Re: [Talk-hr] Administrativne granice u Hrvatskoj
On Mon, 23 May 2011 21:33:47 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Poslao sam im upit, APP :D Nije da se jako nadam odgovoru, ali kaj se može. Ako to ne uspije, jel možemo na neke druge načine ucrtati granice? Recimo, jel ima negdje popis ulica koje su u Zagrebu? I onda potegnemo liniju otprilike.. Možda ima bolji način? Poštanski brojevi? Njih su nam prepustili, jel možemo njih iskoristiti? Evo i teksta koji sam poslao ako nekog zanima: Jesi dobi kakav odgovor? -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Imena ulica
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:12:47 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Možda, ali za to postoji tag loc_namehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name. Hmm, ja sam korisio često alt_name prema uputama s engleske osm liste kada sam uputio pitanje kako oznaciti ime ulice koje ima sluzbeno i kolokvijalno ime koje se cesce koristi. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Imena ulica
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:12:44 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Vjerujem da je to službeni naziv. Danas sam vidio i da na jednoj tabli piše Cankarova ulica iako znam da je službeni naziv Ulica Ivana Cankara. Na kućnim brojevima piše skraćeno, jednostavno zato što nema mjesta, dakle Teslina. E sad, što bi bio naziv Nikole Tesle? Jel' to skraćeno, ili samo prezime? Tko zna. Po meni bi trebalo jednostavno upisivati najduži naziv koji se nađe. To bi onda bila najpunija informacija iz koje bi se moglo pametnim algoritmima automatski dobiti skraćeni nazivi. Ako je skraćeno ime nešto što je službeno, onda možemo koristiti i tag * alt_name*. Loc_name je više neki naziv koji koristi samo lokalno življe, nešto kao Đamija za Dom hrvatskih likovnih umjetnika. Teslina i Cankareva u ovim slucajevima IMHO. I slazem se za koristenje alt_name taga. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Imena ulica
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:25:56 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Skraceni se koristi ne samo za karte vec i za navigaciju. Kao prvo brze je ukucati (pogotovo na mali touch uređajima) kraći naziv, a često za dosta ulica ljudi niti ne znaju puno ime ulice. Često sam testirao maps.mireo.hr navigaciju i oni imaju odlično to uvedeno, njihov router pravilno pronalazi i skraćene i pune nazive ulica. Zbog toga sam za to da obavezno unosimo puno + skraceno ime ulice u osm bazu. Evo primjera za ulicu Ivana Gundulića u Osijeku i Matije Antuna Reljkovića: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/73890445 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/73890445 Moram priznati da nisam primjetio (a niti gledao) da stranicu imaju Street ili Rue u nazivima. Koliko sam primjetio dosta rijetko na pločama po Osijeku piše u nazivu ulice i Ulica ... Moj zaključak, ne treba tagirati za renderer ali svakako treba tagirati s alt_name za routere. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Sobe
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:56:06 +0200, Tomislav Parčina wrote: tagirao kao tourism=guest_house. I mi tako po Osijeku tagiramo sve sto nije hotel ili hostel - sobe, apartmane i ostalo ;) -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] OSM predavanje za DORS/CLUC-u ?
Ekipa da li netko sprema predavanje o OSM-u na DORS/CLUC konferenciji? http://dorscluc.org/ Predlažem da ako pripremate neko predavanje vam ja pomognem oko uvodnog dijela i odradim uvod tipa OSM for Dummies te onda prepustim ostatak predavanja vama GIS gekovima ;) Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] osm karta s routingom
Koliko vidim oba linka koriste Google maps, znas li neku kartu koja koristi OSM kartu. Dakle u biti trazim direktnu kopiju funkcije google mape s www.portanova.hr weba ali sa OSM kartom u pozadini umjesto Google maps-a. Oni imaju postavljenu jednu fiksnu točnu za navigaciju, a to je krajnja odredišna točka - njihov shopping centar. Korisnik klikne gdje se nalazi i to postane početna točka za navigaciji te nakon toga dobije rutu kojoj treba putovati. Dakle ima li koji online servis koji to omogucava ali s OSM kartom u pozadini? On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:38:59 +0100, SilverSpace wrote: To na google davno imaš tj. to je i prenešeno sa google di rutu možeš i editirati Ne zna jel znaš za ove linkove. http://www.runmap.net/ http://www.runmap.net/ http://www.bikemap.net/ 2011/3/23 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com Gledam na stranicama Portanova kako imaju google maps s dodatnom navigacijom: http://www.portanova.hr/lokacija/ Ako se klikne na Directions unutar balona onda se može ukucati početna destinacija, dok je krajnja već unešena. Postoji li kakav sličan servis koji bi koristio OSM kartu a da je jednako user friendly? Ako nema koliko bi komplicirano bilo za implementirati nešto slično? Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Akcije crtanja gradova
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:19:20 +0100, hbogner wrote: PS. Ajmo prvo Sisak pa ćemo se drugi vikend dogovoriti za sljedeći grad. PPS. Da i ja dam svoj prijedlog, nisu Lipovljani, ali blizu Lipovljana, Novska. Ima bing a jedva je nešto nacrtano. Moze Sisak, slazem se. Trebamo sada vidjeti prvo koliko nas ima. Ako smo samo nas dvojica onda se lagano dogovorimo sto cemo, ako se javi 10 ljudi onda treba podjeliti taskove nekako da ne radimo iste stvari. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Par pitanja
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:32:43 +0100, tommy5 wrote: - vidim da se smije precrtavati sa Binga, što je kul ali ipak želim prvo malo prošvrljati da imam referencu e sad me zanima preciznost, da li je 2m jel to dovoljno točno?, tj. vidim da ima svakakvih logova tako da moja trasa značajno odudara od ponekih extremnih (predpostavljam da je neko koristio puno manju preciznost/uređaj True/False?) Kao prvo dobrodošao u OSM zajednicu! Što se tiće preciznosti to svaki softver drugačije izračunava, iskreno sumnjam da se može dobiti preciznost od 2m sa android ili iphone gps- ovima, već samo softver koji koristiš tako prikaže preciznost prema nekom algoritmu. Meni je bolja informacija koliko satelita vidiš (sve preko 5 satelita je ok, 7-8 je već super preciznost), to sam vidio jedino da prokazuje MobileTrailExplorer app za symbian (nokia) telefone. Najbolji savjet za preciznost: idi kada je vedro i sunčano, dakle bez oblaka. Prvo ostavi GPS 5-10 minuta na fiksnoj točki pa tek onda krenu u snimanje logova. Također je najbolje napraviti prolaz istim putem ali s druge strane ceste, dakle ili više puta proći istim putem kako bi se uklonila greška i dobila bolja preciznost. Dobro je imati tuđe logove i znaju dosta pomoći, ali ako odstupaju od tvog loga onda se pouzaj u se i u svoje kljuse ;) Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Par pitanja
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 10:28:07 +, Ivan Biuklija wrote: Mislim da bi bilo prevelika gnjavaža na svaku pojedinačnu točku stavljati taj tag, a ja za sada nisam uspio naći način da automatski dodijelim svakoj točki određeni tag u JOSM-u. Ako netko ima rješenje, slušam Nikada ne stavljaš tagove na točke, osim ako su to objekti koji su točkasti, za linije stavljaš tag na cijelu liniju (cestu ili što već), a nikako na pojedine točke. Uvijek je dobro staviti što više informacija da se zna izvor, tako da je to svakako dobro staviti. Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:19:38 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Stavio sam jedan restriction otprilike u vrijeme ove rasprave, i do danas mi nikako ne može proraditi. Evo linka na mjesto: *http://tinyurl.com/3x3pyod*http://tinyurl.com/3x3pyod Stavio sam par no_u_turn zabrana u to isto križanje, i nikako da prorade. Stavio sam još jednu takvu zabranu malo zapadnije, ovdje: *http://tinyurl.com/364ln66* http://tinyurl.com/364ln66 i tu radi. Nerazumijem u čemu je problem. Jesi rjesio problem? Meni su pomogli stranci na osm listi jer tamo ima iskusnijih ljudi koji znaju sve zackoljice oko routinga i odmah uopce greske na karti koje mi ne vidimo. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] st(r)anje oko promjene licence
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:58:58 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL Također mislim da treba dodati još dva stupca u tablicu: | Username | Contacted | Replied | Accepts ODbL | Perica yesNo Marica yesYes Yes Đuro yesYes No Ovako nešto. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pitanja u vezi klasifikacije cesta
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:54:49 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Problem je što su tagovi highway=primary,secondary,tertiary dvosmisleni. U jednu ruku su politički, a u drugu ruku su fizički. Ja sam bio (glasna) manjina u više rasprava da se ceste označavaju prema fizičkim karakteristikama, no politika je prevladala ;) -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Karlovac 04.12.2010 - Radionica Slobodnog mapiranja
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:15:27 +0100, hbogner wrote: 04.12.2010. 15:00 Centar za mlade Na Gazi Karlovac http://osm.org/go/0IpFu@3Nm--?way=51921655 Debelo sam ti zakasnio poslati sliku stanja u Karlovcu jer u to vrijeme sam bio off the grid što se tiće OSM-a. Sada sam back in action ;) Evo slike Karlovca: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/184632/Karlovac%20-%20itoworld%20-%20users.png Najbolje je da si otvorite svi free account na www.itoworld.com i onda možete i sami si vaditi statistike za područja koja vas zanimaju. Cya, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pitanja u vezi klasifikacije cesta
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:23:17 +0100, Goran wrote: Označiti ju kao highway=secondary; surface=unpaved je najlogičnije rješenje. A staviti trackgrade i maxspeed još? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] (ne)namjerni vandalizam u Osijeku
Našao sam ova dva edita: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6411259 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6411346 Za sada mi izgleda kao da nije maliciozni vandal u pitanju već samo da su su krivi editi nastali iz neznanja. Da li vi po ostatku .hr pratite i kako potencijalne maliciozne promjene? Ovu sam poruku poslao korisniku koji je napravio te edite: Pozdrav i dobrodosao u OpenStreetMap projekt. Vidim da si radio neke probe: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6411259 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6411346 No molim te da proucis vodic za pocetnike a da ne unosiš stvari koje ne postoje zapravo. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HR:Beginners_Guide Ako imaš nekih pitanja javi se na domaću mailing listu, detalje za kontakt ćeš naći ovdje: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Croatia#Komunikacija_s_.C4.8Dlanovima Pozdrav, Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] st(r)anje oko promjene licence
Eto, Janjko Svaka cast na trudu. Valent -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] st(r)anje oko promjene licence
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:48:17 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Jel netko već kontaktirao ljude? Goran mi kaže da misli da je Matija poslao mail svima sa liste koji nisu prešli. Ja sam poslao jedno 20-ak poruka ljudima po onome popisu (od najaktivnijih prema dolje). Dobio sam par dogovora pa ako postoji wiki stranica molim da mi date link kako bih napisao kome sam slao, kome ne, od koga sam dobio odgovor a od koga ne. Slijedeći koji ima najviše točaka a nije prešao je dimhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dim(Marko Dimjašević) koji je napravio puno posla oko Križevaca. Ako vam se nije javio, našao sam njegovu mail adresu pa budem ja. Ali neću ga daviti ako ste mu vi već slali mailove. Pozdrav, Janko. dim mi se javio i za sada, prema odgovoru koji je poslao, ne planira prihvatiti ODBL licencu. Kako ima dosta stranaca koji su editirali na .hr području može li netko napraviti .hr i englesku verziju poruke koja bi se slala kao podsjetnik da se odluče o prihvačanju ODBL licence ili ne. Hvala, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] st(r)anje oko promjene licence
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:39:13 +0100, Matija Nalis wrote: Najtuznije od svega je sto bi upgrade na CC-BY-SA 3.0, kao i ported varijante te licence (po odabiru usera) rjesio vecinu (iako ne sve) probleme radi kojih se gura ODbL i novi CT, i to bez *ikakvog* gubitka podataka. Koji je razlozi protiv CC-BY-SA 3.0 licence, tj koje su negativne strane? (4) Ljudi kojima se ne svidja ideja o tolikom prihvatljivom gubitku podataka su odlucili sloziti servere koji nece izgubiti nista podataka. (dakle koji ce ostati na CC-BY-SA licenci) Rasprave se odvijaju na: https://groups.google.com/group/osm-fork Cini mi se je fork osudjen na propast, ili ako nije, onda mu prestoji jako težak put. OSM ima hrpe infrastrukture koja se neće forkati, hrpe admina, servera, itd. Da bi bilo kakav fork došao do statusa blizu onoga kojeg OSM ima treba imati hrpe resursa, dakle kupiti hardver te imati hrpe tehnički potkovanih volontera (admina). Čak ako to sve budu imali trebat će im cca godinu dana da postave veći dio na noge i da bude platforma postane dovoljno stabilna za mapere volontere. Jako će teško, gotovo nemoguće forkati OSM ako neka velika firma (ili više njih) ne stane iza tog forka i ne kešira hrpe para. Osobno sam uvjeren da je to sve jedna velika njemačka zavjera. Njima je postalo dosadno jer su izmapirali sve što se da izmapirati, valjda i onaj najmanji grm koji psi zapišavaju pa sada da bi mogli ponovo mapirati trebaju malo pobrisati podataka kako im ne bi bilo dosadno ;) Ako ih to veseli neka im. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] st(r)anje oko promjene licence
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:39:13 +0100, Matija Nalis wrote: (2a) Trenutno stanje po kontinentima/drzavama izgleda ovako: http://repo.grimp.eu/osm/ http://repo.grimp.eu/osm/europe/croatia_not_accepted Hvala na linku, dakle trebamo pitati najaktivnije korisnike hoce li prijeci i tako smanjiti gubitak podataka, a to su sa popisa prvih 20: 116461 Darko Boto 13931 86990 breakpoint 94569 75581 mvrban 148025 65167 commsrvr 79359 54701 Ewi 27109 43148 Dalmos 93461 34066 GreenYeti 68089 29687 dim 107319 18903 delorayn1 67437 18672 iva 86433 15446 Vedran V 158601 14231 Matija Nalis 52552 13805 Stead 35743 13591 shr3k 72932 13539 goranT 217969 10982 Alessandro Sgambati 38061 10177 Point 223051 10150 DarkoS 143719 8270 Marko Marulic 20674 8147 meof 114608 Znate li nekoga s popisa? Moguce da jednostavno nisu vidjeli da se trebaju izjasniti o prihvacanju licence, ili su to ljudi koji si izricito odbili prihvatiti novu licencu? Ima li koga od ljudi s popisa na mailing listi da odgovore? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] st(r)anje oko promjene licence
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:47:17 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: 75581 mvrban 148025 Evo pitao sam mvrban i on je prihvatio ODBL, one down many to go... treba kontaktirati sve te ljude i pitati ih jesu li vidjeli uopce da se prelazi na novu licencu te ih zamoliti da prihvate ODBL. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Statistike - novi linkovi update
čestitke, svima i hvala za statistike. Jesi li ih možda stavio na wiki negdje? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pitanja u vezi klasifikacije cesta
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:06:21 +0100, Tihomir Heidelberg - 9a4gl wrote: 1. Zašto su neke državne ceste označene kao highway=trunk ? Da li je pravilo da su državne ceste primary ili ne ? Jel to neko nepisano pravilo da ako je državna cesta sa odvojenim trakama kod nas zapravno trunk ? Naime, ima li u Hrvatskoj uopće cesta koje se mogu klasificirati kao trunk ? Istarski ispislon je danas klasificiran kao autocesta, iako neke državne ceste (npr kalmetina) je modernija i propusnija. Ako ćemo strogo gledati, trunka u Hrvatskoj nema. Da li ćemo ga koristiti i kada ? najbolje daj konkretne primjere. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Openstreetmap forum
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:22:29 +0100, hbogner wrote: Zaboravio sam na link :D http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=51 He he, sada imam još jedno mjesto gdje vas mogu spamati linkovima koje nalazim. Pogrešan potez :) -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] POI iz Zagrebacke zupanije
http://www.zagrebacka-zupanija.hr/zupanijski_navigator?t=3s=3127 Zagrebacka zupanija ima kvalitetan popis POI-a za koje bi trebalo vidjeti jesu li vec prisutni u OSM-u, no sumnjam da su svi, te tražiti dozvolu za prijenos podataka u OSM. Ima li tko kontakte u Zagrebačkoj županiji? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] jednom je slucajnost, dvaput je podudarnost, a triput je vec zavjera
A kaj se tiece SteveC smjera, evo: http://blog.transiki.org/ Opet ima dobru ideju i posvečuje se tome 100%, skidam mu kapu. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:08:02 +0200, Tihomir Heidelberg wrote: Naime, Google Maps ima krivo ucrtanu D26 od Dežanovca do Daruvara. Kao što piše u NN cesta ide do Daruvara (D5) a ne kako su oni ucrtali do Badljevine (D5) koja pak ide do Daruavar ! Cesta Dežanovac-Badljevina (Google označio kao D26) je jako loša, dok prava D26 cesta Dežanovac-Ivanovo Polje-Gornji Daruvar-Daruvar je jedna od boljih državnih cesata. A cesta Dežanovac(D26)-Trojeglava-Badljevina(D5) je zapravo ŽC3169 ! Super, eto dobar primjer gdje OSM prednjači Google Maps a vjerovatno i drugim kartama jer Google samo uzima podatke od drugih a ti drugi prodaju podatke i ostalima s istom greškom. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] pušačka karta
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:07:58 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Meni http://toolserver.org/~stephankn/smoking/? zoom=14lat=45.55858lon=18.69634layers=BT izgleda sasvim ok (osim sto su [trivijalni] descriptioni na njemackom) Na karti Osijeka sada imamo podatke skoro za sve ugostiteljske objekte, pozivam i ostale da se ukljuće te za svoje mjesto saznaju da li ugostiteljski objekti su za pušače ili ne te da ih tako oznaće. Znate li za koji ne pušački objekt u Zagrebu, Rijeci ili Spliti? Javite mi molim pa ću ga sam označiti na karti kako takav ako nećete sami. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] pušačka karta
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:57:45 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Znate li za koji ne pušački objekt u Zagrebu, Rijeci ili Spliti? Javite mi molim pa ću ga sam označiti na karti kako takav ako nećete sami. Evo pregled hrvatske: http://toolserver.org/~stephankn/smoking/?zoom=8lat=45.12852lon=16.54665layers=BT -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] pomoc oko prijevoda s njemackog
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:42:35 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Ne vidi se tko je, ali puno hvala na pomoći. Samo da ne bude zabune, nije još sve prevedeno pa i dalje treba pomoći. Slobodno se uključite. Prevedeno je na hrvatski sada samo fali još engleski na pola izraza. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:08:03 +0200, Tihomir Heidelberg wrote: No našao sam nešto drugo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_roads_in_Croatia#State_roads Ovo je neslužbeno, no svaka cesta je opisana vrlo precizno, svako križanje je opisano sa kojim cestama se sijeće. Ovo nije pisao netko čitajuči neku online kartu već netko tko raspolaže sa preciznijim službenim podacima. Mislim da je ovo treba iskoristiti, no možda ipak pitati autora od kuda mu toliko detaljni opisi. Super izvor Tihomore. Ako se čuješ s autorom svakako mu objasni i pricipe OSM projkta pa možda budemo imali novog kolegu ;) -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] jednom je slucajnost, dvaput je podudarnost, a triput je vec zavjera
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:51:24 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: srecom jos nismo do stupnja zavjere dosli nesto se dogadja na horizontu? Cloudmade se sumnjivo prazni od OSMa 5.10.2010 http://opengeodata.org/osm-founder-steve-coast-leaves-cloudmade 8.10.2010 http://opengeodata.org/last-community-ambassador-resigns-from-cloudm Koliko sam pratio covjek se ozenio i ima sada druge prioritete i drugi smjer nego raditi u cloudemade-u. Ne vidim tu neku zavjeru, ali ako znas nesto vise molim te podjeli s ostalima. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 12:11, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute it now for free? Why? They are forced to by the CC-BY-SA License. Peter Sorry for this lame question, but on mapquest.com site I only see (c) by NAVTEQ, no mention of OSM, why?!? Do they use OSM data? I see some more detailed data in some parts than on OSM has so I guess they have licenced it from somewhere else, or they combine NAVTEQ and OSM data? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 um 14:40 schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: I agree that we need to have a map to demonstrate what one can do with OSM. But in my opinion, the one we currently have already surpasses, by a large margin, that which would be required to attract people to the project. And still people whine about our lack of vision! Nonsense Frederic, Justin makes a number of very valid points that make the impression on the average visitor, that show we are a unstructured community in some ways. And no-one is whining, we are trying to make a better OSM, and the mapnik map is in most of the cass the first impression the user gets. We have voluntarily choosen to use the MAP(NIK) as 80% of our frontpage. There are no statements about that are just in for data quality. That is the first (and too often) the last impression a visitor gets. I'm not sure how much we have chosen to have a big map on the front page. It has been this way for years and hasn't change while the project itself has changed and involved in a lot of ways. Why don't we display more info about our project on the front page but instead let the user more or less guess what we are about (by showing them a map and a search box that looks a little bit like yet another Google Maps clone and a small text description + a few links.) Why don't we show them different map styles to choose from. We can force them to choose a map style and they will learn that OSM has more than one map (and maybe they also understand that OSM data can be used to produce different maps, but it's a start anyway). Or do you really think that this little plus over there is discovered by anyone visiting osm.org for the first time? Why don't we show them upfront that we already have thousands of contributors mapping right now (think of something like those maps showing edits live) and make information about how this mapping is done available with just one click? Why don't we show them that OSM contributors meet up in local groups to have fun? Why don't we show them the different ways OSM data can be used - OSM data on mobile devices like smartphones and outdoor GPS devices, routing based on OSM, mashups with OSM basemaps... Why shouldn't we educate the visitors and make them learn what OSM truly is. As long as we can agree, that OSM is more than a small text description on the side and a big map, we can do a much better job showing the diversity and richness of OSM and giving the visitors reasons why they should want to contribute to this awesome project. And of course, I know that this needs someone to write the code for it and write the text and pick some images. But I think that making osm.org look even more similar to Google Maps and the like is the wrong way [1]. Also, please don't tell me that we can't put all this information on the front page, we can. Web pages can be longer than 600px because there is scrolling. Web pages can contain elements that move like a slideshow. They can contain small videos and images. We might even have all this information available in our wiki already, but why shouldn't we display it upfront on osm.org? -Jonas [1] We can still do this and make it available as maps.osm.org for example and put a pretty big link on osm.org But it shouldn't be the main element on osm.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Great idea! Why not? I immediately thought about www.linuxmint.com because they have done this and executed it beuatifully. You can see on their site different products and info about each of them. This would probably also work great for OSM. OSM is clearly not onyl the map but that is what is shown to people the minute they type in www.osm.org why not place map on www.osm.org/map or map.osm.org but create a homepage that shows the beautiful diversity of OSM project? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-hr] OpenStreetMap nista ne valja
http://www.41latitude.com/post/1310985699/openstreetmap-critique Jako zanimljiv članak, i s pogleda novog osm člana sasvim mi se čini opravdana kritika. Naravno ovo nije članak koji je pljuvacina vec konkretno ukazuje podrucja koja treba popraviti, te se niti u jednom trenutku ne omalovazavaju OSM vrijednih volonteri koji sudjeluju na projektu. Uvijek sam za konstruktivne kritike, samo tako projekt moze napredovati. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] njemci i ceste ;)
zanimljiv komentar sa strane mailing liste ;) So if, say, you think you need eight levels of importance within your highway network, yet OSM only has seven (motorway, trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary, unclassified, residential), screw it. Invent another one. Quaternary or minor or something. The Germans have done that (motorroad=yes) and no-one has died as a result. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:07:56 +0200, Milo van der Linden wrote: Making the perfectly rendered map available to the world is *not* a mission goal for the OSMF. The OSMF is primarily responsible for maintaining the database and the services related to it. Well then OSMF should change their mission to include nice representation of data also, not to compete with commercial companies just to make defalut map not suck would be nice ;). -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:58:20 -0400, Paul Houle wrote: It's better to say we know we could do it better and we'll do better in the future. +1 always for constructive criticism, and should be accepted by any project that wants to go forward. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:36:48 +, Ed Avis wrote: That's surely a lot of the reason why OSM looks strange from an American point of view, but he does have a couple of valid points - the map does look a bit 'washed out' at low zoom levels, with many similar shades of almost-grey (which may be tasteful for a printed map, but less good on a computer screen), and again at low zoom levels the country and city labels look very similar. This seams a simple problem to solve, right? Only some minor adjustement in mapnik colour scheme to get higher contrast ratio between different objects. Can I contribute somehow and get this done? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:39:07 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: But I have no problem with openstreetmap.org being British rather than some bland kind of international - we can do tiles on openstreetmap.de in a more German style, and tiles on openstreetmap.us in a more US style, and so on. Is there a way so that international groups get theri own (virtual) server but so that it is located together with other servers? I can imagine us.osm.org, uk.osm.org, hr.osm.org and so on... Ofcourse people would need to pay to get their server maintained and I see no problem there if prices would be reasonable. If lets say 20-30 osm volounteers can pay to keep the server running that would be the way to go. Then every country community could have it's rendering made as they need it. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:11:34 +1100, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: That is your opinion For others, the nice map is important. Agreed, and I hope we can vote so that people who are willing to make usable maps be in OSMF board not ones that dont. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute it now for free? Why? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-hr] ima li jos i-gotU GPS trackera?
Ima li jos negdje za nabaviti i-gotU GPS trackera kod nas? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Bankomati za OpenStreetMap projekt
Poštovani, ako su vam potrebne bilo kakve dodatne informacije slobodno mi se obratite. Ugodan dan vam želim, Valent Turković. 2010/9/25 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Poštovani, obraćam vam se u ime hrvatske podružnice OpenStreetMap projekta koja ima za cilj napraviti slobodnu, otvorenu i besplatnu kartu cijeloga svijeta. Projekt se oslanja potpuno na rad volontera a ideja koja pokreće ovaj projekt je Kada bi svatko kartirao samo svoj kvart vrlo brzo bismo imali kartu cijeloga svijeta. Kako bismo imali što bogatije karte cilj nam je unijeti što više različitih vrsta podataka, imena ulica, škole, bolnice, restorane pa tako i bankomate. Ja osobno kao i ostali volonteri stalno unosimo nove podatke o bankomatima koje vidimo na terenu, no podaci koje unosimo mogu biti sporadični pošto ne znamo gdje se sve nalaze bankomati niti znamo koje smo možda propustili. Ovim putem vas molim da nam dozvolite korištenje vašeg službenog popis bankomata za potrebe OpenStreetMap projekta. OpenStreetMap projekt je neprofitna organizacija no svi podaci koji se unesu u OpenStreetMap bazu podataka mogu se koristiti u neprofitne ali i u komercijalne svrhe. Za detalje o samome projektu možete proučiti službene stranice projekta http://wiki.openstreetmap.org, tamo možete vidjeti kako je ovaj projekt globalan te ima aktivnih volontera iz čitavoga svijeta [1]. Ako vas zanima kako izgleda jedan mapping party pri kojem se prikupljaju podaci pogledajte kratak video prilog [2]. Unaprijed se zahvaljujem na pozitivnim odgovoru i za sva dodatna pitanja stojim vam na raspolaganju, Valent Turković. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_projects [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKP4M49BAbI -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Rijeka ima heben ortofoto
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:55:18 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Ima li ekipe iz Rijeke na mailing listi? Nisam gledao tko je najaktivniji u Rijeci no mogu pomoći u zamolbi i pomoći oko pregovora za ortofoto grada Rijeke za potrebe OSM projekta ako će lokalna RI ekipa koristiti ortofoto za unos podataka u OSM. Nije valjda da nema niti jednog Rijecana na listi? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:44:35 +0200, Tihomir Heidelberg wrote: Badljevina - Garešnica Sisak - Pokupsko Petrinja - Hrvatska Kostajnica Glina - Dvor Vojnić - Velika Kladuša Ovo imam snimljeno GPSom, samo trebam uhvatiti vremena to ucrtati. Nakon što uploadaš GPX trase javi mi pa ti mogu pomoći i pokazati jednu naprednu tehniku s kojom možeš vrlo brzo unijeti dugačke ceste bez puno klikanja. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:05:09 +0200, hbogner wrote: Korespodencija sa korisnikom srpskicrv, SilverSpace mi je ukazao na njega: Matija ti si više upućen u temu pa ovo je pitanje više za tebe. Gledam odgovore ma legal mailing list i čudno mi je kako neki govore da to nije problem za koristiti, čak iskusni članovi. Dakle kako na kraju stojimo s time? Da li je srpskicrv u pravu i može li koristiti karte za unos podataka za sve osim za Srbiju? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pitanje oko vlasničkih prava i tuđih popisa i OSM wikija
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:51:38 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Evo Google doca: https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1uvFLfj1FGEONa- K7wRteOdEmyCtUSGkvrIdpn5P0uKMhl=enauthkey=CKzZh7oM Upisao sam sve zdravstvene ustanove koje sam našao za Zagreb. Nadam se da će zaživjeti! Ako projektić uspije, možemo prijeći na druge ustanove. Janko Dodao sam info za Osiječki dom zdravlja, kada smo kod njega imam pitanje kako tagirati dom zdravlja? Isto kao bolnicu ili? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] Što gazda ESRI-ja kaže o OSM projekt u
http://opengeodata.org/esris-jack-dangermond-on-openstreetmap -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:21:10 +0200, Tihomir Heidelberg wrote: On 7.10.2010 13:15, Tihomir Heidelberg wrote: Jedino mi sumnjiva ova cesta Badljevina - Garešnica ! Često sam u tom kraju pa sam na prvu ispalio da ću to riješiti, ali se ispostavilo da niti imam trace te trace niti znam koja bi to cesta bila. Any tip ? Ah da, skužio sam sam. D26, budem je snimio krajem mjeseca kada prođem tu cestu. Tihomir Svaka čast, vidim već je sve ucrtano, dobro tebi to ide ;) -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] [OpenStreetMap] Re: Rijeka
Malo kasnim, ali bar sam sada regularno uključen u ovu mailing listu, pa ću vidjeti i druge vijesti. Neka, taman si stigao na akademsku četvrt, pa ne kasniš previše ;) A o Rijeci - ti si me vjerojatno pronašao po tome da sam nešto editirao po Rijeci ljetos, no zapravo sam ja u Zagrebu, i u Rijeci sam rijetko, tj. nemam neke kontakte od kud bih krenuo po pitanju tih ortofoto slika. Je gledao sam tko je radio po Rijeci i njima poslao poruke. Ima dosta aktivnih ljudi iz cijele hrvatske ali nismo povezani i malo nas je na mailing listi što je šteta. No slike su super! Pokazao sam frendu iz Rijeke da vidi čime mu je doma popločen krov! Što ćemo sad? Napisati neko pristojno pismo na adresu koja valjda negdje piše na tim stranicama i objastini kakvu dozvolu tražimo? Darko Da, tako bih trebali krenuti. Imam dopis koji sam slao gradu Osijeku pa ću ga malo generalizirati i staviti na WIKI. Znaš li koga još iz Rijeke tko radi na OSM-u ili tko bi se uključio? Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pitanje oko vlasničkih prava i tuđi h popisa i OSM wikija
Dodao sam info za Osiječki dom zdravlja, kada smo kod njega imam pitanje kako tagirati dom zdravlja? Isto kao bolnicu ili? Ja sam to istraživao prije, i čini mi se da je sve to hospital. Možeš još dodati emergency=yes ako imaju hitnu. U name ja stavim Dom zdravlja BlaBla ili Klinička bolnica BlaBla, pa ih to razlikuje. I rade se isto kao škole, cijela površina bolnice se zaokruži sa površinom amenity=hospital, a građevine unutar bolnice su samo building=yes. Evo kako sam ja ucrtao Vrapče u Zagrebu: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.81662lon=15.89744zoom=17layers=M Ovo je baš dobro odrađeno, pogledat ću i ove naše bolnice jesu li tako ili ne pa popraviti ako treba. Postoji i amenity=doctor kao proposed tag, ali ne kužim za što bi se to Vjerovatno za označiti doktora koji ima privatnu praksu a ne radi u bolnici, ima logike? koristilo. Onda postoji amenity=dentist, ovo isto za sve zubare koji su u privatnoj praksi ili imaju ugovor s ZZJZ a nisu u zgradi doma zdravlja niti u bolnici. i emergency=ambulance_station za stanicu u kojoj stoje vozila za hitnu. Eto, da malo zaokružim svo moje znanje o ucrtavanju bolnica :) Janko Hvala, pomogao si mi. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:07:13 +0200, Hrvoje Bartolin wrote: Svaki GPS ima pogrešku, na linku Ako nabaviš dobar GPS te ako isti prima signal od 5 satelita onda je preciznost prilično dobra, više nego i potrebno za kvalitetnu kartu, bez brige s OSM kartama nećeš završiti u nekom jarku. Dakle prvi korak nabavi GPS ili posudi pa se možeš uključiti aktivno u projekt. No i bez GPS-a možeš hrpe stvari dodati, kao naprimjer POI točke (kafiće, trgovine, bankomate itd) Hrvoje iz kojeg si grada? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pisanje OSM projekta za udrugu
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:54:11 +0200, hbogner wrote: **bo te wave, komp mi je crko kad sam to otvorio, imajte milosti prema nama koji imamo stare kante :D Probaj chromium kao browser, firefox malo stuca na toliko puno javaskripta :( Nemam bas nekog iskustva oko psanja dokumentacija za natjecaje, ali okvirno mi izgleda ok. budem uskoro poslao i odt i pdf kako sam osmislio projekt. U biti ti nitko nece dati nikakva sredstva za OSM niti bilo kome da zaradi nešto na tome, što je ok i tako udruge niti ne bi trebale raditi. Novac dobiješ za predavanja, radionice i predavače. Tako je projekt i napisan. Ako netko ima iskustva s projektima svakako bi dobro došla pomoć oko dalje razrade. Mozda bi malo vise trebalo naglasiti turisticki aspekt i mogucnosti. Takodjer mozda dodati i biciklisticke ture za turiste, koko je to napravio za Sinj. To se može napisati u opisu projekta, no u grad neće dati udruzi da novac da napravi kartu, koliko god to bilo blesavo, već će naručiti da se karta izradi ako im treba i platit će nekome. Ako se udruga može pojaviti na natječaju sa svojom ponudom izrade karte onda se mogu dobiti novci i tako no tako nešto nisam još radio pa bi bilo zanimljivo čuti nekoga tko je. Turistička zajednica bi prije bila partner koja bi udruzi mogla donirati sredstva ili opremu a onda volonteri udruge mogu napraviti kartu i pokloniti ju turističkoj zajednici. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:46:13 +0200, hbogner wrote: http://sautter.com/map/? zoom=8lat=45.11618lon=16.33667layers=00B000TFFF Evo što nam fali: Vrbovec - Čazma - Garešnica Badljevina - Garešnica Slatina - Požega Slatina - Đulovac - Daruvar Požega - Velika Nuštar - Bogdanovci - Petrovci Jagodnjak - staze juzno od njega Grabovac - Darda - Lug (staze između njih) Jagodnjak - Kozarac Kneževi Vinogradi - Kotlina - Podolje Karanac - Popovac - Branjina - Podolje - Kamenac (staze) Krapina - Pregrada - Tuhelj - Zabok Samobor - Žumberak - Ozalj Sisak - Pokupsko Petrinja - Hrvatska Kostajnica Glina - Dvor Vojnić - Velika Kladuša Labin i Žmilj (hrpe malih puteva okolo njih) Dopunite niz. Ima iz raznih Županija pa kome je što usput može pri vožnji malo skrenuti s uobičajene rute i prikupiti podatke, ja si već spremam listu za obilazak ;) -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:14:32 +0200, SilverSpace wrote: Za karte čisto sumljam da su legalne za crtanje. Evo jos jedan odgovor od srpskogcrva koji sam proslijedio na legal listu. Kaze da nema vremena citati legal listu?!? MIslim stvarno... Okay, even if I dont have time (this is the reason for not going on the mailing list, but you could give me the adress to subscribe to them), I am going to explain it to you: The maps were made in the 1974-1980 years by the MILITARY GEOGRAPHICAL INSTITUTE of Belgrade in SOCIALISTIC FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA 1992, Yugoslavia crashed. New countries were born: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Hercegovina, Montenegro, Makedonia (F.Y.R.O.M.) and Serbia (and others say also Kosovo). Those maps were made by the military by them own, so something governmental. The inhabitants were buying that and its opend source as long the governement or the military says NO (and they said NO) Since the new countries exist, the VGI has NO responsibility or right to create maps of those countries, as long as they dont give an order to do so (but the didn't!) Those countries have their own geogrphical or geodesist institutes. So: the VGI is selling those OLD prints and they have still an copyright on reproduction of those papers, BUT NOT THE CONTAINED DATA !!! The VGI has only responsibility on the land of Serbia (nowadays) and there, of course I am NOT ALLOWED to use the datas! I agree that it is a grey zone, but who will say that its illegal? In my case, I am working on Bosnia (and not Croatia anymore): The VGI cannot accuse, cause they have not the right on the datas, its an own country! Bosnia has no right on the datas, cause they gave no order to be made. those maps (the datas on them) are FREE (as long as you dont use it on Serbian terretory). It is difficult to explain it for me in this language, but you can trust me, that I am right, and as normal, there are a lot of people, who think in an other way. Thinking is not enough. Knowing its better. I am working in a govermental company in germany, which is dealing with licenses and I have the knowledge. I was reading constitutions and I got in contact with the Bosnian governement and the serbian VGI. I bought those maps by my own from the VGI (yes, as a foreighner you can buy those maps, but not those which have datas of serbia on them). Everything what I am making should be confirmed ot the place, I wil go there in next spring 2011. And I will look up with my GPS if the work, I did is correct. You cannot do everything by using gps, e.g. Rivers, streams, power lines, forests, basins etc. I hope you understand me and you agree with me or better you trust me, that I am not doing anything wrong. Yours, Leo -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 18:15:49 +0200, Marjan Vrban wrote: Daj to probaj stavit nekako cijelu HR, da vidimo di smo ... Ima ogranicen zoom level na koji se moze otici i sve preko 1/4 hrvatske odbija analizirati :( No mislim da postoje druge statistike koje se mogu koristiti umjesto ovog itoworld-ovog alata. Zna li netko? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 08:02:16 +, Ed Avis wrote: Or does srpskicrv mean that the mapping agency of Serbia is the only entity that claims copyright, and further that it has released the maps to the public domain? Here is his answer: Okay, even if I dont have time (this is the reason for not going on the mailing list, but you could give me the adress to subscribe to them), I am going to explain it to you: The maps were made in the 1974-1980 years by the MILITARY GEOGRAPHICAL INSTITUTE of Belgrade in SOCIALISTIC FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA 1992, Yugoslavia crashed. New countries were born: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Hercegovina, Montenegro, Makedonia (F.Y.R.O.M.) and Serbia (and others say also Kosovo). Those maps were made by the military by them own, so something governmental. The inhabitants were buying that and its opend source as long the governement or the military says NO (and they said NO) Since the new countries exist, the VGI has NO responsibility or right to create maps of those countries, as long as they dont give an order to do so (but the didn't!) Those countries have their own geogrphical or geodesist institutes. So: the VGI is selling those OLD prints and they have still an copyright on reproduction of those papers, BUT NOT THE CONTAINED DATA !!! The VGI has only responsibility on the land of Serbia (nowadays) and there, of course I am NOT ALLOWED to use the datas! I agree that it is a grey zone, but who will say that its illegal? In my case, I am working on Bosnia (and not Croatia anymore): The VGI cannot accuse, cause they have not the right on the datas, its an own country! Bosnia has no right on the datas, cause they gave no order to be made. those maps (the datas on them) are FREE (as long as you dont use it on Serbian terretory). It is difficult to explain it for me in this language, but you can trust me, that I am right, and as normal, there are a lot of people, who think in an other way. Thinking is not enough. Knowing its better. I am working in a govermental company in germany, which is dealing with licenses and I have the knowledge. I was reading constitutions and I got in contact with the Bosnian governement and the serbian VGI. I bought those maps by my own from the VGI (yes, as a foreighner you can buy those maps, but not those which have datas of serbia on them). Everything what I am making should be confirmed ot the place, I wil go there in next spring 2011. And I will look up with my GPS if the work, I did is correct. You cannot do everything by using gps, e.g. Rivers, streams, power lines, forests, basins etc. I hope you understand me and you agree with me or better you trust me, that I am not doing anything wrong. Yours, Leo -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [Talk-hr] source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 07:22:29 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: idem poslati poruku na legal listu ako vec vi niste pa ga tamo pozvati na otvorenu raspravu Poslao sam mail na legal listu, Matija ti imaš više znanja na tu temu pa te molim da dopuniš moj mail ako smatraš da sam nešto izostavio ili krivo napisao. Hvala, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] poziv hrvatskim biciklistima
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:30:52 +0200, hbogner wrote: Ja promoviram OSM na dropbike forumu: http://www.dropbike.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=42 Odlično, uzet ću tvoju poruku kao osnovu za dopis ostalim forumima i biciklističkim udrugama. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] Rijeka ima heben ortofoto
http://www2.rijeka.hr/dof10/ Imaju odlicnu snimku rezolucije 10cm, web aplikacija je također vrlo dobro napravljena, jedini nedostatak koji vidim je što nije slippy karta pa nema povlačenja mišem već za to postoji poseban alat. Od mogućnosti koje vidim tu je mjerenje kuta, površine i duljine. Sve odlične i praktične stvari za hrpe ljudi i službi koji se bave raznim poslovima. Nisam probao ali vidim da imaju i export u pdf trentunog pogleda. Kao dodatan sloj podatak može se uključiti i katastar. Ima li još koji grad ovako dobro i javno dostupnu ortofoto kartu? Ako sam ja u Osijeku dobio na korištenje ortofoto za OSM projekt vjerovatno bi se moglo dobiti i za Rijeku. Koliko sam čuo grad Rijeka je otvoreniji za suradnje nego što je to Osijek ili drugi gradovi. Ima li ekipe iz Rijeke na mailing listi? Nisam gledao tko je najaktivniji u Rijeci no mogu pomoći u zamolbi i pomoći oko pregovora za ortofoto grada Rijeke za potrebe OSM projekta ako će lokalna RI ekipa koristiti ortofoto za unos podataka u OSM. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:01:31 +0200, Zoran Jankovic wrote: Ali, trebalo bi stvarno upitati i nekog pravnog stručnjaka za takve stvari... Treba spriječiti bilo kojeg OSM korisnika ako namjerno ili u neznanju cini stetu OSM projektu unošenjem nedozvoljenih podataka pogotovo u zemljama u kojima ne živi. Predlažem da se rasprava prebaci na osm-legal i t...@osm liste i tamo upoznaju osm klapa što srpskicrv radi jer će otežati pokretanje OSM projekta gdje god unosi nedozvoljene podatke koji će se prije ili kasnije ukloniti pa će tako samo napraviti štetu OSM volonterima iz tog kraja. POslao sam mu ovu poruku srpskomcrvu: Hi, please don't use any maps that aren't legal. Any map that isn't listed on this wiki page isn't legal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-of-copyright_maps If you want to use maps with source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD you FIRST need to check on openstreetmap legal mailing list. From our discussion on Croatian osm list we concluded that what you are doing isn't legal in OSM project so please stop drawing from those maps. We have more that few GPS sensor units that we can borrow to people on the ground and we can record lost of tracks that way so if you want we can give you and you can collect data that way. Please respond to talk-hr@openstreetmap.org and le...@openstreetmap.org mailing lists. Thank you, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:12:54 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: If you get something in writing, the best thing to get is something where they allow you to use their data for publication as part of OpenStreetMap. That would then include the current and any future license. Do not under any circumstances accept data that is released under CC-BY-SA as this is a dead-end that will require re-negotiation soon. Thank you for these tips, I'll do it that way. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?
Hi, if I would write an NGO project for my hometown (Osijek in Croatia) that does some specific data collection of some type (like all bus stations, all cycle tracks, etc). Do I need some special permission from OSM board to do this? Second question that I have is, been there been some joint ventures between OSM and some cities/towns or local government (except Haiti)?. Has anybody gotten support from their local government or city council? On what kind of project have you been working on? We have a local NGO and would like to present OSM and ask for support, but city council would like to see how can they benefit from it. Just explaining how OSM is a great project and how it has hundreds of thousands active members won't impress them. We have one nice example as city owned transport company uses OSM maps on their website and shows trams in transit via gps. I would love to hear more positive feedback from people who have made contact between OSM and local government and/or cities. What for can local government use OSM maps and data for? Any good example would be great! Thank you in advance for your feedback, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:50:09 -0300, Aun Yngve Johnsen wrote: You mean, how would the city council benefit apart from the fact they are participating in a free, powerful routable map with loads of features? Free worldwide distribution, availability on several types of equipment. Software to make everything from local restaurant guides, to routable maps with custom warnings. Besides there are thousands and thousands of volunteers doing the work for them, without getting paid, demanding no more than access to the finished works. In short yes ;) Longer answer: I really need so spell it out to them what is the advantage for them locally. To be blunt they probably don't care what we did on Haiti or other parts of the world, but they would like to know how OSM could be used locally for our town. Project documentation is clear that they will support only projects that benefit local population. Any support we get can't be used to travel somewhere and map there, we need to collect data locally or use local data in some new and interesting ways. That is why I would like to hear from cities that are between 100,000-500,000 population on what projects have they collaborated on with their city council. As this is local (not state or EU) government the big emphasis is on local benefit. City council doesn't care too much about maps of restaurants, and we aren't such big city that we need that such specific kind of map because there are maybe 5-6 decent restaurants any everybody knows them. Cheers, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-hr] Pitanje oko vlasničkih prava i tuđih popisa i OSM wikija
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:16:43 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Cilj je nekakvo rješenje za koje ne treba tražiti dopuštenje objavljivača. Ako se popis iskopira na wiki, onda se to može shvatiti kao javno objavljivanje. Možda staviti na neki poluprivatni google doc? Ne znam, ne bih želio nešto napraviti i dobiti po glavi. Postoji li već nekakvo rješenje? Onda piči na interni google docs. Inaće savjetujem da se upoznate s ljudima u gradu, turističkoj zajedici i ostalim uredima, odete do njih, popričate i probate naći model za suradnju. Koko bi tu mogao biti poster child pa malo podjeliti par savjeta jer je on prvi uspješno napravio konkretnu suradnju. Osobno sam bio par puta bio u turističkoj zajednici Osijeka i podržat će OSM projekt no još ne znaju kako jer su trenutno bez para. Ono što sam uspio dogovoriti je dobivanje podataka koje oni imaju (imaju dosta podataka za Osijek već posloženih u kml filu na njihovom siteu) i na njihovu podršku pri razgovoru s dogradonačelnikom. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Pretjerivanje sa tagom parkinga
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:41:16 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Nije parking http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2008/11/29/svetice1.jpg Nije parkinghttp://www.prometna-zona.com/cutenews/data/upimages/parking.JPG Hmm, slažem se s time da ne treba biti previše parking oznaka po km2 no ako je službeno gradski parking koji je tako označen, a pogotovo ako se plaća onda bih ga označio. Čak bi neki grad onda mogao točno znati koliko i gdje ima parking mjesta. Tu smo opet nekako na granici mapiranja za renderer ili ne. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] poziv hrvatskim biciklistima
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:29:50 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: kao sto je Zeljko spomenuo, nema neke koristi od wavea. A zasto stavljati u google doc kada ce se onda pretociti u wiki -- pa nije problem odmah pisati u wiki. Stvar je jednostavnosti i praktičnosti, google docs i wave su za stupanj jednostavniji i bolji za uređivanje teksta od direktnog uređivanja na wikiju (nije wysiwyg), a koliko sam vidio jako malo ljudi iz .hr osm ekipe radi na wikiju a nije ni da nas ima baš puno, pa onda još da bez veze otpadnu ljudi kojima wiki ne leži... zato idem na jednostavnost iako ću zbog toga ja imati malo više posla. Što kažete na ovaj prijedlog? Što bi trebao biti sadržaj članka? Imate prijedloge? Petica iz zalaganja, ali nisam siguran koliko je opencyclemap.org friends trenutno upotrebljiv na podrucju trenutno HR. Imamo li barem par primjera za pokazati gdje je dobro slozen i lijepo izgleda? To su selling pointi, a onda pokazes da negdje drugdje i nisu tako dobro rijeseni, i kako bi bilo super da oni pomognu poboljsati, i detalji kako (sa naglaskom koje metode bolje rade na biciklu a koje losije). Ne vidim tu nikakav problem. Kada sam krenuo u ueđivanje OSM podataka Osijeka tu su bile 2-3 glavne ceste, no nije me to demotiviralo već suprotno. Pogledao sam okolne gradove poput Pecuha, Novog Sada i Budimpešte kao dobre primjere (Zg je u to vrijeme bio jako loš primjer) i krenuo. Dakle slažem se da treba naći dobre primjere no oni mogu biti bilo gdje, ne vidim zašto baš moraju biti (a možda ih i ima) iz .hr? Dakle ima li dobrih primjera u .hr? Koji su dobri primjeri iz Europe? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OpenStreetMap LinuxZaSve Forum
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:58:12 +0200, Josip Sokcevic wrote: meni (tipa RSS feed, pretplata na mail, attach slika, formatiranje teksta). U biti, to sto sam napisao je moje osobno misljenje, s tim se netko moze slozit, a ne mora... Dosta toga se dobije koristiš li nntp news sučelje (gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.hr) umjesto emaila. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] Grassroots maping zračna fotografija
http://vimeo.com/10213658 http://cartagen.org/maps Jako sam se ugodno iznenadio vec postavljenom infrastrukturom za manipulaciju i rektifikaciju zracnih snimki. Vec sam se prije raspitivao o zracnim snimkama no sada cu definitivno podebljati trud i nabaviti zracne snimke s koje bi trebale biti cak puno detaljnije of ortofoto slike Osijeka koju trenutno koristim. Ako se pokaze prakticno onda se moze koristiti i za druge gradove koji nemaju nikakve zracne snimke kako bi se dobila kvalitetna podloga za unos podatak u OSM bazu. Sto mislite? Imate prijedlog kako poceti koristiti zracne snimke za osm? Kako ih dobaviti? Aeroklubovi? Avioni na daljinsko? Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Prenoćišta i sobe
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:26:32 +, Ivan Biuklija wrote: Na kojoj listi? t...@openstreetmap.org ? ako ima neka specificna neka me netko ispravi, no ako posaljes tamo usmjerit ce te odmah u pravom smjeru. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OpenStreetMap LinuxZaSve Forum
Mislim da je Šokac htio u dobroj namjeri promovirati osm ekipi s foruma koja inače ne bi došla na mailing listu, no mislim da si u pravu. Valent -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[OSM-talk] Money for NGOs mashup?
I would like to visualize how much money which NGOs get and also in from which towns most money goes to NGOs. I have data for last 5 years showing name of NGO, address, project name, project description and money granted. Should I use Geocommons? Custom php app? Any suggestion is more than welcome. Thank you in advance, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-hr] masovni edit bankomata
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:01:01 +0200, Darko Boto wrote: +1 za pune nazive Za Erste banku možete pogledati gdje se nalaze njihovi bankomati s njihove web stranice: http://www.erstebank.hr/oNama_bankomati.asp?ID=0 Nakon što vidite gdje se nalaze možete potvrditi da se nalaze ako obiđete taj kvart i nakon toga unesete bankomat u OSM. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] android poi
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:34:26 +0200, nixa wrote: zg je dosta dobro mapiran, pa reko da bar oznacavam kafice i slicno Ako ne nađeš ništa pametno na Androidu jedino što mogu svima savjetovati je www.walking-papers.org, isprintaš dio kroz koji se ideš šetati, olovku u ruke i pišeš. Definitivno NAJBRŽI način za prikupiti hrpe POI-a. Koristim MapZen POI collector i super je za unošenje 2-3 POI točke, no ako kreneš dodavati hrpe brzo će ti se prsti zgrčiti. Također savjetujem unos informacijski bogatih POI točaka. Informacijsko siromašne točke su one koje imaju samo najosnovnije podatke (ime i tip), bogate točke imaju extra meta podatke poput radnog vremena, web stranice, telefona i drugih informacija koje možete pronaći. Za unos informacijski bogatih točaka nema boljeg do diktafona ili papira i olovke te naknadnog unosa podataka za računalom. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] masovni edit bankomata
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:33:34 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Dodao sam još popise splitske, poštanske i kovanice. Ali važnije, trebalo bi objasniti čitaocima u kojoj mjeri se te liste smiju koristiti. Isto kao google karte, samo kao referenca da znaš gdje ćeš tražiti bankomat. I možda treba predložiti da se bankomati uslikaju i stave na openstreetview kao dokaz da nije prekopirano. Ili je to previše? Previše je tražiti slike, dovoljno je imati neki gpx log koji prolazi pored lokacija bankomata. Iako sumnjam da bi nas bilo koja banka i tužila kada bismo uzeli podatke od njih bez ikakve provjere, ali sam protiv toga čisto zbog preciznosti podataka više nego zbog pravne strane. Upravo testiram jednu iPhone Augmented Reality aplikaciju koja ima unešene sve bankomate u hrvatskoj tako što su po adresama slali upite (nisam siguran jesu li koristili google maps, mireo ili nešto treće) i koordinate koje su dobili su postavili u svoju bazu. Provjerio sam preko 15 bankomata i samo 2-3 su bila u krugu od 50m gdje su trebali, neki su bili postavljeni u raskrižja... u biti neupotrebljivi za bilo kakvu praktičnu primjenu. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-talk] Church building rendering bug?
My understanding so far was that I need to draw areas and then just on top of them any buiding that is there. So you are saying that I need to draw an area, then cut out the hole for building and then add building there? Or I can just use building as relation? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Church building rendering bug?
looks like a bug, yes. But your pedestrian area also has some problems: firstly you should make it a multipolygon, because the church is not a pedestrian area, and secondly the corners seem strange to me, given that roads are modeled in the center of the road and areas at their real position. Usually roads connecting a pedestrian area don't do this in the corner but with an offset of at least half the road width (often plus sidewalk width). cheers, Martin Is it now correctly mapped? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-hr] planinarski dom
Frend pita što treba koristiti za označavanje planinarskog doma? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[OSM-talk] Church building rendering bug?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38103012 Church building is not being shown by Mapnik. Is this some known bug? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-hr] masovni edit bankomata
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:49:16 +0200, hbogner wrote: Ja bi za banke puni naziv, a za bankomate samo kratice. Hoćemo neko glasanje uvesti jer eto već imamo različita mišljenja. Hoćemo pod name staviti kraticu a pod operator puno ime onda, ili? primjer: ameniti=atm name=PBZ operator=Privrebna Banka ili samo ameniti=atm operator=PBZ Neke banke imaju perverzno duga u nečitljiva imena te sam tu svakako za kratice. Za PBZ bih se složio da je možda bolje koristiti ime Privredna ili Privredna Banka no za Erste Steiermärkische Bank i Raiffeisenbank Austria mi bolje pašu kratice jer im imena nisu prilagođena našem jeziku. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] poziv hrvatskim biciklistima
Znam, no biti će živ do kraja godine a nakon toga će i tako finalni dokument biti na wikiju. On Friday, September 3, 2010, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: 2010/9/3 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com Što kažete da pokrenemo jedan zajednički dokument (google doc ili google wave) Možda bolje ne wave: We don’t plan to continue developing Wave. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/update-on-google-wave.html Željko -- watir.com - community manager watirpodcast.com - host testingpodcast.com - audio podcasts on software testing. all of them vidipodkast.com - pričamo o hardveru, softveru i časopisu Vidi -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] masovni edit bankomata
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:54:22 +, Ivan Biuklija wrote: Onda ćemo imati različite nazive bankomata zbog banaka s ATM=yes. Ali će imat istog provider=* tako da ne vidim neki problem tu. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] masovni edit bankomata
Želim urediti i dovesti u red bankomate u Hrvatskoj, prvo počevši o Osijeka a onda i ostale gradove. Prvo trebamo dogovoriti koja imena koristiti za provider tag. Evo prijedlozi: Banco popolare Centar Erste HPB Hypo Imex Istarska (Istarska banka) Kovanica Kreditna Međimurska OTP Partner PBZ Podravska RBA Split (Splitska banka) VABA Volksbank ZABA Molim da izrazite svoje mišljene o imenima, trebaju li biti ova kraća ili ima razloga koristiti puna imena banaka? S tehničke strane imam ideju kako urediti veći broj bankomata no javite mi ako ima bolji način: 1. Učitati u JOSM neki dio grada je funkcijom pretraživanja naći sve bankomate. 2. Prebaciti (cutpaste) bankomate u novi JOSM sloj zbog lakšeg uređivanja. 3. Sakriti glavni sloj podataka radi preglednosti i lakšeg uređivanja bankomata. Imate li prijedlog za bolji način uređivanja većeg broja točaka ili je ovo ok? Ugodan dan vam želim, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:08:43 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: No svejedno, postavio sam sad gomilu oneway:no tagova ali još ne ide dobro. Možda treba pričekati da izrenderira tagove.. Izgleda da sada dobro deluje ;) -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Prenoćišta i sobe
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:19:23 +, Ivan Biuklija wrote: S jedne strane kužim zašto to rade, prilično je važan fičer na karti, ali bed_and_breakfast tag je očito nestandardan, ni na wikiju ga nema pod tourism ključem. Ako pokreneš raspravu na OSM listi pošalji link jer bih te podržao u tome, mislim da nam treba službena oznaka za manja prenočišta koja nisu hoteli niti hosteli. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:50:56 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Poslao sam im mail, javim kada dođe odgovor. Dobio sam odgovor, izgleda da je ipak problem u podacima i treba ih malo popraviti: Nice to hear from you again Valent, I got a much shorter demonstration route [2] after playing with the markers. According to [1], motorway_links are oneway unless tagged with oneway=no. [1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link [2]: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/index.html? lat=45.51689lon=15.55214zoom=15layers=B000FTFTTv=motorcaradj=recommendedmarkers= %2145.51931%2C15.55631%2145.51539%2C15.5477 -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:55:34 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Treba naći neki mail na koji se mogu slati bugovi.. Janko Poslao sam im mail, javim kada dođe odgovor. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] OpenStreetMap LinuxZaSve Forum
http://www.linuxzasve.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=45start=0 Šokac je otvorio podforum za OpenStreetMap na www.linuxzasve.com forumu. Eto još jedan kanal za komunikaciju. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] oznacavanje uskih ulica
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:29:58 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: Ima li ovaj prijedlog smisla? Vecinom, osim sto bi onaj footway bez gradacije se trebao crtatati kao i do sada (vidi gore dio koji sam spominjao sa promjenom defaulta i nervozom ljudi), isto kao i grade = 2. Dakle prijedlog bi bio highway=footway, koji ima trackgrade=1 bi trebalo crtati kao punu liniju takve i takve debljine i takve boje na zoom levelima takvim i takvim; radi xzy pod xyz treba staviti neko dobro objasnjenje zasto je bolje da se crta kao tanka linija umjesto kao crtice (that is the hard part), te pozivanje na t...@h renderer koji vec radi tako. Takodjer se treba pozvati da nece utjecati na default case nego samo na one koji su namjerno tako oznacili dodatnim tagovima. Kljucni dio je stoga smisliti dobro obrazlozenje zasto su tockice losije od tanke crte, osim onog svidja mi se tako. Pozivanje na konzistenciju sa drugim slicnim tipovima puteva i sl. je jedna od mogucnosti. Sve to treba istraziti; pa predloziti ovdje na listu, pa neku raspravu pokrenuti, pa mozda jos nesto dodati i tako. Pa kada se ljudi sloze da je to najpametnije sto nam pada na pamet trenutno i da ne znamo sto bi u prijedlogu izmijenili, onda tek polako krenuti dalje s tim. Stvar je naime da oni koji odlucuju oko stavljanja toga moraju odluciti: a) koliku ce to stetu napraviti postojecoj situaciji b) koliku ce to korist donjeti novotagiranim stvarima c) koliko je to posla za implementirati. Ako je k1*b - k2*a - k3*c 0, onda se to nece napraviti. Zelis napraviti da je rezultat te formule sto veci pozitivan broj. Cim imas nesto sto ce dovesti do toga da je a velik (sto ces vidjeti po broju ljudi koji ce se javiti da ce njima stvoriti dodatni posao i da to ne zele nego im je dobro kako je sada, ili cak zele u suprotnu stranu), prijedlog ti je prakticki osudjen na propast, jer to neces uspjeti nadoknaditi niti sa vrhunskim i vrlo interesatnim b. E da, i k1k2k3. P.S. Pozdrav iz matematicko-socioloskog odjela Procedura bi bila (kronoloski): 1) staviti par takvih tagova na par desetaka mjesta i poslati neke kao primjer skupa s prijedlogom (i trenutnim Mapnik i t...@h renderanjem, i PNGom svog home-made-renderanja kako bi zelio da to izgleda u konacnici) 2) raspraviti na tagging listi za komentare, i vidjeti kako ljudi disu. Prihvatiti dodatne prijedloge i izmjene ako nisu extenzivni i imaju smisla. 3) postaviti jos parsto takvih takvih tagova po Hrvatskoj i drugim zemljama gdje smo renderirali. 4) predloziti za ukljucivanje u renderer, sa primjerima, linkovima na diskusiju, tagstatsom (tu je bitna tocka 3 naravno) i raspravom na wikiju (upisati tamo pod Talk da je pokrenuta diskusija na listi itd), i slikicama i po mogucnosti patchem za mapnik (kojeg i tako imas dok si si doma slagao PNG kako zelis da izgleda) Pričao sam malo na IRC-u i čuo da postoji jedan tag koji se koristi: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale Morat ću malo detaljnije pogledati može li se s tim tagom rješiti svi slučajevi za pješčke i biciklističke staze kod nas te ima li smisla ili ne još koji dodatni tag kreirati? Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] OSM vs AdriaTOPO 1.00 LITE
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:48:20 +0200, hbogner wrote: danas je slozena skripta koja ce svaki dan generirati ne samo rutabilnu kartu hrvatske Nisi rekao kakvu kartu? Prvo sam pretpostavio da pričaš o online karti no vidim da si dao linkove na neke datoteke. Možeš pojasniti o čemu je riječ, možda bi bilo dobro staviti te karte i na WIKI? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:15:07 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: umjesto na autoput. Gdje je problem? Izgleda ovdje: http://www.openstreetmap.org/? mlat=45.512063mlon=15.548539zoom=17layers=M Kao da je ilaz izlaz/ulaz na autoput kod Karlovca krivo ucrtan. Idem popraviti pa provjeri ponovo. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:27:07 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Kao da je ilaz izlaz/ulaz na autoput kod Karlovca krivo ucrtan. Idem popraviti pa provjeri ponovo. Pardon, nije tu problem nego na petlji Lučko, nema prelaza sa sjeverne strane zagrebačke obilaznice prema Karlovcu. Pogledajte ovaj url i sve će vam biti jasno: http://tinyurl.com/34dxwf3 -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:27:07 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:15:07 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: umjesto na autoput. Gdje je problem? Izgleda ovdje: http://www.openstreetmap.org/? mlat=45.512063mlon=15.548539zoom=17layers=M Kao da je ilaz izlaz/ulaz na autoput kod Karlovca krivo ucrtan. Idem popraviti pa provjeri ponovo. Preciznijim postavljanjem početne i krajnje točke vidi se da je karta dobra, u pravu si greška je negdje u routing engineu. http://tinyurl.com/32qrzfb Pretpostavljam da vozi po cestama veće klase ali ga buni tag motorway_link koji je umjesto da ima rang kao i motorway ima niži pa zato prebaci na secundary i primary cestu umjesto da ostane na autoputu... čisto moja pretpostavka, treba pitati autore routing enginea. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] ATM
Imam prijatelje u PBZ, Erste i ZABA bankama pa ću vidjeti može li se doći do tih podataka. Samo 150 bankomata je dodano? To mi je jako malo, sam sam ih dodao par desetaka, Osijek, Zagreb, Rogoznica, Rab, Crikvenica, Rijeka... Ako imate iPhone tople preporuke za Mapzen POI collector. On Wednesday, August 25, 2010, Nikola Kapraljevic nikola.kapralje...@gmail.com wrote: OK je ovaj link koji je Valent dao pa cemo nesto sloziti. 2010/8/25 Matija Nalis mnalis-d...@voyager.hr: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:22:36AM +0200, Nikola Kapraljevic wrote: Ufff, 151 bankomat... PBZ sam ima gotovo 600 bankomata :/ Pa seci po cesti i ukucaj ih. Sami od sebe se sigurno nece pojaviti :) Ili probaj traziti od PBZa da li bi bili voljni (ako imaju) dati na koristenje pod CC-BY-SA 2.0 licencom GPS lokacije svih svojih bankomata, da ih se moze ukucati u OSM. Objasnis im usput da ce to primarno koristiti upravo direktno njima i korisnicima njihovih bankomata (dakle opet njima), jer ce ih ljudi lakse naci kada trebaju ATM... [ vidi na http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HR:Copyright kako sam ja trazio prava za koristenje postaneskih brojeva kao primjer ] Mozda da se eventualno napravi nekakav nacin za dodavanje pa da ljudi mogu lakse dodati sami bankomate. Valjda postoji nekakav API kojim bi se to moglo ugurati u OSM. Errr, pa da, APIv0.6 trenutno, kako bi se inace unosilo da nema APIa ? A imas i hrpicu gotovih aplikacija za mobitele (meni se svidja GpsMid java recimo) koji imaju mogucnost online ili offline (preko GPS tracka) uploada POIa i drugog. Ili preko weba obicnog domaceg klines na mapu i kazes dodaj amenity=ATM, koliko jednostavnije moze biti? -- Opinions above are GNU-copylefted. -- Nikola Kapraljević mail: nikola.kapralje...@gmail.com phone: +385 95 911 5614 web: http://www.infinum.hr -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] ATM
Imaš API [1] a postoje i dnevne i tjedni xml dumpovi baze cijele hrvatske, a šaljem i na mailing listu jer će ti tamo drugi koji znaju više dati možda i koji bolji savjet. Valent. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6 2010/8/18 Nikola Kapraljevic nikola.kapralje...@gmail.com: bok! malo sam bacio oko na ovo s ATM-ovima i OSM i imas mozda ideju kako da vidim uopce koliko ima oznacenih bankomata u HR? gledao sam ovdje http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/osm/osmhack.php?lat=44.40lon=16.59name=Croatia+(Hrvatska) pa na ATM list no na zalost nista mi ne pokaze... -- Nikola Kapraljević mail: nikola.kapralje...@gmail.com phone: +385 95 911 5614 web: http://www.infinum.hr -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] oznacavanje uskih ulica
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:28:51 +0200, Ivan Biuklija wrote: IMHO, bi bilo korisnije svima da se ta dionica iscrtava neki drugi način, pa čak i kao highway=track, iscrtkanom linijom, jer s trenutnim stanjem svi će automatski pretpostaviti da se radi o asfaltiranoj cesti cijelim putem, tim više što ima ref i broj ceste, a te automatski djeluju čak i važnije od nerazvrstanih (residential, npr) iako su možda lošiji izbor. Zbog toga ali i drugih razloga već sam par puta pokretao rasprave kako se klasifikacija cesta treba pridržavati u večini slučajeva no ne kao pijan plota već negdje ako postoji dobar razlog tagirati ceste prema važnosti ako su unutar grada ili prema kvaliteti i brzini kojom se njima može proći. Npr u tvom slučaju svakako taj dio ceste treba označiti kao track ako nije asfaltiran bez obzira što spada pod lokalnu cestu, ako je makadam onda svakako stavi track i još dodaj trackgrade, ja tu ne bih nikako stavio tertiary. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] oznacavanje uskih ulica
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:24:51 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: http://www.putovnica.net/galerije-slika/hrvatska/dalmacija/sibenik- slike-galerija/foto-sibenik-gradske-ulice http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Z63soygUB9M/SpmmEdjyc5I/Agk/Q0gVSU- fQpY/s400/Rome_with_no_cars_by_minotauro9.jpg http://www.destinacije.com/Slike/Hrvatska/GradoviiNaselja/ Ulice_Malog_Stona.JPG dok bi highway=pedastrian bile ovakve stvari (obicno zone i sire ulice): http://www.un.int/croatia/Ctg/data/regions/ist/rijeka/korzo.jpg http://www.putovnica.net/files/imagecache/velika/rijeka-korzo-3.jpg http://www.apartmanija.hr/slike/apartments_units/Sunny_Split_5308Split (Peristil).jpg http://img1.photographersdirect.com/img/13697/wm/pd2298200.jpg http://putopisi.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/pusta-pjesacka-zona.jpg Što više razmišljam o tagiranju uskih, srednjih i širokih ulica naših primorskih mjesta sve više mislim da bi trebali skoro svi biti pedestrian. U opisu pedestrian taga stoji kako je to tag za centar grada, za široke ulice koje su prohodne i za aute (zašto je to uopće bitno nije mi jasno a ni drugima koji pitaju istu stvar na talk stranici wikija). Na primjeru jedne od glavnih Rapske ulica (http://free-ri.htnet.hr/ apartments-zora/SlikeRab/Grad/RabSrednjaUlica.jpg) se vidi da nije ni uska ni široka, auto bi mogao proći no tamo nema što raditi. Tu ulicu nikako ne bih označio kao footway već obavezno kao pedestran, no bočne ulice koje se granaju s nje (širine cca 1.5-2m) bih još razmislio kako je pravilnije označiti. Ako gledam funkciju tih ulica imaju skoro istu kao glavna ulica, i u njima se nalaze trgovine, restorani, kafići, jedino je šira od glavne ulice. Ne vidim razlog da se isključivo i samo zbog širine ulice koristi drugi tag, i koja će to širina biti? 250cm je pedestran dok je ulica 249 širine footway? To mi je malo blesavo. Nadam se da razumiješ moju dvojbu. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!
2010/8/18 Marko Dimjasevic ma...@dimjasevic.net: 2010/8/18 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Meni najbolji feature je to što podržava zabrane skretanja (turn restrictions) pa vas routing neće navoditi preko duple crte i na slične loše route tamo gdje se ne smije skrenuti, ako ste naravno u svome mjestu unijeli podatke o zabrani skretanja. Da li vrijede i implicitne zabrane, tipa vozim se cestom i trebam ići na lijevo, no to je jednosmjerna ulica (tako sam označio, ali nisam stavio zabranu skretanja u križanju) i ako uđem u nju idem u nedozvoljenom smjeru? Za jednosmjerne ulice routing je uvijek radio ispravno, svi routing enginei koje sam vidio to odrade korektno te ti ne dozvoljavaju kretanje u suprotnom smjeru osim ako nisi pješak. Do sada je problem bio u manjku podrške za eksplicitne zabrane skretanja. Koliko vidim po Zagrebu se jako malo ima unosa u OSM bazi gdje postoje zabrane skretanja, radi kvalitete podataka trebali bi i to unijeti. Sada kada routing engine podržava idem unositi i ostale zabrane skretanja iako sam ih dosta unio za bitnije lokacije po centru Osijeka. Od nedavno JOSM ima odličan turn restrictions plugin s kojim je dodavanje zabrana skretanja izuzetno lagano, prije toga je bilo malo naporno. Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[Talk-hr] oznacavanje uskih ulica
Ako idete na godišnji pogledajte malo kako su označene ulice u mjestima u kojima boravite. Vidio sam par grešaka koje stranci prave kada označavaju neke ceste, npr. uske pješačke ulice koje ćete naći po skoro svim mjestima na jadranu svakako označavaju (footpath, residential, itd...), dok je pravilno ih označiti s highway=pedestrian -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
