Reply function simplification
Hello everyone, we've just been talking on TBUDL about this, and I wanted to bring this wish to public attention again: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2486 Its about automatic quoting only selected text if text is highlighted. This would simplify the reply function a lot, as only two menu entries, keyboard shortcuts etc. would be needed - reply and reply to all. Everything else with ...quoting selected text would not be needed any more. As I said on TBUDL, this would be more natural in a natural email system... IMVHO. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our scientific efforts to make things right sometimes seem like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. (W. Norman MacFarlane) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Reply to address
Hi TB Beta list members, Reply to sender and reply to this address is not working at all for me. Is anyone else seeing this? If I pick a message from a mailing list and ask to reply to sender, I get a reply to the list. If I right click on any address in the header or the body, and pick Reply to this address I get a message to the list. No, of course I don't use folder templates!!! I make extensive use of AB templates and have quite a sophisticated message formatting default template. I can imagine the macros in my reply template kicking in and overriding the address I have chosen by basing their work on the default message reply address. It's because the TO address isn't set before the reply macros start working. This is a pretty bad bug actually. Any confirmations? Any previous reports / BugTraq entries I've missed? -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgppfFJEFpJDC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
Hello Marck, If I pick a message from a mailing list and ask to reply to sender, I get a reply to the list. If I right click on any address in the header or the body, and pick Reply to this address I get a message to the list. No, of course I don't use folder templates!!! As you should have seen by PM just sent, I am sorry but I can't confirm this. Works here as expected. And I do use folder templates :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
Dear Miguel, @9-Jul-2005, 12:16 +0200 (09-Jul 11:16 UK time) MAU [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: If I pick a message from a mailing list and ask to reply to sender, I get a reply to the list. If I right click on any address in the header or the body, and pick Reply to this address I get a message to the list. MAU As you should have seen by PM just sent, I am sorry but I can't confirm MAU this. Works here as expected. And I do use folder templates :) Okay - you have snipped the second part - the real part - where I explain that any manipulation of the TO address requires an address to be available that simply isn't at a macro level when you choose to reply by one of these methods. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp7IDBUWM91W.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 10:16:23 [UTC+0100] (Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:16 my local time) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Reply to sender and reply to this address is not working at all for me. Is anyone else seeing this? No, I cannot confirm this. Like you, I also use different sets of complex macros in AB templates, and my default template have %If macro to select appropriate quick template on the base of To address. I don't use folder templates at all. Both Reply to sender and Reply to this address are working in all folders on all my accounts. I don't know how to reproduce the bug described in your message. It seems that To field is set correctly, unless I have omitted something. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.51 in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
Hallo Marck, On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:16:23 +0100GMT (9-7-2005, 11:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MDP Reply to sender and reply to this address is not working at all for MDP me. Is anyone else seeing this? Can't confirm, both are working fine for me. With this exception that pressing Ctrl+F4 (the default shortcut for this function with the folder pane in focus) doesn't do anything at all, so I've got to use the mouse. MDP If I pick a message from a mailing list and ask to reply to sender, I MDP get a reply to the list. If I right click on any address in the header MDP or the body, and pick Reply to this address I get a message to the MDP list. I had the same for a while, buggered me quite a bit, until I found out that I had this folder template that had some fancy formatting: %To=%To='%OFromName on %OReplyTo'%- The silly thing was that it never got triggered, since I was using AB templates for that list, but then I never tried to PM from a list message. And then I tried it. MDP No, of course I don't use folder templates!!! That's what I said too. MDP I make extensive use of AB templates and have quite a sophisticated MDP message formatting default template. I can imagine the macros in my MDP reply template kicking in and overriding the address I have chosen by MDP basing their work on the default message reply address. When the address(es) you're replying to is/are in your AB you could check whether you've got some reference to the Reply-To header. -- Groetjes, Roelof The usual reward for saving the world is the chance to do it again. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpxQ9zdLPTgT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
Dear Roelof, @9-Jul-2005, 14:00 +0200 (09-Jul 13:00 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: RO I had the same for a while, buggered me quite a bit, until I found out RO that I had this folder template that had some fancy formatting: RO %To=%To='%OFromName on %OReplyTo'%- As I wrote offlist to Miguel, I can make it work if I sacrifice my ability to call people by their correct name with this macro: ,--/ ABN \-- %TO=%TO='%ABofromCompany(%ABofromNAME(%OFROMNAME)) %- %QINCLUDE(RepAddr)' `--\ End /-- ,--/ RepAddr \-- %if:%OREPLYADDR:%OREPLYADDR:%OFROMADDR%- `--\ End /-- This is what messes with me. And it shouldn't. What I know is that %FROMADDR is the main problem here. It used to be %TOADDR. That what the *real* issue is - there is no such value. Because of the changes made to template evaluation sequence order in v2, TOADDR is not set at the time of running the macros so you don't have the option to say don't set the address. ... snip RO When the address(es) you're replying to is/are in your AB you RO could check whether you've got some reference to the Reply-To RO header. It's, to a degree, self inflicted. But it's not right that I can't do what I'm intending to do here... -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpue68JYSjZo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30
Hi Everyone! A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, I wrote something along the lines of... anyone have a handy macro to quote one message but reply to the initiator of the thread to which it belongs? Well, no-one did, and I said I might have a bash at creating one. Now I find myself totally unable to sleep after a very long and very entertaining work day, and what should spring to mind but that exact rash promise. So here, for your edification and entertainment, is my little system for doing just this. I've tested it using 3.51 Pro on XP on list and non-list messages, and it seems to work just fine. To achieve best results - OK, any results at all - you'll need all the following macros. =[ Begin PlainThreadTopMID ]= %REM='Returns the MID of the first message in the thread in a format suitable for entry in a header field' %REM='Created on 2005-07-09' %- %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(.*?)'%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%oheader(References)'%- %SUBPATT='1'%- %- =[ End PlainThreadTopMID ]= =[ Begin QuoteMIDOfQuotedMessage ]= %REM='Returns the MID of the message from which text is quoted in a format suitable for quoting in the body of a message' mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=;(.*)%REGEXPMATCH=%OMSGID%- =[ End QuoteMIDOfQuotedMessage ]= =[ Begin QuoteThreadTopMID ]= %REM='Returns the MID of the first message in the thread in a format suitable for quoting in the body of a message' mid:%- %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(.*?)'%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%oheader(References)'%- %SUBPATT='1'%- %- =[ End QuoteThreadTopMID ]= =[ Begin ReplyToThreadTop ]= %REM='Replies to the first message in a thread quoting text from another message in the thread and threading to the top of the thread' %SETHEADER(In-Reply-To,%QInclude(PlainThreadTopMID))%- %SETHEADER(References,%QInclude(PlainThreadTopMID))%- In reply to the thread beginning with %- %QInclude(QuoteThreadTopMID) %- quoting text from %- %QInclude(QuoteMIDOfQuotedMessage)%- =[ End ReplyToThreadTop ]= -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
Hello Marck! On Saturday, July 09, 2005, 4:16 AM, you wrote: It's because the TO address isn't set before the reply macros start working. This is a pretty bad bug actually. Any confirmations? Any previous reports / BugTraq entries I've missed? Can't confirm. Just checked, using the right-click context menu on your address with this message, in the From: field. Both Reply to Sender and Reply to this address bring up an Editor window with your address at Silverstones in the To: field, not the TBBETA list address. Just finished reading this thread down to your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's, to a degree, self inflicted. But it's not right that I can't do what I'm intending to do here... So, actually, my test doesn't add anything to what you already know; but thought I'd add my resounding agreement that it's not right! :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Vili, Friday, July 8, 2005, 11:40:19 PM, you wrote: V So, something is reset or set when you open and close the Properties V window with the OK button (if you are connected, you have to manually V disconnect before you try it). After this, IMAP works fine at the V first time, and after it losing something... :(( Yes I can confirm what you are seeing. Further to this when I first tried this I had mine setup as in the attached screenshot. In this case it did not matter what I did it would not fetch the correct number of unread mails. It would however disconnect after 5 seconds every time. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ScreenShot001.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Stuart, V So, something is reset or set when you open and close the Properties V window with the OK button (if you are connected, you have to manually V disconnect before you try it). After this, IMAP works fine at the V first time, and after it losing something... :(( Yes I can confirm what you are seeing. Thank you! Further to this when I first tried this I had mine setup as in the attached screenshot. In this case it did not matter what I did it would not fetch the correct number of unread mails. It would however disconnect after 5 seconds every time. What is set on your IMAP fine tune window? I have only the Use precise counters checked, nothing else. And at you? -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30
Hello Natasha, Saturday, July 9, 2005, 8:29:26 AM, you wrote: NVP To achieve best results - OK, any results at all - you'll need all the following NVP macros. How do you insert new macros into TB! -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Vili, Saturday, July 9, 2005, 10:54:25 AM, you wrote: V What is set on your IMAP fine tune window? I have only the Use V precise counters checked, nothing else. I have attached a screenshot. As you can see I do extensive checking here. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ScreenShot001.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply to address
Hallo Marck, On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:53:52 +0100GMT (9-7-2005, 14:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MDP As I wrote offlist to Miguel, I can make it work if I sacrifice my MDP ability to call people by their correct name with this macro: MDP ,--/ ABN \-- MDP %TO=%TO='%ABofromCompany(%ABofromNAME(%OFROMNAME)) %- MDP %QINCLUDE(RepAddr)' MDP `--\ End /-- MDP ,--/ RepAddr \-- MDP %if:%OREPLYADDR:%OREPLYADDR:%OFROMADDR%- MDP `--\ End /-- What if you replace your ABN QT with this: ,- [ ABN ] %_ABN_To='%ABToCompany(%ABToName(%OFromName)) %ToAddr'%- %To=%To=%_ABN_To `- I called it from a folder template, but it was working just fine. MDP It's, to a degree, self inflicted. But it's not right that I can't do MDP what I'm intending to do here... Sometimes you've got to find new ways when the old ways are blocked. -- Groetjes, Roelof Cats are the proof of a higher purpose to the Universe The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpT1Ymc8Zanh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30
Hello Stuart Cuddy everyone else, on 09-Jul-2005 at 18:38 you (Stuart Cuddy) wrote: NVP To achieve best results - OK, any results at all - you'll need all NVP the following macros. How do you insert new macros into TB! I'd say that Natasha meant Quick Templates. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Stuart, V What is set on your IMAP fine tune window? I have only the Use V precise counters checked, nothing else. I have attached a screenshot. As you can see I do extensive checking here. I did the same... Mine does not disconnect the 2nd time. I have to manually disconnect and go to Properties, OK, THEN good unread numbers and disconnect at the first time, second time: no auto disconnect... -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message not placed in subfolder
Hallo Peter, On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:38:10 +0200GMT (9-7-2005, 19:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PH Has anybody else seen TB not placing messages correctly in the subfolder PH under any circumstances? Once I had three tbbeta messages ending up in trash, but as I was half asleep I still don't know whether that was due to user error or TB, for all other instances where a message ended up somewhere else than expected it was due to filter preferences. -- Groetjes, Roelof It's not a bug. It's a seldom used hidden feature. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgppPwrIDzyZI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Stuart, Try one more thing for me: Lets say, you are stuck, i.e. cannot auto disconnect. 1. Click on an already read/downloaded mail, at me it shows up as a bluish envelope. At me, TB! does not auto disconnect at this time, as it does not have to connect to the IMAP server to get the mail. 2. Click on an non downloaded mail, at me it shows up as a grayish envelope. At me, TB! DOES auto disconnect at this time, as it has to connect to the IMAP server to get the mail. Maybe this auto disconnect thing is IMAP server dependent... -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[4]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hi Vili, --On Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:02 PM -0400 you wrote in part: Maybe this auto disconnect thing is IMAP server dependent... According the the IMAP RFC (3501) .4.Autologout Timer If a server has an inactivity autologout timer, the duration of that timer MUST be at least 30 minutes. The receipt of ANY command from the client during that interval SHOULD suffice to reset the autologout timer. -- Gary Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message not placed in subfolder
Hello Peter, Saturday, July 9, 2005, 12:38:10 PM, you wrote: PH Has anybody else seen TB not placing messages correctly in the subfolder PH under any circumstances? Yes, I receive this fairly often. Some of my TB messages do not end up being moved to my TB folder. Sometimes these messages are also not marked for deletion on the server as they are set to do. Can you check Mail Dispatcher to see if Frank's second message has been marked for deletion or deleted already. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Vili, Saturday, July 9, 2005, 1:02:41 PM, you wrote: V Try one more thing for me: V Lets say, you are stuck, i.e. cannot auto disconnect. V 1. Click on an already read/downloaded mail, at me it shows up as a V bluish envelope. At me, TB! does not auto disconnect at this time, as V it does not have to connect to the IMAP server to get the mail. V 2. Click on an non downloaded mail, at me it shows up as a grayish V envelope. At me, TB! DOES auto disconnect at this time, as V it has to connect to the IMAP server to get the mail. V Maybe this auto disconnect thing is IMAP server dependent... There seems to be too many settings affecting this. If I have synchronize set to sync all messages, headers and text, then there is no need to download anything in you example. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message not placed in subfolder
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 09-Jul-2005 at 19:54 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: It's not a bug. It's a seldom used hidden feature. Do you pick your cookies manually? ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If a table moves when noone is touching it, this is not obviously more likely to have been effected by my deceased grandfather than by myself. We cannot tell how I could move it, but then we cannot tell how he could move it either. -- F. W. H. Myers Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP: Server side outbox
Hi all, I switched to using a server side outbox to see how things are going with using it. Each time the message draft is to be auto-saved while composing, I get the following error: - !9/7/2005, 14:06:42: IMAP - 1: Could not compose the message for uploading Please verify the amount of free disk space Integrity checking of the folder Outbox would not be a bad idea -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message not placed in subfolder
Hallo Alexander, On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:55:39 +0200GMT (9-7-2005, 20:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: It's not a bug. It's a seldom used hidden feature. ASK Do you pick your cookies manually? ;-) Actually, I don't. Too much work. I have to admit that it was very appropriate though. -- Groetjes, Roelof Real SysOps hate authors of bad Shareware programs begging for money. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpak7dBhwzn5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Accessing Beta Site
Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no problem for several days and now I am getting an incorrect login or password. I tried to reset the password and even tried creating a new account, twice, and cannot get on. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Gary, Maybe this auto disconnect thing is IMAP server dependent... According the the IMAP RFC (3501) .4.Autologout Timer If a server has an inactivity autologout timer, the duration of that timer MUST be at least 30 minutes. The receipt of ANY command from the client during that interval SHOULD suffice to reset the autologout timer. Exactly, I have read this in the RFC, also :) What I meant was that the disconnect command is sent to the IMAP server, but my server does not accept it for some reason, i.e. does not answer, while in Stuart case, that does answer... However, I tested on two servers :))) -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Server side outbox
Hello Allie, I switched to using a server side outbox to see how things are going with using it. Each time the message draft is to be auto-saved while composing, I get the following error: - !9/7/2005, 14:06:42: IMAP - 1: Could not compose the message for uploading Please verify the amount of free disk space Integrity checking of the folder Outbox would not be a bad idea I dont have it... In return if I open a draft mail, it is empty... :) :( -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hi Vili, --On Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:36 PM -0400 you wrote in part: Exactly, I have read this in the RFC, also :) I should have known :))) What I meant was that the disconnect command is sent to the IMAP server, but my server does not accept it for some reason, i.e. does not answer, while in Stuart case, that does answer... I too have had variable responses with this and TB! It is not consistent, and sometimes will work and sometimes not. Conversely, I also have had quick disconnects from the IMAP server for no apparent reason, with no input from me; it will just disconnect.. all other clients I use work fine. :( However, I tested on two servers :))) It is not the server fault as you probably surmised. :) -- Gary Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP users: auto disconnect
Hello Gary, What I meant was that the disconnect command is sent to the IMAP server, but my server does not accept it for some reason, i.e. does not answer, while in Stuart case, that does answer... I too have had variable responses with this and TB! It is not consistent, and sometimes will work and sometimes not. Conversely, I also have had quick disconnects from the IMAP server for no apparent reason, with no input from me; it will just disconnect.. all other clients I use work fine. :( :( However, I tested on two servers :))) It is not the server fault as you probably surmised. :) Yes, it is not... -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Saturday, July 9, 2005, 1:50:09 PM, (Internet Time - @826) you wrote: Hello Wayne, WH Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no problem WH for several days and now I am getting an incorrect login or WH password. I tried to reset the password and even tried creating a new WH account, twice, and cannot get on. Hey Wayne, glad to see you on TBBeta. I know you from the Dopus list. Anyway, I just tried getting on the Beta Site and had no problem at all, but I didn't need a password or username. This is the url I went to: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ But if you are speaking of the Tracking site, I just went there also and did have to enter my username and password. It is at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php And one last thing. Had a real hard time trying to find your message. I thought it was a new subject, but in fact I guess you replied and didn't change the references. I finally found it under the IMAP users: auto disconnect string. :) -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.51 Windows XP Professional/5.1 Service Pack 2 (build 2600) on a Single/Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Server side outbox
On Saturday, July 09, 2005 at 2:45:51 PM [GMT -0500], Vili wrote: I dont have it... In return if I open a draft mail, it is empty... :) I once had a message that I saved as a draft and I could open it and continue composing without problems. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hallo Wayne, zaterdag 9 juli 2005, 20:50:09, schreef u: Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no problem for several days and now I am getting an incorrect login or password. I tried to reset the password and even tried creating a new account, twice, and cannot get on. I can also not get on, i reset my password also but it do not work here. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Renate All my life I said I wanted to be someone...I can see now that I should have been more specific. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] zaterdag 9 juli 2005 and 23:19:55 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hello Michael, On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 4:49:38 PM, you wrote re: Accessing Beta Site: MA And one last thing. Had a real hard time trying to find your message. MA I thought it was a new subject, but in fact I guess you replied and MA didn't change the references. I finally found it under the IMAP users: MA auto disconnect string. Not sure what you mean by that. How do I change references and why should I? I also don't understand what you mean by having a hard time finding my message. How did you know to look for it if you did not see it in the first place? Please explain. I am very much a novice using The Bat! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 17:32:06 [UTC-0400] (Saturday, July 9, 2005 23:32 my local time) Wayne Howard wrote: MA I thought it was a new subject, but in fact I guess you replied and MA didn't change the references. I finally found it under the IMAP users: MA auto disconnect string. Not sure what you mean by that. How do I change references and why should I? I also don't understand what you mean by having a hard time finding my message. How did you know to look for it if you did not see it in the first place? Please explain. I am very much a novice using The Bat! Starting with a new subject you should select New message fumction instead of Reply. Replies have information about the message to which they are referenced, this is the replied messages ID. Therefore original message and all replies make thread which can be displayed in message list (see attached picture for more details). Actually your first message is not reply, but you used reply function and therefore it was inserted into thread unrelated to the subject. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.51 in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) threading.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : WH Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no WH problem for several days and now I am getting an incorrect login WH or password. I tried to reset the password and even tried WH creating a new account, twice, and cannot get on. Yes, I'm getting access denied. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Oxymoron: Unix security. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hello Goncalo! On Saturday, July 09, 2005, 4:52 PM, you wrote: WH Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no WH problem for several days and now I am getting an incorrect login WH or password. I tried to reset the password and even tried WH creating a new account, twice, and cannot get on. Yes, I'm getting access denied. No problem here, for either the password protected download site or the Bug Tracker site. Once, long ago, I did have such problems. Either Marek or Maxim had to intervene to straighten them out. I think once your account is messed up, it's almost impossible to fix it by yourself. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hello Wayne Howard, on 09-Jul-2005 at 23:32 you (Wayne Howard) wrote: Not sure what you mean by that. How do I change references and why should I? I also don't understand what you mean by having a hard time finding my message. How did you know to look for it if you did not see it in the first place? Please explain. I am very much a novice using The Bat! Press F9 to view the source code of your message. You'll find two headers, In-Reply-To and References, the first one contains the message-id of the message you are replying to, the second contains all the message-ids of the previous messages in that conversation. I assume you have a separate folder where you filter this lists messages to. Select your own message in that folder. Press ALT+1 and see where your message is. :-) This function is called threading (ALT+1 is a shortcut to the menu item View | Display thread by... | References), and maybe you'll agree that it is a very handy feature. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Nothing splendid has ever been acheived except by those who dared believe that something inside them was superior to circumstance. -- Bruce Barton Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Accessing Beta Site
Hello Zygmunt, On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 5:48:31 PM, you wrote re: Accessing Beta Site: ZW Starting with a new subject you should select New message fumction instead ZW of Reply. Replies have information about the message to which they are ZW referenced, this is the replied messages ID. Therefore original message and ZW all replies make thread which can be displayed in message list (see ZW attached picture for more details). Wow, this is embarrassing - especially since I am a moderator myself. Since I rarely read in thread mode myself, I guess I wouldn't notice. Thanks everyone for the clear and complete explanations! :) -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Accessing Beta Site
Saturday, July 9, 2005, 4:32:06 PM, (Internet Time - @938) you wrote: Hello Wayne, WH Not sure what you mean by that. How do I change references and why WH should I? I also don't understand what you mean by having a hard time WH finding my message. How did you know to look for it if you did not see WH it in the first place? Please explain. I am very much a novice using WH The Bat! Sorry didn't mean to really mess things up here. But as the others mentioned and has been explained fully, I use the threaded mode more with mailing list, including Dopus, to make sure I follow the subjects and see the replies before moving to another subject. And what I meant by following your message, basically was, I read through all messages first and then if someone has not replied to a question, I will go back and find the message that needed answering, such was your case. But when I looked for your Subject of Accessing the Beta Site, I couldn't find it in the subject headers. What I ended up doing was using the Search feature to find your name and that worked perfect. :) Anyway again didn't mean to confuse you with the references, as you found out, we shouldn't change them anyway. But maybe you will be able to see the advantage of the Threaded mode The Bat! uses. As I said before, it helps a lot with mailing lists. And I too am a novice with The Bat! and it gets better all the time, thanks to the great group of people here on these lists. Still learning... -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.51 Windows XP Professional/5.1 Service Pack 2 (build 2600) on a Single/Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
