Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello Rick, Add recent: (note the full colon) to the beginning of you SMTP login - you will get messages back. Just note it does not work in mail sent to some YAHOO groups. Thanks. I'm trying your suggestion with this reply. Let's see what happens. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello Rick, Add recent: (note the full colon) to the beginning of you SMTP login - you will get messages back. Just note it does not work in mail sent to some YAHOO groups. Thanks. I'm trying your suggestion with this reply. Let's see what happens. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html . Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello Rick, Add recent: (note the full colon) to the beginning of you SMTP login - you will get messages back. Just note it does not work in mail sent to some YAHOO groups. Thanks. I'm trying your suggestion with this reply. Let's see what happens. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html . Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello Rick, Add recent: (note the full colon) to the beginning of you SMTP login - you will get messages back. Just note it does not work in mail sent to some YAHOO groups. Thanks. I'm trying your suggestion with this reply. Let's see what happens. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html .. Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html . Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local
Dear all, I have successfully uploaded over 3 GB of eMails to an IMAP account on gMail including all folders as it should be. I used Aid4mails. Now I need also to have all those eMails including folders permanently stored on the local HD in order to have it used under a POP account. Are there any suggestions how to do this? -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.0.36.5 (BETA) Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local
Dear All, --- Eddie / Friday Fri 20. Apr 2012, 12:04 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local I have successfully uploaded over 3 GB of eMails to an IMAP account on gMail including all folders as it should be. I used Aid4mails. Now I need also to have all those eMails including folders permanently stored on the local HD in order to have it used under a POP account. Are there any suggestions how to do this? Forgot: of course all included attachments should be stored also locally. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.0.36.5 (BETA) Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello Rick, Add recent: (note the full colon) to the beginning of you SMTP login - you will get messages back. Just note it does not work in mail sent to some YAHOO groups. OK, I did as you suggested and it kinda worked. I did get my own reply from the list... three times!! But there are some 'peculiarities' about these 3 copies I got: 1.- In 2 of them the text lines were double spaced and in the other triple spaced. ?? 2.- None of them threaded properly, because the In-Reply-To: and References: headers had been stripped off. ?? 3.- The Message-ID: was changed from 1007994837.20120420100...@gmail.com to 20120420040659.ga18...@spamcheetah.savitardevices.com for the first one and different MID, but also '@SpamCheetah.savitardevices.com', for the other two. I wonder what's going on here. I looked at the TBUDL archives and found one solution that may work: sending mail via my ISP's smtp server and not the gmail's one. This is what I am doing right now with this reply. Let's see if it works now. Sorry to bother the list with this OT crap. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello MAU, I looked at the TBUDL archives and found one solution that may work: sending mail via my ISP's smtp server and not the gmail's one. This is what I am doing right now with this reply. Let's see if it works now. It certainly does work. I did get my own message from the list and with all proper headers. I can now delete my Outgoing filters for this and other lists. Again, sorry to have bothered you all with this issue. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] Question for Gmail users
Hello Richard, M About a couple of months ago I changed my subscription to this list from M my previous email address m...@rancho-k.com to my current one in Gmail. I did the same and I remember I did have to do something to make it work right. But I don't remember what that was. But if you check this group's archive . . . it should be there. I did search the archives and found a solution that works, using my ISO's smtp server. I don't know if that is what you did, but it certainly work. Thanks anyway. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] Question for Gmail users
Hello MAU, ISO's smtp server. Ooops! ISP's, not ISO's (Darn arthritic fingers!!) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create new Message drop-list empty AGAIN!
Hello Steven, However, the drop-list shows only Quick templates instead of the groups/users it should be showing. I'd really, REALLY, *REALLY* like to get this back. I probably used that feature more than any other. I don't use favourites addresses from the drop-down list but from the context menu when right clicking on the To: or CC: field of the editor. Anyway, I was curious about your problem and was playing with the settings in the AB Groups properties, although not exhaustively. These are my findings: - There certainly seems to be an issue when using/selecting different settings in AB Groups properties. - In some cases I got what you report, drop-down list showing only Quick templates. I all or most cases, re-starting TB made the favourites appear in the list. I assume you have re-started TB many times. - If I select the option 'Add items to Instant Address Pop-Up' I do get the groups and favourites (maybe after re-starting), but then the right-click context menu in Editor does NOT show any group or favourites. I normally don't have this option selected and I only get the favourites without the groups, but they also appear in editor's context menu. - I have been playing with both v4.2.44.2 and v5.1.0.4 and they both seem to behave the same. So, whatever the issue/problem is, I don't think it is something new to v5. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CNET Update on the Software
Friday, April 20, 2012 Here is the listing The Bat on CNET. Take a look at the comments. Some good clues for further improvement steps. http://download.cnet.com/The-Bat-Professional-Edition/3000-2367_4-10010888.html?tag=main;new Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:15:14 +0300, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please test the The Bat! 5.1 MSI files and let us know if whey install well. Whey installed well but still have the HELP file of version 3 (2005). Arjan -- I am here to lose control Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create new Message drop-list empty AGAIN!
MAU, Friday, April 20, 2012, 6:20:28 AM, you wrote: M I don't use favourites addresses from the drop-down list but from the M context menu when right clicking on the To: or CC: field of the editor. I'd love to use a feature like that! When I right-click in To: CC: or BCC: I get a context menu containing only these items: copy, cut, paste, undo and select all. M Anyway, I was curious about your problem Thanks for your interest and research, it is appreciated. M I assume you have re-started TB many times. At least a few dozen. M - If I select the option 'Add items to Instant Address Pop-Up' I do get M the groups and favourites (maybe after re-starting), but then the M right-click context menu in Editor does NOT show any group or M favourites. I normally don't have this option selected and I only get M the favourites without the groups, but they also appear in editor's M context menu. I guess I'll try *NOT* selecting anything for inclusion in the pop-up menu and maybe they will magically appear in the address field context menu instead. I've not been able to get an address list pop-up in the address fields since somewhere in v2 or v3 (though I do get a list of things that kind of match what I've started to type, but that doesn't always help if I do not remember the name I'm looking for!) I'm sure there's a setting to control which of the context menus is displayed, but actually /finding/ a specific new setting in TB is far too much like finding a four-leaf clover in a very large clover field! (At least, that's the way it feels to me!) M - I have been playing with both v4.2.44.2 and v5.1.0.4 and they both M seem to behave the same. So, whatever the issue/problem is, I don't M think it is something new to v5. The last time this happened was when I went from 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8 in April 2011 and reverting to 4.x fixed the problem. FWIW, I've had this list go empty several times when trying new betas over the years, but they happen so far apart that I forget how to fix them! It is starting to look like I'll be going back to 4.2.44.2 again. It isn't that I need (or use) any of the new things added to the 5.x line, I was just trying to stay current on a product I find worthy of supporting. But it keeps breaking the one age-old feature that I *DO* use often. Sigh. -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.0.3 (BETA) | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question for Gmail users
Hello Rick, Add recent: (note the full colon) to the beginning of you SMTP login - you will get messages back. Just note it does not work in mail sent to some YAHOO groups. OK, I did as you suggested and it kinda worked. I did get my own reply from the list... three times!! But there are some 'peculiarities' about these 3 copies I got: 1.- In 2 of them the text lines were double spaced and in the other triple spaced. ?? 2.- None of them threaded properly, because the In-Reply-To: and References: headers had been stripped off. ?? 3.- The Message-ID: was changed from Sorry to bother the list with this OT crap. I saw all the copies come in :)) I think that was a one time thing - it should work from now on -- Rick You're only young once; you can be immature forever v5.1.0.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.3
Hello Jernej, Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:58:52 PM, among other things, you wrote: JS On Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 16:11:45, Maxim Masiutin wrote: [-] System HTML viewer was disabled in previous beta (BETA issue) JS When System HTML Viewer is enabled, spacebar always moves to the next JS message, and doesn't page through the current message if it's longer JS than the viewing area. I confirmed this in an earlier reply to you but have since discovered that this problem only exists with HTML messages. Plain text messages still work as in earlier versions, that is the space bar pages down a long message and then moves to a new message. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.0.4 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create new Message drop-list empty AGAIN!
MAU, Friday, April 20, 2012, 6:20:28 AM, you wrote: M - If I select the option 'Add items to Instant Address Pop-Up' I do get M the groups and favourites (maybe after re-starting), but then the M right-click context menu in Editor does NOT show any group or M favourites. I normally don't have this option selected and I only get M the favourites without the groups, but they also appear in editor's M context menu. 1: I went through ALL of the groups in my address book and *UNCHECKED* the Add items to the Instant Address Pop-Up and Hide items if not explicitly selected items for everything. 2: I restarted TheBat! 3: *ALL* of my addresses checked as Favourite now appear on the Create a new Message drop list *AND* when I RMB in an address field! 4: I went through my address book again and RECHECKED the Add items to the Instant Address Pop-Up and Hide items if not explicitly selected items for all of the groups that still have addresses marked as Favourite (I now have a few that have none.) 5: I restarted TheBat! 6: The Create a new Message drop-list is back to what I'm familiar with and the RMB context menu in the address fields is back to cut, copy, paste, undo and select all with no addresses (or groups) listed. It is too bad that the RMB context menu in the address fields cannot be like the Create a new Message drop- list. Having a complete list of ALL of my favourite addresses is too large to be usable. The hierarchical list that Create a new Message offers is MUCH BETTER. I'm guessing that the Create a new Message list went empty because the first group I had checked no longer contained any favourite addresses and it got confused and gave up. At least it is working as it was, if not really correctly (at least, not as I understand correctly to mean.) Thanks MAU for your suggestions! -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.0.3 (BETA) | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT on Beta List
Hello MAU, Good to see you back on the list. I always enjoy your thorough research and excellent explanations. Now if I can only convince you to start testing IMAP. (hint, hint) :) -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.1.0.4 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Maxim, FWIW, both this MSI and the previous one triggered a message box that looked something like this: +--[ The Bat! Professional v5.1.0 ]+ | | | The feature you are trying to use is on a | | network resource that is unavailable. | | | |Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a| |folder containing the installation package| |'thebat_pro_4-0-16-2.msi' in the box below. | +--+ (I didn't show the buttons or the image icon ) What I find interesting is that the last several MSI files I used were: 4.2.42 4.2.44 5.0.8 (uninstall 5.0.8) 4.2.44 5.0.36 5.1.0 (this one) So it seems rather odd that it is complaining about the 4.0.16.2 MSI. Also, it is complaining about it being missing from a NETWORK RESOURCE, but I have always downloaded and installed from my boot drive, which is definitely NOT a network drive. -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.0.4 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Steven, Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:12:02 AM, you wrote: SPV Maxim, SPV FWIW, both this MSI and the previous one triggered a SPV message box that looked something like this: I forgot to mention that pressing the CANCEL button allowed the install to continue and complete without further incident. -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.0.4 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: space shuttle Discovery's final flight
Bob, Wednesday, April 18, 2012, 4:39:00 PM, you wrote: BR I watched these videos in tears, which some of you will understand. I felt much the same when I visited her in the VAB about a week before she left... http://www.svalli.com/files/Discovery120406.jpg -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.0.4 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug tracker is up, but I can't log in
Bug tracker is up, but I can't log in Things are moving in the right direction! :)) -- Rick Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too! v5.1.0.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
On Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:12:02 AM, Steven P Vallière wrote: FWIW, both this MSI and the previous one triggered a message box that looked something like this: +--[ The Bat! Professional v5.1.0 ]+ | | | The feature you are trying to use is on a | | network resource that is unavailable. | | | |Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a| |folder containing the installation package| |'thebat_pro_4-0-16-2.msi' in the box below. | I fired up my XP machine and ran the MSI, and got this same result. I have seen it on that box with TB! msi's for a long time. I always assumed it was because of something I had done some time, and gave it no mind. Just hit cancel, and it went away. Installs without further problems. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.0.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker is up, but I can't log in
Rick wrote: Bug tracker is up, but I can't log in Things are moving in the right direction! :)) Confirmed. Is this a real and serious installation? E.g. the logo is missing and some other parts of a normal a Mantis Bugtracker installation. To me it seems more like a placebo. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Dwight, Friday, April 20, 2012, 2:05:49 PM, you wrote: DC I fired up my XP machine and ran the MSI, and got this same result. I DC have seen it on that box with TB! msi's for a long time. I always DC assumed it was because of something I had done some time, and gave it DC no mind. Just hit cancel, and it went away. Installs without further DC problems. If it had only happened once I would have ignored it, but since I got the same message from the two most recent MSI installs of 5.x, I thought it was worth mentioning. -- Steven Vallière | tb 5.1.0.4 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mantis database
Hello Tbbeta, We have lost the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that and would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please visit the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you. Please do not submit any bugs yet, we have to create categories. If you have suggestions on the full list of categories, please let us know. -- Best regards, Maxim mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mantis database
Hello Tbbeta, We have lost the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that and would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please visit the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you. Please do not submit any bugs yet, we have to create categories. If you have suggestions on the full list of categories, please let us know. OUCH - Been there and done that. I am sure we all feel bad for you and will CHEERFULLY help rebuild it -- Rick I will always be on the side of those who have nothing and who are not even allowed to enjoy the nothing they have in peace. Frederico Garcia v5.1.0.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mantis database
Maxim Masiutin wrote: We have lost the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that and would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please visit the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you. Okay, so please update also to the latest version of Mantis 1.2.10 from April 1st, 2012. Version 1.2.8 has some serious security issues. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mantis database
Hello Maxim, We have lost the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that and would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please visit the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you. OMG!! Shit happens, doesn't it? Real sorry about that. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mantis database
Maxim, On 21-04-2012 00:56, you wrote in mid:972238464.20120421015...@ritlabs.com: We have lost the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that and would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please visit the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you. An easy way to make TB bug free ;-) Sorry to hear this. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 5.0.30 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras env. 4 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env. os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
