Re: Linthead Stomp - the book

2009-03-14 Thread Mike Hoffmann
Ohhh, the Dixon BrothersThe Intoxicated Rat.  Those recordings would be
awesome to hear!

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Re: on the subject of books...

2009-03-14 Thread MinnesotaMandolin

Well, I wanted to thank folks for the good suggestions. Some of the
advice was so good, and simple, that I feel kind of sheepish for
having not figured it out for myself: memorize the tune. be able to
hum the tune. The humming is key, I think, because if you can sing it,
then it's a song, right?

I think I've been able to learn the notes easily enough that I haven't
given myself enough patience to actually learn the song, if you catch
the difference.

So anyway, I'm anxious to hit the books again. Thanks everyone!

erik

PS--Fax me an email  that's hilarious. I might try to just start
saying that.

On Mar 11, 4:00 pm, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Go high tech grandpa!

 My father-in-law is 80 and he doesn't even know what YouTube is.  The
 only time he's shown any interest in the computer is asking if I can
 fax him an email or show him some of that porn.

 On Mar 11, 3:53 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:



  I've had this problem for years, pounding tunes into my head from books is 
  much like breaking rocks.  I've learned some from books, but most of the 
  tunes I know now have come from jam session.  I've been going to an old 
  time jam for the past couple of years with some very good old fiddlers.  
  Last week one of the old guys came up with a new tune that we all liked.  
  He is in his 80s and still very sharp.  Says he can't learn from books as 
  he doesn't read music.  We asked where he got the tune, which he couldn't 
  remember the name of.  He says, to the surprise of us all.   Off YouTube.

  Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle

  - Original Message -
  From: MinnesotaMandolin eberr...@gmail.com
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:02:28 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: on the subject of books...

  Hey all--

  I'm curious how others handle this dilemma of mine, or if it's even an
  issue. When I practice tunes out of books (my primary books are the
  Phillips vol. 1, O'Neils music of Ireland and the Fiddler's Fakebook)
  I struggle to make the tune sound informal. I have a classical
  background, on guitar and the oboe, and it's hard for me to play off
  of sheet music without sounding like a presentation.

  When I learn a song from a person, I don't have this problem. Same
  with the handful of tunes I've written. But out of the dozens of tunes
  I've worked on out of books, only a few don't sound like a recital
  when I play them. I've actually hit a point where the fiddle tune
  books aren't that much more fun than exercise books, for how stiff
  they can sound under my fingers. I keep coming back to them though,
  because I figure it's good for me to work on 'em anyway. I also got a
  few classical mandolin books so I could read through some sheet music
  and be happy with the formality of my playing.

  I got a hunch the answer to my question is practice, but I wonder if
  anyone has some other tips or suggestions.

  I normally don't think of myself as a stiff player, but most of my
  focus is on creating rhythm parts for the original songs my band does.

  On a related note, how do folks decide to set a tune where all the
  information that might be available about it is its title and the name
  of the fiddler the book's author collected the song from?

  just curious,

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Re: on the subject of books...

2009-03-14 Thread mark . seale
I feel your pain. As a kid, I could devour new songs with sheet music, and I 
was technically proficient. However, as I got older and started expanding my 
listening and learning, I realized that what I was doing technically correct, 
but it wasn't very musical.  My music now is more mature, and more pleasing to 
listen to, even if it isn't always as technically correct as it once was. 

Just my two cents. 

Mark


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From: MinnesotaMandolin eberr...@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:11:34 
To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: on the subject of books...



Well, I wanted to thank folks for the good suggestions. Some of the
advice was so good, and simple, that I feel kind of sheepish for
having not figured it out for myself: memorize the tune. be able to
hum the tune. The humming is key, I think, because if you can sing it,
then it's a song, right?

I think I've been able to learn the notes easily enough that I haven't
given myself enough patience to actually learn the song, if you catch
the difference.

So anyway, I'm anxious to hit the books again. Thanks everyone!

erik

PS--Fax me an email  that's hilarious. I might try to just start
saying that.

On Mar 11, 4:00 pm, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Go high tech grandpa!

 My father-in-law is 80 and he doesn't even know what YouTube is.  The
 only time he's shown any interest in the computer is asking if I can
 fax him an email or show him some of that porn.

 On Mar 11, 3:53 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:



  I've had this problem for years, pounding tunes into my head from books is 
  much like breaking rocks.  I've learned some from books, but most of the 
  tunes I know now have come from jam session.  I've been going to an old 
  time jam for the past couple of years with some very good old fiddlers.  
  Last week one of the old guys came up with a new tune that we all liked.  
  He is in his 80s and still very sharp.  Says he can't learn from books as 
  he doesn't read music.  We asked where he got the tune, which he couldn't 
  remember the name of.  He says, to the surprise of us all.   Off YouTube.

  Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle

  - Original Message -
  From: MinnesotaMandolin eberr...@gmail.com
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:02:28 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: on the subject of books...

  Hey all--

  I'm curious how others handle this dilemma of mine, or if it's even an
  issue. When I practice tunes out of books (my primary books are the
  Phillips vol. 1, O'Neils music of Ireland and the Fiddler's Fakebook)
  I struggle to make the tune sound informal. I have a classical
  background, on guitar and the oboe, and it's hard for me to play off
  of sheet music without sounding like a presentation.

  When I learn a song from a person, I don't have this problem. Same
  with the handful of tunes I've written. But out of the dozens of tunes
  I've worked on out of books, only a few don't sound like a recital
  when I play them. I've actually hit a point where the fiddle tune
  books aren't that much more fun than exercise books, for how stiff
  they can sound under my fingers. I keep coming back to them though,
  because I figure it's good for me to work on 'em anyway. I also got a
  few classical mandolin books so I could read through some sheet music
  and be happy with the formality of my playing.

  I got a hunch the answer to my question is practice, but I wonder if
  anyone has some other tips or suggestions.

  I normally don't think of myself as a stiff player, but most of my
  focus is on creating rhythm parts for the original songs my band does.

  On a related note, how do folks decide to set a tune where all the
  information that might be available about it is its title and the name
  of the fiddler the book's author collected the song from?

  just curious,

  erik- Hide quoted text -

  - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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Skillet Licker Tunes

2009-03-14 Thread Nelson

All,

Does anyone play Rocky Pallet or Ride Old Buck To Water?  I'd like
to have the mandolin or fiddle tab/transcription and I am being lazy
today.

Thanks,
Nelson
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Re: Dawg clip guest staring Compton/Long

2009-03-14 Thread Joseph

Would like to know as well.  Just got an SM81 myself.  Works great.  I
wonder if there's more footage of the Stomp recording session?  There
should be.

No comment from Tater his self.

On Mar 8, 3:29 pm, Mike Romkey mrom...@mac.com wrote:
 Cool! The only thing that would've made it better is more Tater.

 It's interesting to see Dawg recording straight to ... was it quarter-
 inch tape? I would love to hear more about that, too -- what mics were
 used, how the takes were handled, the sort of board Grisman uses, all
 the gnarly details. That sort of how-to info is very useful to those
 of us either recording on our own or in small local studios that have
 never seen a mandolin before.

 I understand the studio is in the basement of his house. That right? I
 have to hand to Mr. Grisman: He covers all the angles, which any
 artist wanting to make a buck has to do.
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Re: Linthead Stomp - the book

2009-03-14 Thread ljtom

I manged to get Charlie Poole's boxed set and noticed on at least one
of the 4 CD's in the set that there would be a recording of a tune as
it would be played in the era by the city folks, then there would be
Poole's version.  So this goes along with what the author of the
Linthead Stop was on about from what the reviewers, etc. say.  I
surely love the old stuff, have to pay nearly twice the amount for
every CD I buy due to the current value of the Australian dollar so I
don't get to buy nearly as much of these old recordings as I want to.
The Charlie Poole set was both fun and instructive here.
 I suppose in our times we look to the past and try to bring it back
but in those days, they were looking  at the now to some degree and
changing it to their style.  Something interesting to ponder.  How to
use the style on current tunes.  Hum I just wonder how someone would
or could do anything to country up or trick up with bluegrass
licks  a rapper tune?? G

On Mar 15, 1:24 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ohhh, the Dixon BrothersThe Intoxicated Rat.  Those recordings would be
 awesome to hear!
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Re: Linthead Stomp - the book

2009-03-14 Thread Robin Gravina
What gets me about the Charlie Poole set when there is a 'straight' version
and a 'country' version, is how the straight version tries to sound
sophisticated, but the country version actually *is *sophisticated: makes
one think about the awful stereotypes about old time country musicians -
same thing about the blues: you can see Lonnie Johnson, or any of the
well-recorded guys and gals, in a fine suit with a fine guitar, but the
tradition wants a blues guy to be a desperate train hopper with a talent
that could only be explained by devilish intervention, rather than loads of
practice and clever ideas

on the rap thing, I'm starting to realise that between for example Rakim and
Monroe there is not much distance in intention: both are going fast and
making rythmic variations in every single thing they do. I understand that
this may not be a majority opinion, but what can you do.

Robin


On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:46 PM, lj...@intas.net.au wrote:


 I manged to get Charlie Poole's boxed set and noticed on at least one
 of the 4 CD's in the set that there would be a recording of a tune as
 it would be played in the era by the city folks, then there would be
 Poole's version.  So this goes along with what the author of the
 Linthead Stop was on about from what the reviewers, etc. say.  I
 surely love the old stuff, have to pay nearly twice the amount for
 every CD I buy due to the current value of the Australian dollar so I
 don't get to buy nearly as much of these old recordings as I want to.
 The Charlie Poole set was both fun and instructive here.
  I suppose in our times we look to the past and try to bring it back
 but in those days, they were looking  at the now to some degree and
 changing it to their style.  Something interesting to ponder.  How to
 use the style on current tunes.  Hum I just wonder how someone would
 or could do anything to country up or trick up with bluegrass
 licks  a rapper tune?? G

 On Mar 15, 1:24 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ohhh, the Dixon BrothersThe Intoxicated Rat.  Those recordings would
 be
  awesome to hear!
 


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