Re: 5.0.0.153
Hello Roger, MM The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500153.rar MM [-] Negative counters in Virtual Folders issue (Beta issue) RP What about fixing the other virtual folder display problems? Virtual RP folders do not all update when changes are made in one of them, counter RP changes are only made to the VF in focus. Can't confirm this, VFs work as expected here. Please give more details/steps to reproduce -- Cheers! Stefan ...Computer modelers simulate it first. Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV on Message Browsing
Hello TBBETA Members! Had just opened up TB, which includes automatic retrieval of mail from several POP3 accounts. Mail Ticker ran with roughly 20 new messages - Alt+o to open its message browser window. - Ctrl+Home to get to the first message. First message was shown briefly then went all invisible, that is, there was just a white row in the browse message window instead of sender, subject etc. = AV occurred Upon clicking OK on the error = same AV occurred and so on. Had to kill TB via Task Manager. Error message as screen grab at http://screencast.com/t/yGnGjwTt -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Erwartungen sind das Brot der Enttäuschung. [Dierk Haasis] Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 - fix for transparent image
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:28:07 AM, you wrote: MM than uninstall those 4.2.44 MSIs first. In what way (How)? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.2.44 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 3:29:21) on Dual Intel Pentium III Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.153 - Mail Ticker missing subject
The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500153.rar The Mail Ticker shows '0 new messages' in the subject for the first message, '1 new messages' for the second, etc. rather than the mail messages subject. Confirmations? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.2.44.2 - fix for transparent image
Hello Maxim, On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, at 01:28:07 [which was on Monday at 23:28 where I live] you wrote: 4.2.44.2 fixes transparent images in HTML and a rare AV when printing to non-default printer. This AV was introduced in version 1.62r. - If you have used 4.2.42 or earlier, just install the follwing MSIs over. This was me. ... -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.153
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:00:20 AM, among other things, you wrote: ST Hello Roger, MM The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500153.rar MM [-] Negative counters in Virtual Folders issue (Beta issue) RP What about fixing the other virtual folder display problems? Virtual RP folders do not all update when changes are made in one of them, counter RP changes are only made to the VF in focus. ST Can't confirm this, VFs work as expected here. Please give more ST details/steps to reproduce 1. Enter a virtual folder which has new unread messages, that is with headers still displayed in bold. 2. Mark these messages as read, that is so their headers are now displayed normally (NOT bold) 3. The virtual folder is still displayed in bold. The virtual folder will only display as normal (NOT bold) if TB is closed and reopened. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: TheBat! v5.0.0.153 RC3(Professional) POP3 , on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GPG/PGP a fix is badly needed
Hello Miroslav, Monday, March 28, 2011, 10:40:00 AM, you wrote: Hi Sean, I use gpg, and the problem has a couple f bf entries confirmed. Where is the BT entry? I can't find it. I found the BT entry https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8109 This issue was reported on August 22,2010 by me Sean -- GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer .tel http://rima.tel/ I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong pgpfEbcC7Az1w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.153
Hello, Saturday, March 26, 2011 at 02:41:32, Maxim wrote : MM [-] Negative counters in Virtual Folders issue (Beta issue) Don't agree: the bug is still there (look attachment). -- Regards, Francis mailto:fran...@dhumes.fr French translator of TB! and ASS Message handmade on TB! 5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows 7 7601 AntispamSniper for TB! 3.2.6.4attachment: VF-NegCount.png Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.153
Hello, Saturday, March 26, 2011 at 02:41:32, Maxim wrote : MM [-] Negative counters in Virtual Folders issue (Beta issue) Don't agree: the bug is still there (look attachment). I have had a similar problem intermittently -- Rick Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. - James Dean v5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book .153
Hello Bat People, Open the address book from the main menu in .153 and the cursor is in Search Results again instead of Personal Folders. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:newmangr...@gmail.com = Using The Bat! v5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows 7 version 6 Build 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
duplicate messages in Sent Mail
Sveiki, Can someone deny or confirm? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8537 -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! for Linux
I understand that the purpose of the tbbeta list is to debug the current TB! beta version, but perhaps this suggestion has a place here. This post was sent using TB! v. 3.99.3 on OpenSuse v.11.4 under Wine 1.3.12 with near to full functionality. I am no longer a MS Windows user and do not expect to return to being one. OTOH, I am still a TB! user (since v.1.34) and would like to continue being one. But I am also a Linux user and strongly suggest that RIT Labs make an effort to port The Bat! to this superior Operating System, so I can use it with with my OpenOffice, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Seamonkey, Dr. Web and Nero versions for Linux (and other Unix-like Operating Systems). As I understand it, porting Delphi to Linux is also possible and Windows will continue to lose ground as more computer users become aware of the advantages that Open Code Community Based OS's have to offer. (winehq.org mentions that v. 3 of TB! will run under Wine, but not version 4. How about a linux version of TB! 5)? Douglas Hinds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylix_(software) Danny Thorpe seems to have been largely responsible for getting Borland to fund a Linux version of Delphi, and he did a lot of the work necessary to make the Delphi compiler produce Linux executables. While both Delphi and Kylix run on 32-bit Intel processors, Linux uses different register conventions than Windows and, of course, the executable and library file formats are different; see DLL, EXE, ELF for details. ... Kylix will run under more recent Linux distributions but requires some research and additional configuration (e.g. having an older version of glibc available, and making other changes to the default environment). In 2009 Embarcadero posted the current Delphi and C++ Builder roadmap. As part of project Delphi X cross compilation for Mac and Linux is planned. Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book .153
Hallo Richard, On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:39:36 -0400GMT (29-3-2011, 17:39 , where I live), you wrote: RN Open the address book from the main menu in .153 and the cursor is in Search Results RN again instead of Personal Folders. Confirmed -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator.Com found ,.. restore topic.on [y/n]? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpALktN8oHCd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! for Linux
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 17:39:18, Douglas Hinds wrote: But I am also a Linux user and strongly suggest that RIT Labs make an effort to port The Bat! to this superior Operating System, As an advanced user of both Windows and Linux, I can only disagree with Linux being superior - while it has it place, and it does some things better than Windows, it's still far from being a good end-user experience on a desktop, both from UI and management points of view. so I can use it with with my OpenOffice, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Seamonkey, Dr. Web and Nero versions for Linux (and other Unix-like Operating Systems). OpenOffice.org, Opera, Chrome, Firefox and the Mozilla Suite were designed from ground up to be portable. I don't know what Dr. Web is, and the last time I looked at Nero, it was using an outdated GUI library on Linux. As I understand it, porting Delphi to Linux is also possible and Windows will continue to lose ground as more computer users become aware of the advantages that Open Code Community Based OS's have to offer. While there used to be Kylix, it was never really stable, and while backend code could be used with not too many changes, the GUI would have to be redone completely, which is a daunting task for a program like The Bat (since it uses a lot of custom controls, some of which are 3rd party; previously mentioned Opera had it's GUI code rewritten from scratch when it started with serious cross-platform support in version 7 - this is just not feasible for a small company like RitLabs). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] It ain't necessarily so. -- Gershwin's Law Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: duplicate messages in Sent Mail
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:43:54 AM, Vilius Šumskas wrote: Can someone deny or confirm? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8537 yes, I just took a look, and last message I sent is there twice. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: duplicate messages in Sent Mail
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:20:50 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: Can someone deny or confirm? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8537 yes, I just took a look, and last message I sent is there twice. and after I sent this message I checked back to see whether it doubled, and whether the previous doubled message continued to be, thinking it wouldn't since those before it weren't. I surmised correctly that the previously double appearance would be gone, but the new message was not doubled. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: duplicate messages in Sent Mail
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:24:07 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: I surmised correctly that the previously double appearance would be gone, but the new message was not doubled. but then this one was. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: duplicate messages in Sent Mail
Sveiki, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 7:25:03 PM, you wrote: On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:24:07 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: I surmised correctly that the previously double appearance would be gone, but the new message was not doubled. but then this one was. Yeah, and it gets even funnier when you have Sent Mail selected and send couple of messages. Some messages appear in the folder twice, some once, some disappear completely :) This is with default synchronization (or download as they called now) settings. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! for Linux
After I stated: But I am also a Linux user and strongly suggest that RIT Labs make an effort to port The Bat! to this superior Operating System, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Jernej Simončič replied from Poland: As an advanced user of both Windows and Linux, I can only disagree with Linux being superior - while it has it place, and it does some things better than Windows, it's still far from being a good end-user experience on a desktop, both from UI and management points of view. so I can use it with with my OpenOffice, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Seamonkey, Dr. Web and Nero versions for Linux (and other Unix-like Operating Systems). OpenOffice.org, Opera, Chrome, Firefox and the Mozilla Suite were designed from ground up to be portable. I don't know what Dr. Web is DrWeb is a Moscow based company that produces Security Software (i.e. Antivirus, Anti Spyware and Firewall) http://drweb.com/ and the last time I looked at Nero, it was using an outdated GUI library on Linux. It ran fine on LinuxMint 9 but looks for something it lacks on OpenSuse 11.4 (I just recently switched). As I understand it, porting Delphi to Linux is also possible and Windows will continue to lose ground as more computer users become aware of the advantages that Open Code Community Based OS's have to offer. While there used to be Kylix, it was never really stable, and while backend code could be used with not too many changes, the GUI would have to be redone completely, which is a daunting task for a program like The Bat (since it uses a lot of custom controls, some of which are 3rd party; previously mentioned Opera had it's GUI code rewritten from scratch when it started with serious cross-platform support in version 7 - this is just not feasible for a small company like RitLabs). Unless they decided that it was worth their while - that a market large enough to justify the added effort was likely to develop among Linux users. I didn't get a reply from Stef regarding this issue via direct mail some time ago, maybe he or Max would care to comment about it here on tbbeta (which I'm glad to see is posting my messages now that I've change ISP's). IAC, thanks for your comments, Jernej. -- Best regards, Douglasmailto:cede...@gmx.com Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mouse over URL
On Monday, March 28, 2011 at 13:49 (which was Monday, March 28, 2011 at 19:49 where I am) Simon Martin wrote: This mostly does not work for me. I mouse over a text or image href and I don't get any hint about the real URL. This is a really important and simple anti-phishing measure so it is kind of fundamental to me. Agreed. I also miss this simple method of detecting forged links. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 The Bat! v5.0.0.153 RC3; ; AJS v24.58172; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressgroup counters
Hallo Maurice, On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:22:18 +0200GMT (29-3-2011, 23:22 , where I live), you wrote: MS I have quite a number of groups in my address book. Likewise MS Yesterday and today while working on a number of updates I noticed MS that the counter in the 'total' column does not match with the MS number of group members that is listed in the status bar. Can't confirm -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator (n): see also god, dictator, egotist, oppressor, slimeball. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpALB2MlY1KR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressgroup counters
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 at 00:15 Roelof Otten wrote: MS Yesterday and today while working on a number of updates I noticed MS that the counter in the 'total' column does not match with the MS number of group members that is listed in the status bar. Can't confirm Let me show an example. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 The Bat! v5.0.0.153 RC3; ; AJS v24.58172; MyMacros 1.11a; attachment: 20110329@165601 Image 000.png Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! for Linux
Jernej, On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 17:39:18, Douglas Hinds wrote: But I am also a Linux user and strongly suggest that RIT Labs make an effort to port The Bat! to this superior Operating System, As an advanced user of both Windows and Linux, I can only disagree with Linux being superior - while it has it place, and it does some things better than Windows, it's still far from being a good end-user experience on a desktop, both from UI and management points of view. Agreed. Linux is essentially a programmer's OS. Or a platform that IT guys can lock down so that servers will run indefinitely (almost). But from the average user's standpoint (who have very little understanding of what goes on in the bowels of an OS), Linux is a wild alien landscape. so I can use it with with my OpenOffice, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Seamonkey, Dr. Web and Nero versions for Linux (and other Unix-like Operating Systems). OpenOffice.org, Opera, Chrome, Firefox and the Mozilla Suite were designed from ground up to be portable. I don't know what Dr. Web is, and the last time I looked at Nero, it was using an outdated GUI library on Linux. As I understand it, porting Delphi to Linux is also possible and Windows will continue to lose ground as more computer users become aware of the advantages that Open Code Community Based OS's have to offer. You are a Linux evangelist. And you probably wholeheartedly believe this. Nevertheless, the groundswell has been so long coming that I fear it got lost in the forest. And my sister who is an accountant simply refuses to use anything that doesn't come with a MS imprimatur. Nothing else can be trusted. So says she. -- Gleason Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
