I feel your pain. As a kid, I could devour new songs with sheet music, and I 
was technically proficient. However, as I got older and started expanding my 
listening and learning, I realized that what I was doing technically correct, 
but it wasn't very musical.  My music now is more mature, and more pleasing to 
listen to, even if it isn't always as technically correct as it once was. 

Just my two cents. 

Mark


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-----Original Message-----
From: MinnesotaMandolin <[email protected]>

Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:11:34 
To: Taterbugmando<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: on the subject of books...



Well, I wanted to thank folks for the good suggestions. Some of the
advice was so good, and simple, that I feel kind of sheepish for
having not figured it out for myself: memorize the tune. be able to
hum the tune. The humming is key, I think, because if you can sing it,
then it's a song, right?

I think I've been able to learn the notes easily enough that I haven't
given myself enough patience to actually learn the song, if you catch
the difference.

So anyway, I'm anxious to "hit the books" again. Thanks everyone!

erik

PS--"Fax me an email"  that's hilarious. I might try to just start
saying that.

On Mar 11, 4:00 pm, Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Go high tech grandpa!
>
> My father-in-law is 80 and he doesn't even know what YouTube is.  The
> only time he's shown any interest in the computer is asking if I can
> "fax him an email" or "show him some of that porn".
>
> On Mar 11, 3:53 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've had this problem for years, pounding tunes into my head from books is 
> > much like breaking rocks.  I've learned some from books, but most of the 
> > tunes I know now have come from jam session.  I've been going to an old 
> > time jam for the past couple of years with some very good old fiddlers.  
> > Last week one of the old guys came up with a new tune that we all liked.  
> > He is in his 80s and still very sharp.  Says he can't learn from books as 
> > he doesn't read music.  We asked where he got the tune, which he couldn't 
> > remember the name of.  He says, to the surprise of us all.   "Off YouTube".
>
> > Clyde Clevenger
> > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > Salem, Oregon
> > Old Circle
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MinnesotaMandolin" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Taterbugmando" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:02:28 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: on the subject of books...
>
> > Hey all--
>
> > I'm curious how others handle this dilemma of mine, or if it's even an
> > issue. When I practice tunes out of books (my primary books are the
> > Phillips vol. 1, O'Neils music of Ireland and the Fiddler's Fakebook)
> > I struggle to make the tune sound "informal." I have a classical
> > background, on guitar and the oboe, and it's hard for me to play off
> > of sheet music without sounding like a presentation.
>
> > When I learn a song from a person, I don't have this problem. Same
> > with the handful of tunes I've written. But out of the dozens of tunes
> > I've worked on out of books, only a few don't sound like a recital
> > when I play them. I've actually hit a point where the fiddle tune
> > books aren't that much more fun than exercise books, for how stiff
> > they can sound under my fingers. I keep coming back to them though,
> > because I figure it's good for me to work on 'em anyway. I also got a
> > few classical mandolin books so I could read through some sheet music
> > and be happy with the "formality" of my playing.
>
> > I got a hunch the answer to my question is "practice," but I wonder if
> > anyone has some other tips or suggestions.
>
> > I normally don't think of myself as a stiff player, but most of my
> > focus is on creating rhythm parts for the original songs my band does.
>
> > On a related note, how do folks decide to "set" a tune where all the
> > information that might be available about it is its title and the name
> > of the fiddler the book's author collected the song from?
>
> > just curious,
>
> > erik- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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