[Talk-de] Offene Schranken
Hallo, * Jemand hat auf einer Autobahn eine Schranke gemappt (barrier=lift_gate). Vor einem Tunnel gibt es die tatsächlich. Nur ist sie halt normalerweise auf. * Mindestens eine Routingengine (OSRM) verwendet diese Tags tatsächlich, um zu routen. Oder in diesem Fall halt nicht. Das Resultat: Ich werde um den Goldbach-Lärmschutztunnel drumherumgelotst. Sicher nicht das Ziel der Erbauer des Tunnels … Was tun? * nicht mappen * als x-barrier mappen * als TODO mappen * irgendwie Öffnungszeiten angeben? * … und den Routern sagenm sie sollen Schranken mit Öffnungszeiten ignorieren -- -- Matthias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[OSM-talk] [tagging] Graves?
Quick question: How do you tag individual graves (either part of a cemetery, or not)? Several cemeteries around here have graves of historic persons; it'd make sense to tag them, if for no other reason than the fact that that the signs leading to these graves sometimes take longer to figure out than going back home and fetching the GPS does. (Assuming that you're not one of those compulsory mappers who always carries one around. :-P ) -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Kiss her, you fool. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Good example of OSM coverage - Sofija, Bulgaria
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:31:23 +0200, Ralf Zimmermann wrote: I would like to share a good example of OSM coverage with you. Thank you -- that's cool. On the flip side, a large chunk of one of the main roads you'd take to actually _get_there_ is missing. Looking further left, we can see that also some of the new borders within former Yugoslavia are missing. Does anybody have any idea where to get them from? That's a somewhat important feature which really needs to be in our map, IMHO. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Maturity is only a short break in adolescence. -- Jules Feiffer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] pronunciation tag
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:54:44 -0700, SteveC wrote: can you summarise these with examples? See e.g. Wikipedia. That being said, I'd state that while IPA may be harder to type, it's readable and mostly-pronounceable even if you don't know exactly what e.g. an ø stands for. This cannot be said for SAMPA, where the same sound is rendered by the letter 2 (because the French word for that number is pronounced using that vowel sound). Other numbers and non- lowercase ASCII is taken from other European languages, including Russian. Plus you can get IPA from most online dictionaries, which allow you to look up words which sound roughly like the place you're trying to tag, and splice that together. No knowledge of IPA required. (Somebody else can fix it if you're unsure; add a todo=pronunciation tag, which I'm going to add to the TODO proposal right away *g*.) -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Dreams are the touchstones of our characters. -- Henry David Thoreau ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Graves?
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:18:56 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: Given the vast volume of data available on genealogical sites relating to graveyards and their 'occupants' mapping there position is not a particularly silly idea, but I think that it may be taking things a little too far? Heh. I'm not talking about the Smith family, and I agree that this would take things a little bit too far. My use case is there's an obscure sign at the entrance of the cemetery which points to insert historic person's tombstone. Have fun searching the whole 20x200 array of graves for him/her. See you tomorrow. and related cases, where attraction=tourism is justified. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - I had resources so I was able to get help. To all you 'born again' Christians out there, I recommend some lithium; it helps. -- Larry Flynt on his conversion experience, on the Larry King Show ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] short forms of street names
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:17:04 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: This is absolutely the way to do it and it works for the general case, but not if you have a maze of short streets with long names even when you shorten them that way. These do require a method to specify short, and possibly shorter, variations. Annoying example: Alexander-von-Humboldt-Straße = Alexander-von-Humboldt-Str (that's automagic) = Alexander-v.-Humboldt-Str (that too, if you're good) = Alex.-v.-Humboldt-Str = A.-v.-Humboldt-Str = A-v-Humb.-Str = AvHumb-S (probably too much, but ...) Of course I don't recommend that everybody hack all of these into their maps, but if you do notice that the mappers skip too many street names because they don't fit, going back and adding a few short versions is *much* better than a map which omits half the names. Thus, IMHO a multivalued short_name=* attribute would be a Good Thing. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Maybe we can get together and show off to each other sometimes. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] pronunciation tag
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:05:49 +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: why not have a repository of ogg files on the wiki/in a database for all names? 'Cause that takes up a whole lot of disk space, not to mention another huge chunk of bandwidth when somebody wants to actually use the data, which should be the whole point of this exercise. we just record them ourselves. they won't all be the same voice, accent, volume or anything else, Not to mention understandability, while you're driving around in the darkness and while the kids ask, for the umpteenth time, when you'll be there, dammit. I'd really like to hear the street names as pronounced by the people who actually logged them, too -- but, to be useful, that kind of stuff must be consistent. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Maugham's advice: Death is a very dull, dreary affair, and my advice to you is to have nothing whatsoever to do with it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Bad coastline
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:34:52 +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've just noticed that the island of Gran Canaria (N28.0, W15.5) doesn't seem to have a coast line in the Mapnik maps, the island is under water, just like Atlantis. :-P (Osmarender shows it correctly.) What gives? The coastline error checker doesn't see it either. If it isn't in the database, perhaps you can upload it? Umm, why shouldn't it be in the database? I assume it's been there for some time... It's certainly conceivable that it's a sync problem, but not particularly likely: I assume that the window between deleting an old version of a polygon and uploading the new version is not _that_ large. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - One who lives in a wine cellar rarely sees the light of day. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] convert waypoints POIs to OSM in JOSM
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:31:49 +0800, Maning Sambale wrote: Right, any off-the-shelf tool available? gpsbabel should be able to do that. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Is everybody happy? -- Machiavelli ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Database Problems
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:15:32 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: Any projection, when these are fixed? Lunchtime with a bit of luck... Not to quibble, and thanks for getting the stuff uprunning again, but it's always lunchtime *somewhere* on this planet. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- Hunter Thompson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [tagging] Request for Comments: New tag: todo=*
Hello everybody, I request your input on the more to be mapped proto-proposal at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/More_to_be_Mapped This proposal has been dormant for a while, but I think that the feature is desireable, if not important -- how else can somebody find areas that need work? (The answer I know this area well enough to see at a glance what's missing doesn't work very well, IMHO.) -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Happiness isn't having what you want, it's wanting what you have. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Bad coastline
Hello, I've just noticed that the island of Gran Canaria (N28.0, W15.5) doesn't seem to have a coast line in the Mapnik maps, the island is under water, just like Atlantis. :-P (Osmarender shows it correctly.) What gives? The coastline error checker doesn't see it either. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - Majority: That quality that distinguishes a crime from a law. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk