Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Peter, PM I would like to be able to check for, say, the last 300 new messages PM on the server instead of *all*. Or those of the last x days. M Downloading headers first is the only thing you can do with POP protocol M to achieve what you want. What you mentioned in your first post as M achievable with MyGate is because the protocol for news is NNTP, quite M different to POP. Thank you Miguel, for clearing this up. So it won't be of use to file a wish, if it is due to the protocol. :hmm: I'm no real expert in protocols and Vili thinks it's possible, so I'm no sure. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Odd Address handling when quoting
I get mail from someone whose From (and Reply-To) header comes in in the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now when I reply to the message instead of getting some this like... tp blah blah blah I get ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] blah blah blah and I can't figure out why. I've just had another message from someone in the same domain whose quote marker behaved just as you would expect. Both headers seem to be the same (or as similar as 2 headers can be). Is there some odd setting that's doing this? FWIW, I have access to a macro that generates the correct value for the quote mark, but I've no idea how to apply this macro to every individual line in the message. As far as I know, this worked alright in the past but I don't have any old exes to try it against any longer. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by MyMacros 1.11a. Ladies: If invited to a fancy party, go wearing hair rollers, so that the hostess will think you are going somewhere REALLY important afterwards. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
Hallo Stuart, On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:40:02 +GMT (7-11-2006, 11:40 , where I live), you wrote: SH I get mail from someone whose From (and Reply-To) header comes in in the form SH [EMAIL PROTECTED] SH Now when I reply to the message instead of getting some this like... SH tp blah blah blah SH I get ... SH [EMAIL PROTECTED] blah blah blah SH and I can't figure out why. Did you try to reply with TB v3.85.03 too? Did that give you the same result or did that result in the proper quote prefix? -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 010 Reserved for future mistakes by our developers http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpnOYDFyF7DT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
Did you try to reply with TB v3.85.03 too? Did that give you the same result or did that result in the proper quote prefix? I can't honestly say if I did or not and that exe isn't on the beta d/l site so I can't check. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by MyMacros 1.11a. The things that come to those who wait will be the things left by those who got there first. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
Howdy Stuart, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 10:40:02 AM, Stuart wrotened: I get mail from someone whose From (and Reply-To) header comes in in the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now when I reply to the message instead of getting some this like... tp blah blah blah I get ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] blah blah blah and I can't figure out why. What sort of template are you using, is it specific to the sender? Does this happen with anyone else that you reply to? -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.85.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
What sort of template are you using, is it specific to the sender?
Does this happen with anyone else that you reply to?
I've got an account-level reply template.
However, I /think/ I've identified the problem, but could do with
someone else trying it.
My template includes the line ...
%QUOTESTYLE=%QINCLUDE(Initials)
So, the first thing I did was drop the call to 'Initials' with is a
quick template I got from somewhere.
I replaced the line with
%QUOTESTYLE=NE
'cos NE are the initials of the person I was replying to. I created a
reply to one of NE's messages and got the full address as the quote
mark. The, accidentally, I hit reply for someone else whose address
has never been a problem and whose email comes in in the form
My Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The quote mark was, on this message 'My Mate. I tried another message
where the From line was in the form
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and got the whole address as the quote mark.
I went back to the template and changed it to ...
%QUOTESTYLE=TW
And /all/ of the messages this time had a quote mark of 'TW' as you
would have expected.
/Then/ I had an idea. On the dialog that allows you to enter the
template for replies there are a set of radio buttons controlling how
quote marks are, by default, defined. A quick set of tests has
revealed that if you manually set %QUOTESTYLE and the first character
is the same as the first character as any of the radio button options
('N', 'I', 'F' or 'L') (upper or lower case) then TB! will use the
first of those options it finds whose first letter matches.
I can get around it my setting %QUOTESTYPE= NE.
Can anyone reproduce this?
--
Stuart Hemming
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Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
Hallo Stuart, On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:23:06 +GMT (7-11-2006, 12:23 , where I live), you wrote: Did you try to reply with TB v3.85.03 too? Did that give you the same result or did that result in the proper quote prefix? SH I can't honestly say if I did or not and that exe isn't on the beta SH d/l site so I can't check. 3.85.03 isn't a beta, it's the public release, everything you test here here should be compared with the public release. Especially with something like this when you don't know whether it's the beta that's broken or the template that you're using. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ga Naar WINDOWS 95. Ga Niet Langs DOS. Ontvang Geen f 2,- http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyuA5cMsjdo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
3.85.03 isn't a beta, it's the public release, Brain fade. Need more sleep. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by MyMacros 1.11a. I've learned that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are more screwed up than you think. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hi Vili, on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:59:02 -0500GMT, you wrote: PM I would like to be able to check for, say, the last 300 new messages PM on the server instead of *all*. Or those of the last x days. V Using Telnet and POP protocol requests, it is possible to download the V X newest (top X, I mean) messages. So, it IS possible to download the V newest X messages indeed. That sounds like exactly what I had in mind. How would I go about it? I guess I'll have to use a script of some kind, but what should it contain? This is getting OT on TBBeta, so, in case you find the time for an answer, please reply on TBOT or privately. -- Cheers Peter X-post and f'up to TBOT The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hello, I have actually seen this issue with the last 3 betas and now this alpha. If The Bat is checking for messages and there is a hiccup in my Internet connection it freezes the connections in progress. Hitting the Abort All or Delete Task does nothing. The only fix is a complete shutdown and restart of the client. Of course since the Connection Centre is not responding the only way to do this is with the Task Manager. I have a quick and dirty flash video of it here http://www.taynee.com/cc.html I've tested this with other mail clients and they are able to recover if there is an interruption in the connection. Anyone else run into this? Thanks. -- Matt v. 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hi Matt, on Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:53:01 -0800GMT, you wrote: MT I have actually seen this issue with the last 3 betas and now this MT alpha. If The Bat is checking for messages and there is a hiccup in my MT Internet connection it freezes the connections in progress. Hitting the MT Abort All or Delete Task does nothing. The only fix is a complete MT shutdown and restart of the client... MT Anyone else run into this? Yes, every once in a while, but not (yet?) with the recent betas. See this BT entry from Jan 2002 - it is confirmed by RIT, but nobody seems to have a clue... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=235. Add your note if you like. :-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
On Tuesday, November 7, 2006 @ 11:11:32 AM [-0700], Peter Meyns wrote: Yes, every once in a while, but not (yet?) with the recent betas. See this BT entry from Jan 2002 - it is confirmed by RIT, but nobody seems to have a clue... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=235. Add your note if you like. :-) Ok note added. Thanks. -- Matt Using 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 (Service Pack 2) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Dear Peter, -- Montag, 06. November 2006, 14:12:17: RO As far as the newest 300 messages are concerned, could you do RO something like that with the mail dispatcher? (I don't know, RO didn't try it.) I would also have to download all headers first, so both ways don't exactly help me save a significant amount of time. Too bad... You could use the Mail Dispatcher. Once all post are shown you can do the following: - by pressing the Numeric Key '2' UNflag all - select the first msg you want - scroll down as many windows (msg.) you need - 'Shift|Click' the last msg you want - press the numeric key '2' to flag those selected - Process the whole with 'F2' I guess this is the simplest one! -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.85.03 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hello Matt Thoene everyone else, on 07-Nov-2006 at 19:53 you (Matt Thoene) wrote: I've tested this with other mail clients and they are able to recover if there is an interruption in the connection. Hmmm. What happens if you reduce the timeout? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Give me, Mother, luck at my birth, then throw me if you will on the rubbish heap. (Bulgarian Proverb) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
On Tuesday, November 7, 2006 @ 11:29:30 AM [-0700], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I've tested this with other mail clients and they are able to recover if there is an interruption in the connection. Hmmm. What happens if you reduce the timeout? Not sure. I'll reduce them from the default 60 seconds to 30 now and see how this work. Thanks. -- Matt Using 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 (Service Pack 2) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hello Matt Thoene everyone else, on 07-Nov-2006 at 20:37 you (Matt Thoene) wrote: I've tested this with other mail clients and they are able to recover if there is an interruption in the connection. Hmmm. What happens if you reduce the timeout? Not sure. I'll reduce them from the default 60 seconds to 30 now and see how this work. Thanks. I saw the BT entry that Peter post after replying to your message. I fear that changing the timeout will not make any difference after I read the notes (in the links to the similar BT entries). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If rational men cooperated and used their scientific knowledge to the full, they could now secure the economic welfare of all. -- Bertrand Russell Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hi Eddie, on Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:24:03 +0100GMT, you wrote: RO As far as the newest 300 messages are concerned, could you do RO something like that with the mail dispatcher? (I don't know, RO didn't try it.) I would also have to download all headers first, so both ways don't exactly help me save a significant amount of time. Too bad... EC You could use the Mail Dispatcher. Once all post are shown you can do EC the following... Thanks for your response, but exactly *that* is my problem: once all posts are shown, all headers have been loaded, which means the main payload has been done. The few lines of text per mail don't matter much then... That's why I'm looking for a way to avoid to download *all* headers first. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Vili everyone else, on 06-Nov-2006 at 19:59 you (Vili) wrote: Using Telnet and POP protocol requests, it is possible to download the X newest (top X, I mean) messages. So, it IS possible to download the newest X messages indeed. That functionality depends on the POP server, not all types of servers support the TOP msg n command. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Wisdom is still a galaxy light-years away. -- Jack Henry Abbott Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Noob question
Noob I have lost the link to the beta page. Would someone kindly provide it? Thanks in advance /Noob -- Rick Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Noob question
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, its in the list footer that is appended to every message. on 07-Nov-2006 at 21:00 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html That site contains the link you're looking for. What a wonderful world. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Rennie's Law of Public Transit: If you start walking, the bus comes when you are halfway between stops. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hello Matt, I have actually seen this issue with the last 3 betas and now this alpha. If The Bat is checking for messages and there is a hiccup in my Internet connection it freezes the connections in progress. Hitting the Abort All or Delete Task does nothing. The only fix is a complete shutdown and restart of the client. Of course since the Connection No :) If you disable your net connection temporarily, that will kicks out of TB from this dead state, too :)) Anyone else run into this? Yes. There is a loop in the program without the proper exit conditions or timeout. -- Vili Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Alexander, Using Telnet and POP protocol requests, it is possible to download the X newest (top X, I mean) messages. So, it IS possible to download the newest X messages indeed. That functionality depends on the POP server, not all types of servers support the TOP msg n command. You know more about servers than me, I am sure :) All I am saying, theoretically there is an option for selective download without the MD. -- Vili Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Noob question
Ok , flagged your message, parked it, went to the web page and bookmarked it ... Doh! By the way thank you very much -- Rick Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
On Tuesday, November 7, 2006 @ 2:56:35 PM [-0700], Vili wrote: No :) If you disable your net connection temporarily, that will kicks out of TB from this dead state, too :)) A less than desirable solution of course. Yes. There is a loop in the program without the proper exit conditions or timeout. Aha. Any idea if they know about this and are actively working on it? -- Matt Using 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 (Service Pack 2) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Odd Address handling when quoting
Howdy Stuart, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 1:23:59 PM, Stuart wrotened: What sort of template are you using, is it specific to the sender? Does this happen with anyone else that you reply to? SH I've got an account-level reply template. SH I can get around it my setting %QUOTESTYPE= NE. SH Can anyone reproduce this? As far as I can see if its an account level template then you can set TB! to use the initials on in accountpropertiestemplatesreply or the first name/last name etc. In OptionsPreferencesViewer/Editor Editor Preferences you can set the length of the Quote name limit. Stuart Hemming Can anyone reproduce this? Now when I tried your template I got the above. If I set the quote name limit to 3 characters, then TB! marked this as not a quote. I think the above may be an easier way of setting the reply template to produce the behaviour you desire. But I haven't been able to find a way of getting to address used as the quotation name. -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.85.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Howdy Peter, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 7:55:03 PM, Peter wrotened: RO As far as the newest 300 messages are concerned, could you do RO something like that with the mail dispatcher? (I don't know, RO didn't try it.) I would also have to download all headers first, so both ways don't exactly help me save a significant amount of time. Too bad... EC You could use the Mail Dispatcher. Once all post are shown you can do EC the following... PM Thanks for your response, but exactly *that* is my problem: once all PM posts are shown, all headers have been loaded, which means the main PM payload has been done. The few lines of text per mail don't matter PM much then... PM That's why I'm looking for a way to avoid to download *all* headers PM first. Are you looking for a way to look at the number of messages and see their relative sizes? As far as I am aware you could check the sizes and the number of mails by telnet and using the list command. I believe there is a way of deleting a particular group of messages (say message 301 to 310 for example) DELE 301-309. But I have never tried this so I wouldn't know. It depends on your telnet system. Some you have to delete each message one by one and some you can do many (i.e. thousands, when mac mail isnt set to delete mails from the server). -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.85.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Howdy Alexander, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 8:12:40 PM, Alexander wrotened: Using Telnet and POP protocol requests, it is possible to download the X newest (top X, I mean) messages. So, it IS possible to download the newest X messages indeed. AK That functionality depends on the POP server, not all types of AK servers support the TOP msg n command. I thought that TOP msg n command would only give you one message header at a time... -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.85.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: HTML use (was: Noob question)
Hallo Rick, On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:24:37 -0500GMT (8-11-2006, 0:24 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG Rick moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Rick. ' Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML e-mail. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Being a moderator is like herding cats. pgp7FveDDmdGv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
