Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, M Can someone confirm? Is it perhaps a known issue? In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this change, but to no avail. Oh no! :-( After years of using the Space bar (on the Message List) instead of Ctrl+M to mark a message as read and properly triggering Read filters I now have to change my whole set up. I don't like this because, among other things, many times the messages I am reading are short enough so that, to read them, I don't even have to change focus to the message pane and use the smart Space bar to scroll them. Just read them and, when done, hit Space to mark it as read. Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message I'm reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't move to any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this case? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[5.1] Replied filters trigger too early
Hello all, Similarly to the Read filters I reported yesterday, I use a set of Replied filters, also based in AB groups, that move both the replied message and the reply to appropriated folder. Just a while ago I was replying to a message from my brother. I quoted a first paragraph and wrote my reply to it and, when I switch to the message pane to select and quote another paragraph... Uh! Where is the message I was replying to! Has it just disappeared? No, Replied filters had been triggered and my brother's message had already been moved from Inbox-Known to his personal folder. I don't know if what I have called 'Replied filters triggering too early' is a bug or if it is WAD in v5. In any case, I think it should be fixed (or changed if WAD). Aside of the problem of loosing sight of the message being replied, what if when I am half done with my reply I decide to Cancel my reply? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Miguel, Monday, April 16, 2012, 8:32:16 AM, among other things, you wrote: M Hello Roger, M M Can someone confirm? Is it perhaps a known issue? In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this change, but to no avail. M Oh no! :-( M After years of using the Space bar (on the Message List) instead of M Ctrl+M to mark a message as read and properly triggering Read filters I M now have to change my whole set up. I don't like this because, among M other things, many times the messages I am reading are short enough so M that, to read them, I don't even have to change focus to the message M pane and use the smart Space bar to scroll them. Just read them and, M when done, hit Space to mark it as read. Why they made the change I don't know, I suspect it may just have been an accidental oversight which they cannot be bothered to now fix up! M Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the M 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart M Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message I'm M reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't move to M any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this case? The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the M 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart M Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message I'm M reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't move to M any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this case? The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! Thanks for the info. As I say, I'll have to do some more testing -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! It seems to be dependant on the folder View Mode. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Miguel, Monday, April 16, 2012, 9:35:25 AM, among other things, you wrote: M Hello Roger, M The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! M It seems to be dependant on the folder View Mode. In what way? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker no longer available
SB What happened to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ ? Is there a new URL SB where I can report and view the status of the issues I've reported SB previusly? Ritlabs switched to a new host and there appear to be some problems with getting bugtraq online. RIT, any news when it will be back up? This Beta forum will become just hot air if you don't monitor it nor accept bug reports. I have a show stopper (for me) to report that is preventing me moving (and paying for) 5.1. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Replied filters trigger too early
Hello MAU, I don't know if what I have called 'Replied filters triggering too early' is a bug or if it is WAD in v5. After some more testing I have verified that too early means 'the first time the reply I'm writing is Auto-saved'. This certainly didn't happen with v4.2.44.2 that I was using till I upgraded to 5.1 yesterday. There are actually two sides to this issue: 1.- The message I'm replying to is marked as replied (envelope with green corner icon) as soon as the reply is Auto-saved the first time. This may bot be new to v5.1, I think I've seen it happen with v4 also. 2.- Replied filters are triggered, and action taken if conditions are met, as soon as the reply is Auto-saved the first time. This I can assure didn't happen in v4. I don't know if it is new to v5.1 or if it was introduced in any of the previous v5 betas. As with Read filters, I will open a BT report as soon as BT is up and running again. These two issues with Read and Replied filters are quite an inconvenience for me, to the point that I may decide to revert to version v4.2.44.2. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! M It seems to be dependant on the folder View Mode. In what way? Well, at first sight it seemed that it would not work if the view mode was Generic or any other unthreaded view mode, and it would work if the view was threaded by reference. But after changing view mode a number of times to confirm this, I have seen Smart space failing on the last message using a threaded view mode. However, I have yyet to see it work with Generic or any unthreaded view mode. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello MAU, When I mark a message as read, ii is marked as read but not moved to any folder. However, doing a manual re-filter does move the messages fine. After trying different ways and shorcuts to mark a message as read, I can confirm that, at least here, Read filters are never triggered. They only work with a manual re-filter. I will open a BT report as soon as BT is up and running again. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Replied filters trigger too early
Hello MAU, These two issues with Read and Replied filters are quite an inconvenience for me, to the point that I may decide to revert to version v4.2.44.2. Decided and done, see my signature. Now Read filters are triggered when I mark a message as read, as it should be. Now Replied filters are NOT triggered and the message I'm replying to is NOT marked as replied when the reply is Auto-saved . These two things happen ONLY when I 'Send the message' or 'Put message in the Outbox', as it should be. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Analyze feature
Hallo Ethan, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 12:20:44 PM, you wrote: What's new in 5.1.0.1 since 5.0.36.5: [+] MultiSMTP [+] Folder|Inbox Analyzer [+] Message|Tags etc... New Feature: Inbox Analyzer When testing this feature, the mail is analyzed. However, it will not execute given it reports, Folder not found. Can anyone else confirm? It started analyzing just yet when I fired up TheBat! all by itself so I was kinda confused. It created an 'analyzed-folder' in which it put crap I didn't want, read: junk so far so good. But how do I deal with this analyze thing? Right now I'm kinda confused. ;) -- met vriendelijke groet, Cees Schouten __ TheBat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) Professional Edition Registered to Cees Schouten S/N 3F8062AA Single-computer licence on Windows 7 Ultimate X64 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.1.0.2
The Bat! 5.1.0.2 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5102.rar What's new in 5.1.0.2 since 5.1.0.1: [-] Minor fixes Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.2
Hallo Maxim, Monday, April 16, 2012, 8:53:32 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 5.1.0.2 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5102.rar What's new in 5.1.0.2 since 5.1.0.1: [-] Minor fixes Up and running What minor fixes? -- met vriendelijke groet, Cees Schouten __ TheBat! v5.1.0.2 (BETA) Professional Edition Registered to Cees Schouten S/N 3F8062AA Single-computer licence on Windows 7 Ultimate X64 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.2 - still has the timezoe offset problem.
Hello Cees, What minor fixes? Unfortunately, not the timezone offset problem. :-( -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Current beta is 5.1.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.2
Hello Maxim, Monday, April 16, 2012, 2:53:32 PM, you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5102.rar UR MM [-] Minor fixes So why bother? :)) -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v5.1.0.2 (BETA) on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1
In all fairness, there are still quite a few outstanding bugs. We beta testers would have hoped to get a nearly bug free program for all our efforts Nooo this is a beta test list and by DEFINITION the prog will be buggy. That is the cost of having the latest and greatest :) However if they ever do release the perfect version, I want one :)) -- Rick The art of being wise is knowing what to overlook. - William James v5.1.0.2 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
