Re: 3.5 Final new-/non-/fixed issues
On Mon, 16 May 2005, at 00:32:45 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:32 where I live) Peter Ouwehand wrote: list ...snip I like to add: PGP http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4171 and https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4329 -- cheers, Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.5 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x6C9F6CE78C32408B Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
On Sunday, 15 May 2005, at 18:18:25 [GMT +0200] you wrote: MF the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is completely rearranged, MF and now completely adapted to the new GUI in version v3.5. The icon set MF is optimized and tested for Win98 SE, Win2k and WinXP. (no stages on MF Win98/w2k) MF Preview: http://bat-mail.de.vu/minimal.html The minimal set is great for, well, a minimal setup. Is there any icon sets for 3.5 that are smaller than the standard set, so that I can get some screen real estate back, but not quite a minimal as this one ? cheers, davidp. -- David Pascoe, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Western Australia Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5: MSI default path
Hello Marcus, Sunday, May 15, 2005, 12:14:17 PM, you wrote: I suppose you should remove the quotes again if it doesn't help, just to be sure you haven't changed anything to the worse. It doesn't read EXE path, but ProgramDir -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
Hello David, On Mon, 16 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DP The minimal set is great for, well, a minimal setup. Is there any icon DP sets for 3.5 that are smaller than the standard set, so that I can get DP some screen real estate back, but not quite a minimal as this one ? I use the top set from the address below and it's very good although I have changed a couple of things to make them more to my liking. For instance the 4 small arrows at the bottom right need changing to be able to be seen well in TB! but that's minor. http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=128 -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on: 15 May 2005 at 23:43:54 GMT +0200 This isn't what they're referring to. It's your In-Reply-to headers. Would you check the messages in your Sent Folder. See if they In-Reply-to headers have the message id enclosed in . In that case I don't know what they're referring to. When I reply they are the 3 choices or reply address I get so I choose the list address. And no it doesn't contain any . I just reply, choose the list address as provided which I presume is taken from the post I'm replying to and that's it. This post should be OK, I'm sending it with The Bat. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
Hello Jonathan, A reminder of what Jonathan Angliss on TBBETA typed on: 15 May 2005 at 00:20:17 GMT +0200 RFC2822 says that the must be there (section 3.6.4). Looks like Mulberry needs to have that fixed It's not a Mulberry problem, it's mine. Allie uses Mulberry and his is fine. I just got to suss out why mine is all to cock. I'm back in TB! now so these should be fine and, so far TB's IMAP is running OK here. Truth is, before Friday afternoon I was a Virgin... IMAP virgin that is and I just have to perfect my technique :) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV Cascade on exiting after changing connection number
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on: 16 May 2005 at 02:33:06 GMT +0200 I just decided to try fiddling with the value for the number of IMAP connections to the server. I just did exactly the same after reading Gleasons message. I switched from 2 to 8 connections and ran the test. No errors reported.. Done exactly the same. I then exited TB! and got an AV cascade. This time, I used the print screen option and got it: Read your post so exited TB! Didn't get any AV's at all, it closed down and restarted without incident. whisper Don't want to speak too soon so I'm saying this very quietly, IMAP seems to be running perfectly here so far... S. /whisper -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.5
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on: 16 May 2005 at 02:41:21 GMT +0200 I see. Though I don't agree with it, I quite like Mulberries editor. Trouble is when I compose a message I'm always adding to it, taking bit's away and rephrasing things so ALT+L is one thing I really miss in any other client. PS: Hows my threading now? -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Themes behaviour
Hello TBBETA, I have just installed version 3.5 I was lurking around new options and have tried to load several themes. I would like to know if is normal that themes only modify the upper and lower part of the screen (see image attached) Regards, -- Fabioattachment: batthemes.gif Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Ungrouped Pop Up Menu for New Mail
This has been reported as not working in this release of The Bat! Is there any chance this will be fixed shortly. The upgrade has resulted in a long list of names with no grouping. (or has this been fixed and I'm not doing something in set up?) A real down grade in what was a very stable feature of the Bat. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 - now lost preferences?
NetVicious, On 14-05-2005 21:21, you [N] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: N I think this it's really bad. RIT should have added an import N routine for the old shortcuts. In principle, I agree with you. However, it might have been next to impossible (read: not feasible) technically. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. ~11 POP3, 2 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
Avi, On 15-05-2005 15:57, you [AY] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AY Unfortunately, I am still waiting for OTFE. It is there. As has been discussed almost hundreds of times you need to do a fresh install. Make a backup of _everything_, delete registry keys and reinstall. Then install again. It should take no more than 10 mins. AY Yes, it might be there already and working quite well, but why must AY I do a fresh install to get it? That's the way it is. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. ~11 POP3, 2 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
NetVicious, On 15-05-2005 01:20, you [N] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: N Another direction could be a better integration with Microsoft N Exchange. I think there is no substitute (in Linux it exist N Evolution) of Microsoft Outlook with a perfect integration with N Exchange (schedule, meetings, tasks to do). This integration could N add a lot of enterprise customers on the list of possible TB! users. I would _love_ this - this way I did not have to use Outlook at work for meetings, etc. As it is now I have to run TB!/IMAP and Outlook in parallel. I also think it might interesting for Ritlabs from a business POW. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. ~11 POP3, 2 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 12:26, Peter Ouwehand wrote: You don't need another icon set for that, using the file batskin.xml, change the lines Can't find any batskin.xml at my system, are you sure this wasn't a beta/RC feature only? Any ideas how to make the icons smaller using the release version? Should I create batskin.xml and if so, where and what should it contain? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Small Keyboard-Issue with Move Message(s) To Folder Dialogue
Hallo MAU, hiermit antworte ich auf die Nachricht vom 12.05.2005 (23:56 Uhr): PS: [downwards or upwards triggered my assumption for cursor keys] M No, I mean by typing first few letters of folder name. Ahh... Now I figured out, how this folder list works. It is more like Apple Finder behaves than MS Explorer. One needs to type the whole folder name and not only the first character. Thanks for this hint! :-) -- Best regards, Carsten Using The Bat! 3.5 Return RC9 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Status Report on the Christmas Edition of The Bat
Hello Ming, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 5:24:11 PM, you wrote: No, I mean the windows editor. From v3.022 beta, the windows editor module had been changed significantly. Auto-spellchecker and other extra features are added into windows editor, but the DBCS support of windows editor was broken after that. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3991 OK, Diman will be fixing that. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB! Memory Consumption
Hello , TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: thebat.exe Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? I'm using no plug-ins at all but am using IMAP, of course. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Oxymoron: Definite possibility Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Ouwehand on TBBETA typed on: 16 May 2005 at 12:55:38 GMT +0200 http://ouwehand.net/~thebat/309nn/35Final/batskin.xml Thank you. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
Hello Peter I also think it might interesting for Ritlabs from a business POW. I don't believe any organisation with an installed Outlook client base and Exchange server would ever look at The Bat! as an enterprise e-mail client. Where is the track record? Where is the support model? The Bat is a niche market product for those people who want an e-mail client to do more (in some areas). If Ritlabs want to produce an Outlook replacement for their clients, then I would wholeheartedly support this, as I too have to run Outlook and TB in parallel. Ritlabs however should not embark on this with the idea they will make money on it - 'cause they wont. Regards Graham -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
Hello Marcus, A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström on TBBETA typed on: 16 May 2005 at 12:51:27 GMT +0200 Can't find any batskin.xml at my system, Neither can I, I deleted it. Could I trouble someone to send me one please? -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Ouwehand on TBBETA typed on: 16 May 2005 at 12:27:00 GMT +0200 You don't need another icon set for that, using the file batskin.xml, change the lines etc. etc. Changed mine to size 24, perfect! Thank you very much. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.5
On Monday, May 16, 2005 at 12:22:56 AM [GMT -0500], Gleason Pace wrote: I don't think there is any reason why it should take more than one connection to query a pop server, or to synchronize a single imap folder. It is essentially a simple request/response situation. You're speaking of folders and I'm speaking of Accounts. :) I agree about the folder query. I'm referring to multiple server connects for an account. You could be making multiple requests for a single account. Different connections can then deal with these requests. Currently, TB! seems to use two connections at a time, no matter the number of requests. This is very evident at work where I have a slow connection and can clearly see what's happening in the CC. I'd start TB! and a lot of requests for folder counts come up. This is peppered with requests for folder header updates. I then open a folder and select a message. This stuck in the queue and has to wait its turn. I have 6 connections to the server. Two are in use, and yet the message body request has to wait its turn. This shouldn't be. At home here, things happen so fast, I can't see what's happening in the CC. Even though the same queueing problem may exist, the connection speed just overwhelms and masks the basic problem. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Famous last words - Jesus Christ: Father, beam me up. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Allie, On Monday, May 16, 2005 at 12:55:44 PM Allie [AM] wrote: AM TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: AM thebat.exe AM Mem Usage: 83,372K AM Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 AM VM Size: 76,108K AM Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K AM Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? There must be something in memory management that doesn't free memory correctly. See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3915 which clearly shows: RTV seems to have some problems with freeing memory, maybe it's somehow related to your problem. I'd say it's time for a 'find memory leaks' phase in next beta cycle. But that's only MHO ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) For the masses they pray, beside the crystal lake... Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
On Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 9:54:58 PM [GMT -0500], Avi Yashar wrote: Allie, I appreciate your sincerity, but... I have all of those conditions but none of those problems. The reason is because instead of setting up my own IMAP server (a dedicated computer or whatever I would have to do), I don't have my IMAP server on dedicated machine. :) I let Google (or my own domain Webmail) handle the central storage headache for me. You put a lot of trust in such a service. More power to you. I store my own mail on my personal machine and back it up regularly. Right now I am sitting in the airport, waiting for a flight and replying to your letter. I am not worried about losing any mail. I don't need to connect to my homemade IMAP server. I don't have to leave a homemade IMAP server in place and worry about blackouts or poor connections. Most commonly, I lose connection with my server, if I lose connection with the Internet in general. Additionally, the occasional problem with my personal server is less frequent as problems I have with other online services. It's far more reliable than you may realize. As I've said before, my only regret with all this is fearing the reliability issues and not actually doing it earlier. I just connect to my Gmail account and download the latest mail. My connection speed issues from work exist no matter which IMAP server I may connect to. 256Kbps from home is more than adequate. It's just that I don't get that from my office LAN out to the Internet and to my machine at home. I don't see how I am jumping through any special hoops. It seems like I have less hoops than ever before. I did not need to buy another email client just to accommodate IMAP nor have I had to pull my hair out over TB's IMAP implementation. So, for now at least, I stick with POP3, primitive as it might be. Sure. Your choice. Hopefully, this little discussion will stimulate others into trying IMAP in situations as yours. :) -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Never enter a battle of wits unarmed. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Peter, On Monday, May 16, 2005 at 1:21:19 PM Peter [PP] wrote: PP On Monday, May 16, 2005 at 12:55:44 PM Allie [AM] wrote: AM TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: AM thebat.exe AM Mem Usage: 83,372K AM Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 AM VM Size: 76,108K AM Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K AM Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? PP There must be something in memory management that doesn't free memory PP correctly. See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3915 which PP clearly shows: RTV seems to have some problems with freeing memory, PP maybe it's somehow related to your problem. PP I'd say it's time for a 'find memory leaks' phase in next beta cycle. PP But that's only MHO ... P.S.: I'm on 106 MB private Bytes, 88 MB working set and 408 MB virtual size after 25 hours of running, without having opened the huge message mentioned in BT-entry. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean nobody's out to get you. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MAU On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 10:44:40 AM +0400 GMT You wrote: M Hello 9Val, M You can already select different colour for M odd/even quotes, it has been M that way for many many moons. For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-) M Ah, I see. The background, you guys were talking about background. ThunderBird has this feature with an extention This is very useful when there is many reply to the same email - -- The Final Cut Have become comfortably numb.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1rc2 (MingW32) Comment: Key: http://finalcut.ca/finalcut.asc iD8DBQFCiIVokKh3IiDTK9ARAmF3AKDEejjVMlnPDEOcPEhXWMuwziDwSQCglSSR jiE4GLLAE8MhlSK3uGnx46Y= =FnJy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello! test! -- Best regards, Volodymyr V. Shvets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15:04:05, Monday, May 16, 2005 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
Graham, On 16-05-2005 12:56, you [FG] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: FG Ritlabs however should not embark on this with the idea they will FG make money on it - 'cause they wont. Do you know how many users of Outlook are looking for an alternative? No. Maybe TB! will not be implemented of a per-site basis but there probably enough disgruntled users of Outlook to make it worth Ritlabs' investment. At work, I run TB! although the official client is Outlook. Of course, IMO. (PS. Your signature delimiter is broken) FG Regards FG Graham -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. ~11 POP3, 2 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
It's not a Mulberry problem, it's mine. Allie uses Mulberry and his is fine. I just got to suss out why mine is all to cock. I confirm that, Tony. Mulberry messages always thread OK in TB here. Have you gone through the full help file PDF? Some of Mulberry's options are even more strangely located than TB's! -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
Hello Peter (PS. Your signature delimiter is broken) Ta -- Regards Graham -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
I can confirm this, Allie. After just 30 minutes memory usage is Mem Usage: 36,500K Peak Mem Usage: 42,800K VM Size: 29,500K Minimising TB then restoring it knocks back the memory usage to around 12Mb. -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 12:55, Peter Ouwehand wrote: http://ouwehand.net/~thebat/309nn/35Final/batskin.xml Oh, how nice isn't this, thank you Peter! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP in 3.5
Hi, behaviour of IMAP with v3.5 as compared to v3.01? AM I've been experiencing much better here. Here it's worse then ever before. With v3.01, the connection would block at the start and resume after a few minutes of thinking (not transfering anything as evident from a line monitor). Now, I can have ten connections sitting there and not starting at all. Right now e.g. we have 15 minutes and counting. (Addendum: We are now at 20 minutes and counting.) Usually two tasks indicate the same connection number. Doesn't that sound hopfully. But of course, it's not that bad after all. The new interface is slower, yes, it crashes more often with and without one or more messages (we truly have every flavour here!), but then we can now look at the error messages in our own colouring theme. Isn't that something to celebrate. Well, at least when TheBat doesn't just quit in the blink of an eye without any warning. But this only happens about every five minutes or so, therefore - what the heck. That's of course a whole lot better than v3.01. Honest. Cheers on RITs newest accomplishment. AM I'm using 2 connections here just fine. I've noted that if I use 4 or 6, AM only 2 connections are being used at a time anyway. So I use 2 and still AM have the same performance. I'm currently trying all ten connections in the hope that the more connections are specified, the sooner one of them will occasionally unblock. At the start it seemed as though this was correct as something started loading almost from the beginning. However, after this was done (whatever it was) on four connections, they quit and let the other six back in the dust like usual. The finished connections were not reused. AM Our experiences differ. It's not that we're using the program to AM do anything other than read/filter our mail and reply etc. as needed. That's my point exactly. How can you do this? It is just what I would like to do, could do with some hinderance in v3.01, and almost can do no longer with v3.5. It's a lot of progress the other way for me. AM Note that I can't duplicate this experience at work where I have a AM slower connection. I get frequent server disconnects. I don't get disconnects, I just get nothing. Tasks are started but are completed in a time frame of hours instead of seconds. Call me hard to please but I am not amused at this behaviour. Hey! TheBat finished checking! Timecount: 25 minutes to check a dozen folders with (altogether) about one hundered old and no new mails. Congratulations! Must have been very hard work! (I don't need to add that though all tasks have aparently been completed, still the Connection Center has not closed, do I?) -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpIdVoYdYEyT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: IMAP in 3.5
Hello all, Monday, May 16, 2005, Alto Speckhardt wrote: But of course, it's not that bad after all. The new interface is slower, yes, it crashes more often with and without one or more messages (we truly have every flavour here!) what crashes You are talking about? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
Hello Clive, A reminder of what Clive Taylor on TBBETA typed on: 16 May 2005 at 14:07:17 GMT +0200 I confirm that, Tony. Mulberry messages always thread OK in TB here. Have you gone through the full help file PDF? Some of Mulberry's options are even more strangely located than TB's! I have been reading the PDF's but only as far as rules and filters are concerned. I'm still waiting for my registration code from them. I've got 4 different PDF's, ranging from quick start to advanced. I'll have a read up on it. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5 Windows XP Home SP2 Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Next Beta Series Request)
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Re: test
Hallo Volodymyr, On Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:48 +0200GMT (16-5-2005, 15:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: VVS Hello! VVS test! If you'd tell us what it is you're testing, then we could comment. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacate (I came, I saw, I left) The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpBSQ64a4vQ5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
I've got 4 different PDF's, ranging from quick start to advanced. I'll have a read up on it. It's worth reading the full help file - lots of useful info there. BTW I'm replying to this using Mulberry. Interesting to see if it does thread OK in view of your comments. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Clive, Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:11:20 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Minimising TB then restoring it knocks back the memory usage to around 12Mb. I' ll see your 12MB and reduce it to 5MB! :) Any other bids? -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: My first impression of 3.5
Hello Roelof, Monday, May 16, 2005, 12:34:43 AM, you wrote: MP De gustibus et coloribus non disputandum est... :-) RO This is supposed to be an English list. :gdr: Num salmo capio?! (1)(2) :-) (1) may be wrong (2) Would the moderators be as kind as to let us know which genus of trout they are actually using: - Salvelinus - Salmo - Oncorhunchus? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.5 with MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 2.1.1121 rc8 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 2:7:37) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: First Impressions
Hello Tony, Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:53:40 AM, you wrote: TB In that case I don't know what they're referring to. When I reply they are TB the 3 choices or reply address I get so I choose the list address. And no TB it doesn't contain any . TB I just reply, choose the list address as provided which I presume is taken TB from the post I'm replying to and that's it. TB This post should be OK, I'm sending it with The Bat. Yes this one is OK. What Allie was referring to is the header In-Reply-To: and References you see when pushing F9 while viewing a message. I'm not sure if you can see the headers in Mulberry or not. I don't think it actually has anything to do with the address you send it to. I am guessing here but I believe the way it works is that when you send a message it is given a message ID or mid that is created specifically for that message. It is in the form of an email address (sort of) that might look like [EMAIL PROTECTED] . When you reply to a message a header is created called: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and another one called: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I assume each email client uses a different formula to come up with these mids, but I really don't know. I think the experts on the list could expound. When someone replies to your reply the Reference header will look like the following: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and after several replies back and forth like this: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is these headers that are used when you select thread by Reference. Now for your problem. Your copy of Mulberry, not Allie's, seems to not enclose your mid in . In other words your message has References that look like this. References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] That small difference seems to make your messages not thread correctly. Again in The Bat! use F9 to view the headers and this info for the message you are viewing. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ungrouped Pop Up Menu for New Mail
Hello Ethan, Monday, May 16, 2005, 5:21:03 AM, you wrote: EJM This has been reported as not working in this release of The Bat! EJM Is there any chance this will be fixed shortly. The upgrade has EJM resulted in a long list of names with no grouping. (or has this been EJM fixed and I'm not doing something in set up?) A real down EJM grade in what was a very stable feature of the Bat. Known bug. Will be fixed. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Allie Martin everyone else, on 16-Mai-2005 at 12:55 you (Allie Martin) wrote: Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? I'm using no plug-ins at all but am using IMAP, of course. We discussed this before and there's a bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531 You may want to read the thread starting with message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], too. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The best road to progress is freedom's road. -- John F. Kennedy Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.5
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 15-Mai-2005 at 17:24 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: Any contradicting opinions? Yes. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ungrouped Pop Up Menu for New Mail
Reply to message sent 5/16/2005, @ 08:36:07 (8:36 AM Locally) ~~~ EJM fixed and I'm not doing something in set up?) A real down EJM grade in what was a very stable feature of the Bat. Known bug. Will be fixed. I wish I could say I'm surprised that Ritlabs issued a new release with this well documented bug that inhibits a rather prominent piece of user interface, but I'm really not. With each new release you get some new cool features and you have to hope that your previous favorite features didn't get trashed and everything that used to work okay still does. This new release was months in the making, yet still feels like it was rushed out the door at the last minute. Don't get me wrong, I still love The Bat!, but the relationship is taking more and more work these days. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Ungrouped Pop Up Menu for New Mail
Hello Nick, Monday, May 16, 2005, 8:53:55 AM, you wrote: ND With each new release you get some new cool features and you have to ND hope that your previous favorite features didn't get trashed and ND everything that used to work okay still does. Yes, unfortunately. I guess in this case with the overhaul of the interface, they had to break just about everything in order to make the changes. :( -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
Hello Tero Ripattila everyone else, on 15-Mai-2005 at 23:49 you (Tero Ripattila) wrote: I totally agree with you. I can easily name numerous companies that would be interested in having an alternative windows-based exchange-client. The problem (at least for me) is the seamless integration operation into the Exchange environment. This includes dragdrop of Mails into the Calender, Mails into the To-Do list, working with the Exchange calendar, public folders, public contacts folders, etc. etc. I tried using TB at work connected it to our Exchange2003 server via IMAP, it does work, but its only the mailer part, and thats not enough. Sidenote: I can live with Outlook much better ever since I installed Google desktop. Searching is much easier now. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
Hi all,
I used to start the folder maintenance with a PowerPro script using
the keyboard shortcuts provided by The Bat!, so that the keystrokes
{alt}fa
pdc
{enter}
started to remove dupes and purge and compress all folders. This
doesn't work any more, because there isn't a shortcut for Maintenance
in 3.5 final. Is this intentional or has it only been lost? I'd love
to have it back.
--
Cheers
Peter
The Bat! v3.5 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM
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Re: Themes behaviour
Hello Fabio Cipparone everyone else, on 16-Mai-2005 at 11:58 you (Fabio Cipparone) wrote: I have just installed version 3.5 I was lurking around new options and have tried to load several themes. I would like to know if is normal that themes only modify the upper and lower part of the screen The menu appearance is altered with the different themes as well. (see image attached) Is that part of TB? Who would want to use these colours without being forced? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Fools rush in where fools have been before. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Opening a View Folder by pressing enter
Hello Marcus Ohlström everyone else, on 15-Mai-2005 at 20:45 you (Marcus Ohlström) wrote: But, this only works for regular folders, not for VFs. Confirmed here. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The past is gone; the present is full of confusion; and the future scares the hell out of me. -- David Lewis Stern Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Themes behaviour
Hello Fabio, Monday, May 16, 2005, 4:58:42 AM, you wrote: FC I have just installed version 3.5 FC I was lurking around new options and have tried to load several themes. FC I would like to know if is normal that themes only modify the upper and lower FC part of the screen (see image attached) Yes I have been wondering this as well. It would be nice to have the header bars change as well as scroll bars etc. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Themes behaviour
Hello Alexander, ASK Is that part of TB? Who would want to use these colours without being ASK forced? :-) yeah you are right I used that theme only to show better what I meant but the same happens with whatever theme you choose. it seems strange to me that only upper and lower part are modified with the new textures. Fabio Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Opening a View Folder by pressing enter
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 16:18, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But, this only works for regular folders, not for VFs. Confirmed here. 9Val has already un-greyed the Browse menu item, which I suppose will make this work the same for both types of folders. And this un-greying should, I suppose, let us customise the behaviour as well. He is quick, our beloved 9Val :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 16:10, Peter Meyns wrote:
I used to start the folder maintenance with a PowerPro script using
the keyboard shortcuts provided by The Bat!, so that the keystrokes
{alt}fa
pdc
{enter}
started to remove dupes and purge and compress all folders. This
doesn't work any more, because there isn't a shortcut for Maintenance
in 3.5 final. Is this intentional or has it only been lost? I'd love
to have it back.
It is lost customisation. There were no default shortcut in the older
versions either, you must have, just like me, assigned that shortcut
manually. Reassign and you will be fine (as long as focus is not on a
VF, but that should be fixed soon, if I understood my offline
conversation with 9Val correctly).
--
Regards,
Marcus Ohlström
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PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc
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Re: IMAP in 3.5
On Monday, May 16, 2005 @ 5:18:44 AM [-0700], Alto Speckhardt wrote: sarcastic attacks on TB! snipped I cannot confirm any of your issues. -- Matt Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
What is this?
Hello everyone, when the mouse is over an entry in the message list (pick any entry but NOT the selected entry), press the ALT key once. The menu message is activated (OK). Now, press the ALT key again. My mouse pointer changes into a hand with a pointing finger, and for a short moment the message under the mouse pointer is underlined. Whats that? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The Dumb Luck Rule: You can always hit what you don't aim at. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Window indices of The Bat! changed and not (yet?) translated
Hi all, in previous TB! versions I could use the PowerPro command win.childtextbyindex(The Bat!,3) to distinguish the English from the German interface. English returned Account specials while in German the page returned Konto-Sondereinstellungen. In version 3.5 final the return is For folder Popup in both languages. It is also the same for indices other than 3. Was it necessary to change these and is this supposed to stay this way, or is it just the translation lagging behind? I'd really like to have this distinction. Several of my PPro scripts rely on it, because the keyboard shortcuts are different in the two languages. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
--On 16 May 2005 13:51 +0100 Clive Taylor wrote about... Re: First Impressions: BTW I'm replying to this using Mulberry. Interesting to see if it does thread OK in view of your comments. Well I have no idea, I'm in the hands of the professionals... I get the impression from another source that it may have been the message I replied to, something about low or high level domains... It lost me to be honest. -- Tony. M. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Preview pane
After my weekly reboot, TB started without the message preview pane below the message list column. How can I get it back there? Can't find it in the Windows split mode options. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.5 under XP Pro, SP2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
Whats that? I've found that if you click your mouse while holding alt the message gets filtered (or rather all other messages are hidden). Hitting esc brings them all back. I don't see the point of this as it stands. -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 16:40, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: when the mouse is over an entry in the message list (pick any entry but NOT the selected entry), press the ALT key once. The menu message is activated (OK). Now, press the ALT key again. My mouse pointer changes into a hand with a pointing finger, and for a short moment the message under the mouse pointer is underlined. Whats that? Seems to be the same indicator as you get when you press ALT and, while holding ALT pressed, point to a message (you know you can filter out messages by alt-clicking them, don't you?). This clearly is a GUI glitch though, that hand should not show when doing as you have described. But to me this feels quite, well - to borrow an expression from MAU, 'not so important'... Now, at least, you know what it is. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
Hello Tony, Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:43:30 PM, you wrote: Well I have no idea, I'm in the hands of the professionals OK. If I thread messages in TB by reference only, my message and your reply don't attach themselves to the original thread BUT threading by reference + subject does thread them properly. I seem to recall some discussion about this but didn't take in the details at the time. -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: What is this?
Hello Clive, Monday, May 16, 2005, 9:45:52 AM, you wrote: CT I've found that if you click your mouse while holding alt the message CT gets filtered (or rather all other messages are hidden). Hitting esc brings CT them all back. I don't see the point of this as it stands. This is a strength, not a weakness. This is a quick filter. If you hold down the Alt key while selecting someones name in the From column you will get a list of messages only from that person. Or if you click on the subject whil holding the Alt key you will get all messages with that subject line. Further if you do a filter of this sort in one account it affects all accounts, so you can find all messages from Joe in every account you have. Very useful for multiple accounts. As far as the blue underlined highlight it just shows your selection, ie what will be filtered. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Preview pane
Hello Goos, Monday, May 16, 2005, 9:45:42 AM, you wrote: G After my weekly reboot, TB started without the message preview G pane below the message list column. How can I get it back there? G Can't find it in the Windows split mode options. Should be View/Window Split Mode/Full Height Account Tree. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
Hello Clive, Monday, May 16, 2005, 8:45:52 AM, you wrote: C I've found that if you click your mouse while holding alt the C message gets filtered (or rather all other messages are hidden). C Hitting esc brings them all back. I don't see the point of this as C it stands. The filtering? or the hand thing originally described. If you mean the filtering. I use it constantly for various things. 1. Certain people in my organization tend to forget things so I have my replies to them get copied into the folder with their message. At work, eveyone gets filtered into a folder (A-Z) by their first name, so all the Seans go in with the Senidas, Sams, Sarahs etc. So when I want to just limit my view to the Sams to show message threads when they forgot something I just Alt-Click Sam's name and all I'm left with is our conversations. 2. I get a lot of newsletters from various places. Sometimes I never get a chance to read them for a few weeks (some are daily newsletters), so I Alt-Click the name of the newsletter, highlight them all and press delete. It makes for a very quick way to get rid of messages from the inbox. 3. I am subscribed to multiple mailing lists, and the same thing happens where I don't get to read anything for a week, so I Alt-Click the first unread message in the folder, highlight them all, and then mark as read. You can right click a folder and mark the whole folder as read too, but I just prefer doing it this way. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: See - the thing is - I'm an absolutist. I mean, kind of ... in a way. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
Hi Marcus,
on Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:32 +0200GMT (16.05.2005, 16:28 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:
{alt}fa
pdc
{enter}
started to remove dupes and purge and compress all folders. This
doesn't work any more, because there isn't a shortcut for Maintenance
in 3.5 final. Is this intentional or has it only been lost? I'd love
to have it back.
MO It is lost customisation. There were no default shortcut in the older
MO versions either, you must have, just like me, assigned that shortcut
MO manually.
Really? I don't remember... hmm
MO Reassign and you will be fine (as long as focus is not on a
MO VF, but that should be fixed soon, if I understood my offline
MO conversation with 9Val correctly).
But where would I do that now? Menu View -- Toolbars -- Customise
let's me assign a shortcut, but that's a global one. I only need it in
the folder menu.
Besides, after assigning one and pressing OK, the View -- Toolbars
menu is shown empty. I used yesterday's backup of the TB! directory to
have the items shown again. It is probably only one file to be deleted
or changed, but I don't know yet which one.
--
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Peter
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Re: What is this?
The filtering? or the hand thing originally described. If you mean the filtering. I use it constantly for various things. I've been playing with this and I see what you mean now. What was confusing me was that filtering messages this way was only showing two threads or senders in each case until I realised that the message pane display bug was putting a large amount of white space at the end of the list - I hadn't noticed the scroll bars! -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
Hello Clive, Monday, May 16, 2005, 9:15:55 AM, you wrote: C I've been playing with this and I see what you mean now. What was C confusing me was that filtering messages this way was only showing C two threads or senders in each case until I realised that the C message pane display bug was putting a large amount of white space C at the end of the list - I hadn't noticed the scroll bars! A. So far I haven't run into that bug yet. grin -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Show confidence, computers sense fear or uncertainty. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 17:09, Peter Meyns wrote:
{alt}fa
pdc
{enter}
started to remove dupes and purge and compress all folders. This
doesn't work any more, because there isn't a shortcut for Maintenance
in 3.5 final. Is this intentional or has it only been lost? I'd love
to have it back.
MO It is lost customisation. There were no default shortcut in the older
MO versions either, you must have, just like me, assigned that shortcut
MO manually.
Really? I don't remember... hmm
My mistake, I misinterpreted you. You were obviously talking about
browsing the menus by the keyboard, I thought of a regular shortcut (in
my case, I use ctrl-alt-p to invoke the Maintenance Centre).
But where would I do that now? Menu View -- Toolbars -- Customise
let's me assign a shortcut, but that's a global one.
Yes, it will be global, but why can't you use a global one?
Besides, of course...
Besides, after assigning one and pressing OK, the View -- Toolbars
menu is shown empty. I used yesterday's backup of the TB! directory to
have the items shown again. It is probably only one file to be deleted
or changed, but I don't know yet which one.
...which I know nothing about. Sorry for adding more confusion instead
of clearing things up.
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Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hi Allie TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: thebat.exe Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? I'm using no plug-ins at all but am using IMAP, of course. Welcome to *my* world! The memory thing has always been a bugaboo of mine for all of v3, but I was once told it takes what it takes and I adopted the attitude Oh well... After coming out of hibernation and having about 12 hours on this boot cycle, I'm at 40 MB with AVG and BayesIt! and 8 accounts going, one of which is IMAP and all use only Micro-Ed (hurrah!) This 40 MB will grown eventually to maybe 80MB and will flucutate. Don't think we have a mem leak here, but just a feature. I would expect this with an application or database server, but not an email client. But alas, I am so very happy TB! has its house in order, I've overlooked this annoyance. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:09:46 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: MO It is lost customisation. There were no default shortcut in the MO older versions either, you must have, just like me, assigned that MO shortcut manually. Really? I don't remember... hmm Windows pull down menus normally have a letter underlined for each item, and hitting that letter gets one there the same as mouse point and click. TB used to do this, but in the new version many of those are gone. alt-f i, for instance, used to re-filter. now it doesn't just as alt-f a used to get one to maintenance. This is not customization wiping out created shortcuts, but rather departure from windows conventions. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
A. So far I haven't run into that bug yet. grin What's worse is that sometimes the scroll bars appear... and sometimes they don't. -- Regards, Clive Taylor Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 17:50, Dwight A Corrin wrote: alt-f i, for instance, used to re-filter. now it doesn't just as alt-f a used to get one to maintenance. This is not customization wiping out created shortcuts, but rather departure from windows conventions. Don't rub salt into my wounds, I know I misinterpreted him ;-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: What is this?
Hello Clive, Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:49:54 AM, you wrote: CT What's worse is that sometimes the scroll bars appear... and sometimes CT they don't. Yes this is a real pain. It is being tracked on the beta list and hopefully will be fixed soon. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
Hi Dwight, on Mon, 16 May 2005 10:50:20 -0500GMT (16.05.2005, 17:50 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MO It is lost customisation. There were no default shortcut in the MO older versions either, you must have, just like me, assigned that MO shortcut manually. Really? I don't remember... hmm DAC Windows pull down menus normally have a letter underlined for each DAC item, and hitting that letter gets one there the same as mouse point DAC and click. TB used to do this, but in the new version many of those DAC are gone. Exactly. That's what I meant. :-) DAC alt-f i, for instance, used to re-filter. now it doesn't It is marked with the f underlined, but then, there is New Common _F_older before in the menu, so this is chosen... DAC just as alt-f a used to get one to maintenance. That's the one I'm missing for my task. DAC This is not customization wiping out created shortcuts, but DAC rather departure from windows conventions. I hope it is an unforeseen bug that will be fixed soon. Can't be too hard, can it? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Preview pane
Hello Goos everyone else, on 16-Mai-2005 at 16:45 you (Goos) wrote: After my weekly reboot, TB started without the message preview pane below the message list column. How can I get it back there? Can't find it in the Windows split mode options. menu View | Message Auto-View should be enabled. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) God is not dead: He is alive and well and working on a much less ambitious project. -- Anonymous Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP in 3.5
Allie, You'respeakingoffoldersandI'mspeakingofAccounts.:) Also about a new message check where there are no new messages. One connection for each pop account and one for each imap folder that needs to be synchronized. Which in my case makes 7. Refreshing message header lists, moving messages to different folders in response to filters takes more. Iagreeaboutthefolderquery.I'mreferringtomultipleserver connectsforanaccount.Youcouldbemakingmultiplerequestsfora singleaccount. When there are new messages and filtering actions. Ithenopenafolderandselectamessage.Thisstuckinthequeueand hastowaititsturn.Ihave6connectionstotheserver.Twoarein use,andyetthemessagebodyrequesthastowaititsturn.This shouldn'tbe. Why is it that a dead query blocks everything behind it? I know I see it sometimes too. I delete the dead query from the Connection Center, and then the rest complete. Using the simple example I gave, a new message check with no new messages, I can see a difference in the time. So I think using more connections helps. Athomehere,thingshappensofast,Ican'tseewhat'shappeninginthe CC.Eventhoughthesamequeueingproblemmayexist,theconnection speedjustoverwhelmsandmasksthebasicproblem. I think part of it has to do with the capability of high speed connections. When downloading a set of files from a slow server, I have had as many as 10 files downloading all at once with no problem. Dialup is limited in speed, but also in bandwidth. So you can't have a lot of things going on at once. Even if TB has the requests out there, the dialup connection can't deal with them all at once. -- Gleason UsingTheBat!v3.5onWindowsXP5.1Build2600 ServicePack2PrimarilyusingtheFastmail IMAPserverwhichusesCyrus. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
Hello Marcus Ohlström everyone else, on 16-Mai-2005 at 16:51 you (Marcus Ohlström) wrote: Seems to be the same indicator as you get when you press ALT and, while holding ALT pressed, point to a message (you know you can filter out messages by alt-clicking them, don't you?). Yes I knew that, but I didn't see the connection. :-) This clearly is a GUI glitch though, that hand should not show when doing as you have described. But to me this feels quite, well - to borrow an expression from MAU, 'not so important'... Now that I've been reminded of what it is, I don't even think its a bug or a glitch. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) There is nothing new except what has been forgotten. -- Attributed to Marie Antionette's milliner Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No more shortcut for maintenance in folder menu
Hi Marcus, on Mon, 16 May 2005 17:53:03 +0200GMT (16.05.2005, 17:53 +0200GMT here), you wrote: alt-f i, for instance, used to re-filter... MO Don't rub salt into my wounds, I know I misinterpreted him ;-) You did, but that's no reason at all to feel wounded. :)) -- Cheers Peter Fer sall chiep: bran nu spel chekker - nevur usd! Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.5 crashes
Hi, The new interface is slower, yes, it crashes more often with and without one or more messages (we truly have every flavour here!) MM what crashes You are talking about? Not all are that easy to pinpoint: 1.) We already talked about the (single) AV when save view mode - yes after modification of columns and a folder change. This, as I already described, can grow into a cascading Division by zero. 2.) Today I pressed get mail, saw the CC starting and turned away. When I looked back (a few seconds later), TheBat was completly gone, no CC nor main program, not even an error message. 3.) On experimenting with the IMAP fine-tune parameters I pressed get mail, saw that it was getting me nowhere and pressed abort all tasks a little later. Then I went back, modified the IMAP settings and tried again. At the second abort there was an AV, but TheBat was still there (CC wasn't). I continued, and with the next abort an AV apeared, this time taking TheBat with it. If it's of constructive interest to you or anyone else I'll start logging the different crashes I see in the future. -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgppgLQUlB8JY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP in 3.5
Hi, MT sarcastic attacks on TB! snipped You can hardly fault me for it, can you? I do think I tried everything else. MT I cannot confirm any of your issues. It seems to me that I'm using a whole different program than you are. The performance I'm experiencing is loads different from what you all are talking about. Where you are positivly content (meaning not really enthusiastic, but basicly satisfied) and seeing no major bugs, none that prohibit work in any case, I plainly can't use v3.5. It is so terrible I did not dare to put it ony main machine instead of my test machine yet. v3.01 had its bugs, but they were mainly stable bugs. In v3.5 not even the bugs themselves are stable. Yet, I had tried the beta (number 20 it was, I believe) on more than one machine and it showed most bugs even then, so it should be neither a problem with my single machine nor with the download. I also don't imagine that I'm the only one using a ISDN connection and there are other GMX-users as well. I simply don't see any viable difference between my system and yours, which makes it very hard for me to concede that there may be working installations of v3.5, even if you can report such. -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp1LpY1xQpUt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
VF and mailticker: again this message from Dec 31, 1899
Hi all, I have a virtual folder that shows messages from or replied to myself. Whenever there is a new message and I select the folder, the mailticker appears with one message dated Dec 31, 1899, size -1b. It goes away when I leave the VF and go back again. I saw this in previous versions, so it's not too surprising or annoying for me, but certainly it isn't right. And it may be confusing to new users... ;-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM attachment: ticker1899.png Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
Hello Alexander, Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:40:02 PM, you wrote: Hello everyone, when the mouse is over an entry in the message list (pick any entry but NOT the selected entry), press the ALT key once. The menu message is activated (OK). Now, press the ALT key again. My mouse pointer changes into a hand with a pointing finger, and for a short moment the message under the mouse pointer is underlined. Whats that? Must be my laptop but I don't see it :cry: Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone Vodafone +353879120530 Winamp is stopped smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filter on VF created from Search tool is wrong
Hello Natasha, Hope you don't mind being a test subject. :) I don't mind being a 'test', but maybe I mind being a 'subject' ;-) 3. VF appears only after restart of TB!. 4. VF shows as empty. 5. Remove unwanted conditions from VF. Results match folder contents. I was almost sure something like that would happen. Have added a note to your report. Thanks for that :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Small Keyboard-Issue with Move Message(s) To Folder Dialogue
Hello Carsten, Thanks for this hint! :-) A beer, you owe me a beer ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 Final new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Peter, No luck after a reboot either. Well, I guess I don't get a beer this time :-( Sorry, I can't think of anything else. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Next Beta Series Request
Hello The, M You can already select different colour for M odd/even quotes, it has been M that way for many many moons. For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-) M Ah, I see. The background, you guys were talking about background. ThunderBird has this feature with an extention This is very useful when there is many reply to the same email I didn't know, I never even tried ThunderBird. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
Hello Peter, Monday, May 16, 2005, 11:55:00 AM, you wrote: Hello Marcus Ohlström, on Mon, 16 May 2005 12:50:42 +0200 (2005-05-16 12:50:42 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [MO] wrote (at least in part): MO Can't find any batskin.xml at my system, are you sure this wasn't a MO beta/RC feature only? Any ideas how to make the icons smaller using MO the release version? MO Should I create batskin.xml and if so, where and what should it contain? http://ouwehand.net/~thebat/309nn/35Final/batskin.xml Thanks, that is great Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone Vodafone +353879120530 Winamp is stopped smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
Hello Clive, I've found that if you click your mouse while holding alt the message gets filtered (or rather all other messages are hidden). Hitting esc brings them all back. I don't see the point of this as it stands. It is a very useful feature of TB. You can very quickly filter on almost any of the columns you are displaying. So you can filter by Subject From, To, Read/Unread, Flagged/Un-flagged, Keep, With/Without attachments, on Received or Created date or time (if today), etc. Certainly very useful and quick. At least for me. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
--On 16 May 2005 13:06 +0100 Clive Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mulberry messages always thread OK in TB here. Just testing really. Completely uninstalled and reinstalled again to see if I can sort this threading discrepancy out. Well, has it? -- Tony. M. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC9 Pro lost trash items
Hello Matt, Sure it's a bad habit, but for I've been using the trash bin as a placeholder for e-mail for 9 years. It certainly takes all kinds of people to make the world ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: IMAP in 3.5
Hello Alto, On 16 May 2005, 13:18 you wrote: Here it's worse then ever before. With v3.01, the connection would block at the start and resume after a few minutes of thinking (not transfering anything as evident from a line monitor). Now, I can have ten connections sitting there and not starting at all. Right now e.g. we have 15 minutes and counting. (Addendum: We are now at 20 minutes and counting.) You forgot to turn on your modem again? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Example moves the world more than doctrine. HENRY MILLER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC9 Pro lost trash items
Hi Matt, In the message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which was apparently written on Friday, May 13, 2005, 7:14:36 PM. I believe you wrote: MT Just noticed that the .msi Pro installation completely wiped out my MT deleted items/Trash folder. I had about 20k emails in there too. MT It's certainly my fault for not backing up, just want to warn others. I have some sympathy as it did something unplanned, however, hopefully this will have made you do exactly what I did which was make a backup folder which I dump everything in after a while. So, god forbid you do hit that yeah delete my life I didnt want it anyway button... the world should keep revolving -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Weird lack of threading
Hello, I have two people with whom I correspond who use BT Internet in the UK. for some reason, none of their replies thread even though they have the same subject, they always arrive as new messages. Is there anyone else in the UK who has the same problems with email from BT Internet? -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird lack of threading
Hi Richard, In the message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which was apparently written on Monday, May 16, 2005, 7:36:55 PM. I believe you wrote: RW I have two people with whom I correspond who use BT Internet in the UK. RW for some reason, none of their replies thread even though they have the RW same subject, they always arrive as new messages. RW Is there anyone else in the UK who has the same problems with email from RW BT Internet? Have you checked for references in the headers? It could be the headers have been consumed by the wonderfulness that is.. bt -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird lack of threading
--On 16 May 2005 20:36 +0200 Richard Wakeford wrote about... Weird lack of threading: Is there anyone else in the UK who has the same problems with email from BT Internet? All of them, that's why I dumped BT for NTL. -- Tony. M. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Small Keyboard-Issue with Move Message(s) To Folder Dialogue
Hallo MAU, hiermit antworte ich auf die Nachricht vom 16.05.2005 (19:59 Uhr): Thanks for this hint! :-) M A beer, you owe me a beer ;-) Agreed! Just come and visit me in Oldenburg (located in Niedersachsen). ;-) -- Best regards, Carsten Using The Bat! 3.5 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Miroslav Florensen On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 12:18:25 PM +0400 GMT You wrote: MF Hello tbbeta, MF the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is completely rearranged, MF and now completely adapted to the new GUI in MF version v3.5. The icon set MF is optimized and tested for Win98 SE, Win2k and WinXP. (no stages on MF Win98/w2k) MF If you would like to try them, please take a look at the readme file MF before installing the icon set. MF enjoy... MF Preview: http://bat-mail.de.vu/minimal.html MF Download [132 KB]: MF http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v335.zip I like the original 2.11 3d icons so much and that is something I miss the most from 3.2.0.10 version Is it possible to still use the glyphs for any ways? thanks - -- The Final Cut Have become comfortably numb.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1rc2 (MingW32) Comment: Key: http://finalcut.ca/finalcut.asc iD8DBQFCiOgZkKh3IiDTK9ARAkHJAJ0YAg1Eksc1opa7WKJQoX/aG+t0BACfR65V jiezr6Da/Y4BVOePn0IR8YU= =Y7A7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Icon problem with v3.5 - transparency gone?
Hello Mary, 9Val contacted me personally. This is great. We are going to fix this not before Monday. ;) We have to start a public collection to erect a monument to 9Val and other RIT guys ;-) MB Confirmed. ;) MB A more responsive group cannot be imagined! And for those who do not want to wait for the fix, a work-around proposed by Fredrik Bergström on TBUDL, and that worked for me too: lower the hardware acceleration in Display Properties / Advanced / Troubleshoot one step and the black disappears. But that is still a work-around, and I still wait for a fix from Ritlabs. And then, I will have a lovely e-mail client ! -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ |\_\ `` .- \ _/| | _\___. | | / \ | |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 3.5 s/n 9360592E Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Small Keyboard-Issue with Move Message(s) To Folder Dialogue
Hello Carsten, Just come and visit me in Oldenburg (located in Niedersachsen). ;-) In the morning or in the evening? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
