Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Patrick Matthews]

As far as I know, wards (within county boroughs) and DEDs (outside county
boroughs)
were both renamed as electoral divisions in 1994.

One problem with the idea of "filling the gaps" in the townland map with
wards is that
wards, even the oldest editions we have, overlap townlands, e.g
Grangegorman East
and Grangegorman West occupy the area between the Phoenix Park and the
Phibsborough Road and the North Circular Road and the boundary of St.
Paul's
Civil Parish, but have always been within some of the Dublin city wards
(Barrack, then
St. Paul's, and now Arran Quay).

See:http://digital.ucd.ie/view/ucdlib:33009

There are simply some areas in the centres of Dublin, Cork (where you
actually have
a number of quasi-townlands called "Suburbs of Cork" which presumably had
been
moved outside the municipal boundary before 1839 but didn't belong to any
other
townland), Waterford and Wexford whiich weren't in the townland system (or
where we
have no definitive records of whatever townland names or boundaries were
there
beforehand).

Regards,

Paddy Matthews.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
wrote:

> When did wards stop? Had a look at index to Dublin City Minutes.
> in 1953 there was "division of added area" into wards perhaps?
>
> in 1954"wards, scheme of"
> and also 1954"Wards, Local Government Order re"
>
> No mention since then except for Valuations in Rathmines wards. So seems
> they stopped in 1954
>
>
> Will look up minutes when next in DCLA Pearse Street, may be two weeks.
>
> Meanwhile perhaps we should enter city wards that most clearly fit the
> white space in the townlands overlay. It seems some from 1838 and some from
> 1849, to avoid overlap where possible and label them
>
> Trinity Ward 1838 etc
>
> These are already all on OSM but we need to do copies that would be tagged
> so the overlay and townlands.ie pick them up effortlessly
>
> Perhaps it is Donal and Rory who should say how they would like them
> tagged?
>
> They can all be viewed athttp://hollinshead.net/maps/dublincitywards/
>
> For Merrion Ward see relation 5595994 for tagging
>
> Hopefully they are all? tagged the same, no guarantee yet I'm afraid.
>
> On 25 February 2017 at 21:26, Dave Foley <davefo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good point, I don't think the wards are used anymore, maybe they could be
> > included on the OSM townland map though?
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > From: Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org>
> > Sent: 25 February 2017 17:07
> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A
> > Suggestion.
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> > > Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie
> > > worries me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the
> > > townlands are so very old whether we should only tag city centre
> > > wards as admin-level=10 if they are the oldest wards we can find?
> >
> > I don't think wards are still in current use, right? Tagging them as
> > admin_level=10 would mean that they were currently being used.
> >
> > Adding them as "historic", like baronies, makes more sense.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Brian Hollinshead]

When did wards stop? Had a look at index to Dublin City Minutes.
in 1953 there was "division of added area" into wards perhaps?

in 1954"wards, scheme of"
and also 1954"Wards, Local Government Order re"

No mention since then except for Valuations in Rathmines wards. So seems
they stopped in 1954


Will look up minutes when next in DCLA Pearse Street, may be two weeks.

Meanwhile perhaps we should enter city wards that most clearly fit the
white space in the townlands overlay. It seems some from 1838 and some from
1849, to avoid overlap where possible and label them

Trinity Ward 1838 etc

These are already all on OSM but we need to do copies that would be tagged
so the overlay and townlands.ie pick them up effortlessly

Perhaps it is Donal and Rory who should say how they would like them tagged?

They can all be viewed athttp://hollinshead.net/maps/dublincitywards/

For Merrion Ward see relation 5595994 for tagging

Hopefully they are all? tagged the same, no guarantee yet I'm afraid.

On 25 February 2017 at 21:26, Dave Foley <davefo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Good point, I don't think the wards are used anymore, maybe they could be
> included on the OSM townland map though?
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> 
> From: Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org>
> Sent: 25 February 2017 17:07
> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A
> Suggestion.
>
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> On 25/02/17 12:10, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> > Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie
> > worries me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the
> > townlands are so very old whether we should only tag city centre
> > wards as admin-level=10 if they are the oldest wards we can find?
>
> I don't think wards are still in current use, right? Tagging them as
> admin_level=10 would mean that they were currently being used.
>
> Adding them as "historic", like baronies, makes more sense.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Dave Foley]

Good point, I don't think the wards are used anymore, maybe they could be 
included on the OSM townland map though?


Dave



From: Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org>
Sent: 25 February 2017 17:07
To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A 
Suggestion.

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On 25/02/17 12:10, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie
> worries me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the
> townlands are so very old whether we should only tag city centre
> wards as admin-level=10 if they are the oldest wards we can find?

I don't think wards are still in current use, right? Tagging them as
admin_level=10 would mean that they were currently being used.

Adding them as "historic", like baronies, makes more sense.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Colm Donoghue]

The islands of Skerries (the skerries and rockabill) are in no electoral
area, I missed the consultation period to mention it to the electoral
commission.
Not sure how to map these, or the rationale for them being missing, much
smaller islands are included off the Atlantic coast

Colm

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017, 17:08 Rory McCann,  wrote:

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> On 25/02/17 12:10, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> > Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie
> > worries me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the
> > townlands are so very old whether we should only tag city centre
> > wards as admin-level=10 if they are the oldest wards we can find?
>
> I don't think wards are still in current use, right? Tagging them as
> admin_level=10 would mean that they were currently being used.
>
> Adding them as "historic", like baronies, makes more sense.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

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On 25/02/17 12:10, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie
> worries me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the
> townlands are so very old whether we should only tag city centre
> wards as admin-level=10 if they are the oldest wards we can find?

I don't think wards are still in current use, right? Tagging them as
admin_level=10 would mean that they were currently being used.

Adding them as "historic", like baronies, makes more sense.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Dave Foley]

I'm using 
http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/os_opendata.html?zoom=14=53.26797=-6.38816=B0FTTFF
 to compare the townlands, unfortunately it seems to end short of Dublin city 
centre. Can't remember who posted the link originally.


I see what you mean about the overlap around the South Circular Road, but I'm 
not certain the Dolphinsbarn townland is correctly mapped though 
http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?zoom=16=53.33313=-6.29108=BTF
 . I assume at some point the townlands and city wards matched up.


Dave



From: Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
Sent: 25 February 2017 11:10
To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A 
Suggestion.

Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie worries
me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the townlands are
so very old whether we should only tag city centre wards as admin-level=10
if they are the oldest wards we can find?

Dolphins Barn and Goldenbridge did extend in to South Circular Rd before
the city expanded to the Canal and Grangegorman East and West used exist, I
have seen them on 1837 OSI 6 inch in TCD.

Have been trying to find others and recently discovered that at least one
of the 9 Liberties had wards, (St Sephulchre's in particular,) have seen
names but not boundary detail yet.

More reading required.

Please Dave, which OSI data are you using, i would be interest to view Old
Dublin City.

Thanks


On 24 February 2017 at 20:56, Dave Foley <davefo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Very nice page Brian. Just wondering since there were no townlands in
> Dublin city centre would it make sense to tag them as admin_level=10? I
> also noticed the OSI has townlands marked in Limerick where there are none
> on OSM. I assume Cork city also had wards?
>
>
> The OSI data is very useful for finding errors in the townland boundaries,
> I even found a missing townland in Dublin (Taylorsgrange).
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> 
> From: Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
> Sent: 23 February 2017 05:07
> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A
> Suggestion.
>
> Hi
>
> re Admin and historic boundary tagging
>
> I have added four sets of Dublin City wards, as at c.1780, 1838, 1849 and
> 1946
> I tagged them as
>
> boundary=administrative
>
> date=1849
>
> historic=yes
>
> name=Trinity Ward (1849)
>
> political_division=city_ward
>
> type=boundary
>
> I accept I have mixed my admin with political but was quite unsure. I still
> need to re-visit the tagging to check all are the same.
>
> They can be viewed at http://hollinshead.net/maps/dublincitywards/   I
> know
> sources list is incomplete.
>
> My intention was to move them to histosm.org now recently restored.
>
> I tagged historic Dublin City as
>
> boundary=historic
>
> historic=yes
>
> name=
>
> type=boundary
>
> your suggestions most welcome.
>
>
>
> I will start a separate thread because I also have added
>
> Government and Dail constituencies 1798, 1947 etc (6544843)
> Police Districts (6650495)
> Townships, Rathmines etc (6144162)
> DLR and Township wards (6640701 and 6575092)
> City extensions (6144262)
>
> and need shared opinions re tagging and whether they should be on OSM or
> histosm or both and how to migrate them to histosm?.
>
>
>
> News of OSM feature, new to me recently, I think it is brilliant:
>
> open OSM, zoom well in on National Library, Kildare St Dublin
>
> select ? icon on the right, it will go green
>
> click anywhere in the vicinity of the library
>
> view the scope of detail now brought together in left margin.
>
> ( any other folk interested in Dublin City boundary detail please email me
> directly)
>
>
> On 22 February 2017 at 22:48, Cormac O Murchú <c...@iol.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > First of all Northern Irish EDs cannot be tagged like Southern ones. This
> > is
> > because they are no longer Administrative Units as they were abolished in
> > the early 920s and replaced by Wards.
> >
> >
> >
> > From what I can see no wards in NI (these are still Admin Boundaries )
> are
> > tagged at present. This is a separate issue but there is no point tagging
> > EDs without tagging wards as well. Wards will have to be injected into
> OSM
> > with admin_level=9 given their legal status.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the strict sense they were never known as Electoral Divisions as that
> > nomenclature dates from the 1990s in

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Brian Hollinshead]

Yes the white space for old Dublin City, on maps.openstreetmap.ie worries
me gently from time to time. I wonder though whether if the townlands are
so very old whether we should only tag city centre wards as admin-level=10
if they are the oldest wards we can find?

Dolphins Barn and Goldenbridge did extend in to South Circular Rd before
the city expanded to the Canal and Grangegorman East and West used exist, I
have seen them on 1837 OSI 6 inch in TCD.

Have been trying to find others and recently discovered that at least one
of the 9 Liberties had wards, (St Sephulchre's in particular,) have seen
names but not boundary detail yet.

More reading required.

Please Dave, which OSI data are you using, i would be interest to view Old
Dublin City.

Thanks


On 24 February 2017 at 20:56, Dave Foley <davefo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Very nice page Brian. Just wondering since there were no townlands in
> Dublin city centre would it make sense to tag them as admin_level=10? I
> also noticed the OSI has townlands marked in Limerick where there are none
> on OSM. I assume Cork city also had wards?
>
>
> The OSI data is very useful for finding errors in the townland boundaries,
> I even found a missing townland in Dublin (Taylorsgrange).
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> 
> From: Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
> Sent: 23 February 2017 05:07
> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A
> Suggestion.
>
> Hi
>
> re Admin and historic boundary tagging
>
> I have added four sets of Dublin City wards, as at c.1780, 1838, 1849 and
> 1946
> I tagged them as
>
> boundary=administrative
>
> date=1849
>
> historic=yes
>
> name=Trinity Ward (1849)
>
> political_division=city_ward
>
> type=boundary
>
> I accept I have mixed my admin with political but was quite unsure. I still
> need to re-visit the tagging to check all are the same.
>
> They can be viewed at http://hollinshead.net/maps/dublincitywards/   I
> know
> sources list is incomplete.
>
> My intention was to move them to histosm.org now recently restored.
>
> I tagged historic Dublin City as
>
> boundary=historic
>
> historic=yes
>
> name=
>
> type=boundary
>
> your suggestions most welcome.
>
>
>
> I will start a separate thread because I also have added
>
> Government and Dail constituencies 1798, 1947 etc (6544843)
> Police Districts (6650495)
> Townships, Rathmines etc (6144162)
> DLR and Township wards (6640701 and 6575092)
> City extensions (6144262)
>
> and need shared opinions re tagging and whether they should be on OSM or
> histosm or both and how to migrate them to histosm?.
>
>
>
> News of OSM feature, new to me recently, I think it is brilliant:
>
> open OSM, zoom well in on National Library, Kildare St Dublin
>
> select ? icon on the right, it will go green
>
> click anywhere in the vicinity of the library
>
> view the scope of detail now brought together in left margin.
>
> ( any other folk interested in Dublin City boundary detail please email me
> directly)
>
>
> On 22 February 2017 at 22:48, Cormac O Murchú <c...@iol.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > First of all Northern Irish EDs cannot be tagged like Southern ones. This
> > is
> > because they are no longer Administrative Units as they were abolished in
> > the early 920s and replaced by Wards.
> >
> >
> >
> > From what I can see no wards in NI (these are still Admin Boundaries )
> are
> > tagged at present. This is a separate issue but there is no point tagging
> > EDs without tagging wards as well. Wards will have to be injected into
> OSM
> > with admin_level=9 given their legal status.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the strict sense they were never known as Electoral Divisions as that
> > nomenclature dates from the 1990s in the RoI only. They were DED’s at
> > abolition time.  There are no name:ga names either, all the names must be
> > English only.  Furthermore EDs were known as Poor Law Electoral
> Divisions (
> > 1850 – 1898) for longer than they were known as District Electoral
> > Divisions
> > ( 1899-c. 1923) although census data was produced on an ED as well as on
> a
> > Ward basis in NI until the 1950s.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nevertheless they are of considerable historical interest and I think I
> > know
> > how to tag them.. Here is the suggested scheme so that Nominatim
> disgorges
> > all the variants.
> >
> >
> >
> > boundary=electoral_division
> >
> > alt_na

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Dave Foley]

Very nice page Brian. Just wondering since there were no townlands in Dublin 
city centre would it make sense to tag them as admin_level=10? I also noticed 
the OSI has townlands marked in Limerick where there are none on OSM. I assume 
Cork city also had wards?


The OSI data is very useful for finding errors in the townland boundaries, I 
even found a missing townland in Dublin (Taylorsgrange).


Dave



From: Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
Sent: 23 February 2017 05:07
To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A 
Suggestion.

Hi

re Admin and historic boundary tagging

I have added four sets of Dublin City wards, as at c.1780, 1838, 1849 and
1946
I tagged them as

boundary=administrative

date=1849

historic=yes

name=Trinity Ward (1849)

political_division=city_ward

type=boundary

I accept I have mixed my admin with political but was quite unsure. I still
need to re-visit the tagging to check all are the same.

They can be viewed at http://hollinshead.net/maps/dublincitywards/   I know
sources list is incomplete.

My intention was to move them to histosm.org now recently restored.

I tagged historic Dublin City as

boundary=historic

historic=yes

name=

type=boundary

your suggestions most welcome.



I will start a separate thread because I also have added

Government and Dail constituencies 1798, 1947 etc (6544843)
Police Districts (6650495)
Townships, Rathmines etc (6144162)
DLR and Township wards (6640701 and 6575092)
City extensions (6144262)

and need shared opinions re tagging and whether they should be on OSM or
histosm or both and how to migrate them to histosm?.



News of OSM feature, new to me recently, I think it is brilliant:

open OSM, zoom well in on National Library, Kildare St Dublin

select ? icon on the right, it will go green

click anywhere in the vicinity of the library

view the scope of detail now brought together in left margin.

( any other folk interested in Dublin City boundary detail please email me
directly)


On 22 February 2017 at 22:48, Cormac O Murchú <c...@iol.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> First of all Northern Irish EDs cannot be tagged like Southern ones. This
> is
> because they are no longer Administrative Units as they were abolished in
> the early 920s and replaced by Wards.
>
>
>
> From what I can see no wards in NI (these are still Admin Boundaries ) are
> tagged at present. This is a separate issue but there is no point tagging
> EDs without tagging wards as well. Wards will have to be injected into OSM
> with admin_level=9 given their legal status.
>
>
>
> In the strict sense they were never known as Electoral Divisions as that
> nomenclature dates from the 1990s in the RoI only. They were DED’s at
> abolition time.  There are no name:ga names either, all the names must be
> English only.  Furthermore EDs were known as Poor Law Electoral Divisions (
> 1850 – 1898) for longer than they were known as District Electoral
> Divisions
> ( 1899-c. 1923) although census data was produced on an ED as well as on a
> Ward basis in NI until the 1950s.
>
>
>
> Nevertheless they are of considerable historical interest and I think I
> know
> how to tag them.. Here is the suggested scheme so that Nominatim disgorges
> all the variants.
>
>
>
> boundary=electoral_division
>
> alt_name=Drumsnot DED
>
> alt_name_1=Drumsnot PLED
>
> name=Drumsnot
>
> name:en=Drumsnot District Electoral Division
>
> place=locality
>
> type=boundary
>
>
>
> Input most welcome from all.
>
>
>
> Rgds
>
>
>
> C
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[OSM-talk-ie] NI Electoral Divisions and tagging schemes. A Suggestion.

[Cormac O Murchú]

Hi,

 

First of all Northern Irish EDs cannot be tagged like Southern ones. This is
because they are no longer Administrative Units as they were abolished in
the early 920s and replaced by Wards. 

 

From what I can see no wards in NI (these are still Admin Boundaries ) are
tagged at present. This is a separate issue but there is no point tagging
EDs without tagging wards as well. Wards will have to be injected into OSM
with admin_level=9 given their legal status. 

 

In the strict sense they were never known as Electoral Divisions as that
nomenclature dates from the 1990s in the RoI only. They were DED’s at
abolition time.  There are no name:ga names either, all the names must be
English only.  Furthermore EDs were known as Poor Law Electoral Divisions (
1850 – 1898) for longer than they were known as District Electoral Divisions
( 1899-c. 1923) although census data was produced on an ED as well as on a
Ward basis in NI until the 1950s. 

 

Nevertheless they are of considerable historical interest and I think I know
how to tag them.. Here is the suggested scheme so that Nominatim disgorges
all the variants. 

 

boundary=electoral_division

alt_name=Drumsnot DED

alt_name_1=Drumsnot PLED

name=Drumsnot

name:en=Drumsnot District Electoral Division

place=locality

type=boundary

 

Input most welcome from all. 

 

Rgds

 

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