Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, May 22, 2009, Dwight A Corrin wrote:

 Evidently my antivirus has auto upgraded, because when I tried to open
 TB it had vanished, and when I extracted the latest version, I was told
 that it was removed becauseW32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected. I had
 the same problem when I tried to move back to 41141.

what antivirus?

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Error exceptions

2009-05-22 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello,
when I closed TB today, I have revealed EAccessViolation,
EBitmap32ImageListLeak or EBitmapLeak errors.


Date: 22 May 2009 06:11:43
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1850/2047 MB
Address: 007077C1
ClassName: EAccessViolation
Message: Access violation at address 007077C1 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of 
address 0024
IsOSException: 1
Modules: 
 0040 20090520201001 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 007077C1 [0040]
 00620060 [0040]
 00C02BE0 [0040]
 00C02B12 [0040]
 00A3DF51 [0040]
 00543071 [0040]
 00542EE6 [0040]
 00542F90 [0040]
 0046BA02 [0040]
 00540C8F [0040]
 0054E831 [0040]
 00C7F755 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 0040630F [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00403044 [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00C7DD54 [0040]
 00C8204B [0040]
 00C820B8 [0040]
 00C86FD0 [0040]



Date: 22 May 2009 06:11:43
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1850/2047 MB
Address: 7C90100B
ClassName: EAccessViolation
Message: Access violation at address 7C90100B in module 'ntdll.dll'. Read of 
address 002B
IsOSException: 1
Modules: 
 7C90 20090209105604 C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
 0040 20090520201001 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 7C90100B [7C90]
 7C9032A6 [7C90]
 7C903275 [7C90]
 7C92AA0A [7C90]
 7C90E485 [7C90]
 00620060 [0040]
 7C919DE8 [7C90]
 7C919DA5 [7C90]
 004414EC [0040]
 00441500 [0040]
 0067B211 [0040]
 00762872 [0040]
 007548AA [0040]
 0046BA02 [0040]
 0046B71A [0040]
 005632F0 [0040]
 00404F9E [0040]
 00461B3F [0040]
 005678B5 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00757661 [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00C0B6DF [0040]
 0056363C [0040]
 0046BA96 [0040]
 0046BAC2 [0040]
 005689C3 [0040]
 7C910058 [7C90]
 7C91144D [7C90]
 7C91147E [7C90]
 7C91145B [7C90]
 0040307E [0040]
 00460C17 [0040]
 00403044 [0040]
 00404BA8 [0040]
 00404F9E [0040]
 004607AF [0040]
 00404BF0 [0040]
 005628DC [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 0056EC71 [0040]
 00567879 [0040]
 00541E98 [0040]
 00542F75 [0040]
 00542F90 [0040]
 0046BA02 [0040]
 00540C8F [0040]
 0054E831 [0040]
 00C7F755 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 0040630F [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 7C910058 [7C90]
 00403044 [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00C7DD54 [0040]
 00C8204B [0040]
 00C820B8 [0040]
 00C86FD0 [0040]



Date: 22 May 2009 06:11:43
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1850/2047 MB
Address: 006FB7F4
ClassName: Exception
Message: Resource leak: 25 instance(s) of TPropertyCollection left
Caller addresses listed below: 
  0012FD6C  0012E73C  0012E60C  0012E47C  0012E40C
  0012E37C  0012E2DC  0012E22C  0012E21C  0012E17C
  0012E0CC  0012E05C  0012DFBC  0012DF7C  0012DF3C
  0012DF1C  0012DEDC  0012DE9C  0012DE6C  0012DE3C
  0012DDFC  0012DD9C  0012DD4C  0012DD1C  0012F8B0
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20090520201001 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 006FB7F4 [0040]
 006FB7EF [0040]
 00C7FAFD [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 0040630F [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00403044 [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00C7DD54 [0040]
 00C8204B [0040]
 00C820B8 [0040]
 00C86FD0 [0040]



Date: 22 May 2009 06:11:43
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1850/2047 MB
Address: 005330CB
ClassName: EBitmap32ImageListLeak
Message: Resource leak: 2 instance(s) of TBitmap32ImageList left
Caller addresses listed below: 
  0010 GM_CreateImageList(AddrBookFavorites)  0010 
GM_CreateImageList(WorkIcons)
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20090520201001 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 005330CB [0040]
 005330C6 [0040]
 005331AC [0040]
 00C7FE57 [0040]
 00403028 [0040]
 00405C38 [0040]
 0040630F [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00403044 [0040]
 00405BAD [0040]
 00C7DD54 [0040]
 00C8204B [0040]
 00C820B8 [0040]
 00C86FD0 [0040]



Date: 22 May 2009 06:11:43
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1850/2047 MB
Address: 0049ABAB
ClassName: 

Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Олег Тофан
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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczyński
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

 Evidently my antivirus has auto upgraded, because when I tried to open
 TB it had vanished, and when I extracted the latest version, I was told
 that it was removed becauseW32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected. I had
 the same problem when I tried to move back to 41141.

I have the same problem with last version of The Bat! and MacAfee antivirus 
software version 3.6.0.603.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
 On Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:19:57 AM, Marek Mikus wrote:
  
  what antivirus? 
  
 mcafee 
  
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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Paul R. Zwiers
Hello Dwight,

Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:41:57 AM, you wrote:

 Evidently my antivirus has auto upgraded, because when I tried to open
 TB it had vanished, and when I extracted the latest version, I was told
 that it was removed becauseW32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected. I had
 the same problem when I tried to move back to 41141.

Same here, still using the official latest release of TheBat, no beta. Matter 
of time before McAfee releases a new new version of the DAT files. They have 
a reputation to uphold when it comes to false negatives after updating :-)

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
 On Friday, May 22, 2009, 3:03:25 AM, Paul R. Zwiers wrote:
  
  Same here, still using the official latest release of TheBat, no beta. Matter
 of time before McAfee releases a new new version of the DAT files. They have
 a reputation to uphold when it comes to false negatives after updating :-)
 
  
 My encounter with their tech support was so absurd, I decided to dump 
 it, and install something else, as they advised. 
  
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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread mse
Hello Marek,

 Evidently my antivirus has auto upgraded, because when I tried to open
 TB it had vanished, and when I extracted the latest version, I was told
 that it was removed becauseW32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected. I had
 the same problem when I tried to move back to 41141.

 what antivirus?

According to virustotal.com not only McAffee is affectetd, see report 
here:

http://www.virustotal.com/de/analisis/d9a4c307c20fff9cf89a7ed81e15e5382900eefc45746f94c8df6116e2832005-1242982538

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jens Franik

Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 at 10:07, Dwight Corrin wrote:

 My encounter with their tech support was so absurd, I decided to dump 
  it, and install something else, as they advised. 
   
That let me remember other companies which also told their customers
to get another better product, if they are not satisfied.

Gosh! I do not remember that companies name...

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jens Franik

Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 at 07:41, Dwight A Corrin wrote:

 W32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected

No Problem here with actual AVG Antivirus (registered), no TBplugin
but Personal Email Scanner activated.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:50:19, Олег Тофан wrote:

 McAfee

Why am I not surprised?

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mse,

On Fri, 22 May 2009 11:04:00 +0159 GMT (22/May/09, 16:05 +0700 GMT),
mse wrote:

 Evidently my antivirus has auto upgraded, because when I tried to open
 TB it had vanished, and when I extracted the latest version, I was told
 that it was removed becauseW32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected. I had
 the same problem when I tried to move back to 41141.

 what antivirus?

m According to virustotal.com not only McAffee is affectetd, see report 
m here:

m 
http://www.virustotal.com/de/analisis/d9a4c307c20fff9cf89a7ed81e15e5382900eefc45746f94c8df6116e2832005-1242982538

How can this happen?

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, May 22, 2009, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

m According to virustotal.com not only McAffee is affectetd, see report
m here:

m 
http://www.virustotal.com/de/analisis/d9a4c307c20fff9cf89a7ed81e15e5382900eefc45746f94c8df6116e2832005-1242982538

 How can this happen?

because Themida protection

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek,

On Fri, 22 May 2009 18:55:59 +0200 GMT (22/May/09, 23:55 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

 How can this happen?

MM because Themida protection

I see. My friend lost his TB! from the HD, it might have been this
problem. I reinstalled it for him.

Is this something one can expect when using TheBat!? Will his next
virus database update delete TB! again?

If so, I must stop recommending TB!. It's just not acceptable.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, May 22, 2009, 19:07:09, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 If so, I must stop recommending TB!. It's just not acceptable.

This is antivirus' program - not TB's program. I'm a developer myself,
and I have to deal with this regularly - AV vendors will sometimes
indiscriminantely flag a whole class of programs as malware, and
there's little you can do about this, especially if you're not their
customer. Sadly, from my experience, no AV vendor is immune to this,
though some are worse than others.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 22 May 2009, at 17:29:48 [GMT +0200] (which was 17:29 where I
live) Jernej Simončič wrote:

 McAfee

 Why am I not surprised?

I did not experience any problems with Norton Internet Security...

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testing pgp/mime

2009-05-22 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
Broken?

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej,

On Fri, 22 May 2009 19:27:47 +0200 GMT (23/May/09, 0:27 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:

 If so, I must stop recommending TB!. It's just not acceptable.

JS This is antivirus' program - not TB's program. I'm a developer myself,
JS and I have to deal with this regularly - AV vendors will sometimes
JS indiscriminantely flag a whole class of programs as malware, and
JS there's little you can do about this, especially if you're not their
JS customer. Sadly, from my experience, no AV vendor is immune to this,
JS though some are worse than others.

I understand what you say, but for the user, Thunderbird, Eudora or
even Outlook don't have this problem that TB! has. I can explain a
hundred times to him that it is not TB!'s fault, but he will still
choose to use another email client.

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Re: testing pgp/mime

2009-05-22 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Henk,


on Friday, May 22, 2009, at 19:36:45[GMT +0200](which was 19:36 where
I live) you wrote among others:
 Broken?


 Broken?

gpg: Unterschrift vom 05/22/09 19:36:40 mittels RSA-Schlüssel ID B464DD0F
gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von Henk M. de Bruijn
gpg: alias Henk M. de Bruijn hmdebru...@orange.nl
gpg: alias Henk M. de Bruijn hmdebru...@wanadoo.nl
gpg: alias Henk M. de Bruijn henkdebru...@orange.nl
gpg: alias Henk M. de Bruijn henkdebru...@wanadoo.nl
gpg: alias GSWoT:NL11 (www.gswot.org) 
henkdebru...@gswot.org




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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, May 22, 2009, 19:27:47, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 This is antivirus' program - not TB's program.

Grr, I meant problem there, not program...

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Re[2]: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/22/2009  1:54 PM

Hi Thomas,

On 5/22/2009 Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF Hello Jernej,

TF On Fri, 22 May 2009 19:27:47 +0200 GMT (23/May/09, 0:27 +0700 GMT),
TF Jernej Simončič wrote:

 If so, I must stop recommending TB!. It's just not acceptable.

JS This is antivirus' program - not TB's program. I'm a developer myself,
JS and I have to deal with this regularly - AV vendors will sometimes
JS indiscriminantely flag a whole class of programs as malware, and
JS there's little you can do about this, especially if you're not their
JS customer. Sadly, from my experience, no AV vendor is immune to this,
JS though some are worse than others.

TF I understand what you say, but for the user, Thunderbird, Eudora or
TF even Outlook don't have this problem that TB! has. I can explain a
TF hundred times to him that it is not TB!'s fault, but he will still
TF choose to use another email client.

Why don't you educate him on the quality of AV programs. Send him the
link to see the list. It may be an eye opener. Helping him to get away
from McAfee would be a blessing for him (and you?).
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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


JS AV vendors will sometimes indiscriminantely flag a whole class of
JS programs as malware [...]

Well, not in this case. Redlining Themida is hardly indiscriminate.
Themida has a very bad reputation and should not be used by any
program.

Its use is another stone in the cargo hold of the sinking ship that
used to be TheBat.


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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, May 22, 2009, 20:45:08, Alto Speckhardt wrote:

 Well, not in this case. Redlining Themida is hardly indiscriminate.
 Themida has a very bad reputation and should not be used by any
 program.

Does that apply to Inno Setup and NSIS, too? Because they're frequent
targets of AV programs.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


 Well, not in this case. Redlining Themida is hardly indiscriminate.
 Themida has a very bad reputation and should not be used by any
 program.
JS Does that apply to Inno Setup and NSIS, too? 

No, not that I know of. Both can freely be scanned by any scanning 
engine the user deems fit.


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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Oleg Tofan
  I can explain a
 hundred times to him that it is not TB!'s fault, but he will still
 choose to use another email client.

Of course, the easiest  way is .. Other news are not present?
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Re: testing pgp/mime

2009-05-22 Thread Peter Meyns
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Hi Henk,

on  Fri, 22 May 2009 19:36:45 +0200GMT (22.05.2009, 19:36 +0200GMT
here),
you wrote:

HMdB Broken?

Good here too.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jens Franik

Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 at 19:57, Paul Van Noord wrote:

 Why don't you educate him on the quality of AV programs. Send him the
 link to see the list. It may be an eye opener. Helping him to get away
 from McAfee would be a blessing for him (and you?).

Maybe try AVG?
http://www.grisoft.com

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Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-22 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Maxim Masiutin wrote on 21/05/2009 at 07:15:17 +1100 
subject 4.1.14.1 :

 The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41141.rar

F11 and F2 is broken

Reverting back to 4.1.11.30

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Jens Franik

Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 at 19:42, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 I understand what you say, but for the user, Thunderbird, Eudora or
 even Outlook don't have this problem that TB! has.

Thunderbird is OpenSource
Eudora i do not know - free for personal use?
Outlook is included in Office

But other Mailclients must have Software Protection against piracy.
I do understand that, what i do not understand is, that Themida does
not give their stuff to AV Vendors, that it is scanned to be ok.

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Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-22 Thread Mackley
 F11 and F2 is broken

Can not confirm here

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Re: Postponed never ending story

2009-05-22 Thread Jens Franik

Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2009 at 06:04, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Thank you for poiting a bug: when time is set to 0:00, the
 Postponed Delivery isn't set correctly. Could you please add it to BT?

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7609

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Axel Finger
This time no problem with Norman Antivirus.
But earlier Norman has put some versions of thebat.exe in
quarantine...

My solution:

Put thebat.exe in the Exclusion List of your AV Software until next
AV-update. Or for ever.

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 Evidently my antivirus has auto upgraded, because when I tried to open
 TB it had vanished, and when I extracted the latest version, I was told
 that it was removed becauseW32/IRCbot.gen.z had been detected. I had
 the same problem when I tried to move back to 41141.

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Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Hendrik,

Friday, May 22, 2009, 10:18:44 PM, you wrote:

HO F11 and F2 is broken

Can't confirm...


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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


JF But other Mailclients must have Software Protection against piracy.

It never ceases to amaze me that software companies make war against
their paying customers. Non-paying pirates don't have a problem with
software protection - there are ways. The paying customer does not
have these ways, and he has to suffer from the hostile mechanisms
applied by the developers.

It's as if the developers are actually trying to kill their own
business.

As a matter of fact, they are succeeding.


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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul,

On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:57:13 -0400 GMT (23/May/09, 0:57 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:

TF I understand what you say, but for the user, Thunderbird, Eudora or
TF even Outlook don't have this problem that TB! has. I can explain a
TF hundred times to him that it is not TB!'s fault, but he will still
TF choose to use another email client.

PVN Why don't you educate him on the quality of AV programs. Send him
PVN the link to see the list. It may be an eye opener.

Why would I do that? If installing and using TB! requires an education
in AV software first, Ritlabs should bundle that with the product.
However, I guarantee you that people will choose an email client that
does not require this additional hurdle.

PVN Helping him to get away from McAfee would be a blessing for him
PVN (and you?).

I'm not using McAffee. And I won't go into a battle which AV software
is better. It is Ritlabs' problem that some AV software labels TB! as
bad and deletes and quarantines it, so Ritlabs must deal with it if
they want. All we can do on this list is make them aware.

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Re: testing pgp/mime

2009-05-22 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 22 May 2009, at 21:52:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:52 where I
live) Peter Meyns wrote:

 on  Fri, 22 May 2009 19:36:45 +0200GMT (22.05.2009, 19:36 +0200GMT
 here),
 you wrote:

HMdB Broken?

 Good here too.

Thanks guys!

My wanadoo e-mailaddresses have been revoked. You can refresh my key
B464DD0F at www.biglumber.com or at pool.sks-keyservers.net

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processors
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