Re: No images appearing in HTML messages
Hello Silviu, On Monday, August 06, 2001 at 1:50:55 AM you wrote (at least in part): SC well the image included like this: SC body background=some image SC will not show up in this beta, but the developers say this was SC fixed for the next one. SC On the other hand, images inserted like this: SC img src=image file SC will be displayed. But they will be only displayed _IF_ they're sent _WITHIN_ the e-mail (attached and referred in the e-mail body). img src=http:/... wouldn't be display, and to cite a german (Berlin) politician: That is good as is. :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Laughter is the shortest distance between two people. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Attaching .css file
hi Krzysztof, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but it's impossible do attach a .css file to a message. yes, it has been discussed before and even reported as a bug AFAIK. it was already a problem in 1.53 where .css (and in my case .xml) files were not treated as attachments, but became part of the message text !! there was no way to save them except cutting/pasting through an editor ... -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No images appearing in HTML messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter! On Monday, August 06, 2001 at 12:26:14 PM you wrote: img src=http:/... wouldn't be display, and to cite a german (Berlin) politician: That is good as is. :-) Yip; but I'd rather stay hooked on women ... - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/4 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Better be mediocre - remember, they shot John, not Ringo. (Derek Leveret) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO25nzfTo1oA8g8dLEQLgQQCdH4gJ0Aan+2cV2rMwdxL+Y8xz9qsAoL/l 40joXDwgibVdFvBDccaOw7GT =+34T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From-prefix Test (was: Re: OT: GMX)
Hello Avenarius, On Friday, August 03, 2001 at 7:24:01 AM you wrote (at least in part): A So, Yahoo and Kiwwi passed this test, while GMX, Host, and the mail A server I actually pay for failed it. I'm sorry to tell you: they don't failed :-) They did something that you (and maybe many others) don't like and don't really understand, but what they did was something to prevent you from getting splitted messages. It's not really nice, even because it destroys a PGP-Signature, but it's sometimes necessary :-( What the final mail server does is storing the message in a MBOX. The mbox-format is well documented and it tells: A new mail in the mbox-file begins with a line '^From email@domain Date_in_format_DOW_MONTH_DOM_TIME_YEAR$' where '^' is a 'begin of line' and '$' is the 'end of line' in RegExp-Signs. As an e-mail can be only a name, not including the '@' the mailservers that 'failed' in your opinion added the quotation mark in front of the 'From' to prevent from reading the mbox-file and recognize two mails instead of one. Mailservers that do not insert that '' store mails in a different format than mbox, maybe 'Maildir' or even Database and do know where a new mail starts form the kind of data storing, in other word: new dataset equals new mail, the there's no space for a mistake at the 'From' line. That's _one_ of the reasons why I prefer Maildir-format over MBOX and setup all mailservers I'm responsible for with Maildir (as qmail supports it), but nevertheless as this is something from _very_ old *nix times the insert of a quotation sign is not a failure, as annyoing it is. To Dierk: you wrote: DH Not confirmed. I do have it sometimes, but not always. So it cannot be DH GMX. If GMX is the last mailserver in every mail you inspected, the only reason why it sometimes was there and other tiems not could be: they're using different storage types. AFAIK GMX has more than one mail server and the only thing I can imagine of is several of them use MBOX (so you have the '') and others don't so there's no need of inserting it. As all servers are hidden behind a load balancer one can not know or recall which server _exactly_ stored the mail, so we cannot examine this finally, but that's the only way I can try to explain why it does happen to some mails but not all, if _all_ of them are finally delivered to GMX. Ciao Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Yes, this is a strange craft; a strange history, too, and strange folks on board. But - nothing more. (Herman Melville) -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No images appearing in HTML messages
Hello Dierk, On Monday, August 06, 2001 at 12:47:45 PM you wrote (at least in part): DH Yip; but I'd rather stay hooked on women ... That's not the point here ... me too *GGG* -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) You live and learn. Or you don't live long. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From-prefix Test (was: Re: OT: GMX)
Hello Peter, On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:48:43 +0200GMT (06/08/2001, 18:48 +0800GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP It's not really nice, even because it destroys a PGP-Signature, but it's PP sometimes necessary :-( No. If it were necessary, then all of us should receive the additional in front of From regardless of the ISP. Those who need to add the use outdated software. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53o under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From-prefix Test
Hei, Thomas F wrote: No. If it were necessary, then all of us should receive the additional in front of From regardless of the ISP. Agree totally with you. If there is a technical solution (and there obviously is, as gmx uses qmail), and the problem still exists, then it's an error from the user's point of view. Changing the body of a mail is a total NONONO, and all my other providers manage to leave the body as I send it. Those who need to add the use outdated software. ;-) Yes, and gmx even loses money with that, because of their reliability in the last view months I wanted to subscribe to their service. Not because I need the additional features, just to support them. BTW: In my tests the is _always_ inserted when sending mails via gmx to gmx. And: The problem is not a 'artificial' one, it occurs on every forwarded message. -- Regards, Günther German TB! faq, and cut.exe - delete ads in mails http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/ TheBat! 1.53o, Windows NT 5.0 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From-prefix Test (was: Re: OT: GMX)
Hello Thomas, On Monday, August 06, 2001 at 1:03:46 PM you wrote (at least in part): TF No. If it were necessary, then all of us should receive the additional in front of From regardless of the ISP. As I tried to explain: software that's only capable of storing in mbox-format needs it, other software (if configured to store different than mbox) don't. So it's not an 'All or Nobody'-task. TF Those who need to add the use outdated software. ;-) Some don't call it outdated, but 'better performance', 'stable', 'well known', 'secure', 'well documented', 'easy to configure/handle', 'easy/save to backup/restore', 'protection of investments', 'save for future, readable also in 100 years (not proprietary and a dead horse in 2 year [like some document formats ?!?])' ... I don't want to discuss if they're all 's bad' to use 'so called outdated' software or if it does make any sense, I don't want to be 'the bad boy' that defends them for what they're doing, but I know 'bout the technical backgrounds and know _I_ can't call is a bug, wrong or 'failed test' because I know it's needed in their system. I, for myself as a system administrator, try to avoid this problem by using other software, that fit's our need too, but if there were any problems with this software, like 'to slow', 'to heavy traffic to be handled by it' I'd switch, even if it means to insert the quotation sign in the mail, because it's quite 100 times better the user gets it's mail with a quotation where it's not expected/written by original author, that he/she NEVER get's his/her mail because the system was not able to able it for an absolute overload. Just my 0.02 , and now you're allowed to execute my for defending the software, although I said I don't want to :-))) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my father did, not screaming in terror like his passengers. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No images appearing in HTML messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 06, 2001, 1:26:14 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: img src=http:/... wouldn't be display And don't you just love that ? ;) - -- A jury consists of twelve persons chosen to decide who has the better lawyer. - -Robert Frost __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.1 Comment: Member of the PGP-Basics, Encryption Help Team iQA/AwUBO26jjPFgRjY97rftEQIixgCgsjcAFXfUTP/7hEGHi2WV+jdKGBsAnjyG CcHOtdq/HhIVoRCLlvCcofxp =hXJA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with jpg error with pointer in my folder = thought to be htmlrelated
I have been having trouble for some time with some of the emails from Slate Magazine. I get the jpg error, and when I hit ok, a few of the messages display correctly, but most do the cascading violation message until I kill TB! in the close program dialogue. Until today, when TB! reopens, since the pointer in the all the folders remembers where it was at on the last clean exit, the folder where Slate messages go opens fine, pointing to some relatively correctly behaving message. Well, this morning, the pointer is on a message which crashes TB! as soon as one opens the folder. Is there a way to get that pointer to highlite a different message, or delete the offending message without opening the folder, or do I have to wait for the next Beta to finally be released and hope that bug if fixed? And isn't a new beta about due?? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From-prefix Test (was: Re: OT: GMX)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:32:43 +0200 GMT (06/08/2001, 19:32 +0800 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF Those who need to add the use outdated software. ;-) PP Some don't call it outdated, but 'better performance', 'stable', 'well known', PP 'secure', 'well documented', 'easy to configure/handle', 'easy/save to PP backup/restore', 'protection of investments', 'save for future, readable also PP in 100 years (not proprietary and a dead horse in 2 year [like some document PP formats ?!?])' ... You didn't use to work for Robotron, did you? (Just kidding.) PP I don't want to discuss if they're all 's bad' to use 'so called outdated' PP software or if it does make any sense, I don't want to be 'the bad boy' that PP defends them for what they're doing, but I know 'bout the technical PP backgrounds and know _I_ can't call is a bug, wrong or 'failed test' because I PP know it's needed in their system. Yes, and I know why Fortran needs six spaces at the beginning of every line of code (had to do with the IBM hardware at the time), but that doesn't mean it's acceptable for any computer language nowadays any more. Fortran also had it's heydays, but they're gone. Same for the at the beginning of a From line. PP Just my 0.02 , and now you're allowed to execute my for defending the PP software, although I said I don't want to :-))) In today's world, software is outdated very quickly. I'm not trying to execute you, but I can tell you what is the latest today is most likely completely outdated in 2 years. Others say, in half a year. Never mind whether you know the technical details why the earlier version did something (or required you to do something) undesirable. Let's not start tio defend the shortcomings of early computing days, shall we? ;-) - -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I'm not rushing into being in love. I'm finding fourth grade hard enough. (Regina, 10) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using a Celeron 366 MHz, 128MB RAM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: Key ID: 0x79493AEC iQA/AwUBO25Ldmkcopp5STrsEQJS5ACcDQrdy2njkplF1975vocw5K+kAzcAoLhd KfqEXNEBLxutuBtIyuh7J60E =LJKI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with jpg error with pointer in my folder = thought to be html related
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dwight A Corrin, You wrote on 8/6/2001, 5:16 PM: Dwight I have been having trouble for some time with some of the Dwight emails from Slate Magazine. Dwight Is there a way to get that pointer to highlite a different Dwight message, or delete the offending message without opening the Dwight folder, or do I have to wait for the next Beta to finally be Dwight released and hope that bug if fixed? If hope is not enough, I suggest that you forward an issue of that newsletter to Diman [EMAIL PROTECTED], and only then you can be sure it will be fixed in the next beta :) - -- Cheers, SyP Pluto Neptune Uranus Saturn Jupiter Mars Earth Venus Mercury Sun . o o o O . . . ./\ ^ \/ -- You are here -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 5 iQA/AwUBO27HQtkgnrcJiuwTEQJetACgkUDuVoaba6kIsyw1UR5MkTToJsIAoLGH +vepPSGtKDvPTlRVruc4jCFL =RsUK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
