Re: [Virus-Error] 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Juraj Matel
Hello folks,


 Themida Virus

ESS 4.0.424.0 / VDB 4248 have no problem at this time.

Best regards,
--
Juraj Matel
email: j.ma...@atlas.sk
web:   www.thebat.sk

[ TheBat! v4.2.7.2 + Windows 7 build.7100 ]



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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, July 15, 2009, Jens Franik wrote:

 you can ignore it, themida is exe packer, AV reports it can not check file.

 I trust my Virus Software, i never had any problems.

 Maybe i could ignore it, but this should be fixed - thats the way
 such things should go.

Grisoft is our customer, they are using The Bat!, so I have asked them
about Themida detection and developer told me, it will be fixed in todays
virus definitions.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.7.2
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.2
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Guten Tag Marek Mikus,


 Grisoft is our customer, they are using The Bat!, so I have asked them
 about Themida detection and developer told me, it will be fixed in todays
 virus definitions.

Great. A security product is not reporting a potential threat because
of lobbying. Just what we need, it definitly makes you feel safe about
using that product.

What exactly have they promised to do? Remove Themida detection or 
including a TheBat known-good signature?


-- 
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Alto Speckhardt
mailto:alto.speckha...@gmx.de

TheBat v4.2.6


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Re: 4.2.7.2 (Virusdetection of some Scanners - List of 16.07.2009 10:58 CET)

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello folks,

as you all seem to be worried about the Virus detection in the_bat.exe I was 
running a check on www.virustotal.com with the following result (due to format 
I have to post in HTML).



File tb4272.rar received on 2009.07.16 09:02:27 (UTC)
Result: 5/41 (12.2%)
Email:




Antivirus
Version
Last Update
Result
a-squared
4.5.0.24
2009.07.16
-
AhnLab-V3
5.0.0.2
2009.07.16
-
AntiVir
7.9.0.215
2009.07.16
-
Antiy-AVL
2.0.3.7
2009.07.16
-
Authentium
5.1.2.4
2009.07.16
W32/Heuristic-THX!Eldorado
Avast
4.8.1335.0
2009.07.16
-
AVG
8.5.0.387
2009.07.15
Win32/Themida
BitDefender
7.2
2009.07.16
-
CAT-QuickHeal
10.00
2009.07.16
-
ClamAV
0.94.1
2009.07.16
-
Comodo
1668
2009.07.16
-
DrWeb
5.0.0.12182
2009.07.16
-
eSafe
7.0.17.0
2009.07.15
-
eTrust-Vet
31.6.6617
2009.07.15
-
F-Prot
4.4.4.56
2009.07.16
W32/Heuristic-THX!Eldorado
F-Secure
8.0.14470.0
2009.07.16
-
Fortinet
3.120.0.0
2009.07.16
-
GData
19
2009.07.16
-
Ikarus
T3.1.1.64.0
2009.07.16
-
Jiangmin
11.0.706
2009.07.16
-
K7AntiVirus
7.10.793
2009.07.15
-
Kaspersky
7.0.0.125
2009.07.16
-
McAfee
5677
2009.07.15
-
McAfee+Artemis
5677
2009.07.15
Artemis!45BB7D458EA5
McAfee-GW-Edition
6.8.5
2009.07.16
Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.K!92
Microsoft
1.4803
2009.07.16
-
NOD32
4248
2009.07.16
-
Norman
6.01.09
2009.07.15
-
nProtect
2009.1.8.0
2009.07.16
-
Panda
10.0.0.14
2009.07.15
-
PCTools
4.4.2.0
2009.07.15
-
Prevx
3.0
2009.07.16
-
Rising
21.38.31.00
2009.07.16
-
Sophos
4.43.0
2009.07.16
-
Sunbelt
3.2.1858.2
2009.07.16
-
Symantec
1.4.4.12
2009.07.16
-
TheHacker
6.3.4.3.368
2009.07.15
-
TrendMicro
8.950.0.1094
2009.07.16
-
VBA32
3.12.10.8
2009.07.15
-
ViRobot
2009.7.16.1838
2009.07.16
-
VirusBuster
4.6.5.0
2009.07.15
-



Always remember: mostly every scanner makes some mistakes. However keep an eye 
on which scanner you really do trust. I have some favourites. But even they are 
failing sometimes...

So, bottom line: the EXE is clean (as to be expected) - but it is packed with a 
runtime packer. That method many new viruses use for being not detected. Why 
Ritlabs is doing that is not completely clear for me. If it is because of 
piracy it may make sense. However the dark side also has methods to break these 
protections... So maybe it is worth it to rethink the way of delivering the 
EXE's to prevent confusion of the real users.

-- 
Best regards,
 Martin
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Re: 4.2.7.2 (Virusdetection of some Scanners - List of 16.07.2009 10:58 CET)

2009-07-16 Thread mse
Hello Martin,

 Hello folks,

 as you all seem to be worried about the Virus detection in the_bat.exe
 I was running a check on www.virustotal.com with the following result
 (due to format I have to post in HTML).

 File  tb4272.rar received on  2009.07.16 09:02:27 (UTC)
 Result:  5/41 (12.2%)
 Email:

Oh that's interesting; I checked the executable without extracting the 
archive a few hours earlier and I got only four identifications:

http://www.virustotal.com/de/analisis/35e401d509f6a68da2e86147bf25073b0a01c3f3cf9c8fd30b173f0ff87ea9df-1247689824

-- 
Best regards,
mse

Using The Bat! v4.2.7.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600 Service Pack 3




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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Alto,

@16-Jul-2009, 09:54 +0200 (16-Jul 08:54 here) Alto Speckhardt [AS] in
mid:1897183754.20090716095...@treadstone79.de said to Marek:

 Grisoft is our customer, they are using The Bat!, so I have asked them
 about Themida detection and developer told me, it will be fixed in todays
 virus definitions.

AS Great. A security product is not reporting a potential threat because
AS of lobbying.

Incorrect. Antivirus software from all vendors has a long history of
false positives. Reporting them back to Grisoft enables the writers to
correct their bugs. This is not 'lobbying'.

AS Just what we need, it definitly makes you feel safe about
AS using that product.

I stopped using AVG because of the growing instances of false
positives, bloat, loss of speed and crashes. I now use Avast. It
reports no problem with the last TB version at all.

AS What exactly have they promised to do? Remove Themida detection or
AS including a TheBat known-good signature?

Improve their Themida detection so that it doesn't make mistakes.

-- 
Cheers --  //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v4.2.7.2 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1
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Re: 4.2.7.2 (Virusdetection of some Scanners - List of 16.07.2009 10:58 CET)

2009-07-16 Thread Mackley
Martin wrote:

 Why Ritlabs is doing that is not completely clear for me. If it is
 because of piracy it may make sense.

Yes, it's anti-piracy strategy.

Cracks for 4.2 version do not work... there are some leaked out
working serials out there but maybe they will be blacklisted ;-)
They must buy TheBat!, it's a good product not so expensive (see the
MS Office Outlook cost...)


Ciao

-- 

Mackley
Italy


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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Guten Tag Marck D Pearlstone,


 Incorrect. Antivirus software from all vendors has a long history of
 false positives. Reporting them back to Grisoft enables the writers to
 correct their bugs. This is not 'lobbying'.

It's not like AVG had a malfunction. It behaves exactly as it has been
designed and exactly as the user expect it to behave:

- Check something that's known to be no threat, be silent. 

- Check something that's known to be a threat, alert. 

- Check something that can't be evaluated and just might be a threat,
by all means, _do_ alert.

If AVG behaves differently in the future it is not doing its job.

The only possible solution might be to add the TheBat signature to
AVG's definition file so AVG can say ok, I can't check this, but I
know this particular file and am positive that it's not a threat.


AS What exactly have they promised to do? Remove Themida detection or
AS including a TheBat known-good signature?
 Improve their Themida detection so that it doesn't make mistakes.

You were there when Marek discussed the issue with Grisoft? Great,
then maybe you could clarify whether they have indeed deliberatly
damaged their own product on RIT's request by ignoring Themida at all
or if they actually took the trouble to green-list the TheBat
executable? The latter would be quite a job for them, because
obviously they'd need a new signature each time a new version of
TheBat is released.


-- 
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Alto Speckhardt
mailto:alto.speckha...@gmx.de

TheBat v4.2.6


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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Dierk Haasis
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:15:07 +0200, Alto Speckhardt
alto.speckha...@gmx.de wrote:

- Check something that can't be evaluated and just might be a threat,
by all means, _do_ alert.

This one leading to false and right positives. To weed out the, well,
weed report false positives so the developers can improve their
algorithms or databases. Where's the problem?



-- 
Dierk
[DH² Publishing]
www.DH2Publishing.info
Writing and Imaging



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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Alto,

@16-Jul-2009, 13:15 +0200 (16-Jul 12:15 here) Alto Speckhardt [AS] in
mid:851663711.20090716131...@treadstone79.de said to Marck:

... snip
 Improve their Themida detection so that it doesn't make mistakes.

AS You were there when Marek discussed the issue with Grisoft?

No, but as a software publisher, I have often been in contact with
various AV publishers about false positives. They are human. They are
programmers. They make mistakes in some updates to the rules they
issue and these have to be pointed out to them.

This isn't about compromising the integrity of the AV database. Far
from it. It is about making the rules work properly. A false positive
is just as wrong as a completely missed virus. Both require that
corrections be made by the AV publisher.

Are you also claiming that nobody can report a new virus because
adding its detection rules to the database violates the integrity of
the AV software publisher? Two sides of the same coin.

A classic case was when Norton issued a bug ridden database update at
the end of business at the start of a long weekend. We were plagued
with false positives for days. As were many other publishers, since it
was falsely identifying the footprint of any InstallMaker (a lesser
known but standard setup creator) wrapped installer as infected. It
wasn't corrected until the following Wednesday. But it was corrected.

... snip

-- 
Cheers --  //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v4.2.7.2 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1
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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Rick,

am Mittwoch, 15. Juli 2009 um 23:54 schrieben Sie:

 Would not the effort be better spent getting AVG to fix their
 software and signature database?

Who would be the best to do so?
Answer: Ritlabs itself, because they guarantee that their Software
contains no Virus to the People of AVG - best and shortest Solution.

Should i give you a direct eMail to the responsible Team of AVG? Then
i will pick up the Phone and call them to get such an Mail Adress...

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Ian A. White,

am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 um 02:08 schrieben Sie:

 I don't know how that last message of mine came through as HTML. I 
 have these lists set to default to plain text.

I have been confused, because i had no Tab to view it in Plain Text.

I remember that i recently had a Tab called Text which showed up the
Message in Plain ASCII...

Maybe another Bug, or is there any Explanation?

(Or should i rewrite my old Perl Code to filter and convert any
incoming Message to Plain Text?)

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Marek Mikus,

am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 um 09:44 schrieben Sie:

 Maybe i could ignore it, but this should be fixed - thats the way
 such things should go.

 Grisoft is our customer, they are using The Bat!, so I have asked them
 about Themida detection and developer told me, it will be fixed in todays
 virus definitions.

Ok Marek, i am suprised, but very happy you brought the Things back to
a suitable Position - You could be a good Employee of Ritlabs and a
grow up for their skills - as i am a bit egoistical, i dont mind you
doing their job - only the result is important to me...

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Alto Speckhardt,

am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 um 09:54 schrieben Sie:

 What exactly have they promised to do? Remove Themida detection or 
 including a TheBat known-good signature?

Hopefully they try the way in the middle, maybe they get the new
Versions and scan them for the Database?

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, July 16, 2009, Jens Franik wrote:

 I have been confused, because i had no Tab to view it in Plain Text.

 I remember that i recently had a Tab called Text which showed up the
 Message in Plain ASCII...

 Maybe another Bug, or is there any Explanation?

check Preferences dialog, section Viewer/Editor, what entry You have
selected in View HTML messages using. there You can select what tabs will
TB display and which tab will be delected as default.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.7.2
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.2
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, July 16, 2009, Jens Franik wrote:

 Grisoft is our customer, they are using The Bat!, so I have asked them
 about Themida detection and developer told me, it will be fixed in todays
 virus definitions.

 Ok Marek, i am suprised, but very happy you brought the Things back to
 a suitable Position - You could be a good Employee of Ritlabs and a
 grow up for their skills - as i am a bit egoistical, i dont mind you
 doing their job - only the result is important to me...

AVG and Avast are czech companies and Eset is slovak one, I have good
contacts there because we have discussed TB's API and cooperation during
last years, of course this is important to our company too, if our
customers requests cooperation between The Bat! and their Antivirus.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.7.2
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.2
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




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[UR] 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin,

am Mittwoch, 15. Juli 2009 um 21:56 schrieben Sie:

 The Bat! 4.2.7.2 is available

Up and Running...

After updating the AVG Database from
AVG 8.5.392 registered with Database 270.13.15/2239
to
AVG 8.5.392 registered with Database 270.13.16/2241 (actual)

i have been able to copy and start the Executable /thanks Marek/

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2
The Bat! 4.2.7.2 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2



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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:32:20 +0100, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

No, but as a software publisher, I have often been in contact with
various AV publishers about false positives. They are human. They are
programmers. They make mistakes in some updates to the rules they
issue and these have to be pointed out to them.

Did you read the Themida discussion that Marek Mikus linked to?
This discussion took place two years ago. So Ritlabs could have
known what they got themselves into when they decided to protect
their software with Themida.

It's just the same story all over again. Years ago there used to
exist an anti-spam plugin named BayesIt! There have been numerous
discussions about problems with BayesIt! on this list. Still,
although it was crystal clear to anyone that it didn't work as
advertised, Ritlabs decided to bundle it with TB!

It is very simple. With Themida you _know_ you will run into
trouble. And in the meantime the piracy just goes on.


Arjan


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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, July 16, 2009, Arjan de Groot wrote:

 It is very simple. With Themida you _know_ you will run into
 trouble. And in the meantime the piracy just goes on.

please clarify how piracy goes on with protected exe with impossible
cracking

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.7.2
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.2
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:11:00 +0200, Marek Mikus wrote:

It is very simple. With Themida you _know_ you will run into
trouble. And in the meantime the piracy just goes on.

please clarify how piracy goes on with protected exe with 
impossible cracking

Google is your friend.


Arjan
-- 
Winamp now playing: Blur - Battle


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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Marek,

Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:49:53 PM, you wrote:
 The Bat! 4.2.7.2 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4272.rar

 Unfortunately, I cannot run it because the AVG antivirus reports
 Win32/Themida in the code.

 you can ignore it, themida is exe packer, AV reports it can not check file.

 Don't lie, Marek. You very well know Themida is far more than an exe
 packer. And no, the thing the AV reported is not that it could not
 check the file because it is packed (what you just said, just
 paraphrased); what the AV reported is that the thing looks nasty to
 it because it tries to do suspicious and harmful things (and this
 particular pattern is linked to Themida DRM software).

 I don't mind you encouraging users to go on and install it -- or, at
 least, I am not surprised, you are making money off it -- but telling
 them to ignore AV alerts and resorting to lying is a bit unethical,
 don't you think?

-- 
Best regards,
 Robert Tomanekmailto:tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org



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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, July 16, 2009, Robert Tomanek wrote:

 you can ignore it, themida is exe packer, AV reports it can not check file.

  Don't lie, Marek. You very well know Themida is far more than an exe
  packer. And no, the thing the AV reported is not that it could not
  check the file because it is packed (what you just said, just

AVG confirmed this as false positive and fixed in newest virusbase, what do
You need more?

  paraphrased); what the AV reported is that the thing looks nasty to
  it because it tries to do suspicious and harmful things (and this
  particular pattern is linked to Themida DRM software).

there is a link to description about Themida in this dialog, You can check
before You do any action.

  I don't mind you encouraging users to go on and install it -- or, at
  least, I am not surprised, you are making money off it -- but telling
  them to ignore AV alerts and resorting to lying is a bit unethical,
  don't you think?

hey, guy, we are in TBBETA, this is not forum for newbies to know how PC
works, testers reported they can not run new exe file, I wrote what can be
done. Nothing more, nothing less.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.7.2
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.2
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




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Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


 It is very simple. With Themida you _know_ you will run into
 trouble. And in the meantime the piracy just goes on.
 please clarify how piracy goes on with protected exe with impossible
 cracking

There is no such thing as impossible cracking. The program can be
executed, that means it can be decoded. You can make that more or less
difficult, but all that's needed is someone who enjoys the challenge
and a generic unpacker will be available faster than you can say
impossible what?

Don't you know the story about that old game, Buck Rogers I believe
it was? The developers had implemented bullet-proof (or, in this case,
laser-proof) copy protection. They were so sure and so proud of
themselves that they put a message into the code:

   If you can read this, call Buck at phone number.

A crafty hacker got his hands on the program the day it was released. 
He didn't really need it, but was intrigued by the bullet-proof 
protection. So he cracked the protection - it took him a few hours. 
When he happened onto the message, he just for the fun of it dialled it 
up:


Hello?
Hi... Ähm - is this Buck...?
What??? You can't have it beaten already!! We just started sales this 
monday, it's not possible!!

(Listen to the account of a contemporary witness in BBS: The
documentary, available at http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/; - a
tribute to The Good Ole' Times :-) )


-- 
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Alto Speckhardt
mailto:alto.speckha...@gmx.de

TheBat v4.2.6


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Description: PGP signature

 Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Marek Mikus,

am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 um 15:12 schrieben Sie:

 I have been confused, because i had no Tab to view it in Plain Text.

 I remember that i recently had a Tab called Text which showed up the
 Message in Plain ASCII...

 Maybe another Bug, or is there any Explanation?

 check Preferences dialog, section Viewer/Editor, what entry You have
 selected in View HTML messages using. there You can select what tabs will
 TB display and which tab will be delected as default.

Hm, it must have changed with magic, thank you for the hint, i did not
expect the Options change themselfes...

Now it is like it has been.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





 Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: 4.2.7.2

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Arjan de Groot,

am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 um 17:47 schrieben Sie:

It is very simple. With Themida you _know_ you will run into
trouble. And in the meantime the piracy just goes on.

please clarify how piracy goes on with protected exe with 
impossible cracking

 Google is your friend.

While declaring, i am a Hacker, but not a Cracker - i see
possibilities to find ways to do that bad things, but i am not
interessed into it.

And as Marketing/Sales, i would point out: The best way to avoid it,
is to make a good price, usable features and roadmaps which are
pointing on business and advanced use - those people will pay for a
good piece of software, even a crack might be availiable - and so do
i do.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





 Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re[2]: 4.2.7.2 (Virusdetection of some Scanners - List of 16.07.2009 10:58 CET)

2009-07-16 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Mackley,

Thursday, July 16, 2009, 13:13:50, you wrote:

Cracks for 4.2 version do not work... there are some leaked out
working serials out there but maybe they will be blacklisted ;-)
They must buy TheBat!, it's a good product not so expensive (see the
MS Office Outlook cost...)
Just send leaked serials to Alexander Petrari a...@ritlabs.com ;-)

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin 
Ritlabs SRL
http://www.ritlabs.com/



 Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Anti-Virus false alert

2009-07-16 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

  The developers of Themida have just release an update, this might have been 
the reason why we've got false positives; the developers of anti-virus software 
might not have updated the databases yet. 

  We have also updated the codesigning certificate. It might also have been a 
reason.

  I wonder why the antivirus developers don't take our authenticode signature 
into consideration.


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin 
Ritlabs SRL
http://www.ritlabs.com/



 Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Anti-Virus false alert

2009-07-16 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin,

am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 um 22:20 schrieben Sie:

 I wonder why the antivirus developers don't take our authenticode
 signature into consideration.

Maybe you should ask them/talk to them officially.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de





 Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html