Re: 2.01?

2003-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Peter!

On Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 8:25:44 PM you wrote:

 Press start to do anything ... Anything has to be begun once, every
 action has a first step one starts. So everything would fit into
 Start following this argumentation.

But, old friend, that's exactly the logic MS used here, if you have a
look into the Start menu as used by default, you'll see ...

 No need for Quick Launch Bar, System Tray or anything else.

Which only shows how idiotic - usability-wise writing - MS's decision
to take up Apple's even more  ... [you know what] scheme is.

BTW, is this still the same thread I started by asking where to get
2.01?



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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

2003-10-23 Thread George Mitchell
MaXxX wrote:

 I've recently been conversing with a friend of mine, who uses MS
 Outlook. All of his messages have an attachment called winmail.dat,
 but, knowing that Outlook might be attaching weird files for its own
 evil reasons, I ignored it.

snip

 So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted
 standard for sending attachments, or (more likely, I know) does
 Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I pry
 the darned thing open??

As you suspected, Outlook sends weird stuff.  Some information and
solutions (including a link to a decoder) can be found at:

http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm

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PGP/GnuPG

2003-10-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Stefan,

on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:33:50 +0300GMT (23.10.03, 19:33 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

ST New build v2.01.7

ST [-] Bug with encryption in the built-in support for PGP v6-8

Perhaps it works on XP now. But now again, it doesn't on Win98. It was
OK here in 2.01, now it is as it was before: selecting encrypt only
brings up nothing - see bug_id 1512...

I still cannot use GnuPG within The Bat!, because I cannot select the ID
of my key. It was also OK in the meantime - see bug_id 1636...

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Re[2]: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

2003-10-23 Thread Paul C
Hello admins...


M Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I pry

M the darned thing open??

PC drag the winmail.dat to a program called fentun.exe , it will expand out

PC any attachments..

 ok, I can see the cut  copy police out after me... I THOUGHT I trimmed
 that reply, but when I got itUGH, his entire message
 go ahead, make my day;0)

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

2003-10-23 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 9:04:05 PM, Martin Webster turned
electrons into what is below:

 You can view the winmail.dat file using a free utility from
 http://www.biblet.com/.

Found it already, but thanks. :)
Where in the nine pits of Hell did they (MS) find that idea :/

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

2003-10-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Paul,

@23-Oct-2003, 15:35 -0400 (20:35 UK time) Paul C [PC] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul:

M Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck
M can I pry the darned thing open??

PC drag the winmail.dat to a program called fentun.exe , it will
PC expand out any attachments..

PC  ok, I can see the cut  copy police out after me... I THOUGHT I
PC  trimmed that reply, but when I got itUGH, his entire
PC  message go ahead, make my day;0)

All I'll say is ... what the zarking photon is that double line
spacing all about? Looks like you're using a slightly tweaked
wrapped quotes template. Do you need some help with putting it
straight? (goto TBTECH for that).

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Re: v2.01.7

2003-10-23 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 7:33:50 PM, Stefan Tanurkov has
created the following:

 [*] More sensible scroll bar settings for MicroEd

Hmm, something DOES seem to work better in here, but still erasing a
block of text when scrolled down that causes the message's length to
drop below one screenful causes weirdness: no scrollbar, but message
scrolled up.

That's the same problem that arises when I hold the down arrow for
long. The message scrolls up, but the scrollbar doesn't appear at all.
It should assume that I'm at the end of a (virtually elongated)
message, in my opinion.

Stefan, why don't you make it just so that the right scrollbar's
maxvalue is max(editorlines,cursorpos)? And if the scrollbar's a part
of the TTextField, and not custom-positionable, then heck with it,
make it separate.

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Re: Mod: Bad language (was: Sending Mail... again)

2003-10-23 Thread Tero Ripattila
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Hello Marck,

On  21.  lokakuuta  2003  at  14:07:19  +0100  (16:07  Local  time) Marck D
Pearlstone   [MDP]   wrote   in   TBBeta   message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

TR I am getting really ** up

Sorry  for  my  bad language. I got definitely fed up, because I had to nag
over   and   over  again about the issue :-) This time I was clever enought
to enter it to BT ;)

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Re[4]: Sending Mail... again

2003-10-23 Thread Tero Ripattila
Hello Alexander,

On  21.  lokakuuta  2003  at  17:51:57   +0600 (14:51 Local time) Alexander
Leschinsky   [AL]   wrote   in   TBBeta   message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

AL Well, what is your IMAP-server?

I am running courier-imap-1.5.3 on OpenBSD 3.2 stable.

AL  I  tried  different  IMAP, and got big (but different) problem only on
AL  SwcureBat  with  IMAPS  -  two  copies  saved  in  outbox,  both  send
AL successfully on sending stage, one stays in outbox forever :-(

I'vetried   only   Courier,   because  it's my personal server and I've
root access   to   it  :-)  I tried to access my IMAP account trough regular and 
TLS  secured  connection  and  both of them behaved in the same way. I also
connected  to  the  server  trough  a  PuTTY's  SSH  tunnel, but it made no
difference to the previous ones.

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