Re: SOT: Use of Smilies (Was: Webmail, that threads correctly)
--On 2/07/2005 22:55 +0300 Avi wrote: Clive, it seems that your position is a bit extreme for me. Well, perhaps I put my case a little too starkly! I don't actually object to the occasional use of smilies at the end of a paragraph or message to indicate mood but I do find it quite offensive (irrational, I know) to have to navigate through a sea of :junk: :pop: :wow: :giraffe: rubbish: pantechnicon: random characters that sometimes make messages quite difficult to follow, particularly when reading and replying to them from outside of TB! where, of course they have no meaning at all except to convince the recipient of your message that you have suffered some form of brain slippage. I did ask the question in this list some time ago about whether it was possible to filter out these :excrescences: at source with some form of scripting - but I think this could be difficult. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: address book AVs
Hello Gary everyone else, on 02-Jul-2005 at 19:13 you (Gary) wrote: A Since you're talking of templates, did you mean an address book group A maybe? no, just double click on the new (or any address really), and I go to the new message and reply tabs to enter and put in new templates for these. I use these for most of my addresses, versus a QT. I mostly use AB group templates. In addition, my existing new and reply templates in my personal address book for Allie, off list, which I have used for years, does not work currently, and nothing has changed. I just tried that with one of the view addresses in my AB that have their individual template (my girlfriend's:-) and its working correctly. When I added a new address manually, made my templates, and hit esc to get out, I got the cascading AVs. Very odd indeed. Is the AB maybe imported from a CD backup or something, and the file itself has the wrong access settings, is write protected, or something? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) History contains no facts but those that are the most thoroughly improbable from the standpoint of probability theory. -- Stanislaw Lem Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Autoreply filter - possible bug?
Hi Roelof, As it says in my sig: pop3 ;-) Oops, didn't check the sig but will next time. Does it matter whether you use in the filter options: Send message: according to account settings/ immediately/ queue in outbox Haven't tried that one yet. Are you using a local or a remote outbox, from the imap discussions I've gathered that that causes different behaviour. Have tried it both ways. No luck. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it
Hello Allie, It probably does. But I don't wish to go through another cycle of having to delete the file and reconfigure all my shortcuts etc. Just rename it for a quick test. You're right. It's tbuser.def You know about beers, don't you? It's quite hot here today ;-) It's proving to be quite an easily corrupted file. I wouldn't say it is 'corrupted', just not updated properly. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it
Hello Allie, Just rename it for a quick test. After some reshuffling around, I managed to make it stick where I want it. If not, manually editing tbuser.def can do wonders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Selective download, Manual filter only
Hello Vili, Bug or overlooked not needed tick box. It is not needed because when you do a manual re-filter, Selective Download Filters are not available. I thought the same. Then I will make my first bug report today :) It will be easy to fix :) I'll add a note if you post the link. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Draft Folder
Hello David, Ok there did this come from. I have now got a [Draft] folder but only on one of my accounts. If it is named [Draft], with the brackets, it is a Virtual Folder and I wouldn't think it was spontaneously created by TB. I think that you are right and I think it was me a few months back. Great! Another cold beer for a quite hot day ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Autoreply filter - possible bug?
Hi Roelof, I need to make a change to my previous answer. I never thought of looking in the Outbox since the mail had been sent. No counters ever changed and there was no indication that any mail was in that folder. I happened to check it and a copy of the sent mail is visible in the local Outbox, but it's still not moved to the sent folder. Using the remote Outbox, a copy of the mail can be found if you browse the deleted messages. Still not moved to the sent folder. So bottom line is that it's just not being moved to the sent folder. Ah well Time to add these notes to my bug report. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it
On Sunday, July 03, 2005 at 4:02:27 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: It's proving to be quite an easily corrupted file. I wouldn't say it is 'corrupted', just not updated properly. ... while a new one is updated just fine. Now why isn't the old one being updated properly. There's a problem with it = corruption, though minor. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Einstein Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it
Hello Peter, After having a closer look at it, it appears you've made more changes to it than just the ToolbarIcons size definition. Yes. A lot of different modifications, specially only for the minimal glyph set. - use an icons folder beneath - use a specific folder beneath to hold a specific icons set and batskin.xml You can make this modifications also, but I will consider it for the next revision of the minimal set. bitmap id=3 file=MySubFolderName/minimal.png ... bitmap id=4 file=MySubFolderName/minimal-small.png ... - tb-directory\icons\GlyphCollection.png (is this really needed ?) - tb-directory\icons\HtmlEditorIcons.png (is this really needed ?) Yes. If these entries are missing, all icons of the the internal pictures are loaded. These pictures were partly also modified - not all icons of the original pictures are used. My changed code for this pictures must be thus also loaded. - tb-directory\icons\minimal\Batskin.xml This is not possible. There are two places where TB searches for the 'Batskin.xml': In the same folder as the 'thebat.exe' located and in the sub folder BMPS. Unfortunately the 'Batlogo.xml' must be in the same folder as the 'thebat.exe' located. I considered it better, to copy the two XML files at a place. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder
Hi Allie! likely to wait while watching a counter. While waiting without feedback, each second is like 2 seconds. :) I found another way, which was relatively fast: First I sync'ed the folder with full messages and then I simply selected all and moved them to my local folder. That's it. (Took around 30 min.) -- Bis denne dann, Raymund Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Base damaged
Hi all, on a TheBat installation that I service all the mails in the INBOX vanished at some time during the last days. (Of course, the user did nothing at the time. ;-) ) When I looked at the directory there was a large (about 15 MB which could very well be the size of the now gone messages) file named PART001.BIN. I therefore assume that TheBat presented the error message base damaged, repair now?, the user clicked on Yes and TheBat reconstructed the folder while dumping the messages not back into it but only leaving it in this file. So: 1.) The used version of TheBat is v3.0.1.33. Are such occurences (mailbase disruption without aparent reason, repair of folder by deleting messages) known in this version, and if so, has this behaviour been improved up until the current v3.5? 2.) Is there any possibility short of disecting PART001.BIN using a hex editor to salvage the messages that might still be in there? 3.) Is it possible to disable this warning message and subsequently the repair function? I'd much rather have TheBat just quit until I can come by and have a look on the case then allow the user to perform an action with uncertain results. Any advice would be much apreciated. -- MfG, Alto mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0R2b3vVCQm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP don'ts to get things working better
Hello Allie, Saturday, July 2, 2005, 11:22:03 PM, you wrote: I must say I'd sure rather make my filters in TB! than the clunky HTML interface at fastmail. FastMail supports Seive scripting. It's a special filtering script. Instead of using the filter creation interface, you can create your own seive script. This is the URL the details the scripting language: http://www.cyrusoft.com/sieve/ Mulberry supports the ability to create filters using a GUI type interface and then generating a script from it. I then copy/paste the script in the FastMail script editing field. Works well. This is good. Maybe there is some way I'm missing to do a few other server side message management functions? I would like to be able to flag messages. For example, Friday I flagged a couple of messages to do a feature request re editing incoming mail. I'm stuck in a hotel this morning with no way to find the flags. (I'm also realizing late that letting POP go means winning that argument might help POP users bit not me). I would like to be able to delete the HTML component of messages and have it stick. Most important, I would like to be able to PARK messages at the server level. It does no good to park a message at the office, then a week later clean up your folders at home or while you are killing time in a hotel. -- Best regards, Dwightmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Network and Administration
Hi all, on Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:45:55 +0200GMT, I wrote: PM in Options -- Network and Administration I cannot change anything (see PM attachment). Clicking ok on the AV window leaves the cursor as the PM hourglass, but I can click Cancel anyway, and TB! moves on fine. It happens on my main machine too. Would anyone mind to try to change dial-up to local area or vice versa? It always produces an AV here on both machines with different addresses. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.36 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Base damaged
Hallo Alto, On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:02:14 +0200GMT (3-7-2005, 15:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AS 1.) The used version of TheBat is v3.0.1.33. Are such occurences AS (mailbase disruption without aparent reason, repair of folder by AS deleting messages) known in this version, and if so, has this AS behaviour been improved up until the current v3.5? It's not very common for any version to have the message base corrupted, not even for v3.0.1.33. AS 2.) Is there any possibility short of disecting PART001.BIN using a AS hex editor to salvage the messages that might still be in there? You wouldn't need a hex editor as important parts of the file should be plain text. My first try would be to copy the file to another folder, rename it to messages.tbb and see whether the contents can be imported. AS 3.) Is it possible to disable this warning message and subsequently AS the repair function? I'd much rather have TheBat just quit until I can Dunno. -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.5.36 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp452tzhZ5xl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Network and Administration
Hello Peter! On Sunday, July 03, 2005, 9:01 AM, you wrote: PM in Options -- Network and Administration I cannot change anything (see PM attachment). Clicking ok on the AV window leaves the cursor as the PM hourglass, but I can click Cancel anyway, and TB! moves on fine. It happens on my main machine too. Would anyone mind to try to change dial-up to local area or vice versa? It always produces an AV here on both machines with different addresses. To change from LAN to Dial-up is grayed-out for me. However, I changed from TCP/IP setting to non-TCP/IP and back again, with no access violation notification occurring. I'm on broadband, with the configuration so set in Windows XP. Maybe that's why the dial-up option is grayed-out for me? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Network and Administration
Hi Mary, on Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:14:45 -0500GMT (03.07.2005, 16:14 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PM in Options -- Network and Administration I cannot change anything (see PM attachment). Clicking ok on the AV window leaves the cursor as the PM hourglass, but I can click Cancel anyway, and TB! moves on fine. It happens on my main machine too. Would anyone mind to try to change dial-up to local area or vice versa? It always produces an AV here on both machines with different addresses. MB To change from LAN to Dial-up is grayed-out for me. Not here, because the options exist. MB However, I changed from TCP/IP setting to non-TCP/IP and back again, MB with no access violation notification occurring. Thank you for testing Mary. :-) MB I'm on broadband, with the configuration so set in Windows XP. Maybe MB that's why the dial-up option is grayed-out for me? This may be the case. I'm on dial-up via DSL, or, in case I need it, via 56k modem. This doesn't represent an acute problem, because I can establish the connection first, and after that use The Bat! as usual. Still, I'd like to be able to change the settings, particularly for the notebook. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.36 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Base damaged
Hello Alto, There was a similar case on TBUDL once, I wrote this to him/her: This is what you have to do: - _copy_ (dont move) the PART0001.BIN to somewhere, just to have a backup - make a new folder in TB! - rename PART0001.BIN to PART0001.TBB - import the mails from PART0001.TBB using Tools, Import messages, TBB files. Enjoy your mails. (Move the mails wherever you want, organize them, etc.) These BIN files are created when TBB files are compressed, PART0001, PART0002, etc. Answers for your other question: 1.) The used version of TheBat is v3.0.1.33. Are such occurences (mailbase disruption without aparent reason, repair of folder by deleting messages) known in this version, and if so, has this behaviour been improved up until the current v3.5? Yes, corruption of Inbox message base occurred sometimes. Low system resources and/or Win shutdown TB! on exit before that would compress its mails when Compress at exit is checked. So, UNCHECK all of your Inboxes' Compress on exit options... After I suggested this to my users, NO ONE reported corrupted message base again. Somewhere in the v3.5.x series we were told that they found a bug in this part of the code. Hopefully, no more corruption will happen. 2.) Is there any possibility short of disecting PART001.BIN using a hex editor to salvage the messages that might still be in there? See above. 3.) Is it possible to disable this warning message and subsequently the repair function? I'd much rather have TheBat just quit until I can come by and have a look on the case then allow the user to perform an action with uncertain results. I dont think so. I know only one hardware setting :) for it: tell the users, if this happens DONT DO anything... -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Network and Administration
Hello Peter! On Sunday, July 03, 2005, 9:35 AM, you wrote: This doesn't represent an acute problem, because I can establish the connection first, and after that use The Bat! as usual. Still, I'd like to be able to change the settings, particularly for the notebook. Perhaps more technically knowledgeable people than I am, will be able to give you further help with this. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Vili's Mails not threaded
--On 30 June 2005 19:40:47 +0200 Martin Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to point my finger at Vili ;-) but do you others also get his mails not threading? His mail always threads fine here. -- Tony. i. Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better
On Sunday, July 03, 2005 at 8:41:34 AM [GMT -0500], Dwight A Corrin wrote: Maybe there is some way I'm missing to do a few other server side message management functions? Nope. A lot of what you can do to messages in TB! are just POP stuff which may be done only to the local cache copies of messages or the local cache of the message list. These changes cannot be stored server side since they aren't supported server side. I would like to be able to flag messages. There are standard flags that are supported server side and that will be seen by other clients. These are read, unread, priority, replied, forwarded, important. Some servers, like Cyrus IMAP also support non-standard flags that are configurable. Mulberry supports these non-standard flag options that allows for colour labelling of messages. TB!'s parking and flagging are not standard. I think TB! already will use a non-standard server flag for it's own flagging, so you'll see the flagging retained across different TB! installations. However, you'll not be able to appreciate the flags when using other clients like ThunderBird or Mulberry. I would like to be able to delete the HTML component of messages and have it stick. I haven't tried to do this, but I think when you delete the HTML component, you're deleting the HTML component from the cached copy of the message and not the copy on the server. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- Worry : The interest paid on trouble before it's due Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder
On Sunday, July 03, 2005 at 7:12:03 AM [GMT -0500], Raymund Tump wrote: I found another way, which was relatively fast: First I sync'ed the folder with full messages and then I simply selected all and moved them to my local folder. That's it. (Took around 30 min.) I'll keep that tip in mind. Thanks. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- No good deed goes unpunished - Clare Booth Luce Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder
Hi Allie! I found another way, which was relatively fast: First I sync'ed the folder with full messages and then I simply selected all and moved them to my local folder. That's it. (Took around 30 min.) I'll keep that tip in mind. Thanks. Maybe I laughed too early. The messages are still on the IMAP server... I'm now trying to delete them, which is a bit difficult, as out of a sudden TB! began to use a lot of memory. At it best times it needed 1.4 GB memory. After purging the local folder and deleting the IMAP caches everything's fine again. Except for the mails still on the server. -- Regards, Raymund Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.36
--On 1 July 2005 14:16:27 +0300 Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [-] IMAP connections could hang Still do! Tried 36 and very first message... No Message Loaded. Went for a bath, made a cup of tea, cooked spaghetti bolognese, cut the grass, washed and polished the car, repointed the chimney stack and when I came back the very same message wasn't loaded still? -- Tony. i. Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Vili's Mails not threaded
--On 3 July 2005 16:47:07 +0100 Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His mail always threads fine here. I lied, they used to but I found a few that don't. -- Tony. i. Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.36
--On 3/07/2005 19:46 +0100 Tony wrote: Went for a bath, made a cup of tea, etc etc Me too, except I grew a beard as well. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]
Hello Tony and Clive, and others interested in IMAP! On Sunday, July 03, 2005, 1:46 PM, Tony wrote: Tried 36 and very first message... No Message Loaded. Went for a bath, made a cup of tea, cooked spaghetti bolognese, cut the grass, washed and polished the car, repointed the chimney stack and when I came back the very same message wasn't loaded still? And then Clive said: Me too, except I grew a beard as well. So, just to add to the mix: Please see Allie's fine comments on dealing with this, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]
--On 3/07/2005 14:39 -0500 Mary wrote: Please see Allie's fine comments on dealing with this Unfortunately, that doesn't help although we're using the same version and same IMAP server (as Tony is). -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]
Hello Clive! On Sunday, July 03, 2005, 2:45 PM, you wrote: Please see Allie's fine comments on dealing with this Unfortunately, that doesn't help although we're using the same version and same IMAP server (as Tony is). So, wait for a response from 9Val, when he may (one can hope) come back on board the list tomorrow? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.36
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CT --On 3/07/2005 19:46 +0100 Tony wrote: Went for a bath, made a cup of tea, etc etc CT Me too, except I grew a beard as well. I wonder if everybody considers this new beta as a major improvement over the previous beta and the current official release. I didn't saw any major complaint though IMAP and EXCHANGE support are still broken. IMHO, an .msi could be done using this version to replace beta 30 (that, is the current official release, FAIK). -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't be afraid to ask... Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.36
Hello Goncalo! On Sunday, July 03, 2005, 2:50 PM, you wrote: IMHO, an .msi could be done using this version to replace beta 30 (that, is the current official release, FAIK). I would have no objections. It is working as well (in POP3) --or better--for me as any version I've used, since my favorite 3.2.10. It is better than beta 30, which is the current 3.5 download on the public page. We could test an .msi, and when it's working well, RL might want to put this version as the one that v. 3.5 supplies from the public page download offering. Meanwhile, work could continue to address the problems in IMAP and Exchange. Does it sound like a plan? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Network and Administration
Hello Peter, Confirmed here, Windows 2000 and has been happening since at least v3.5.31. Could this be a problem that only occurs on Windows 2000? I use version 2.12 on my desktop (Windows XP), no problems with that, and I was able to export these registry settings for the dial-up and import this into the Windows 2000 machine. This AV is annoying because it means having to edit the registry to change settings from LAN to dialup, not ideal for automatic periodic checking! On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:35:00 +0200 you wrote: Hi Mary, on Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:14:45 -0500GMT (03.07.2005, 16:14 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PM in Options -- Network and Administration I PM cannot change anything (see PM attachment). Clicking ok on the AV window PM leaves the cursor as the PM hourglass, but I can click Cancel anyway, and PM TB! moves on fine. It happens on my main machine too. Would anyone mind to try to change dial-up to local area or vice versa? It always produces an AV here on both machines with different addresses. MB To change from LAN to Dial-up is grayed-out for me. Not here, because the options exist. MB However, I changed from TCP/IP setting to MB non-TCP/IP and back again, MB with no access violation notification occurring. Thank you for testing Mary. :-) MB I'm on broadband, with the configuration so set in MB Windows XP. Maybe MB that's why the dial-up option is grayed-out for me? This may be the case. I'm on dial-up via DSL, or, in case I need it, via 56k modem. This doesn't represent an acute problem, because I can establish the connection first, and after that use The Bat! as usual. Still, I'd like to be able to change the settings, particularly for the notebook. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.5.36 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM -- Best regards, Doc W mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it
Hello Allie, ... while a new one is updated just fine. Now why isn't the old one being updated properly. That's the big question for the programmers. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Top posting (was: AV in Network and Administration)
Hallo cmwilliams, On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:06 +0100GMT (3-7-2005, 22:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C change settings from LAN to dialup, not ideal for automatic periodic checking! C On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:35:00 +0200 you wrote: C Hi Mary, C on Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:14:45 -0500GMT (03.07.2005, 16:14 C +0200GMT here), moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out cmwilliams. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #1: If you can't beat 'em, BAN 'em! pgpnKUbOTpwcH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail
On Sat 2-Jul-05 11:39am -0500, Roelof Otten wrote: According to RFC2822 (and that's the law concerning e-mails) a message should contain the sender's address in the From header and when that's not the case the Resent-From or the Sender header should be present. When this causes filtering problems, you've got to adapt your filters. Yes, I am aware of the rules. Rules are made to be broken - when you are breaking those rules for non- malicious reasons :-) -- Best regards, Bill The Bat 3.5.36 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it
On Sat 2-Jul-05 5:52am -0500, Miroslav Florensen wrote: Works just fine here, see attachment. you used the wrong PNG file. For 16x16, you need only the file 'minimal-small.png' instead of 'minimal.png' and naturally the appropriate XML file - see [1]. Is the guidance (readme.txt) unclearly written? Miroslav, Thanks for providing all this information. I downloaded your zip file and am currently only using the Batskin.xlm from the 16x16 directory. It shrinks TB!'s own icons so they all fit to the right of the menu with plenty of room to spare should I add any custom stuff. This maximizes by screen real estate nicely! -- Best regards, Bill The Bat 3.5.36 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: 3.5.36
--On 3/07/2005 20:50 +0100 Goncalo wrote: I didn't saw any major complaint though IMAP and EXCHANGE support are still broken. Isn't that enough to complain about? -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
