Re: [Talk-in] Virtual Mappy Hours - India

[muzirian]

Thnx a lot setting for this up Naveen, Satya

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 8:12 AM Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Thanks a lot for joining
>
> Video link.
> https://classes.itcksa.com/b/nav-wz6-f7n
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 07:33, satyakam goswami 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan, 2020, 22:01 Nikhil VJ,  wrote:
>>
>>> I liked the chatroom. Seems to be this open source web conferencing
>>> software: https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton
>>>
>>
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>> for there org or community
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Re: [talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

[Andrew Harvey]

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 17:11, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The LPI Imagery has the best resolution. Maxstar was more up to date but
> there was a problem with overuse of it so it has been withdrawn for the
> time being.
>

Did you check out the bushfire imagery from Maxar, it's fairly recent
(mostly 2019), but once they start releasing more post event imagery there
should be fresh 2020 imagery.

I know it doesn't cover the whole of NSW, but it does cover a large swath.

https://cogeoxyz.b-cdn.net/6b6f479fbacd9a42e9e38bc5c0c6889f009beae13b07742ec4a1648f/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg
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Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

[Warin]

On 30/1/20 4:59 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
We just received the CC BY waiver from TfNSW. That includes their GTFS 
feed (transport routes and stops), cycle network data, boat rames 
(those seem more directly useful to OSM).



Wowhoo ...

So much to map... have not even finished the LPI data ...



On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 11:42, Runarsson, Sigurjon 
> wrote:


Hi Sebastian,

Currently we are mostly focusing on A to B trip planning for
public transport modes including walking.  So our main focus atm
is to enhance the data  around interchanges i.e. stations layouts
to support routing indoors as well as outdoors.  Saying that, we
are determined to contribute to all attributes within the osm
database based on internal and external feedback.

Guidelines – I would say that  we need more assistance/guidance
from the osm users like yourself in most instances:)  but  yes we
would contribute in discussion and wiki if needed.

Based on discussion that I have had internally for the last few
days we feel that making the data available in osm by importing
and regularly maintain the data like bus stops is the way to go
rather than telling the users how to map ie naming  a bus stop. 
So based on that we are now actively working on getting approval
for a waiver signed for bus stops in particular so we can
proceed.  If successful, more datasets would follow.

Maybe discussion for later date but I feel that other datasets
like suburbs and address data could be updated (bulk import) into
osm on regular basis as more and more consumers are directly
taking the osm database into their products.  Hopefully we can get
waivers signed and go down that path.

I will keep you posted with any developments on the waiver(s).  In
the meantime please let us know if you have specific questions
related to public transport.

Defiantly interested in regular local meetups.  Unfortunately
cannot make the 30 March.

Regards,

Sigurjon

*From:*Seb Mapping [mailto:mapp...@consebt.de
]
*Sent:* Friday, 15 March 2019 4:14 PM
*To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org
; Runarsson, Sigurjon;
talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

Hi Sigurjon,
Welcome and thanks for reaching out.
I like that you set up the wiki page to tell us how you use OSM.
What I'm wondering is, are there rules, key topics etc TfNSW or
better your group is focusing on in their contributions?

Would you be interested to provide or document in the wiki mapping
examples for e.g. bus stops?

Regards Sebastian
PS: you might be interested in local meet ups, see other thread.

On 14 March 2019 8:53:16 am AEDT, "Runarsson, Sigurjon"
mailto:sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au>> wrote:

Hi all,

My name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW (TfNSW)
Data Services team which is a small but dedicated group which
underpin the many digital products and projects that form part of
TfNSW as a whole. The team are responsible for sourcing, managing
and providing data with an emphasis on quality and efficiency.

The TfNSW Data Services team aim to contribute and help improve
OpenStreetMap, which we started to use in our products like the
TfNSW Trip Planner (https://transportnsw.info/trip#/) from the end
of 2018, through review and updates that are identified as part of
their wide reaching day-to-day activities, feedback from their
extensive network of customer/public facing channels, and other
TfNSW internal stakeholders.

You can find further information on our wiki
pagehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW

Please don’t hesitate to contact me
onsigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au

,https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11or
use our group mailbox and another member of the team will
endeavour to help you:timeta...@transport.nsw.gov.au


Thanks,

Sigurjon

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Re: [talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

[Warin]

On 30/1/20 4:45 pm, Bob Cameron wrote:

This is just a being inquisitive question.

Today I marked paved (was unpaved) route from Laggan to Taralga NSW 
after I drove it. I note that the underlying map (LPI?) actually 
showed the sections paved.



The LPI Base Map does not show road surfaces, it does show road classes.



Am I correct in assuming that there as a first pass project that 
marked paved roads from imagery? if not how did it happen?


The last time one section of that road was tagged for surface was by 
survey in 2010.


Changes since then have been to the road name and adding detail (more 
nodes).




Is there an automation project in place that looks at imagery changes 
(by date) and pushes them for review or similar? (I'd be interested in 
review of rural areas as I travel often)


There doesn't seem to be much info at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia (NSW is particularly old 
- my link is also really slow so I cant easily search)



Are you using JOSM? There is a version that is very slow to show imagery 
.. I am using version 15690 and that seems ok.



The LPI Imagery has the best resolution. Maxstar was more up to date but 
there was a problem with overuse of it so it has been withdrawn for the 
time being.




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Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

[Sigurjon Runarsson]

Very pleased that this has finally come through…hopefully many more to come.



From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2020 4:59 PM
To: Sigurjon Runarsson 
Cc: Seb Mapping ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

We just received the CC BY waiver from TfNSW. That includes their GTFS feed 
(transport routes and stops), cycle network data, boat rames (those seem more 
directly useful to OSM).

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 11:42, Runarsson, Sigurjon 
mailto:sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au>>
 wrote:
Hi Sebastian,

Currently we are mostly focusing on A to B trip planning for public transport 
modes including walking.  So our main focus atm is to enhance the data  around 
interchanges i.e. stations layouts to support routing indoors as well as 
outdoors.  Saying that, we are determined to contribute to all attributes 
within the osm database based on internal and external feedback.

Guidelines – I would say that  we need more assistance/guidance from the osm 
users like yourself in most instances:)  but  yes we would contribute in 
discussion and wiki if needed.
Based on discussion that I have had internally for the last few days we feel 
that making the data available in osm by importing and regularly maintain the 
data  like bus stops is the way to go rather than telling the users how to map 
ie naming  a bus stop.  So based on that we are now actively working on getting 
approval for a waiver signed for bus stops in particular so we can proceed.  If 
successful, more datasets would follow.

Maybe discussion for later date but I feel that other datasets like suburbs and 
address data could be updated (bulk import) into osm on regular basis as more 
and more consumers are directly taking the osm database into their products.  
Hopefully we can get waivers signed and go down that path.

I will keep you posted with any developments on the waiver(s).  In the meantime 
please let us know if you have specific questions related to public transport.


Defiantly interested in regular local meetups.  Unfortunately cannot make the 
30 March.


Regards,
Sigurjon



From: Seb Mapping [mailto:mapp...@consebt.de]
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2019 4:14 PM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Runarsson, 
Sigurjon; talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

Hi Sigurjon,
Welcome and thanks for reaching out.
I like that you set up the wiki page to tell us how you use OSM. What I'm 
wondering is, are there rules, key topics etc TfNSW or better your group is 
focusing on in their contributions?

Would you be interested to provide or document in the wiki mapping examples for 
e.g. bus stops?

Regards Sebastian
PS: you might be interested in local meet ups, see other thread.
On 14 March 2019 8:53:16 am AEDT, "Runarsson, Sigurjon" 
mailto:sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au>>
 wrote:
Hi all,

My name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW (TfNSW) Data Services 
team which is a small but dedicated group which underpin the many digital 
products and projects that form part of TfNSW as a whole. The team are 
responsible for sourcing, managing and providing data with an emphasis on 
quality and efficiency.

The TfNSW Data Services team aim to contribute and help improve OpenStreetMap, 
which we started to use in our products like the TfNSW Trip Planner 
(https://transportnsw.info/trip#/) from the end of 2018, through review and 
updates that are identified as part of their wide reaching day-to-day 
activities, feedback from their extensive network of customer/public facing 
channels, and other TfNSW internal stakeholders.

You can find further information on our wiki page 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW

Please don’t hesitate to contact me on 
sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au,
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11 or use our group mailbox and 
another member of the team will endeavour to help you: 
timeta...@transport.nsw.gov.au


Thanks,

Sigurjon


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Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

[Andrew Harvey]

We just received the CC BY waiver from TfNSW. That includes their GTFS feed
(transport routes and stops), cycle network data, boat rames (those seem
more directly useful to OSM).

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 11:42, Runarsson, Sigurjon <
sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au> wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
>
>
>
> Currently we are mostly focusing on A to B trip planning for public
> transport modes including walking.  So our main focus atm is to enhance the
> data  around interchanges i.e. stations layouts to support routing indoors
> as well as outdoors.  Saying that, we are determined to contribute to all
> attributes within the osm database based on internal and external feedback.
>
>
>
> Guidelines – I would say that  we need more assistance/guidance from the
> osm users like yourself in most instances:)  but  yes we would contribute
> in discussion and wiki if needed.
>
> Based on discussion that I have had internally for the last few days we
> feel that making the data available in osm by importing and regularly
> maintain the data  like bus stops is the way to go rather than telling the
> users how to map ie naming  a bus stop.  So based on that we are now
> actively working on getting approval for a waiver signed for bus stops in
> particular so we can proceed.  If successful, more datasets would follow.
>
>
>
> Maybe discussion for later date but I feel that other datasets like
> suburbs and address data could be updated (bulk import) into osm on regular
> basis as more and more consumers are directly taking the osm database into
> their products.  Hopefully we can get waivers signed and go down that path.
>
>
>
> I will keep you posted with any developments on the waiver(s).  In the
> meantime please let us know if you have specific questions related to
> public transport.
>
>
>
>
>
> Defiantly interested in regular local meetups.  Unfortunately cannot make
> the 30 March.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sigurjon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Seb Mapping [mailto:mapp...@consebt.de]
> *Sent:* Friday, 15 March 2019 4:14 PM
> *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Runarsson, Sigurjon;
> talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)
>
>
>
> Hi Sigurjon,
> Welcome and thanks for reaching out.
> I like that you set up the wiki page to tell us how you use OSM. What I'm
> wondering is, are there rules, key topics etc TfNSW or better your group is
> focusing on in their contributions?
>
> Would you be interested to provide or document in the wiki mapping
> examples for e.g. bus stops?
>
> Regards Sebastian
> PS: you might be interested in local meet ups, see other thread.
>
> On 14 March 2019 8:53:16 am AEDT, "Runarsson, Sigurjon" <
> sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> My name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW (TfNSW) Data
> Services team which is a small but dedicated group which underpin the many
> digital products and projects that form part of TfNSW as a whole. The team
> are responsible for sourcing, managing and providing data with an emphasis
> on quality and efficiency.
>
>
>
> The TfNSW Data Services team aim to contribute and help improve
> OpenStreetMap, which we started to use in our products like the TfNSW Trip
> Planner (https://transportnsw.info/trip#/) from the end of 2018, through
> review and updates that are identified as part of their wide reaching
> day-to-day activities, feedback from their extensive network of
> customer/public facing channels, and other TfNSW internal stakeholders.
>
>
>
> You can find further information on our wiki page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW
>
>
>
> Please don’t hesitate to contact me on
> sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au,
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11 or use our group mailbox
> and another member of the team will endeavour to help you:
> timeta...@transport.nsw.gov.au
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sigurjon
>
>
>
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Re: [talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

[Andrew Harvey]

The Microsoft Open Maps team did add a lot of road surfaces based on
machine learning a little while back. A lot of that was just adding
surface=paved on roads where most people would have assumed by default it
was paved, but still useful to have it explicitly set regardless. Though
you'd need to check the edit history, find where the surface was added and
see if the user was part of the Microsoft Open Maps team to know where it
came from.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 16:46, Bob Cameron  wrote:

> This is just a being inquisitive question.
>
> Today I marked paved (was unpaved) route from Laggan to Taralga NSW
> after I drove it. I note that the underlying map (LPI?) actually showed
> the sections paved.
>
> Am I correct in assuming that there as a first pass project that marked
> paved roads from imagery? if not how did it happen?
>
> Is there an automation project in place that looks at imagery changes
> (by date) and pushes them for review or similar? (I'd be interested in
> review of rural areas as I travel often)
>
> There doesn't seem to be much info at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia (NSW is particularly old -
> my link is also really slow so I cant easily search)
>
> If there is a link to check please advise.
>
> Thanks
>
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[talk-au] OSM automation projects? (Road surface)

[Bob Cameron]

This is just a being inquisitive question.

Today I marked paved (was unpaved) route from Laggan to Taralga NSW 
after I drove it. I note that the underlying map (LPI?) actually showed 
the sections paved.


Am I correct in assuming that there as a first pass project that marked 
paved roads from imagery? if not how did it happen?


Is there an automation project in place that looks at imagery changes 
(by date) and pushes them for review or similar? (I'd be interested in 
review of rural areas as I travel often)


There doesn't seem to be much info at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia (NSW is particularly old - 
my link is also really slow so I cant easily search)


If there is a link to check please advise.

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[Talk-in] OSM India Chapter

[Pradeep Mohandas]

Hello all,

In the Virtual Mappy Hours held yesterday, the OSM Chair Allan Mustard had
suggested that we go ahead with the formation of an Indian chapter and
officially affiliate with the OSM Foundation. This enables us to use the
OSM Trademark officially.

I thought I would start the thread on this list for people interested in
this effort.

I know that there is an active Telegram group going on, but I think putting
things on the mailing list will help archive the effort and discussion that
goes into formation of a Chapter. For future historians of the
movement,this would be something akin to the Constituent Assembly
discussions are to India today.

On the chat yesterday, I had cautioned that India has had previous bitter
experiences with running organisations wherein a Foundation manages the
organisations or groups in various countries. We are seeing the effect of
that in the Wikimedia movement in India. Naveen, also on this group, has
first-hand experience with this as he was involved in the formation of the
Wikimedia India Chapter.

I hope that such previous experiences of the members here will help us
avoid the pitfalls and help to form a much more stronger OSM India Chapter.
In India, the experience has been that the introduction of an organisation
leads to dis-organisation of the community. I hope we can stay in this
together and for the long haul.

Sincerely,
Pradeep

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Re: [talk-ph] Proposal to update the PH resources in the osm-community-index

[Erwin Olario]

When you do, kindly update the wiki page, too: osm.org/wiki/ph

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On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 9:40 AM maning sambale 
wrote:

> Thanks for this pr eugene. I will archive the slack channel when this
> becomes live.
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 04:57 Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> If you have ever edited in OSM using the iD editor, you may have noticed
>> a list of communication channels on the left sidebar after you have saved
>> your edits. This list comes from the osm-community-index:
>> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index
>>
>> I would like to propose some changes to the list for the Philippines:
>>  • Remove Slack since we no longer use this communication channel
>>  • Update the order as follows: Telegram group, talk-ph mailing list
>> (this one), Facebook page
>>  • Update descriptions and add extended descriptions
>>
>> You can see the detailed changes in the following GitHub commit:
>>
>> https://github.com/OSMPH/osm-community-index/commit/4a8a8ee9dc2158bec3c74e76e62214dd56d88988
>>
>> Please do review the changes and provide feedback and suggestions. Once
>> we have consensus for the changes, I will submit a pull request to have the
>> changes integrated into the main index.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Eugene
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Re: [Talk-in] Virtual Mappy Hours - India

[Naveen Francis]

Thanks a lot for joining

Video link.
https://classes.itcksa.com/b/nav-wz6-f7n


On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 07:33, satyakam goswami  wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Jan, 2020, 22:01 Nikhil VJ,  wrote:
>
>> I liked the chatroom. Seems to be this open source web conferencing
>> software: https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton
>>
>
> Yes it is let me know if anyone wants a new setup and support to be done
> for there org or community
>
> Thanks
> -Satya
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[20:50] Welcome to OSM India!For help on using 
BigBlueButton see these (short) http://www.bigbluebutton.org/html5; 
target="_blank">tutorial videos.To join the audio bridge 
click the phone button.  Use a headset to avoid causing background noise for 
others.This server is running http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/; 
target="_blank">BigBlueButton.
[20:56] aaj013 : hi all, myself Asish Abraham Joseph from Kerala
[20:57] Naveen : hello Asish
[20:57] Hima bindu : Hi all, this is Hima bindu from hyderabad
[20:59] pradx : Hello, This is Pradeep from Pune, Maharashtra. User:pradx on 
OSM.
[21:01] Satyakam Goswami : Everyone who are not speaking please mute your mics
[21:07] Satyakam Goswami : people can type there questions here as well
[21:10] pradx : My two paise worth. From the Wikimedia Foundation experience, I 
would say it'd be better to let the Board work on just the Server/getting 
satellite/aerial imagery etc.  and maybe support odd projects that members may 
have and not get into the work of organising chapters or local organisations.
[21:10] aaj013 : Kerala State Govt. is into an initiative called Mapathon 
Keralam 
(https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/state-to-launch-crowd-sourced-mapping-project/article29759392.ece)
[21:13] Gunupati Venkateswarreddy : Hi all,this is venkateswarreddy gunupati 
from Hyderabad
[21:14] aaj013 : I'm trying to convince State Govt agency ICFOSS to facilitate 
SotM India and they are yet to give an update
[21:16] Satyakam Goswami : @aaj013  cool
[21:19] Baranitharan : Hello this is barani tharan From Mozilla Tamilnadu.
[21:19] Upendra : @aaj013 Good work
[21:19] aaj013 : I am working with a startup at Kerala providing GIS services 
majorly based on OSM to state agencies but I see there are no much companies 
from India providing commercial services 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Commercial_OSM_Software_and_Services).
[21:20] Baranitharan : Session is in Live?
[21:20] pradx : yes Barani
[21:23] Baranitharan : Yes now hearing. Thanks
[21:25] Neena : Hello all there is lots of disturbance in the call. Please mute 
ur microphone to avoid the noise :)
[21:27] aaj013 : Different state agencies have pooled spatial data with them 
(Hospitals, Schools, majorly point data) to Kerala Spatial Data Infrastructure 
and right now they are trying to find a way how to import those data into OSM.
[21:30] pradx : Naveen, Satyakam said he had offered help on that front.
[21:30] Satyakam Goswami : pradx yes but that has to come with consensus from 
everyone
[21:31] Hima bindu : I have a question Y dont osm india community members  
start conducting workshops in rural India to educate and encourage more 
contributors.
[21:31] B : seconding it
[21:32] Muhammed Yaseen : Hima bindu 
[21:33] Muhammed Yaseen : & some colleges have geography & cartography courses 
but there is no youth mappers chapter in india
[21:33] pradx : Allan, would having membership in OSM India translate to 
membership in OpenStreetMap Foundation?
[21:34] pradx : Also, will OSM India have any say in election/working of the 
Foundation?
[21:34] Satyakam Goswami : pradx but we do not have OSM india as an org  in 
place to beging with :-)
[21:35] pradx : I know, Satyakam, I mean once we have OSM India.
[21:35] Naveen : chapter have no vote . i guess.
[21:35] kelvin : ya
[21:35] Naveen : only members has say
[21:36] kelvin : u have to join omsf to vote
[21:36] Satyakam Goswami : yup we need to organize , i never thought there is 
so much interest in forming an org
[21:36] Satyakam Goswami : so yes SOTM is a good way to get organized
[21:37] Hima bindu : 
[21:39] pradx : Satyakam, the issue in India has been that once we have 
organisation, everything gets disorganised. :)
[21:39] ARUN G : True
[21:40] pradx : go ahead, Naveen
[21:40] Gunupati Venkateswarreddy : I suggest that we should have a meeting 
every quarter and discuss on possible improvements involving all the states.
[21:41] Satyakam Goswami : pradx i think we have solved this issue  now we know 
what works after creating 3-4 societies and closing them :-(
[21:42] Nikhil : where is the next SOTM?
[21:43] pradx : South Africa
[21:43] pradx : Cape Town
[21:43] Neena : cape town
[21:43] Nikhil : sorry I meant SOTM Asia
[21:43] Hima bindu : Thank you allan for your time
[21:43] Neena : Sri lanka
[21:43] pradx : Sri Lanka
[21:45] Muhammed Yaseen : How was 

Re: [Talk-in] Virtual Mappy Hours - India

[satyakam goswami]

On Wed, 29 Jan, 2020, 22:01 Nikhil VJ,  wrote:

> I liked the chatroom. Seems to be this open source web conferencing
> software: https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton
>

Yes it is let me know if anyone wants a new setup and support to be done
for there org or community

Thanks
-Satya
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Re: [talk-ph] Proposal to update the PH resources in the osm-community-index

[maning sambale]

Thanks for this pr eugene. I will archive the slack channel when this
becomes live.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 04:57 Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> If you have ever edited in OSM using the iD editor, you may have noticed a
> list of communication channels on the left sidebar after you have saved
> your edits. This list comes from the osm-community-index:
> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index
>
> I would like to propose some changes to the list for the Philippines:
>  • Remove Slack since we no longer use this communication channel
>  • Update the order as follows: Telegram group, talk-ph mailing list
> (this one), Facebook page
>  • Update descriptions and add extended descriptions
>
> You can see the detailed changes in the following GitHub commit:
>
> https://github.com/OSMPH/osm-community-index/commit/4a8a8ee9dc2158bec3c74e76e62214dd56d88988
>
> Please do review the changes and provide feedback and suggestions. Once we
> have consensus for the changes, I will submit a pull request to have the
> changes integrated into the main index.
>
> Thanks!
> Eugene
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Re: [Talk-br] Nova proposta de classificação viária

[Andrew Wiseman por (Talk-br)]

I’ve read through the proposal and overall it looks good to me.  I like the 
focus on the functional importance of a road to help determine its 
classification.  This is very similar to what our team does in OSM in other 
parts of the world and I think would fit nicely with other South American 
countries like Argentina and Chile. Thanks!

Tradução automática:

Eu li a proposta e, no geral, parece bom para mim. Gosto do foco na importância 
funcional de uma estrada para ajudar a determinar sua classificação. Isso é 
muito parecido com o que nossa equipe faz no OSM em outras partes do mundo e 
acho que se encaixaria bem com outros países da América do Sul como Argentina e 
Chile. Obrigado!

Andrew

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Re: [Talk-ar] Improvements to water and land use / mejoras a datos de aqua y uso de tierra

[Hernán Javier López]

Hola Andrew, que bueno todo lo que comentas.
Te cuento sobre el comentario de Parques Nacionales que tenemos un grupo
que está mapeando todas las reservas naturales de Argentina. Te paso una
serie de links que estamos usando para organizarnos, más un grupo de
Telegram por si querés unirte

Wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:%C3%81reas_Naturales_Protegidas_de_Argentina
Nueva Planilla con Areas Protegidas
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K30veC4nzu69QG2BVk41j9i0MgEUQajDp6lMovsD3Xw/edit#gid=852851918
(Solo para comparar con la nueva) Anterior Planilla Áreas Naturales
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18u7Va9PrLKgKawsCSAIChRB4KYOa28J9T_m_1iTeiv4/edit?usp=drivesdk
Hashtags General #OSMArgentinaNatural
Hashtag Río Lujan #LanduseRíoLuján

@osm_ar_natural

Saludos
Hernán

El mié., 29 de enero de 2020 15:36, Andrew Wiseman via Talk-ar <
talk-ar@openstreetmap.org> escribió:

> Hello all,
>
> This is Andrew again with Apple. In addition to the road network improvements 
> I messaged about before, we are planning to work on some limited data 
> corrections and improvements to OSM in Argentina around coastal and water 
> features and land use and land cover polygons, such as parks, university and 
> hospital campuses, airports and similar features.
>
> For example, sometimes coastlines and national parks are missing a correct 
> tag, or are digitized inaccurately (maybe due to old low resolution imagery). 
> We will make sure to follow the appropriate OSM and local guidelines. We have 
> been doing a similar project around Africa and in other regions for some time.
>
> Also, thanks to those who contributed to the MapRoulette challenges I posted 
> earlier! I have posted them all here: 
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39170
>
> I wanted to get your feedback and see if you had any suggestions or data 
> resources we could use.
>
> There’s more information on our Github page: 
> https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/34
>
> Thank you,
>
> Andrew
>
> //
>
> Hola a todos,
>
> Este es Andrew con Apple. Además de las mejoras en la red de carreteras
> que envié antes, estamos planeando trabajar en algunas correcciones de
> datos y mejoras limitadas a OSM en Argentina en torno a las
> características costeras y del agua y los polígonos de la cobertura de la
> tierra, como parques, universidades y campus hospitalarios, aeropuertos y
> temas similares.
>
> Por ejemplo, a veces a las costas y los parques nacionales les falta una
> etiqueta correcta, o se digitalizan de manera incorrecta (tal vez debido a
> imágenes antiguas de baja resolución). Nos aseguraremos de seguir las
> pautas apropiados de OSM y locales. Hemos estado haciendo un proyecto
> similar en África y en otras regiones durante algún tiempo.
>
> Además, ¡gracias a quienes contribuyeron a los retos de MapRoulette que
> publiqué anteriormente! Están aquí:
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39170
>
> Quería recibir sus comentarios y ver si tenía alguna sugerencia o recursos
> de datos que pudiéramos utilizar.
>
> Hay más información en nuestra página de Github:
> https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/34
>
> Gracias,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
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> andrew_wise...@apple.com
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Re: [Talk-GB] Presumed Vandalism

[Andy Townsend]

On 29/01/2020 20:32, Neil Matthews wrote:

See edits by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jackgeo123

I've reverted the most obvious problem changesets in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/80281065 .  I've left the 
earlier stuff - if any of that looks wrong add a comment to the 
changeset explaining the problem and drop a mail to the DWG via 
d...@osmfoundation.org .


Best Regards,

Andy




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[Talk-se] Tile-server downtime

[Karl Wettin]

The OpenStreetMap Sweden tile-server is upgraded for the first time in
years.

Please excuse limited downtime for the next few days as the harddrive used
by our PostGIS database will be formatted and moved to a new VM.

Previously rendered tiles will still be served, most consumers of our maps
should not notice anything.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura pietre d'inciampo in Italia (Lorenzo Stucchi)

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ciao,
   historic=monument non vuole dire monumento. È un false friend!
Purtroppo questo
tag viene spesso usato in modo errato.

historic=monument è un oggetto
commemorativo, che è particolarmente
grande (si può andare dentro, camminarci
sopra o attraversarlo) o abbastanza alto,
costruito per ricordare, mostrare rispetto per
una persona o un gruppo di persone o per
commemorare un evento.

Esempi sono l'arco di Costantino, la colonna traina e il monumento a
Vittorio Emanuele a Roma.

Si può usare CheckTheMonuments come
strumento di controllo di qualità per questi
oggetti.

Ciao,

Andrea


Il mer 29 gen 2020, 21:38 matteo soave  ha scritto:

> - Relativamente all'indicazione "name=* - Nome della persona a cui è
> dedicata la pietra d'inciampo", per altri memorial si fa così? Io credo di
> aver sempre messo nomi del tipo "Statua di XYZ", "Monumento a XYZ".
>
> Ciao Lista. Una domanda: che bisogno c'è di mettere prima del nome "statua
> di  ; "monumento di Giuseppe Garibaldi"?
> Che è un monumento non si capisce dal tag historic=monument ? Stessa cosa
> per il memoriale. Al limite io lo metterei nella descrizione:
> description=monumento anche se non mi sembra necessario.
> Il nome è un nome, non l'oggetto a cui si riferisce l'oggetto. Trovo che
> mettere l'oggetto al nome appesantisca inutilmente. Se sbaglio scusate.
> Un caro saluto.
> Matteo
>
> Il giorno mer 29 gen 2020 alle ore 13:03 <
> talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista Talk-it all'indirizzo
>> talk-it@openstreetmap.org
>>
>> Per iscriverti o cancellarti attraverso il web, visita
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
>> oppure, via email, manda un messaggio con oggetto `help' all'indirizzo
>> talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org
>>
>> Puoi contattare la persona che gestisce la lista all'indirizzo
>> talk-it-ow...@openstreetmap.org
>>
>> Se rispondi a questo messaggio, per favore edita la linea dell'oggetto
>> in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest
>> della lista Talk-it..."
>>
>>
>> Argomenti del Giorno:
>>
>>1. Re: Mappatura pietre d'inciampo in Italia (Lorenzo Stucchi)
>>2. Re: Query pesanti (Alessandro Palmas)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:22:28 +
>> From: Lorenzo Stucchi 
>> To: openstreetmap list - italiano 
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura pietre d'inciampo in Italia
>> Message-ID: <706413d7-36ab-4003-815c-5fe57f92c...@outlook.it>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>>
>> Grazie. Alcune domande:
>>
>> Scusa per il ritardo nella risposta.
>>
>>
>> 1) Relativamente all'indicazione "name=* - Nome della persona a cui è
>> dedicata la pietra d'inciampo", per altri memorial si fa così? Io credo di
>> aver sempre messo nomi del tipo "Statua di XYZ", "Monumento a XYZ".
>>
>> Sarebbe più corretto, ma non è riportato in nessun caso [1].
>>
>> 2) Nel caso di più pietre affiancate usiamo nodi diversi o un unico nodo?
>>
>> Sono nodi diversi.
>>
>>
>> 3) Visto che è una sorta di progetto, utilizziamo un hashtag nel gruppo di
>> modifiche?
>>
>> Non ci abbiamo pensato, ma le modifiche sono visibili qui [2]. Pensando
>> (esagerando) che chiunque abbia contribuito l’abbia fatto dopo la nostra
>> proposta.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Lorenzo
>> [1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Qbu
>> [2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Q8d
>>
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Gianluca
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>> >
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:03:12 +0100
>> From: Alessandro Palmas 
>> To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Query pesanti
>> Message-ID: <9cc7b60f-8920-78eb-03e8-a6bd4a510...@wikimedia.it>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Il 27/01/20 23:47, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:
>> >
>> > osmconvert sul file dell'italia oppure ti scarichi i file osm regione
>> > per regione (alla fine è un comunque un ciclo sulle regioni).
>> >
>> Scarichi il pbf, poi osmium (1), osmfilter (2) e osmconvert (3) tutta la
>> vita.
>>
>> Io ogni qualche mese mi scarico il planet (lavoriamo su tutto il globo,
>> ops ... geoide) e da riga di comando estraggo tutto ciò che voglio.
>> Ovviamente puoi scaricarti il pbf dell'Italia e in un minuto estrai
>> l'impossibile.
>>
>> 1) https://osmcode.org/osmium-tool/manual.html
>> 2) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmfilter
>> 3) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert
>>
>> 

Re: [Talk-GB] Presumed Vandalism

[Philip Barnes]

On Wednesday, 29 January 2020, Neil Matthews wrote:
> See edits by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jackgeo123
> 
Hi Neil
It certainly looks like vandalism and needs to be reverted.

However one issue I did spot was there previously, 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1783525689 is unlikely to still be an 
emergency phone. At least the one I saw at Devil's Bridge isn't, they are 
historic these days. But next time I head that way I will take my key just to 
see :)

Phil (trigpoint)

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[talk-ph] Proposal to update the PH resources in the osm-community-index

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello all,

If you have ever edited in OSM using the iD editor, you may have noticed a
list of communication channels on the left sidebar after you have saved
your edits. This list comes from the osm-community-index:
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index

I would like to propose some changes to the list for the Philippines:
 • Remove Slack since we no longer use this communication channel
 • Update the order as follows: Telegram group, talk-ph mailing list (this
one), Facebook page
 • Update descriptions and add extended descriptions

You can see the detailed changes in the following GitHub commit:
https://github.com/OSMPH/osm-community-index/commit/4a8a8ee9dc2158bec3c74e76e62214dd56d88988

Please do review the changes and provide feedback and suggestions. Once we
have consensus for the changes, I will submit a pull request to have the
changes integrated into the main index.

Thanks!
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura pietre d'inciampo in Italia (Lorenzo Stucchi)

[matteo soave]

- Relativamente all'indicazione "name=* - Nome della persona a cui è
dedicata la pietra d'inciampo", per altri memorial si fa così? Io credo di
aver sempre messo nomi del tipo "Statua di XYZ", "Monumento a XYZ".

Ciao Lista. Una domanda: che bisogno c'è di mettere prima del nome "statua
di  ; "monumento di Giuseppe Garibaldi"?
Che è un monumento non si capisce dal tag historic=monument ? Stessa cosa
per il memoriale. Al limite io lo metterei nella descrizione:
description=monumento anche se non mi sembra necessario.
Il nome è un nome, non l'oggetto a cui si riferisce l'oggetto. Trovo che
mettere l'oggetto al nome appesantisca inutilmente. Se sbaglio scusate.
Un caro saluto.
Matteo

Il giorno mer 29 gen 2020 alle ore 13:03 
ha scritto:

> Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista Talk-it all'indirizzo
> talk-it@openstreetmap.org
>
> Per iscriverti o cancellarti attraverso il web, visita
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
> oppure, via email, manda un messaggio con oggetto `help' all'indirizzo
> talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org
>
> Puoi contattare la persona che gestisce la lista all'indirizzo
> talk-it-ow...@openstreetmap.org
>
> Se rispondi a questo messaggio, per favore edita la linea dell'oggetto
> in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest
> della lista Talk-it..."
>
>
> Argomenti del Giorno:
>
>1. Re: Mappatura pietre d'inciampo in Italia (Lorenzo Stucchi)
>2. Re: Query pesanti (Alessandro Palmas)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:22:28 +
> From: Lorenzo Stucchi 
> To: openstreetmap list - italiano 
> Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura pietre d'inciampo in Italia
> Message-ID: <706413d7-36ab-4003-815c-5fe57f92c...@outlook.it>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> Grazie. Alcune domande:
>
> Scusa per il ritardo nella risposta.
>
>
> 1) Relativamente all'indicazione "name=* - Nome della persona a cui è
> dedicata la pietra d'inciampo", per altri memorial si fa così? Io credo di
> aver sempre messo nomi del tipo "Statua di XYZ", "Monumento a XYZ".
>
> Sarebbe più corretto, ma non è riportato in nessun caso [1].
>
> 2) Nel caso di più pietre affiancate usiamo nodi diversi o un unico nodo?
>
> Sono nodi diversi.
>
>
> 3) Visto che è una sorta di progetto, utilizziamo un hashtag nel gruppo di
> modifiche?
>
> Non ci abbiamo pensato, ma le modifiche sono visibili qui [2]. Pensando
> (esagerando) che chiunque abbia contribuito l’abbia fatto dopo la nostra
> proposta.
>
> Ciao,
> Lorenzo
> [1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Qbu
> [2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Q8d
>
>
> Ciao,
> Gianluca
>
>
>
> --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:03:12 +0100
> From: Alessandro Palmas 
> To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Query pesanti
> Message-ID: <9cc7b60f-8920-78eb-03e8-a6bd4a510...@wikimedia.it>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Il 27/01/20 23:47, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:
> >
> > osmconvert sul file dell'italia oppure ti scarichi i file osm regione
> > per regione (alla fine è un comunque un ciclo sulle regioni).
> >
> Scarichi il pbf, poi osmium (1), osmfilter (2) e osmconvert (3) tutta la
> vita.
>
> Io ogni qualche mese mi scarico il planet (lavoriamo su tutto il globo,
> ops ... geoide) e da riga di comando estraggo tutto ciò che voglio.
> Ovviamente puoi scaricarti il pbf dell'Italia e in un minuto estrai
> l'impossibile.
>
> 1) https://osmcode.org/osmium-tool/manual.html
> 2) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmfilter
> 3) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert
>
> Alessandro
>
>
>
> --
>
> Subject: Chiusura del digest
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[Talk-GB] Presumed Vandalism

[Neil Matthews]

See edits by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jackgeo123

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-bd] Highway classification question

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-bd]

Thanks for the response Tasauf, sounds good! I’ll reach out again if we have 
any questions.

Andrew 

Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 | andrew_wise...@apple.com 


> On Jan 22, 2020, at 10:45 PM, Tasauf A Baki Billah  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Andrew,
> Thank you for bringing this important topic on the discussion board. Much 
> appreciated the effort you & your team have been putting on improving 
> openstreetmap data for quite some time.
> 
> I do agree with your observation on this but we need more discussions before 
> reaching a more concrete conclusion. 
> The classification schemes on OSM Bangladesh wiki was drafted in very initial 
> stage considering the standard highway attribution from the governing body of 
> highways in Bangladesh RHD. Though for last couple of years we have been 
> suggesting on trainings & mapathons to consider physical state & use case 
> while putting the road tags. We are drafting another road tag schema for 
> Bangladesh & soon will put it on discussion board. For the time being we are 
> open to any suggestions coming on the way. 
> 
> For the specific change-sets you mentioned me personally would suggest to 
> leave mirpur road as primary Road rather than Trunk. considering the use case 
> specifically in terms of vehicle types on the road. And offcourse that will 
> impact the routing especially if you take Speed limit & ETA under 
> consideration too. 
> 
> Would surely love to discuss more on this and hope more good views will be 
> coming up.
> 
> Cheers!
> Tasauf A Baki Billah (Ribin)
> Executive Director, Bangladesh Open Innovation Lab (BOIL) 
> 
> Director, OpenStreetMap Bangladesh Foundation (OSMBDF )
> Board Member, Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT).  
> Volunteer Coordinator, MissingMaps  
> Member, OpenStreetMap Foundation. 
> 
> 
> Contact: +8801741589653 <>Skype ID: Tasauf A Baki Billah 
>  
> LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/tasauf1980 
> ;
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Tsf1980 
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tasauf.ribin 
> ; 
> Blog: https://tasaufribin.wordpress.com ; 
> https://medium.com/@tasaufabakibillah 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:10 AM Andrew Wiseman via Talk-bd 
> mailto:talk-bd@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> Hello OSM Bangladesh,
> 
> Nice to see a lot of you at SOTM Asia a few months ago! 
> 
> I noticed there are some proposals for highway classification schemes on the 
> OSM Bangladesh wiki page. These proposals define trunk, primary, and 
> secondary criteria entirely on the Roads and Highway Department (RHD) 
> classifications from the government. There’s a few improvements to OSM that I 
> think could be made if more factors are considered, for example: physical 
> characteristics and overall road importance. Here are some examples of what I 
> mean:
> 
>   • The main routes through Dhaka (such as Mirpur Road) do not have RHD 
> classifications but should be trunk or primary because they are very 
> important roads. A member of our team has already made this edit as we think 
> it is better for routing and for the network overall: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78863628 
> 
>   • The N805 becomes R856 near Gopalganj, but the overall road importance 
> does not change when it becomes the R856. I think the trunk classification 
> should continue south to the junction with the N7 here: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/22.74077792475838/89.63465673326755 
>  
> 
> I think using just the RHD classification can make it hard to tell which 
> roads are more important, and which roads are better for routing. Let me know 
> what you think.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
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[osm-ve] Improvements to water and land use / mejoras a datos de aqua y uso de tierra

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-ve]

Hello all,

This is Andrew again with Apple. My team is planning to work on some limited 
data corrections and improvements to OSM in Venezuela around coastal and water 
features and land use and land cover polygons, such as parks, university and 
hospital campuses, airports and similar features.

For example, sometimes coastlines and national parks are missing a correct tag, 
or are digitized inaccurately (maybe due to old low resolution imagery). We 
will make sure to follow the appropriate OSM and local guidelines. We have been 
doing a similar project around Africa and in other regions for some time. 

Also, thanks to those who contributed to the MapRoulette challenges I posted 
earlier! https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ve/2019-July/000741.html

I wanted to get your feedback and see if you had any suggestions or data 
resources we could use. 

There’s more information on our Github page: 
https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/30 

Thank you, 

Andrew 
//

Hola a todos,

Este es Andrew con Apple. Mi equipo están planeando trabajar en algunas 
correcciones de datos y mejoras limitadas a OSM en Venezuela

 en torno a las características costeras y del agua y los polígonos de la 
cobertura de la tierra, como parques, universidades y campus hospitalarios, 
aeropuertos y temas similares.

Por ejemplo, a veces a las costas y los parques nacionales les falta una 
etiqueta correcta, o se digitalizan de manera incorrecta (tal vez debido a 
imágenes antiguas de baja resolución). Nos aseguraremos de seguir las pautas 
apropiados de OSM y locales. Hemos estado haciendo un proyecto similar en 
África y en otras regiones durante algún tiempo.

Además, ¡gracias a quienes contribuyeron a los retos de MapRoulette que 
publiqué anteriormente! 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ve/2019-July/000741.html

Quería recibir sus comentarios y ver si tenía alguna sugerencia o recursos de 
datos que pudiéramos utilizar. 

Hay más información en nuestra página de Github: 
https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/30

Gracias,

Andrew



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Talk sur lecteur de news: news.gmane.org devient news.gmane.io

[deuzeffe]

Le 28/01/2020 à 11:52, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit :



Le 28/01/2020 à 10:13, FR via Talk-fr a écrit :
il n’y a pas mieux qu’un lecteur de news pour suivre une liste de 
discussion.


Hum

Lecteur de news : NNTP ou NNRP
Liste discussion : IMAP/POP/ SMTP

Ce qui importe c'est que ça « threade » correctement.


Je plussoie. D'ailleurs, ça permet de plus ou moins raccrocher aux bons 
wagons les messages qui proviennent d'abonnés en "courrier quotidien 
groupé". Heureusement que TB threade...



Mes 2 cents

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groupes de news plutôt qu'une ML - à dinosaur, dinosaure et demie.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Remplacer ref:ERDF:gdo par ref:FR:Enedis / ref:FR:gdo

[deuzeffe]

Merci à toi :)

Le 29/01/2020 à 18:12, François Lacombe a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

La migration a été faite hier soir, pour les nœuds et chemins uniquement 
sur un peu plus de 2800 objets.
Il reste 2 relations et 2 occurrences dérivées de ref:ERDF:gdo à traiter 
dans les prochaines heures.
Merci de ne plus utiliser ref:ERDF:gdo et de vous reporter exclusivement 
sur ref:FR:gdo à partir de maintenant.
N'hésitez pas à compléter les objets visibles autour de chez vous, 
compléter ce tag a de la valeur pour lier ces points avec d'autres jeux 
de données.


Pas de problèmes à signaler
C'est une bonne expérience à faire pour s'apercevoir des cas d'usage de 
la clé et de prendre les meilleures mesures pour mieux guider les 
contributeurs.
Cela a aussi été l'occasion de reprendre plusieurs objets, convertir des 
nœuds en bâtiments et vice versa.

La qualité globale des données a augmenté normalement, il faut continuer :)

Il va donc s'agir maintenant d'étendre l'utilisation de ref:FR:gdo au 
installations de distribution de gaz.
La documentation va finir d'être mise à jour et des tickets créés vers 
les éditeurs pour améliorer le contrôle qualité.


Bonne fin d'après-midi

François

Le sam. 7 déc. 2019 à 15:57, François Lacombe > a écrit :


Salut à tous,

La motivation de Stéphane sur ref:INSEE m'a motivé pour proposer un
autre changement sur une clé de référence.
Il sera pour ma part moins important en volume concerné. Il
porterait sur le remplacement automatique de ref:ERDF:gdo en
ref:FR:Enedis ou ref:FR:gdo sur 2700 objets.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:ERDF:gdo

La justification est de deux ordres :
- ERDF n'existe plus
- La référence est propre à la France et ne comporte pas FR. Je
trouve que ce serait une bonne chose
=> ref:FR:Enedis pourrait convenir

Nous utilisons ref:ERDF:gdo pour documenter les réseaux électriques
mais le Guide Des Ouvrages est partagé avec les gaziers de GRDF.
Ainsi ref:FR:gdo permettrait aussi de documenter les affleurant gaziers

N'hésitez pas à donner votre avis sur cette proposition, en tenant
compte de la volumétrie d'usage :
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AERDF%3Agdo

Ce peut aussi être l'occasion de nettoyer un peu les données, parce
que beaucoup de ces refs sont aussi dans ref=* et pas dans
ref:ERDF:gdo actuellement.

Bonne après-midi

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[Talk-es] Propuesta para reorganizar página "ES:Cómo mapear un..."

[Lanxana .]

Buenas tardes,

he ido a consultar una duda que tenía sobre el etiquetado y que sabía que
estaba en la wiki "ES:Cómo mapear un...". En un primer momento no la he
encontrado y cuando finalmente he llegado a ella he visto que se ha
redireccionado a otra página titulada "ES:Característcas que generan dudas
en España".

Si bien es cierto que algunas características han despertado debates más o
menos acalorados y que en algunos casos no se ha logrado consenso, hay
muchas otras que sí tienen el consenso de la comunidad y el título de la
página puede llevar a error.

Creo que la función de la página es resolver dudas sobre etiquetados de
elementos propios del territorio español, y algo que se podría añadir es
información sobre si el etiquetado propuesto está consensuado, en debate o
sin acuerdo. En un primer momento se me ocurrió que podríamos crear tres
secciones, pero viendo que ya está seccionada alfabéticamente, otra opción
sería añadir un color de fondo al nombre de la característica, para así
saber de un vistazo en qué estado se encuentra. Por ejemplo, fondo verde =
etiquetado consensuado, fondo neutro = etiquetado propuesto / en debate,
fondo X = etiquetado sin consenso (recogiendo las distintas opciones de
etiquetado). No pongo color en este caso porque la lógica sería el rojo
pero entonces los usuarios con daltonismo tendrían problemas para
interpretar si es verde o rojo. No sé qué colores se podrían usar en web
como contrapunto al verde.

¿Qué opináis? Ahora mismo no sé cómo aplicar los colores de fondo a los
títulos ni cómo deshacer el redireccionamiento de la página para que vuelva
a su estado anterior. Si la propuesta es bien acogida y alguien se puede
ocupar de hacerlo, estaría bien enlazarla a la página para justificar los
cambios. Aunque estoy pensando que tal vez esta propuesta y acuerdo, si lo
hubiera, deberían ir directamente a la página de discusión de la propia
wiki, de cara a futuros editores.

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[Talk-ar] Improvements to water and land use / mejoras a datos de aqua y uso de tierra

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-ar]

Hello all,

This is Andrew again with Apple. In addition to the road network improvements I 
messaged about before, we are planning to work on some limited data corrections 
and improvements to OSM in Argentina around coastal and water features and land 
use and land cover polygons, such as parks, university and hospital campuses, 
airports and similar features.

For example, sometimes coastlines and national parks are missing a correct tag, 
or are digitized inaccurately (maybe due to old low resolution imagery). We 
will make sure to follow the appropriate OSM and local guidelines. We have been 
doing a similar project around Africa and in other regions for some time. 

Also, thanks to those who contributed to the MapRoulette challenges I posted 
earlier! I have posted them all here: 
https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39170

I wanted to get your feedback and see if you had any suggestions or data 
resources we could use. 

There’s more information on our Github page: 
https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/34

Thank you, 

Andrew 
//

Hola a todos,

Este es Andrew con Apple. Además de las mejoras en la red de carreteras que 
envié antes, estamos planeando trabajar en algunas correcciones de datos y 
mejoras limitadas a OSM en Argentina en torno a las características costeras y 
del agua y los polígonos de la cobertura de la tierra, como parques, 
universidades y campus hospitalarios, aeropuertos y temas similares.

Por ejemplo, a veces a las costas y los parques nacionales les falta una 
etiqueta correcta, o se digitalizan de manera incorrecta (tal vez debido a 
imágenes antiguas de baja resolución). Nos aseguraremos de seguir las pautas 
apropiados de OSM y locales. Hemos estado haciendo un proyecto similar en 
África y en otras regiones durante algún tiempo.

Además, ¡gracias a quienes contribuyeron a los retos de MapRoulette que 
publiqué anteriormente! Están aquí: 
https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39170

Quería recibir sus comentarios y ver si tenía alguna sugerencia o recursos de 
datos que pudiéramos utilizar. 

Hay más información en nuestra página de Github: 
https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/34

Gracias,

Andrew



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Re: [Talk-in] Virtual Mappy Hours - India

[Asish Abraham Joseph]

I think we should do this often :)

With Regards,


Asish Abraham Joseph
T: +919495003572
E: asishabrahamjos...@gmail.com


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:01 PM Nikhil VJ  wrote:

> I liked the chatroom. Seems to be this open source web conferencing
> software: https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Nikhil VJ
> https://nikhilvj.co.in
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:15 AM Jinal Foflia 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chetan,
>>
>> Yes, you can find more details here:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jinal Foflia
>> (sent from mobile, excuse typos)
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 11:41 am Chetan H A,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Is this happening?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chetan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:43 AM Jinal Foflia 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Naveen,

 This is amazing. Thank you for sharing this.

 Cheers,
 Jinal Foflia

 On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 9:47 am Naveen Francis, 
 wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> OSM Foundation Chair @allan_mustard will be talking to OSM India
> community.
> Kicking off OSM India Virtual Mappy Hour on Jan 29th, 2020 - 9-10pm
> IST.
> Please Join.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours
>
> Thanks
> naveenpf
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Remplacer ref:ERDF:gdo par ref:FR:Enedis / ref:FR:gdo

[François Lacombe]

Bonjour à tous,

La migration a été faite hier soir, pour les nœuds et chemins uniquement
sur un peu plus de 2800 objets.
Il reste 2 relations et 2 occurrences dérivées de ref:ERDF:gdo à traiter
dans les prochaines heures.
Merci de ne plus utiliser ref:ERDF:gdo et de vous reporter exclusivement
sur ref:FR:gdo à partir de maintenant.
N'hésitez pas à compléter les objets visibles autour de chez vous,
compléter ce tag a de la valeur pour lier ces points avec d'autres jeux de
données.

Pas de problèmes à signaler
C'est une bonne expérience à faire pour s'apercevoir des cas d'usage de la
clé et de prendre les meilleures mesures pour mieux guider les
contributeurs.
Cela a aussi été l'occasion de reprendre plusieurs objets, convertir des
nœuds en bâtiments et vice versa.
La qualité globale des données a augmenté normalement, il faut continuer :)

Il va donc s'agir maintenant d'étendre l'utilisation de ref:FR:gdo au
installations de distribution de gaz.
La documentation va finir d'être mise à jour et des tickets créés vers les
éditeurs pour améliorer le contrôle qualité.

Bonne fin d'après-midi

François

Le sam. 7 déc. 2019 à 15:57, François Lacombe  a
écrit :

> Salut à tous,
>
> La motivation de Stéphane sur ref:INSEE m'a motivé pour proposer un autre
> changement sur une clé de référence.
> Il sera pour ma part moins important en volume concerné. Il porterait sur
> le remplacement automatique de ref:ERDF:gdo en ref:FR:Enedis ou ref:FR:gdo
> sur 2700 objets.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:ERDF:gdo
>
> La justification est de deux ordres :
> - ERDF n'existe plus
> - La référence est propre à la France et ne comporte pas FR. Je trouve que
> ce serait une bonne chose
> => ref:FR:Enedis pourrait convenir
>
> Nous utilisons ref:ERDF:gdo pour documenter les réseaux électriques mais
> le Guide Des Ouvrages est partagé avec les gaziers de GRDF.
> Ainsi ref:FR:gdo permettrait aussi de documenter les affleurant gaziers
>
> N'hésitez pas à donner votre avis sur cette proposition, en tenant compte
> de la volumétrie d'usage :
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AERDF%3Agdo
>
> Ce peut aussi être l'occasion de nettoyer un peu les données, parce que
> beaucoup de ces refs sont aussi dans ref=* et pas dans ref:ERDF:gdo
> actuellement.
>
> Bonne après-midi
>
> François
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Re: [Talk-in] Virtual Mappy Hours - India

[Nikhil VJ]

I liked the chatroom. Seems to be this open source web conferencing
software: https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton

--
Cheers,
Nikhil VJ
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:15 AM Jinal Foflia  wrote:

> Hi Chetan,
>
> Yes, you can find more details here:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours
>
> Cheers,
> Jinal Foflia
> (sent from mobile, excuse typos)
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 11:41 am Chetan H A,  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Is this happening?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chetan
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:43 AM Jinal Foflia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Naveen,
>>>
>>> This is amazing. Thank you for sharing this.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jinal Foflia
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 9:47 am Naveen Francis,  wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 OSM Foundation Chair @allan_mustard will be talking to OSM India
 community.
 Kicking off OSM India Virtual Mappy Hour on Jan 29th, 2020 - 9-10pm IST.
 Please Join.
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours

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Re: [Talk-se] Ortnamnsimport från Lantmäteriets GSD-Terrängkartan

[Grigory Rechistov via Talk-se]

>>> 
Hej!
Jag fortsätter förbättra konflationens algorithm. Nu tar den hänsyn till stora
tätorters gränser. Till exempel, hamnar inga "hamlet"-noder inom tätortsgränser.
Istället blir de förvandlade till "neighbourhood"-noder för att stämma mot den 
rådande klassificeringen.
 
Jag använder de gränser som pangoSE nyligen omnämnt i en annan mejltråd. De 
krävde lite kompletterande bearbetning (t ex att kasta bort Oslos, Åbos m fl
polygoner) och bara runt 135 användbara tätorter fanns i filen, men det visade 
sig möjligt och nyttigt att basera klassificeringen på dem. Jag tänker förbättra
den vidare, bland annat att lägga till fler befintliga tätorter (ev. extrahera 
dem ur OSM-databasen) så att mindre felklassificerade noder kvarstår.
 
results-v21 innehåller nuvarande resultat.
 
En sak till som jag bör göra är att hoppa in i varggropen, det vill säga att
inleda diskussionen på den internationella importlistan. Vet inte när/om jag
vågar göra detta.
 
Ha trevlig dag!
 
Med vänliga hälsningar,
Grigory Rechistov
With best regards,
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Re: [Talk-pt] Porto - Edições antigas de Filipe Neto

[Pedro Lima]

Tive a dar uma vista de olhos e sim, o Porto, está a precisar de uma
revisão.
Visto que a maior parte das áreas são traseiras, penso que as etiquetas
mais indicadas sejam jardins e hortas (existem algumas visíveis)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Tag:landuse%3Dgrass
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Tag:leisure%3Dgarden
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Tag:landuse%3Dallotments

Aberto a sugestões.

Em ter., 28 de jan. de 2020 às 18:50, Filohipo 
escreveu:

> Porto - Edições antigas de Filipe Neto 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Filipe
> Neto
> 
>
> Caros
>  Este mapeador colocou uma serie de áreas agrícolas (farmyards) espalhadas
> pela Porto. Usou esta tag em espaços peatonais públicos ou não. Fui
> alertado pela observação de um Italiano que chamou a atenção para as zonas
> ao redor da Igreja de São Francisco (Palácio da Bolsa).
> Uma revisão ao Porto é necessária
> https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/49700075
> 
>
> Sílvio [aenariel ]
>
> Quote:
> Já corrigi imensas ao longo dos tempos. parece-me ser um caso de "pôr o
> mapa bonito"
> o centro da cidade está uma confusão de micromapping, com muitas tags mal
> utilizadas
> unquote
> Nuno Caldeiraadmin
> Quote
> Reparei nisso quando estive aí ha duas semana. Todos os passeio estão como
> áreas 臘‍♂️
> Map for the rendering
> Terror
> Unquote
>
>
> Cumprimentos
> F
> Nota - Texto e comentários publicados inicialmente em OSMPortugal
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

[Nick Burrett]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 10:37, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> Here's some updates...
>
> *Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly (see
> https://outline.com/kf6j5P)
>
>
All three lanes have been open a while, but the last time I drove it (early
Jan 2020), the speed limit was still 60 or 80.  Some remaining work was
still to be done, like fixing the signposts and opening one of the exits.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

[Donal Hunt]

Here's some updates...

*Colloney-Castlebaldwin (N4)*: latest pictures are available at
https://www.n4realignment.ie/gallery-current-progress (no formal update
since Q2 2019!!). Classification is listed here
.
*Castlebar-Westport (N5)*: Only got funded end of last year so doesn't seem
to be fully active yet. TII status is here
.
*Dungiven-Derry (A6)*: Latest update available at
https://a6d2d.com/progress-update-december-2019/
*Naas Bypass (M7)*: All 3 lanes opened since 02 Aug 2019 allegedly (see
https://outline.com/kf6j5P)

Full listed of TII road projects is here:
https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/projects-and-improvements/
Full list of TII public transport projects is here:
https://www.tii.ie/public-transport/projects-and-improvements/

Where updates are lacking, I've found that emailing the email address on
the relevant website and copying i...@tii.ie ensures accountability is
being highlighted. By emailing TII about the lack of updates posted
publicly also drives demand for them to ensure updates are provided in a
transparent manner (which then gets reflected in future terms / contracts).

Regards

Donal

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 03:46, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> New Ross Bypass - due to open this week. I had a look over the mapping the
> other day. It just needs conversion from highway=construction to highway=*
> Does anyone know the new regional road reference numbers?
>
> Naas Bypass - are the three lanes open on both sides yet?
>
> Does anyone know the status?
> * A5 Dualling
> * Castlebar-Westport
> * Colloney-Castlebaldwin
> * Donabate Bypass
> * Dungiven-Derry
> * Mullingar-Devlin
> * Ratoath Outer Relief Road
> * Sallins Bypass
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Héberger un mirroir ou un bittorrent pour les planet, possible?

[Philippe Verdy]

Traqueurs vides de tous clients connectés dessus, donc pas de
téléchargement du tout. Les deux traqueurs n'annoncent personne (statut
torrent : non annoncé, sur opentracker.org bien que marqué "activé" et
"traqueur principal"; sur le second traqueur sur openbittorrent.com il
l'est même pas pas activé, donc pas annoncé non plus).
Bref des traqueurs où il n'y a pas assez de persistance avec au moins un
client stable pour rétablir les connexions, qui deviennent des traqueurs
morts, 12 heures après.

L'idéal serait d'inclure dans le traqueur au moins comme repli l'URL de
téléchargement sur le site openstreetmap.org (et qu'OSM lui-même devienne
traqueur principal pour que les mises à jour suivent: au moins là le
fichier est disponible, même si c'est avec des limitations de trafic, mais
ça permettrait justement de lever les problèmes de disponibilité. Mais
évidemment ça impose d'installer un traqueur torrent sur les serveurs
d'OSM, et veiller à ce qu'ils soient à jour pour les nouveaux fichiers, et
sinon ne désinscrivent les anciens fichiers que si ces serveurs n'ont plus
la possibilité de les garder (il faudrait un délai pour avoir au moins deux
versions dont la plus récente et celle d'avant; pour ~50Go par fichier
planet, il faut donc ~100Go de stockage plus les quelques Ko pour les deux
fichiers traqueurs .torrent; je ne pense pas que cela nécessite beaucoup
plus d'espace que ce qui est déjà nécessaire et qui tient compte aussi d'un
espace de quelques % gardé libre pour la croissance régulière de la taille
de ces fichiers Planet; les fichiers .torrent eux ne changeront quasiment
pas de taille, mai il en faut un par fichier planet).

C'est ce que font les principales distribs Linux (y compris pour les mises
à jour de paquets pour certaines): au moins une URL normale, d'autres en
miroirs comples par RSYNC, et sinon leur propre traqueur torrent qui
soulage le tout côté serveurs en ajoutant une partie de la bande passante
partagée des clients connectés, et permet de télécharger encore plus vite
depuis plusieurs sources simultanées incluant le site principal et les
miroirs volontaires qui veulent aussi inscrire leurs fichiers sur les mêmes
traqueurs.


Le mar. 28 janv. 2020 à 20:48, Christian Quest  a
écrit :

> J'ai remis au propre le torrent sur https://osm.cquest.org/torrents/
>
> Vous pouvez participer au test en téléchargeant ce fichier planet à
> l'aide du client BitTorrent de votre choix.
>
> Attention... il fait dans les 50Go, donc il faut de la place sur disque ;)
>
> J'ai 3 "seed" actifs:
>
> - 1 depuis ma freebox (avec le bittorrent intégré à celle-ci), connecté
> par fibre
>
> - 1 depuis ma "Tour Nord", connectée sur une autre fibre (OVH)
>
> - 1 depuis une dédibox
>
> Donc théoriquement il y a dans les 2Gbps de bande passante cumulée ;)
>
>
> Si vous pouvez notez le temps de transfert complet et/ou le débit moyen
> ça serait super cool pour se faire une idée de l'efficacité pour
> proposer ce type de distribution dans l'avenir. Indiquez aussi votre
> type de connexion internet et éventuellement le client bittorrent utilisé.
>
> Merci d'avance !
>
>
> --
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Re: [Diversity-talk] [OSM-talk] New Telegram chat for OSM + LGBTQIA*

[Mateusz Konieczny via Diversity-talk]

28 Jan 2020, 23:19 by ricoz@gmail.com:

> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 10:58:01PM +, Alan Mackie wrote:
>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Telegram_accounts ?
>>
>
> thanks, for some reason it was not easy to find.
>
Do you remember search terms that you
tried? Or pages where you looked?

Maybe it would be a good idea to create
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