Re[5]: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : V Hello Paul, The tabs are a filter but you have the view locked on a message that is not in the filter so you need to move off (unlock) the message in focus. V Just to convince you: if you have a message list tab, e.g. messages V with yellow color, and you dont have yellow mails in a folder, and V you click on that message tab, the focused mail shows up... I go to V the restroom, come back, and Hey, I have a yellow mail in my V folder... Wrong. V PS: Restroom break represents a 2 min non-TB! break while my V short term memory loses the info that focused mail will be shown in V all message tabs. :))) Hey, Villi, are you talking about a minor issue with the message tabs where if I select, for example, the unread tab and have no unread messages the focused message appears in the list instead of an empty message tab? If so (I was too lazy to read the entire thread) and IF you consider this a bug, I'm subscribing your opinion. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The minute his head is in view, HIT IT WITH THE ROCK!! Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Message list tabs dangerous!: NO, THEY ARE NOT!
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I disagree. I think the popup menu should have the option to disable the selected tab this is much more intuitive as the messages requesting help to delete the tabs indicate. V as the messages requesting help to delete the tabs indicate. V I dont understand this sentence... But ok, you are right, you should I saw messages (at least I think I did) of people requesting help to delete message tabs (delete = disable). V be able to manage the tabs there, too. But only from right click menu Popup menu = right click menu... :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You can't jump a canyon in two leaps. Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Saving decrypted messages
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, at 08:57:42 [GMT -0500] (which was 15:57 where I live) Mary Bull wrote: Hello Mary, ...snip I put this expanded wish to be able to save decrypted messages into a note attached to this Wish List report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2168 Please add your support if you like the idea. The original Wish is from 10 December 2003, reported by Peter Meyns. It's assigned to Stefan Tanurkov and is still open. Last note added before mine, today, was 23 February 2005. So far there are 19 supporting notes, if I counted correctly, including mine, today. I just tested this in Thunderbird 1.5 beta and with this MUA it works like a charm. Of course after opening/editing you have to encrypt and/or sign again. I have renewed my note. -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgplvFGmOZWDh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
Hi all, I'm getting an access violation when attempting to launch .wmv files. It happened with one that I just got. However, it's happening with others that I already received. See http://pics.aimlink.name/av.png -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Patience is a virtue, it's just not one of my better virtues pgp1hejU5am4u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
Hello Goncalo, Sunday, September 18, 2005, 3:17:06 AM, you wrote: GF In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : V Hello Paul, The tabs are a filter but you have the view locked on a message that is not in the filter so you need to move off (unlock) the message in focus. V Just to convince you: if you have a message list tab, e.g. messages V with yellow color, and you dont have yellow mails in a folder, and V you click on that message tab, the focused mail shows up... I go to V the restroom, come back, and Hey, I have a yellow mail in my V folder... Wrong. V PS: Restroom break represents a 2 min non-TB! break while my V short term memory loses the info that focused mail will be shown in V all message tabs. :))) GF Hey, Villi, are you talking about a minor issue with the message tabs GF where if I select, for example, the unread tab and have no unread GF messages the focused message appears in the list instead of an empty GF message tab? GF If so (I was too lazy to read the entire thread) and IF you consider GF this a bug, I'm subscribing your opinion. Yes, I think there are two separate issues here. Lets say you have a tab labeled important. When you select that tab the currently selected message is also included in the displayed message list even if it does not belong. I think this is a bug. On the other hand if you are viewing your important list and change one of your messages to Unimportant I do not think it should immediately disappear from the list. This is the way it currently happens and in my opinion is correct. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[7]: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
Hi Stuart, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : SC On the other hand if you are viewing your important list and SC change one of your messages to Unimportant I do not think it SC should immediately disappear from the list. This is the way it SC currently happens and in my opinion is correct. Why not? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Bo Derek thinks we're a bunch of airheads. Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[8]: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
Hello Goncalo, Sunday, September 18, 2005, 8:39:57 AM, you wrote: SC On the other hand if you are viewing your important list and SC change one of your messages to Unimportant I do not think it SC should immediately disappear from the list. This is the way it SC currently happens and in my opinion is correct. GF Why not? Mainly because it is very disconcerting to have messages just disappear for no apparent reason. Take for example the situation where you set up an Unread tab. You also have it set so that messages are marked as read after 10 seconds. You start to read the message, get half way through, the message gets marked as read and disappears from view. This used to happen every time TB looked for new messages and the message you were trying to read would disappear off the screen while viewing Unread Messages Only. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Mailto
Hello Leif, Friday, September 16, 2005, 7:18:15 PM, you wrote: Yep, this is what I had to do with my work laptop. I had the exact same issue where I'd click a mailto: having both Outlook and TB installed and it would open 30 or so IE windows. I had to change it to Outlook in IE, close it, change it to TB, then close it again. Unfortunately it does not seem to work here. I have tried it three or four times. :( -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Mark, Saturday, September 17, 2005, 12:04:04 PM, you wrote: There you can click on a tab, go a little bit higher with the mouse and right-click, there you can choose to delete. But don't ask me what you will delete, it might as well be the content of your whole hard disk. :-) Actually I think it will delete the folder that is currently selected. I don't think I will test your theory. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Themes don't stick with OTFE
Hello Henk, Saturday, September 17, 2005, 8:27:23 AM, you wrote: I am not using themes but FWIW I am using OTFE and after selecting a theme and closing and restarting the Bat! starts with the default theme. Aren't computers wonderful? It still works here with no problem. I've tried it with a few themes and each one has stuck. Not sure why mine seems to be the only machine where the themes stick when using OTFE. I wasn't using themes previously, I just decided to see if I would have the problems that everyone else was. -- Kevin Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
On Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 8:21:57 AM [GMT -0500], Stuart Cuddy wrote: Yes, I think there are two separate issues here. Lets say you have a tab labeled important. When you select that tab the currently selected message is also included in the displayed message list even if it does not belong. I think this is a bug. I am reading a message from Jasper. I wish to view another message from him that's not currently in view. However, it had attachments. I hit my 'message with attachments' tab and find his message quickly. I then switch back to the one I was reading and reply, simply because it was in focus and remained so despite changing views. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...My weight is perfect for my height... which varies. pgpAoIhEV7lji.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
Hello Curtis, On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:00:47 -0500 GMT (18/09/2005, 19:00 +0700 GMT), Curtis wrote: C I'm getting an access violation when attempting to launch .wmv files. It C happened with one that I just got. However, it's happening with others C that I already received. C See http://pics.aimlink.name/av.png Send a link to an .wmv file instead. -- Cheers, Thomas. This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us. -- Western Union internal memo, 1876. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available
Filters still randomly stop working after some time. Michael -- Nbg, 18.09.2005, 16:38 TheBat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Lieber Kissenschlachten als Robben schlachten. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! pgp1Zh9xbImAW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Michael, Sunday, September 18, 2005, 9:39:35 AM, you wrote: MS Filters still randomly stop working after some time. Confirmed, this seems to coincide with a general slowdown with IMAP and message count problems. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[9]: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
Hi Stuart, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : SC Mainly because it is very disconcerting to have messages just SC disappear for no apparent reason. Take for example the situation SC where you set up an Unread tab. You also have it set so that SC messages are marked as read after 10 seconds. You start to read SC the message, get half way through, the message gets marked as read SC and disappears from view. Why not when you change focus? It makes sense to me. If it doesn't fit to the selection criteria it should get out of sight. SC This used to happen every time TB looked for new messages and the SC message you were trying to read would disappear off the screen SC while viewing Unread Messages Only. Hmmm... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias All right who siphoned the blood out of my cat Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
Hello Curtis, On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:34:53 -0500 GMT (18/09/2005, 21:34 +0700 GMT), Curtis wrote: C I am reading a message from Jasper. Who is Jasper? No, delete that, I'm being silly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Important warning for aircraft pilots: Teeth that have been improperly filled cause problems with altitude or rapid decompressions. The higher pressure under the filling will cause excruciating pain and in rare instances can cause the tooth to explode. An exploding tooth would be distracting. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
backup question
Het is nu Sunday, September 18, 2005, 17:03:32 h : Hoi tbbeta, don't know if this is the right place to ask, but heck here goes: is there a way to have TheBat! do automatic backups? My computer is on 24/7 and I want battie to do an automatic backup at night. Just had some issues and I really wanna have my important data backed up at a very regular basis. If it's not at all possible: then consider this a very URGENT feature request. Much more important than that tab thingy. -- groeten, Cees BACHELOR: A man who never makes the same mistake once. __ The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows 2003 5.2 build 3790 Service Pack 1 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
On Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 9:53:46 AM [GMT -0500], Goncalo Farias wrote: SC Mainly because it is very disconcerting to have messages just SC disappear for no apparent reason. Take for example the situation SC where you set up an Unread tab. You also have it set so that SC messages are marked as read after 10 seconds. You start to read SC the message, get half way through, the message gets marked as read SC and disappears from view. Why not when you change focus? It makes sense to me. If it doesn't fit to the selection criteria it should get out of sight. But you haven't finished reading the message yet! Are we discussing theoretical or practical use of the feature? Say you're tackling a thread of unread messages in your unread message virtual folder or whatever? You read the first message in the thread. You then read the second and wish to review something in the first message. Oops. The first message is no longer in the view. IOW's, it can be really counterproductive having the view display only unread messages at all times, even while actively browsing. How the virtual folder view handles this issue is the way it really aught to work. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Fad: In one era and out the other. pgpT9cbMRUMVC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
On Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 9:26:46 AM [GMT -0500], Thomas Fernandez wrote: Send a link to an .wmv file instead. The .wmv files I have here are over 1 mb. Are you sure you want me to send you one as an attachment? :) -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Oxymoron: Subsequent Initiatives. pgpAf3rsDEBBk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
Hello Curtis, Sunday, September 18, 2005, 9:34:53 AM, you wrote: C I am reading a message from Jasper. I wish to view another message from C him that's not currently in view. However, it had attachments. I hit my C 'message with attachments' tab and find his message quickly. I then C switch back to the one I was reading and reply, simply because it was in C focus and remained so despite changing views. When I got Jaspers message I hit reply switched back to the list then selected the attachment tab found his old message and then switched to the reply. While I was reading another of Jaspers messages I had to switch to my tbbeta folder via it's tab and Jaspers message disappeared because it is not in the tbbeta directory. This causes inconsistency in the way messages are displayed, depending on which tab you select. I guess the way we work with TB is so different between different users we need options for everything. :) BTW Jasper just replied to me via PM and he agrees with me. ;) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
Hello Curtis, On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:16:08 -0500 GMT (18/09/2005, 22:16 +0700 GMT), Curtis wrote: C The .wmv files I have here are over 1 mb. Are you sure you want me to C send you one as an attachment? :) Send it by PM then. Otherwise I cannot confirm your bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. I shall always begin, start, initiate, take the first step, and/or write the first word, when I get around to it. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list Tabs, bad filtering
On Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 10:33:48 AM [GMT -0500], Stuart Cuddy wrote: When I got Jaspers message I hit reply switched back to the list then selected the attachment tab found his old message and then switched to the reply. Ah. You're assuming that I knew that I wanted to reply all along. I actually decided to reply after reading his other message with the attachment. :) I guess the way we work with TB is so different between different users we need options for everything. :) This is certainly the case, yes. More options again? BTW Jasper just replied to me via PM and he agrees with me. ;) He did??? He did the same with me!!! I'm going to find that fella. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Fad: In one era and out the other. pgpg09M2SZzXS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: backup question
Hello Cees, Cees wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): is there a way to have TheBat! do automatic backups? Why do you want that TheBat! makes the backup? Just create your personal batch file which creates the backup, not only for TheBat! but for all your important data. Work here very fine. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: backup question
Hello Boris, Sunday, September 18, 2005, 6:44:25 PM, you wrote: Hello Cees, Cees wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): is there a way to have TheBat! do automatic backups? Why do you want that TheBat! makes the backup? Just create your personal batch file which creates the backup, not only for TheBat! but for all your important data. Work here very fine. Or use IMAP :) -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: backup question
Hello Cees everyone else, on 18-Sep-2005 at 17:06 you (Cees) wrote: Just had some issues and I really wanna have my important data backed up at a very regular basis. You could try the Windows backup utility. Start | All Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Backup. It is basically the same softwaare as Veritas Backup Exec (just start it and select Help, About), one of the premier backup solutions for Windows (especially servers) that sells at about $500 for a single server license. This is a really nice piece of software that is often forgotten, or underestimated. It makes use of the Shadow Copy function in XP/2003 to back up open system files, etc. etc. - really worth checking out. I don't make regular backups, but using NTBackup and an external USB harddisk makes it quite easy to make a complete system recovery backup. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Life not only begins at forty, it begins to show. Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
Hello Curits, On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:29:34 +0700 GMT (18/09/2005, 22:29 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote in response to Curits: C The .wmv files I have here are over 1 mb. Are you sure you want me to C send you one as an attachment? :) A classic indeed. But no, I don't have any Access Violation. It opens fine. ;-) Bug not confirmed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 10. ... stretched out on the floor to fill out the job application. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
On Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 11:09:51 AM [GMT -0500], Thomas Fernandez wrote: A classic indeed. But no, I don't have any Access Violation. It opens fine. ;-) Bug not confirmed. Hmmm I was afraid of that. Do AV's need to be confirmed though? :) Don't they basically imply a fault whether they're reproducible by all users or not? At least, I'm hoping so. :) -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive. pgpJLGzeYg13B.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: APOP authentication problem!!! (was: Re: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available)
Hello Greg Strong everyone else, on 18-Sep-2005 at 18:14 you (Greg Strong) wrote: Well maybe it has something to do with the fact that the interface in the Account | Properties | Transport NO LONGER accepts APOP for authentication for receipt of email. Confirmed. Seems like the setting does not stick. Will you file a report on BT? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) All words are pegs to hang ideas on. -- Henry Ward Beecher Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: backup question
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, at 17:06:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 17:06 where I live) Cees wrote: don't know if this is the right place to ask, but heck here goes: is there a way to have TheBat! do automatic backups? My computer is on 24/7 and I want battie to do an automatic backup at night. Just had some issues and I really wanna have my important data backed up at a very regular basis. I make backups with The Bat! very regularly. In the past I have done this automaticly with scheduler (taakplanner), so.. -- groetsels, Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgp47pWb7aZOk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Themes don't stick with OTFE
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, at 15:09:32 [GMT +0100] (which was 16:09 where I live) Kevin wrote: Hello Kevin, Saturday, September 17, 2005, 8:27:23 AM, you wrote: I am not using themes but FWIW I am using OTFE and after selecting a theme and closing and restarting the Bat! starts with the default theme. Aren't computers wonderful? It still works here with no problem. I've tried it with a few themes and each one has stuck. Not sure why mine seems to be the only machine where the themes stick when using OTFE. I wasn't using themes previously, I just decided to see if I would have the problems that everyone else was. Tried it again but no, ;-) -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpz8iJMzCHfh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
9/18/2005 2:43 PM Hi Curtis, On 9/18/2005 Curtis wrote: C Do AV's need to be confirmed though? :) Don't they basically imply a C fault whether they're reproducible by all users or not? At least, I'm C hoping so. :) The AV can be caused by an inappropriate local configuration so confirmation is very important. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: backup question
9/18/2005 2:38 PM Hi Cees, On 9/18/2005 Cees wrote: C Just had some issues and I really wanna have my important data backed up at C a very regular basis. C If it's not at all possible: then consider this a very URGENT feature C request. Much more important than that tab thingy. I use SecondCopy to back up all my data to other machines on the network and to CD-RW. The backup over the network is scheduled for every 2 hours and the CD-RW is once/day. It all happens automatically and transparently. All of my data is stored on a partition for this purpose only. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
On Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 1:44:35 PM [GMT -0500], Paul Van Noord wrote: The AV can be caused by an inappropriate local configuration so confirmation is very important. WinAmp is what is trying to startup. I recently installed WinAmp, so the problem may be there, although it auto-executes and plays .wmv files through associations just fine with other applications. shrug -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Things working well, no problems. Time to upgrade. pgpVg2Zbt8DZu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Reply/forward date macro formats hosed again?
With 3.61.05, I've re-encountered a problem that I thought long dead. The %ODATESHORT at %OTIMELONG (and possibly the other date/time macros, I don't use them though) started returning the system default date format, instead of the format I selected in Control Panel. Can this PLEASE be fixed again??? I'm reverting to 3.61.03, not only because of this, but also IMAP counters have gone completely crazy in this version. :( If it goes on like this, I'll definitely have to give up on The Bat entirely. It starts to suck more with each release. pgpYuqJt0giUv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: APOP authentication problem!!! (was: Re: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available)
Hallo Greg, On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:14:33 -0500GMT (18-9-2005, 18:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GS Well maybe it has something to do with the fact that the interface in GS the Account | Properties | Transport NO LONGER accepts APOP for GS authentication for receipt of email. Confirmed. (Sort of) In the account properties it says that it's using regular pop3 authentication, but my mail server logs that I'm using APOP. So I guess it's the interface that is at fault, but not the setiing. -- Groetjes, Roelof Experiencing synaptical difficulties; Please stand by. The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQmwwn7yRgr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: backup question
Hallo Cees, On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:06:03 +0200GMT (18-9-2005, 17:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C don't know if this is the right place to ask, but heck here goes: No, not really a beta issue. ;-) C is there a way to have TheBat! do automatic backups? C My computer is on 24/7 and I want battie to do an automatic backup at night. Can be done with TB's scheduler, I'm doing that weekly. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: Ultimate memory manager. It manages to use it all. The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpHdzl7qRe6v.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available
9/18/2005 2:46 PM Hi 9Val, On 9/16/2005 9Val wrote: 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I am extremely pleased with the memory control you have given TB and want to say thank you! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
9/18/2005 7:19 PM Hi Curtis, On 9/18/2005 Curtis wrote: C WinAmp is what is trying to startup. I recently installed WinAmp, so the C problem may be there, although it auto-executes and plays .wmv files C through associations just fine with other applications. shrug Have you tried with Windows Media Player as the associated program? I have had stability and resource hogging problems with WinAmp in the past. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: backup question
Howdy Vilius, Sunday, September 18, 2005, 4:45:39 PM, Vilius wrotened: VŠ Hello Boris, VŠ Sunday, September 18, 2005, 6:44:25 PM, you wrote: Hello Cees, Cees wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): is there a way to have TheBat! do automatic backups? Why do you want that TheBat! makes the backup? Just create your personal batch file which creates the backup, not only for TheBat! but for all your important data. Work here very fine. VŠ Or use IMAP :) Or trust the bat and windows to be stable enough never to crash. As long as you hope never to read any of your mail again you'll be fine. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM I hate to throw cold water on your bubble. Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access Violation when attempting to lauch attachment
On 9/18/2005 at 6:21:07 PM [GMT -0500], Paul Van Noord wrote: Have you tried with Windows Media Player as the associated program? I just did and get the same problem. AV's like crazy when I double click the file for playing. Saving to file and playing the saved copy is OK. Both WinAmp and now WMP started just fine and played the file. I have had stability and resource hogging problems with WinAmp in the past. I'll have to keep a watch on that. I'm running a beta of TB!, so I'll not get too hasty changing up my system too much because of experienced AV's. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...In mathematics or physics, simplifying can be complicated. pgp9kU4ITtYQy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
