Re: memory leaks in thebat! ??

2004-05-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Zeflash,

On Mon, 3 May 2004 14:38:33 +0200 GMT (03/05/2004, 19:38 +0700 GMT),
Zeflash wrote:

Z OK. I didn't know my mail would trigger such a general debate about
Z the position of TheBat in the mail industry :)

We're a philosophical bunch when there are no betas to dissect. ;-)

Z I'll recenter the subject to the problem at hand: the memory leak.
Z Is this forum monitored by the developers at RitLabs? is this going to
Z be taken in account for future releases?

Some of the developers read this list. However, to get an issue fixed
it usually helps better to add bugnotes to a bugreport.

Z I take from some replies that the issue fixing process isn't something
Z very reliable. Although a leak as someone pointed out is something
Z that *shouldn't* be in a released product. It's just wrong.

I agree with you here.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

I know you think you understood what I said, but what you heard was
not what I meant.

Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build  A 
using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM




 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: memory leaks in thebat! ??

2004-05-03 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Thomas,

Chemists convened on Monday, May 3, 2004 at 20:21 GMT +0700 to watch
Thomas Fernandez synthesize:

 We're a philosophical bunch when there are no betas to dissect. ;-)
  ^^
  I think you can omit this part and it
  would still be true.  ;-)


snip
Z Although a leak as someone pointed out is something
Z that *shouldn't* be in a released product. It's just wrong.

 I agree with you here.

Perhaps I missed it, but I don't recall anyone noticing the issue
while they were still in the beta cycle...  Of course now that the bug
has been revealed, hopefully the issue will be resolved quickly.

-- 
Thanks for writing,
 Januk Aggarwal





 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: Search in VF

2004-05-03 Thread Samson
You can do that with VFs, why not use one instead of search tool?

That's exactly my point of the word decent. since this feature is already nicely 
implemented in
VF, I would natually hope the same functionality (or even more powerful) to be done in 
search
dialog. Otherwise it is very inconvinient to find a message. For example, in order to 
find a
message with multiple conditions, i need to create a VF and set the conditions in the 
properties
dialog; or leave a live VF as use for everyday search and keep modifying its 
properties every
time i need. Both are not the right thing to do.



-- 
Samson, using Agent newsreader



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


TB! takes always the EML files

2004-05-03 Thread NetVicious
A  member  of the Spanish TBUDL have reported TB! takes always the EML
files  even  if  you  haven't associated TB! with EML files in the TB!
Preferences.
  

-- 
   
  /\/
 /  \  / \  /
/\/ e t   \/ i c i o u s
   
Moderator of Spanish TBUDL
Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat!

Using The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1)






 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: TB! takes always the EML files

2004-05-03 Thread MAU
Hello NetVicious,

 A member of the Spanish TBUDL have reported TB! takes always the EML
 files even if you haven't associated TB! with EML files in the TB!
 Preferences.

That may be because EML file type is still associated with TB (i.e. no
other program has associated EML with it). Open Windows Explorer (not
IE) and select Tools/Folder Options/File Types and scroll till you find
EML, you will probably see it is still associated with TB. If you want
(he wants) to change it, click on the Change button and select which
program should be associated with EML files.

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.10.03





 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: Search in VF

2004-05-03 Thread Samson
GS What is wrong with [EMAIL PROTECTED]class for Search for and select 
subject and sender
GS for scope?

Because I don't know it was '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' I only know his name was
'John Doe' and the subject contained 'class'.

The other point is that if i type john  class in text box and check subject and 
sender, it is
not exactly what i want, the condition might be wider or narrower than what i expect, 
as the program
might try to match john in subject and class in sender. This defeats the 
purpose of using
multiple conditions: accurate search.






-- 
Samson, using Agent newsreader



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re[2]: inaccurate attachment size?

2004-05-03 Thread NetVicious
martes, 4 may 2004 at 00:21, it seems you wrote:

 Thanks but I don't really think that is the reason. I understand
 the difference between actual file
 size and disk space occupied. in my example, the size I
 observed from windows file property is
 79,974, which is not even a even KB, and I'm sure it is size, not size on disk.


Ok, so Confirmed!.

I  tested  it  and  with a attachment of 5.673bytes i get on disk an a
file of 5.675bytes.

Are you using IMAP or POP3. Pop3 it's being used here.

-- 
   
  /\/
 /  \  / \  /
/\/ e t   \/ i c i o u s
   
Moderator of Spanish TBUDL
Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat!

Using The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1)



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: Search in VF

2004-05-03 Thread Samson
 I agree with you the Search Tool can be improved but, since we have VFs
 now I assume it is not of high priority. I use a live VF for most of
 my searches now.

alright, i agree it is a temporary solution so far. at least better
than none :)

 
 BTW, can't you set Agent to wrap lines at 72 characters or so?  It is
 not easy to read your messages.

is it ok now? and this shows thebat's line wrapping needs to be
improved :)


-- 
Samson, using Agent newsreader



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: Search in VF

2004-05-03 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU,

Monday, May 3, 2004, 1:37:33 PM, MAU wrote:

 The VFs pretty much replace the Bookmark feature with VA.

M Not completely though. I still wish wish I could flag (assign to colour
M group) a message as For Reply .AND. Important .AND. For Reference,
M if you now what I mean.

Not really.

You were probably a more advanced user of VA than I. Probably the same
with TB. I got into some of the basic stuff, filtering, and did mail
merges. VA was a resource in that it could store large mail base, and I
could use bookmarks to find/store important stuff. TB covers VA from and
email perspective with VFs and more with the macro capability. I do wish
you could do a mail merge from data from some type of tab or comma
delimited file. You wouldn't have to jump through hoops to put the data
temporarily in the AB.

The benefit of VA for me was really the all in one and it threaded
discussions pretty well. By all in one I mean email, CIS forums, and
newsgroups.

-- 
Best Regards,
Greg Strong   

Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1




 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: Search in VF

2004-05-03 Thread MAU
Hello Samson,

 or leave a live VF as use for everyday search and keep modifying its
 properties every
 time i need. Both are not the right thing to do.

I agree with you the Search Tool can be improved but, since we have VFs
now I assume it is not of high priority. I use a live VF for most of
my searches now.

BTW, can't you set Agent to wrap lines at 72 characters or so?  It is
not easy to read your messages.

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.10.03





 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: inaccurate attachment size?

2004-05-03 Thread NetVicious
viernes, 30 abr 2004 at 07:32, it seems you wrote:

 my account setting is to keep attachment in message body (not a
 separate file). however i found the
 file size displayed in the mail sidebar never matches the actual size when the file 
 is saved to
 disk. for example, i now have a file which shows as 79,921 bytes in thebat mail view 
 sidebar, but
 when saved to disk, windows file properties window shows 79,974

 i can reproduce this issue on all attachments. is this a known bug?


It should be the clustering waste space.

Right  click  on  the  file  when  it's  saved to a folder, and select
properties. See the Size and the Size in disk numbers and compare.

PD:  I  have  a  spanish Windows, so some of the texts of this message
could be different.

-- 
   
  /\/
 /  \  / \  /
/\/ e t   \/ i c i o u s
   
Moderator of Spanish TBUDL
Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat!

Using The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1)



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/


Re: Search in VF

2004-05-03 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Samson,

Monday, May 3, 2004, 8:20:06 PM, Samson wrote:

 BTW, can't you set Agent to wrap lines at 72 characters or so? 
 It is
 not easy to read your messages.

S is it ok now? and this shows thebat's line wrapping needs to be
S improved :)

Not necessarily. It could be the window split used is not wide enough
for the line length you were using.  Just a guess!

-- 
Best Regards,
Greg Strong   

Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

(1) Grab a calculator (you won't be able to do this one in your head).
(2) Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area
code).  (3) Multiply by 80.  (4) Add 1  (5) Multiply by 250.  (6) Add
the last 4 digits of your phone number.  (7) Add the last 4 digits of
your phone number again.  (8) Subtract 250  (9)  Divide number by 2.  Do
you recognize the answer?



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/