Well, I wanted to thank folks for the good suggestions. Some of the
advice was so good, and simple, that I feel kind of sheepish for
having not figured it out for myself: memorize the tune. be able to
hum the tune. The humming is key, I think, because if you can sing it,
then it's a song, right?

I think I've been able to learn the notes easily enough that I haven't
given myself enough patience to actually learn the song, if you catch
the difference.

So anyway, I'm anxious to "hit the books" again. Thanks everyone!

erik

PS--"Fax me an email"  that's hilarious. I might try to just start
saying that.

On Mar 11, 4:00 pm, Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Go high tech grandpa!
>
> My father-in-law is 80 and he doesn't even know what YouTube is.  The
> only time he's shown any interest in the computer is asking if I can
> "fax him an email" or "show him some of that porn".
>
> On Mar 11, 3:53 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've had this problem for years, pounding tunes into my head from books is 
> > much like breaking rocks.  I've learned some from books, but most of the 
> > tunes I know now have come from jam session.  I've been going to an old 
> > time jam for the past couple of years with some very good old fiddlers.  
> > Last week one of the old guys came up with a new tune that we all liked.  
> > He is in his 80s and still very sharp.  Says he can't learn from books as 
> > he doesn't read music.  We asked where he got the tune, which he couldn't 
> > remember the name of.  He says, to the surprise of us all.   "Off YouTube".
>
> > Clyde Clevenger
> > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > Salem, Oregon
> > Old Circle
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MinnesotaMandolin" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Taterbugmando" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:02:28 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: on the subject of books...
>
> > Hey all--
>
> > I'm curious how others handle this dilemma of mine, or if it's even an
> > issue. When I practice tunes out of books (my primary books are the
> > Phillips vol. 1, O'Neils music of Ireland and the Fiddler's Fakebook)
> > I struggle to make the tune sound "informal." I have a classical
> > background, on guitar and the oboe, and it's hard for me to play off
> > of sheet music without sounding like a presentation.
>
> > When I learn a song from a person, I don't have this problem. Same
> > with the handful of tunes I've written. But out of the dozens of tunes
> > I've worked on out of books, only a few don't sound like a recital
> > when I play them. I've actually hit a point where the fiddle tune
> > books aren't that much more fun than exercise books, for how stiff
> > they can sound under my fingers. I keep coming back to them though,
> > because I figure it's good for me to work on 'em anyway. I also got a
> > few classical mandolin books so I could read through some sheet music
> > and be happy with the "formality" of my playing.
>
> > I got a hunch the answer to my question is "practice," but I wonder if
> > anyone has some other tips or suggestions.
>
> > I normally don't think of myself as a stiff player, but most of my
> > focus is on creating rhythm parts for the original songs my band does.
>
> > On a related note, how do folks decide to "set" a tune where all the
> > information that might be available about it is its title and the name
> > of the fiddler the book's author collected the song from?
>
> > just curious,
>
> > erik- Hide quoted text -
>
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