Re: consistent menuing - Att: Val

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Thursday, August 05, 2004 it appears that 9Val 
wrote the following in regards to consistent menuing - Att: Val:

9 [snip] we (only ) need to find the reason
9 why  filters  don't  work  on your side (there are two possibilities -
9 incorrect  filter  working  or incorrect filter importing
9 [/snip]

  For me, at the moment, it seems pretty clear. With debug turned
  on all filters don't work. With debug turned off, filters work
  fine. Sent one filter privately, sending original filter today
  for comparison as I wanted to spend one day with beta 2 filters
  to see if there was much difference.

JR As for options how to do it better, that is programmer
JR problem. Like I said, I'm just a poor  long time user.

9 So you don't want to participate in getting TB! closer to
9 end-user? [snip]

  I've been using this program for a long time too long for
  anyone to be asking me that question.
  
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Re: Sub-filters?..

2004-08-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Thursday, August 05, 2004 it appears that Allie Martin 
wrote the following in regards to Sub-filters?..:

 does anyone know what sub-filters are and how we could use them?
 (Presumably some-one wants them, else how did they get on the
 feature list in the first place?)

AM Without documentation I'd be speculating. However, logically, the
AM following should be the case:

AM Without subfilters, TB! currently takes each message through the
AM filters and sequentially looks for a filter match starting from the
AM filter at the top and working downwards. The first matching filter is
AM applied and nothing further is done with that message unless the
AM initial matching filter has 'continue processing with other filters
AM enabled'.

AM Subfilters seem to offer the ability to create a fork in the sequence.

Hi Allie.

  I assumed the same thing(s) about sub-filers  tried one w/o
  much luck. Problem is that it was part of a multiple filter
  structure, i.e. x or y or z, then move to folder with continue
  filtering to sub-filter to change color.

  I think there are problems with debug filters  I think I know there are
  problems with change color so it's hard to know if subfilter is
  working or not.

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Imrprovements to the sorting office visuals

2004-08-06 Thread Foster, Graham
Hi TBBETA

I've just posted
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_report_advanced_page.php as a
placeholder for suggestions on how to improve the visuals for the new
filter system

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Re[2]: Search in VF

2004-08-06 Thread Konstantin Zhilenko
Hello, 9Val,

Friday, August 06, 2004, you wrote:

KZ Searching in VF doesn't seem to work at all.
KZ Reproduce: Message Search toolbar button, select any VF to search in, type
KZ anything, select any options you want, click Start. In few ms TB! says
KZ Search finished. Found 0 messages.

KZ Noone can confirm?

9 Search in VF isn't implemented, sorry for delay

Thanks, Val.
Is it going to be implemented?

Second issue I have - since opening a folder 20K messages in my TB! at work
takes ages I had to do some shaman dances with folders (  ). I'm
trying to keep messages only for last month (it's around 4K messages for
me). First I've created a VF with a filter to show messages for past 31
days, but since search in VF is not implemented yet I had to create a normal
filter (old one) to move all messages older than 31 days to Archive. Now I'm
seeing a glitch, at least I think it's a glitch - in a filter I've set
Message is older than 31 days, but messages *created* on 24 Jun and
*received* on 12 Jul are still in the folder.

Let me explain - I've been on vacation and received the mail on Jul 12th, so
my guess is - filter looks at *received* and not on *created* date, which is
wrong, no? VF behaves correctly in this case - looks at *created* date.


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Re: BayesIT whitelist errors and questions

2004-08-06 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, Michael.

You wrote 06.08.2004 @ 14:42 

MLW ...
MLW sure the difference between matches and equals, since there is no help...

MLW So, please explain the options and the proper syntax.

It uses the very same syntax as K9. contains, begins, ends and equals
uses usual comparision, matches (and not matches) uses regular expressions
and need PCRE.DLL to be placed into the same folder where thebat.exe is (or into
the system folder).

The latest version is 0.5.10 [ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit0510.rar 
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Re: Sent messages residing in Outbox - still

2004-08-06 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Plan9!

On Friday, August 6, 2004 at 2:20:56 PM you wrote:

 I can confirm this.  After deleting the mentioned OUTBOX files, a couple of
 messages made it through and then they began to stick again.

I was just told privately that the vital part in the advice Paul did
forget to mention: Uncheck the Debug New Filter System. D'uh.

Not feasible if we want to beta-test it, is it?




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Re: Imrprovements to the sorting office visuals

2004-08-06 Thread MaXxX
On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 3:48:57 PM, Foster, Graham jumped on the
stage, took a mike and sang:

 I've just posted
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_report_advanced_page.php as a
 placeholder for suggestions on how to improve the visuals for the new
 filter system

Umm, but, uh, that's the new bug report page...

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Re: Imrprovements to the sorting office visuals

2004-08-06 Thread 9Val
Hello MaXxX,  

M Umm, but, uh, that's the new bug report page...

It is not needed already :) Wait 15 minutes please

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Re: X-Face Plug-in 1.4.1

2004-08-06 Thread eaglesky
Hello Jacek,

Is there English version?

Friday, August 6, 2004, 7:32:08 PM, you wrote:

 Hi All

  New  version  of  X-Face  plug-in  for The Bat! is now available from
  http://natserwis.pl/~szumi/thebat/en/XFace_plugin.php

  Last changes:
  [+] auto displaying image on select message
  [+] transparent image



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Re: X-Face Plug-in 1.4.1

2004-08-06 Thread Thomas Woelk
* eaglesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[ X-Face Plugin 1.4.1 ]

 Is there English version?

No, but it is very easy to use. You don't need Polish language
knowledge. ;-)

An English tutorial is available on:
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Filter converting bug

2004-08-06 Thread Richard Anders
Hello All,

The bug, I reported in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
is still present in TheBat! 2.12 Beta 3. Can anyone confirm?

Old filter:
BeginFilter
Name: Test
Active: 1
Source: \\Test Account\Inbox
Target: \\Test Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00
Actions: faoAdvColor
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: DNSBL
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

Look at IsOfColor!


New filter:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [E31CB632.01C47A4F.1298FA5B.6CF011C9]
Name: New\20rule
Filter: {0\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CTest\20Account\5CSent
endFiltere

9Val, can you reproduce?

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Re: Sent messages residing in Outbox - still

2004-08-06 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Friday, August 6, 2004, 12:02 PM, you wrote:

 I can confirm this.  After deleting the mentioned OUTBOX files, a couple of
 messages made it through and then they began to stick again.

DH I was just told privately that the vital part in the advice Paul did
DH forget to mention: Uncheck the Debug New Filter System. D'uh.

I didn't think that was part of the stuck mail problem, I thought they
were separate issues, and even WITH that unchecked, I also reverted back
to mail sticking in the outbox. we need another beta FAST!

DH Not feasible if we want to beta-test it, is it?

so, go back to beta 1 ?? nah!!


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Re: Sent messages residing in Outbox - still

2004-08-06 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Paul!

On Friday, August 6, 2004 at 8:06:16 PM you wrote:

 I didn't think that was part of the stuck mail problem

AIUI, it was.

But beta 3 is out and the bug is fixed. Seems there are some problems
with sending mail to the list by 9Val. I think I can show and tell.



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Re: BayesIT whitelist errors and questions

2004-08-06 Thread NetVicious
viernes, 6 ago 2004 at 07:42, it seems you wrote:

 I am not sure the difference between matches and equals, since there
 is  no help or documentation, but both return an error after I close
 and come back.

As  translator I asked the same to the BayesIt! author for translating
those strings to spanish.

matches uses regexp to verify the condition.

  Example:  g.*es = goes or goooes or gies

equals it's the normal comparation

  Example: goes = goes

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These new filters have got me beat

2004-08-06 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello,

Tried again with this latest beta but I get messages scattered, amongst
other places, round my Spam and Trash folders. Sometimes both of those
as well as the designated folder (in other words 3 repeat messages, one
in each folder) but none at all in JUST the folder it's meant to go in.

Back to switching off Debug Filters again.

Oh, and the HTML bug is still there just as much as before.

I think it's time for me to admit defeat and go back to version 12.

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The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/3 is out!

2004-08-06 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Friday, August 6, 2004, 2:13 PM, you wrote:

 I didn't think that was part of the stuck mail problem

DH AIUI, it was.

DH But beta 3 is out and the bug is fixed. Seems there are some problems
DH with sending mail to the list by 9Val. I think I can show and tell.

oh, go ahead then and tell us! and the link is
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
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Another large suggestion regarding the filters...

2004-08-06 Thread MaXxX
Greetings.

I wonder how much it would be possible to implement - you RIT guys
won't probably be going to remake the filters again anytime soon, so
it's the final moment I can suggest it...

Right now, the nice new filter structure editor allows for creating
filters. If (this field) matches (this regexp) then proceed with
move here and do this. Right?

It would only need a tiny little parser... and changing the filter
editor into a code generator... and it could all look like this:
clicking all the edit fields would produce this text:

IF sender REGEXP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AND recipient CONTAINS foo
THEN MARK AS parked
AND MOVE TO Inbox\blehbleh

Why all this? First of all, it could be much more easily copied and
pasted and corrected. And second of all, it's only a tiny little step
from:

IF sender REGEXP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AND recipient CONTAINS foo
THEN MARK AS parked
AND MOVE TO Inbox\blehbleh
AND BEGIN
  IF MARKED AS important
  THEN PLAY SOUND burp.wav
END

I can write the specification of such a script, or even write the
parser for it, if you want... :P

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