Re: Registration question
Hello Neal, It was foretold that on Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 4:56 PM, Neal [N] would type: N Sorry if old topic, This is a touchy subject, so I'll only comment on: N but couldn't see this subject in the archives. Hmm, I found a number of threads very quickly: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29569.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29561.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29498.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29486.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29466.html Those are only the first messages of the threads and I think I probably missed a few. They were all on the first page of the archive. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bayesit 0.4b - Ad Fontes!
Hello, Samson. You wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S maybe there is a syntax error in install.bat: S copy resbayes.en.dll %APPDATA\Bayesit nul S shouldn't %APPDATA be %APPDATA% Oh, dumb... Exactly! -- Sincerely, Alexey. Using TB 2.0b3 on WinXP Pro SP1 (2600), spelling by ORFO2002 (CSAPI) ..with Kaspersky Antivirus Plugin (ver 3.5 Gold) antispam filter BayesIt! 0.3b mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bayesit 0.4b - Ad Fontes!
Hello, Danger. You wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] D Sorry Alrxey The .bat didn't work for me and when i add the dll is D says to check my localresources.dll I'm sorry. A small stupid typerr in .bat! It must be %APPDATA% instead of %APPDATA here: copy resbayes.en.dll %APPDATA\Bayesit ^ -- Sincerely, Alexey. Using TB 2.0b3 on WinXP Pro SP1 (2600), spelling by ORFO2002 (CSAPI) ..with Kaspersky Antivirus Plugin (ver 3.5 Gold) antispam filter BayesIt! 0.4b mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration question and more...
This another example of the nerd mentality at RitLabs I love TheBat!, but suffer with the inability to have all messages stored in the same directory if I so wish. -- This is a snap in Netscape 4.7x and Mozilla, and it works in both directions I seem to remember a promise from Ritlabs that 2.xx would support this feature. So now I am stuck with an unregistered copy if I go past 2.0 Beta 1 without any explanation? Ritlabs needs to become customer friendly and the registrations would explode. At this time Thebat! is not a user friendly program. ? Why can't I just clear the trash ?? Neal Januk Aggarwal wrote: Hello Neal, It was foretold that on Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 4:56 PM, Neal [N] would type: N Sorry if old topic, This is a touchy subject, so I'll only comment on: N but couldn't see this subject in the archives. Hmm, I found a number of threads very quickly: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29569.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29561.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29498.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29486.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29466.html Those are only the first messages of the threads and I think I probably missed a few. They were all on the first page of the archive. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration question and more...
Hello Neal, On Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 7:01 PM, Neal heard voices say: This another example of the nerd mentality at RitLabs Um, what is the nerd mentality? - If you're talking about the registration policy, I won't discuss that. - If you found my reply rude or curt, then I apologize, but this subject has been beaten to a pulp and then some. - If you think I work for RITLabs, please be advised that except for a couple of people on this list, nobody can speak officially for RITLabs. I love TheBat!, but suffer with the inability to have all messages stored in the same directory if I so wish. Why not? Use a simple outgoing filter to filter your mail to the Inbox and you'll have exactly what you want. That's what I do for any mail that doesn't have an obvious home in my folder structure. I seem to remember a promise from Ritlabs that 2.xx would support this feature. I don't understand what feature is supposedly missing, but we are only on version 2.0 beta 3, so they could have a number of releases before the v2.xx promise is broken. So now I am stuck with an unregistered copy if I go past 2.0 Beta 1 without any explanation? The best post I've seen to date (granted, I haven't read them all) is: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29632.html And based on the content of that message, I'm not replying again to this thread. If you want to discuss your concern about that missing feature, please start a new thread. At this time Thebat! is not a user friendly program. I disagree, but then this topic has been rehashed a million times on TBUDL, so again I won't comment on this point. I have not participated on TBUDL for quite some time, so I can't say when this discussion has last been heard, but I'm sure a generous soul could help us locate a thread or two in the archive. ? Why can't I just clear the trash ?? From the Beta 3 release notes: ,-- [ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tb200b03.txt ] | [-] The Empty Trash folder on Exit was ignored `-- Or is there some other problem? Again, answer this question in a new thread. The subject on this one was moved to TBOT by the moderators. See link above for details. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions/problems with 1.63 and 2.0
Hello Robert, On Friday, August 22, 2003 at 07:06 GMT -0400, Robert Lansdale pressed random keys until the following was produced: snip Is there a way to have files deleted from the Inbox without having them go to the Trash folder? Your best bet is to create a manual filter with the Delete Message action. You have the option of assigning a Hot Key to the filter to make life even easier. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayesit 0.4b - Ad Fontes!
Hello Danger! On Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 11:02:55 PM you wrote: Yes I have. One point that could always be snipped is the greeting line. Another point is to think about what you want to say and what may actually be of interest for your statement. You quoted nearly everything Alexey wrote to tell him what your system/program wants from you. I myself don't archive the messages from this list for more than two days but nonetheless can look up something on the Net in the Archives. With TB's threading facility you don't need to include everything that had been said before as it is easily found. Don't get me wrong, my question about trouting was just a friendly reminder not a reprimand. Just yesterday I found that lots of people on Usenet seem to have lost any sense of what to snip and what to quote; you can actually get messages of over a hundred lines with only three letters at the top (ACK). One guy actually asked for some RFC or web site detailing what to quote and what not. My answer to that: Think about what you want and what you need. If you've for once snipped too much you can always revisit the topic and quote more upon request. PS: To complicate matters slightly, when you think about what to cut, don't change the original meaning (in your favour, mostly). A matter important if you are right in the middle of a flame war - or you are using e-mail for scientific or legal matter. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 There *is* love at first sight. Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Test ... sorry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:31:37 AM (GMT -05:00) RE: Test ... sorry Greetings, Sorry. Testing my filters in TB v2b3. Thanks. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Kiss me twice. I'm schizophrenic. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP0i+dLwi09Hs/j+VEQKreACeMDmmpmvMUW6Ylc83dJbbk7oAiAYAn1by 0KPpNwxZaZCyvjt1pG62mJ/2 =VEQd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions/problems with 1.63 and 2.0
Hello all, Friday, August 22, 2003, Robert Lansdale wrote: 2) I receive thousands of messages a week, all year long. Ultimately my 250MB of disk space gets all used up. I can't drag drop messages off to the 'Trash' from my Inbox since there is no disk space. So I have to delete a few files, purge, delete some more files, purge, etc. until I exponentially expand my disk space (this is painstaking). Is there a way to have files deleted from the Inbox without having them go to the Trash folder? I am also an avid user of Agent and I don't have to do any of this maintenance with it. from 2.0 Beta/3 is possible to use Shift+Del for deleting immediatelly (not to Trash), but message still remains in msgbase of this folder and it must be compressed. You can set this in Account properties, Mail management, button Advanced and for each folder too in Deletion tab. 2b) Vice versa, can I have filters which delete files on the server and not download them, aka. spam messages? look to Sorting office, section Selective download filters. 3) Here is a long standing 'bug' in The Bat. The first two drop-down file types in the 'Save As' attachment on my machine are: AutoCAD Emergency Backup Drawing (*.$$$) AutoCAD Temporary File (*.$A) This means that my saved attachments get extensions of .$$$ if I forgot or don't select the *.* file selector. Could this be fixed so that *.* always come first in the selector list? I have *.* as first here. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayesit 0.4b - Ad Fontes!
Hello Dierk, On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:09:40 +0200 GMT (24/08/2003, 14:09 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: Yes I have. I myself don't archive the messages from this list for more than two days but nonetheless can look up something on the Net in the Archives. With TB's threading facility you don't need to include everything that had been said before as it is easily found. Hm. I think you have underquoted, and you have given the reason why it is inconvenient for pay-per-minute dial-up users. g I had to go back up thread to check what this was about - and TB still doesn't provide a go to previous message in thread shortcut, so I had to scroll up. ;-) I do agree with you that it is sometimes difficult to decide what needs to be quoted and what doesn't, and that OTOH there are cases that are clear-cut. Neither does TB provide a go to root of thread shortcut, but that has nothing to do with this, I just wanted to mention it again... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I've noticed that the press tends to be quite accurate, except when they're writing on a subject I know something about. - (Keith F. Lynch) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete behaviour is still inconsistent
Hi, I mentioned in beta 1 (and I think 2) that the delete function was inconsistent between IMAP and POP accounts. While Stefan produced the feature that adapts for that, it's still inconsistent. In a POP3 account: Delete a message marked as new, it moves to the trash as read In an IMAP account: Delete a message marked as new, it moves it to the trash as unread. This is just something minor, but gets a little annoying when TB keeps telling you that you have mail, when it is in fact the deleted items. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Bat Version: v2.0 Beta/3 Windows Version: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 [ Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is your list of naughty girls ] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: feature request: if sender is in addrbook, do not treat as spam
Hi Paul, ,--- --- -- - - - | From...: Paul Cartwright | Sent...: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:41:03 AM `-- --- -- - - - how do you use the integrated spam plugin. I don't have a plugin to add, where do you get it there's no *integrated* spam plugin. tb offers an interface for plugin developers to write their own plugins and integrate them into tb. possible plugins are antivirus, spam and macros (as far as i know of). currently there are only a few plugins available and since the plugin feature was introduced on the beta release of tb, all plugins are as well beta. one often noted antispam plugin you can find below. for discussions on that i would suggest to also join the TBDEV mailing list, since new version are usually posted there. This developer's build you can find here: http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04d_pickup_folders.zip (66.8kb) after you dl'ed the file you install it by extracting the files in a folder you like and read the readme.txt which is supplied if i remind it correctly. if you have any questions installing the plugin feel free to ask either list or write me a mail. is popfile a plugin??? I already use popfile i didn't heard of popfile, yet. but i assume it's an extrnal tool running and thus not directly integrated into tb - no plugin. nevertheless plugins work as extrnal tools do, but in advantage to external tools have to possibility of accessing internal tb data like the addressbook and stuff like that. on the other hand, you might not have a need for running plugins since you can handle most, daily needed stuff, by external tools like spampal and norton antivirus as well. choosing plugin or external is more a personal preference than a real advantage of one above the other, at least in the moment. Jan -- __ (..) _.o0( )0o.__ I plugged my phone in where the blender used to be. I called someone. They went 'A...' (Steven Wright) Message created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 Windows XP 5.1-Service Pack 1 (Build 2600) AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ @ 1.80ghz SOYO SY-KT400 DRAGON Ultra (VIA Chipset) 2x APACER 512mb DDR-RAM PC-226 CL2 ATI Radeon 9700 PRO (128mb RAM) 2x IBM IC35L120AVVA07-0 HD (a 120gb) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: feature request: if sender is in addrbook, do not treat as spam
Hi Samson, ,--- --- -- - - - | From...: Samson | Sent...: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:34:34 AM `-- --- -- - - - thanks for your interest in this. why say sorry :) sorry just because i tried to be gentle and simply misunderstood you question ;) how about this: add never treat mail as spam if the sender is in whitelist option in pref/spam plugin dialog. then, if this setting is on, thebat doesn't call plugin to process this msg at all. i would prefer the setting to be enabled or disabled in the config area of the plugin. for one there's no need to change tb then. for another it's more a plugin specific setting. possibly there a spam filtering plugins working with DNSBLs only and therefore need no whitelists - but still whitelists could be implemented ;). nevertheless it's a choice of the plugin developer what possibilities he likes to make available to the users and should not be enforced by tb imo. Jan -- __ (..) _.o0( )0o.__ The sun never sets on the British Empire. But it rises every morning. The sky must get awfully crowded. (Steven Wright) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: feature request: if sender is in addrbook, do not treat as spam
Hi Jan, ,--- --- -- - - - | From...: Jan Oetjen | Sent...: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:53:14 PM `-- --- -- - - - This developer's build you can find here: http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04d_pickup_folders.zip (66.8kb) I've overseen the post in this mailing list. the link i supplied you with is a pickup version for beta testers in the TBDEV mailing list, you should better pickup http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04b.zip (188kb) which is the official beta 0.4 release. sorry again for the confusion. Jan -- __ (..) _.o0( )0o.__ As far as I'm concerned, there won't be a Beatles reunion as long as John Lennon remains dead. Message created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 Windows XP 5.1-Service Pack 1 (Build 2600) AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ @ 1.80ghz SOYO SY-KT400 DRAGON Ultra (VIA Chipset) 2x APACER 512mb DDR-RAM PC-226 CL2 ATI Radeon 9700 PRO (128mb RAM) 2x IBM IC35L120AVVA07-0 HD (a 120gb) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP support
Hello all, Saturday, August 23, 2003, David Anderson wrote: Can someone explain how IMAP support is supposed to work in V2? It seems to keep the connection dialog open permanently. You can change it in Account | Properties | Mail Management | Advanced button | IMAP. Also, there does not seem to be any way to change an account from IMAP to POP3. Am I missing something? yes, it will not be possible to change protocol on-the-fly, each of them have different folder structure. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete large messages from server doesn't work correctly in 2.0beta 3?
Hello The Bat! beta users and developers, It's customer feedback from the Hungarian users list, I don't use this function so someone please comment on it. Peti Lajos wrote (translated): -8-CUT HERE-- The new Delete large messages from server function doesn't work correctly. If it's unchecked, but Delete received messages from server is checked, then it doesn't delete the large message from the server at first, but an alert message appears in the inbox with the header of the large message. However, the second time I check my mail, it deletes the large message, though delete large messages... is unchecked. WHY? It should leave it on the server! It'd be very good if an important message couldn't be lost this way, if the user forgets to retrieve it instantly. It'd be a great bonus for dialup users. In older versions, if you specified a max. message size, then TB wouldn't retrieve mail greater than that size, but if delete received messages from server was checked (as is, you wouldn't leave ALL your mail on the server), then TB deleted it immediately, and your potentionally important message was gone. I think this new function has come to avoid this situation. It is better, but not quite perfect! -8-CUT HERE-- Cheers, SyP -- Life would be easier if I had the source code. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and the Merak Mail Server
Hi Now that The Bat! is providing IMAP support I keen to move my domestic mail server to IMAP. Having looked for a low-cost IMAP server Merak seems like a good option. However it seems determined to use SSL for the connection and requires seems to require a certificate. I am way out of my depth with SSL and certificates and wondered if anyone has the combination set-up and could give me some pointers on how to either get The Bat! to trust Merak or get Merak to accept connections without using SSL. If it's any help Outlook Express will connect to the IMAP server but displays a warning about the certificate not being issued by a trusted source. -- Regards Mark Current beta is 2.0b3 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
