be extra OS products we can use? or use existing one in new ways? Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL
On 17 February 2015 at 23:57, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I could imagine that OGL-3 has imported OS ODL's clause on sublicensing that caused incompatibility with ODbL, which would make OGL-3 incompatible with ODbL.Do we have confirmation that this is not the case, i.e. that OGL-3 and ODbL are compatible? -- Matthijs All the OGL versions are online. A comparison of v2 and v3 shows nothing to worry me. Hopefully Robert W will chip in as he's clued up on all this. Version 3: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Version 2: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
