Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
I was proposing to just make sure zipcodes are up to date before the extremly complex street naming idea with prefixes based on similarly named streets relitive locations Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Sent: 10/5/2011 11:57 pm To: calvin.metc...@dot.state.ma.us Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project Calvin, getting back to your original comment, what exactly do you mean use ZIP codes? They are currently tagged with the key addr:postcode. Are you proposing an import or some other way to use the Census ZCTA data? Brad On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) calvin.metc...@state.ma.us wrote: census is bad for places that DON'T have people but especialy when you build your data set off the block layer the shapes will include all the addresses they need to but will miss some strange ones (like theme parks) Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com Sent: 10/5/2011 9:37 pm To: calvin.metc...@dot.state.ma.us Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have you tested this? don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. In Florida, they omit 32830, which has been Walt Disney World's zip code since it opened in 1971. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:39:24 -0700, Paul Norman wrote: In this case the A was part of the house number and 112A had no connection to 112. What I see around here more often is suite numbers (e.g. 101, 102) that are placed in front of the number when written out, but sometimes are placed after on forms. Eg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1052967131 where I mapped it as addr:housenumber=#104-7885 I just use the building's address number in addr:housenumber and write something like 112 West Center Street Suite 700 in addr:full if all the entrances are to the same building and have the same street address but different suite numbers, prefixes, or postfixes. -Nathan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
For secondary house numbers, I use addr:flats as this appears to be at least semi-documented on the wiki. I also use addr:full in this case to write the whole address so it's clear what's going on. We have a number of buildings around here that use Sutie/Apartment/Lot/Unit numbers along with the regular house number to indicate their address. Some hypothetical examples: A hypothetical mobile home: 20 Main Street Lot 5 Derry, NH 03038 addr:housenumber=20 addr:street=Main Street addr:flats=5 addr:full=20 Main Street Lot 5;Derry, NH 03038 addr:postcode=03038 A hypothetical townhouse: 12 Main Street Unit 6 Derry, NH 03038 (on the way for the whole building) addr:housenumber=12 addr:street=Main Street addr:postcode=03038 (on the node for the entrance to a townhouse) addr:housenumber=12 addr:street=Main Street addr:flats=6 addr:full=12 Main Street Lot 6;Derry, NH 03038 Though I haven't actually tagged any apartment buildings yet, I would use addr:flats=1-6 on the node for the entrance to a building with 6 apartments in it. I would also use addr:full to write out the full address. Peter On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:39:24 -0700, Paul Norman wrote: In this case the A was part of the house number and 112A had no connection to 112. What I see around here more often is suite numbers (e.g. 101, 102) that are placed in front of the number when written out, but sometimes are placed after on forms. Eg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1052967131 where I mapped it as addr:housenumber=#104-7885 I just use the building's address number in addr:housenumber and write something like 112 West Center Street Suite 700 in addr:full if all the entrances are to the same building and have the same street address but different suite numbers, prefixes, or postfixes. -Nathan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
For range data there is uncertainty how to increment addresses when an end is such as N82W15855 VALLEY VIEW DR,, MENOMONEE FALLS, WI, 53051-3709, USA 45-558 KAMEHAMEHA HWY STE B3,, KANEOHE, HI, 96744-1944, USA 46-026 A ALALOA ST,, KANEOHE, 96744-3824, USA, HI On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 10/4/2011 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: The purpose of this project is to improve the tagging and better reflect local addressing practice, particularly in areas where the Karlsruhe schema does not fit local practice. This includes Japan and United States, but likely other regions as well. We've made attempts to consolidate a number of addressing discussions and proposals from around the OSM wiki. I must confess that I haven't seen cases in the US that aren't already covered by Karlsruhe. The only thing I can think of would be multi floors and building interiors - which aren't generally mapped in OSM anyway. If the problem is that something isn't documented clearly, that can be addressed. One thing I noticed is that the page links to the proposed Karlsruhe schema rather than the 'approved' page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr I started to look at the US ... Address Data Standard and admit that I'd be blown away at trying to at trying to add any of it to typical OSM address data collection process. I'd probably just end up entering everything with FIXME's and let someone else fix it. g ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Carl Anderson, GISP cander...@spatialfocus.com carl.ander...@vadose.org ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
At 2011-10-04 18:38, Ian Dees wrote: When I use addr:street I put the entire street's name in the field. Breaking apart that street name into pieces is the job of other tags, I would imagine. I proposed, and have widely used addr:street_direction_prefix for the cardinal direction of addr:housenumber along addr:street. I've also used addr:suite when needed. Example 1: when there is one Main Street that runs predominantly N/S, 123 North Main Street is tagged: addr:housenumber=123 addr:street_direction_prefix=N addr:street=Main Street Example 2: When there are two separate Vermont Avenues that run predominantly N/S and parallel to each other, 123 West Vermont Avenue is tagged: addr:housenumber=123 addr:street=West Vermont Avenue In this particular case in Los Angeles, the Vermont Avenue right-of-way was split to put a rail system down the middle, creating a southbound West Vermont Avenue and a northbound East Vermont Avenue. I'd like to see some kind of indicator to show that the second case is correct (i.e. the direction is really part of the street name) instead of just being an instance that hasn't been properly analyzed yet. I had proposed making the addr:street tag contain the full prefix+root+type+suffix and then using addr:street_* tags for the individual components, the presence of any of which would indicate that the name had been properly analyzed. I understand the arguments that this can be complicated to explain/use/enforce. Not sure what to do about that. I don't think it's rocket science. There are days when I think we should expect more. Then again, on days when I can't read 3 professional 300-word news stories without finding 10 mistakes... -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On 10/5/2011 8:46 AM, Carl Anderson wrote: For range data there is uncertainty how to increment addresses when an end is such as N82W15855 VALLEY VIEW DR,, MENOMONEE FALLS, WI, 53051-3709, USA 45-558 KAMEHAMEHA HWY STE B3,, KANEOHE, HI, 96744-1944, USA 46-026 A ALALOA ST,, KANEOHE, 96744-3824, USA, HI At some point, the work required to define a custom address range exceeds the work required to tag each address individually, particularly if it's only used once. If there are one or two dozen custom address incrementing schemes in the US, does it make sense to define rule sets for each one? I haven't skimmed all of the referenced specifications, which may have a hint on incrementing rules that would work in all of the US. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On 10/5/2011 7:51 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: ZIP codes, which in America are not copy righted [sic] Are you sure about this? and (at least in MA) widely available. Are these precise or TIGER's horrible approximations? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
In MA they are good in they are precise don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. (sorry about the spelling phone sucks) Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com Sent: 10/5/2011 8:53 pm To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project On 10/5/2011 7:51 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: ZIP codes, which in America are not copy righted [sic] Are you sure about this? and (at least in MA) widely available. Are these precise or TIGER's horrible approximations? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have you tested this? don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. In Florida, they omit 32830, which has been Walt Disney World's zip code since it opened in 1971. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
Are you sure it is omitted, and not just a tiny dataset ( say 30 ) since I think there are only a few Disney executives residences there? On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have you tested this? don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. In Florida, they omit 32830, which has been Walt Disney World's zip code since it opened in 1971. __**_ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ushttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Dale Puch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
Although there is only 1 edge on the TIGER 2010 edges dataset having zipl = '32830' or zipr = '32830' (TLID = 94368893) there are 539 faces in the TIGER 2010 faces dataset having ZCTA5CE10 = '32830' or ZCTA5CE00 = '32830' You might consider using the ZCTA5CE00 and ZCTZ5CE10 face data in conjunction with the edge data ftp://ftp2.census.gov/geo/pvs/tiger2010st/12_Florida/12095/tl_2010_12095_edges.zip ftp://ftp2.census.gov/geo/pvs/tiger2010st/12_Florida/12095/tl_2010_12095_faces.zip The American Fact Finder reports industry statistics by ZIP code '32830' http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/IBQTable?_bm=y-geo_id=86000US32830-ds_name=EC0744Z5-_lang=en C. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have you tested this? don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. In Florida, they omit 32830, which has been Walt Disney World's zip code since it opened in 1971. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Carl Anderson, GISP cander...@spatialfocus.com carl.ander...@vadose.org ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On 10/5/2011 10:08 PM, Carl Anderson wrote: Although there is only 1 edge on the TIGER 2010 edges dataset having zipl = '32830' or zipr = '32830' (TLID = 94368893) there are 539 faces in the TIGER 2010 faces dataset having ZCTA5CE10 = '32830' or ZCTA5CE00 = '32830' Are these based on roads or areas? To be sure about which zip code a property near the line is in, you would need an area. (Yes, I know the method of assigning zip codes doesn't make areas easy to generate, but the same seems true for segments of roads.) As for 32830 specifically, it may have been added since the 2002 files you linked here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-November/004800.html ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
Census faces are areas. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/5/2011 10:08 PM, Carl Anderson wrote: Although there is only 1 edge on the TIGER 2010 edges dataset having zipl = '32830' or zipr = '32830' (TLID = 94368893) there are 539 faces in the TIGER 2010 faces dataset having ZCTA5CE10 = '32830' or ZCTA5CE00 = '32830' Are these based on roads or areas? To be sure about which zip code a property near the line is in, you would need an area. (Yes, I know the method of assigning zip codes doesn't make areas easy to generate, but the same seems true for segments of roads.) As for 32830 specifically, it may have been added since the 2002 files you linked here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-November/004800.html -- Carl Anderson, GISP cander...@spatialfocus.com carl.ander...@vadose.org ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
Calvin, getting back to your original comment, what exactly do you mean use ZIP codes? They are currently tagged with the key addr:postcode. Are you proposing an import or some other way to use the Census ZCTA data? Brad On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) calvin.metc...@state.ma.us wrote: census is bad for places that DON'T have people but especialy when you build your data set off the block layer the shapes will include all the addresses they need to but will miss some strange ones (like theme parks) Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com Sent: 10/5/2011 9:37 pm To: calvin.metc...@dot.state.ma.us Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have you tested this? don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. In Florida, they omit 32830, which has been Walt Disney World's zip code since it opened in 1971. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement The purpose of this project is to improve the tagging and better reflect local addressing practice, particularly in areas where the Karlsruhe schema does not fit local practice. This includes Japan and United States, but likely other regions as well. We've made attempts to consolidate a number of addressing discussions and proposals from around the OSM wiki. I'd like to invite anyone with an interest in addresses and addressing to lend their talents to the project. Please add to the discussion. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement Can you summarize the project? All the Wiki page says right now is there's a problem. What is your proposed solution? - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
Serge, I don't have canned solutions, but I do think there needs to be greater specificity and flexibility in address tagging. The page links to a relatively new national (US) address standard and how we can adopt a lightweight profile of the standard to gain that flexibility and specificity. HTH, -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:08, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement Can you summarize the project? All the Wiki page says right now is there's a problem. What is your proposed solution? - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
I'm a bit confused about how Karlsruhe doesn't apply to the US. When I'm adding addressing information I usually use the following two tags: addr:street=* addr:housenumber=* Those seem to cover the vast majority of addressing use cases in the US. What am I missing? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Serge, I don't have canned solutions, but I do think there needs to be greater specificity and flexibility in address tagging. The page links to a relatively new national (US) address standard and how we can adopt a lightweight profile of the standard to gain that flexibility and specificity. HTH, -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:08, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement Can you summarize the project? All the Wiki page says right now is there's a problem. What is your proposed solution? - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
When I use addr:street I put the entire street's name in the field. Breaking apart that street name into pieces is the job of other tags, I would imagine. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: When you use addr:street you normally add the street type (e.g. road, street, land, drive, etc.) in the same field. You may also put cardinals in there, too. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:26, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit confused about how Karlsruhe doesn't apply to the US. When I'm adding addressing information I usually use the following two tags: addr:street=* addr:housenumber=* Those seem to cover the vast majority of addressing use cases in the US. What am I missing? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.comwrote: Serge, I don't have canned solutions, but I do think there needs to be greater specificity and flexibility in address tagging. The page links to a relatively new national (US) address standard and how we can adopt a lightweight profile of the standard to gain that flexibility and specificity. HTH, -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:08, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement Can you summarize the project? All the Wiki page says right now is there's a problem. What is your proposed solution? - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On 10/4/2011 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: The purpose of this project is to improve the tagging and better reflect local addressing practice, particularly in areas where the Karlsruhe schema does not fit local practice. This includes Japan and United States, but likely other regions as well. We've made attempts to consolidate a number of addressing discussions and proposals from around the OSM wiki. I must confess that I haven't seen cases in the US that aren't already covered by Karlsruhe. The only thing I can think of would be multi floors and building interiors - which aren't generally mapped in OSM anyway. If the problem is that something isn't documented clearly, that can be addressed. One thing I noticed is that the page links to the proposed Karlsruhe schema rather than the 'approved' page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr I started to look at the US ... Address Data Standard and admit that I'd be blown away at trying to at trying to add any of it to typical OSM address data collection process. I'd probably just end up entering everything with FIXME's and let someone else fix it. g ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have canned solutions, but I do think there needs to be greater specificity and flexibility in address tagging. If there's something wrong with the way we're handling addresses, let's bring it up on this forum. Since this is the talk-us list, is there something US related that you've found doesn't work with the current addressing system? I think this is exactly the right forum to discuss it, with as many eyes as possible. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
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I would put splitting cardinal directions out into their own tag on the same level as breaking them out on streets. I'm sure some people do it (in fact I seem to recall a discussion about that a few months ago?) but I don't plan on making it a priority for myself any time soon. The one address component that I have seen missing is suite. We have a couple of places where businesses share housenumbers and use suite numbers or letters. I'm sure this is not uncommon. Some places write it as 123-A on the outside of the building while others actually say 123 Suite A so it's kind of ambiguous whether to just include it in the housenumber or split it into its own tag. But I've started using an addr:suite tag where it is listed as a suite. Since there are only 300 uses in the database I'm guessing no tools make use of this tag yet. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
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-Original Message- From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] The one address component that I have seen missing is suite. We have a couple of places where businesses share housenumbers and use suite numbers or letters. I'm sure this is not uncommon. Some places write it as 123-A on the outside of the building while others actually say 123 Suite A so it's kind of ambiguous whether to just include it in the housenumber or split it into its own tag. But I've started using an addr:suite tag where it is listed as a suite. Since there are only 300 uses in the database I'm guessing no tools make use of this tag yet. I can't speak for certain about in the US, but on one summer work term I lived in a house with an A suffix, and found out lots about addressing when trying to get the cable installers to come to the right house. In this case the A was part of the house number and 112A had no connection to 112. What I see around here more often is suite numbers (e.g. 101, 102) that are placed in front of the number when written out, but sometimes are placed after on forms. Eg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1052967131 where I mapped it as addr:housenumber=#104-7885 I don't view these types of addresses as a significant problem because OSM is not well-suited for mapping of multi-story buildings with many shops inside. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
