Re: TB! betas won't stick
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 4:01 pm, P.Johnson wrote: Thanks, Tony, I see where I was replacing the file incorrectly. With luck this will solve the hang problem too. And if all else fails, I have my nice neat CD copy of a working version to revert to, thanks to you. :-) you can have a FINAL version installed, and install a beta in a different folder, if you want to make sure you can run a good copy.. check the archives, this was discussed a while back, something about starting the bat from a shortcut with /REG=beta or something like that.. that way, if the beta doesn't work right, you can always revert to your known good copy ;) -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user#367800 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
On Thursday 14 October 2004 07:25 am, Dierk Haasis wrote: well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . Unfortunately I have to confirm, although I find it more annoying than stopping (me from using TB). As long as it is only a handful of us experiencing this bug RL will have a hard time getting to it. obviously it isn't a priority :) BTW, once in between (during the MSI testing over the last few days) one version lost my MT setting for which messages should be shown. I did have Normal, Low and High Priority set to show, had to re-enable High and Low one or two weeks back (the infamous lost messages non-bug) and lost the setting again. I didn't do any MSI installs until the latest release, 3.01.33 I don' remember which two versions exactly lost those but we should have an eye on that setting in the future - there seems to be an intermittent bug. I'm not sure I had those set, I'll check, next time I run it. -- Paul Cartwright registered Linux user # 367800 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
On Thursday 14 October 2004 01:53 pm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much I PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain. PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on deliberately, but it is still checked. I have quite a few filters with autocreate turned on, why??? -- Paul Cartwright registered Linux user # 367800 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 12:39 PM, you wrote: necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on deliberately, but it is still checked. PC I have quite a few filters with autocreate turned on, why??? SC See the following bug report: SC https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3924 SC This appears to be causing some odd jumping, admittedly not in Mail SC Ticker, but it may be related. well, I went through EACH AND EVERY FILTER on ALL my accounts, and unchecked that autocreate box. and... it still jumps. - -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0442-2 (14.10.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: pgp 8.1 Win XP SP2 iQA/AwUBQW7IsdBl8DJXSdrxEQIj6wCgsuPASZxNVCLvcln2vjRvA5Ln9jAAnj/X 96xBL3kmz8cMuITjEAii3A5f =KttP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 2:53 PM, you wrote PC well, I went through EACH AND EVERY FILTER on ALL my accounts, and PC unchecked that autocreate box. PC and... it still jumps. SC Bummer. I guess that isn't it. :( SC Did your problem start with the NFS. I wonder if it still isn't SC related somehow. no, it was way before NFS.. - -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0442-2 (14.10.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: pgp 8.1 Win XP SP2 iQA/AwUBQW7NuNBl8DJXSdrxEQJfRgCcDp9Mk77xSQRlDyqgHt3KaXwBVKQAn0lX J1ACdDA99Zg63cKILnrQ5+Qd =bF0s -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 3:18 PM, you wrote: MO Although some list members obviously does not think it is appropriate, MO I would like to take this opportunity to thank the programmers at MO Ritlabs for a good, productive bug-squashing beta cycle. well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much I can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain. yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . - -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0442-1 (12.10.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: pgp 8.1 Win XP SP2 iQA/AwUBQW2T39Bl8DJXSdrxEQJQkgCgqNOu9U5rHd7LGSSj7bhvvBjB63cAoMuo +4I8Qyq9X+iFjzqVZRn6Wm6v =xbjV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.1.33 RC/10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Post your show stoppers here
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Only the folders with high numbers of messages. Under 1,000 opens pretty quickly, and over 10,000 is so slow that I have recreated my folder tree so that no folder has more than 10,000 messages. DA I can't confirm this. I've got a folder here with 13513 messages (at DA the moment :), and it opens almost instantly. In any case, about as DA fast as any other folder... I just stopped and restarted TB. It took 32 seconds from the time I saw the splash screen, until all my folders were populated with numbers. This was only 4 new messages, and the only large account I have has 9,000 messages, about 12,000 total. No bayesit plugin. - -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0441-2 (08.10.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: pgp 8.1 Win XP SP2 iQA/AwUBQWbT3dBl8DJXSdrxEQJqGQCeK18lAe0eiv47QGNjQE7QIkqjAdgAniZZ kpmD2H+8ktM1Ma8Rhr33Eb3O =VxQZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.01 RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.15 Post Release is now available
On Saturday, September 18, 2004, 4:08 AM, you wrote: this is a beta, and the NFS filters are definitely suspect. They should NOT have been put out in a release version yet. i've had problems with me addressbook filters not working any more, I don't understand why. MO You know address book filtering broke in 3.0.0.7 but was fixed again MO in 3.0.0.8? (see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3552) MO I see you are using 3.0.0.15, are your filters still broken in that MO version? still broken. I also noticed when I just tried to create a filter, it wanted to put the folder in the account that had focus in the main TB window, even though I was using the Mail ticker to read mail, and the message was in a different account. -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0.15 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0438-3 (17.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.15 Post Release is now available
On Friday, September 17, 2004, 7:25 PM, you wrote: MC I did likewise, and for the most part it has worked. BUT, several times I have MC had to delete the newly built filters, and rebuild them - exactly as they were MC initially - to get them to work. this is a beta, and the NFS filters are definitely suspect. They should NOT have been put out in a release version yet. i've had problems with me addressbook filters not working any more, I don't understand why. -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0.15 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0438-3 (17.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SPAM filter not working
On Monday, September 13, 2004, 5:32 PM, you wrote: M No. What you can do even better is to include X-Text-Classification: M as a new header in Options/Preferences/Message Headers and then it will M be available to use it in your filter this way: so now I don't have kludges to deal with, and I can make it a message field, nice! M Message field - X-Text-Classification - contains - spam I'll set it up! M When you add the new header in Preferences, enter it with the colon (:) M in display as... and _without_ the colon in RFC name. I have some that have colons in BOTH, should I change them all what is the significance with/without?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0437-1 (09.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: losing messages FOR SURE
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, 8:28 AM, you wrote: D A couple days ago I mentioned this problem, the thread is buried down D there somewhere;) probably deleted it, I don't read ALL the threads :) D We discovered the main problem was in the filtering. What didn't get D filtered properly ended up in the Windows main temp folder. I had D over 3000 batXXX.tmp files. After going through and making sure the D filters tested out correctly the case of disappearing post went away D as did the problem of massive batxxx.tmp files. I look at those temp folders every now and then, I had 225 bat TMP files today, not alot, and they were from 9/7.. D I don't know if that is what is causing your problem, but if you check D your Temp folder and see a large number of Bat.tmp files the filters D might be a good place to start in fixing the problem. At least that is D what worked on this machine. Hope that helped and I had already deleted ALL my old filters, I'm starting over, as new messages come in, I am created new filters. I had the same filters in multiple accounts, it was getting messy:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0437-1 (09.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.3 (Open Source)
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, 4:53 PM, you wrote: DH Just when I sent out my last message, Achim's site got updated; you DH now get 1.5.3. thanks, got it! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0437-1 (09.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Strange bug at startup
On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 3:12 PM, you wrote: P Today I wanted to start TB! 3.0.0.7 and there was no possibility: P look at attachement. I tested many times. To fix this I must P downgrade to 3.0.0.6, run it one time and then upgrade to 3.0.0.7. P Very strange... I had a problem like that, all I had to do was to start my BETA version with the /REG:Beta , then start TB the regular way, and it worked. I'm not sure if my error messages were the same, but I tried a number of times, and TB refused to start. now, to get 3.0.0.8 ! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0437-0 (07.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: creating filters in mail ticker doesn't work right
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, 4:25 AM, you wrote: 9 Hello Paul, PC I just blew away all my old filters and started fresh. I did that to PC get RID of LOTS of old filters in the wrong accounts. PC What I just found out was that when I read mail using the MT ( mail PC ticker), and use the Specials-create filter menu, it creates the PC filters in the wrong accounts. I thought I had noticed this behavior PC before, but could never get a handle on it. That's why I have so many PC filters in so many accounts that do nothing! 9 Should be fixed in latest version it is not. I just tested it after downloading installing 3.0.0.6 I had focus on account FA, and created a new filter from YOUR email. It ended up created the filter in account FA, not the account I am subscribed to TBBETA with. -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-4 (03.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
creating filters in mail ticker doesn't work right
I just blew away all my old filters and started fresh. I did that to get RID of LOTS of old filters in the wrong accounts. What I just found out was that when I read mail using the MT ( mail ticker), and use the Specials-create filter menu, it creates the filters in the wrong accounts. I thought I had noticed this behavior before, but could never get a handle on it. That's why I have so many filters in so many accounts that do nothing! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-4 (03.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0 Wierdness
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 9:24 PM, you wrote: SG FWIW, In addtion to Avast! and XP as specified in my sig, I'm using K9 SG 1.29 for SPAM checking, and I have only Avast!'s Plugin Virus Checker SG enabled, not the Mail Service. thanks for the update, I'm using K9 1.27, time to upgrade! see SIG for AVAST ( macro ) info ! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-3 (02.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 3:50 PM, you wrote: P you can put a smiley on that, but I'm gritting my teeth :) P I'll just go eat come chocolate and calm down :) A You can eat chocolate through gritted teeth...??? ;-O I can UNclench my teeth to open my mouth to insert chocolate:) and I did just that after dinner tonight!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-3 (02.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
bayesit 3.0 install
I just noticed that my preferences-anti-spam was the bayesit plug-in by Achim Winkler, v1.3 . I also noticed that the info on 3.0 shows a new default bayesit plug-in. So I deleted the plug-in I had, and went to my C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt\ and selected the tbp plugin and now I have a V06.0 version of BayesIt installed. -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-2 (01.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Request for feature on 3.0
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 1:06 PM, you wrote: speaking of requests, have you noticed the mail ticker DEL jump ??? I have :( -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-2 (01.09.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fixed 3.0
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 7:20 PM, you wrote: what is ATM??? M At The Moment :) and now I forget the question! ah well, I thought it had to do with truetypes, or icons.. not to worry:) but how DO I get the glyphs to work!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-0 (31.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fixed 3.0
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 7:26 PM, you wrote: I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat! (Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack. TM not confirmed. Which System? MWoT XP Professional SP2... the International Pack uninstalled fine by itself MWoT as did The Bat! entry (from a previous MSI I guess). I then ran the MWoT repair option on the new MSI. must be, no international pack shows here, and my last TB MSI install was a LONG time ago! -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-0 (31.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fixed 3.0
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 7:34 PM, you wrote: M The tabs were introduce in 3.0 beta/1 but I guess they have removed M them. ah, I might not have checked preferences, that beta wasn't out long enough :) M And nice I can use my beloved glyph.bmp I renamed the glyph.bmp to something else, and now the original glyphs are whole, complete, work just fine. Why did the ones I had installed only show as half icons?? and why do yours work?? M I don't know. Mine didn't work either on beta/1 but they do now. I se M you use XP and I use Win2000. Could that be the difference? maybe I should put back the glyphs.bmp now that I have the final version installed.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0436-0 (31.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 4:28 PM, you wrote: MP If anything this should be version 2.2, not a leap towards MP 3.0. I feel taken advantage of having to pay for bugs to be fixed in MP 2.x that still haven't been fixed just for the NFS and a new and buggy MP GUI. Registered 2.x users should not have to pay to upgrade, IMHO. actually, according to the web site: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Upcoming release version: 2.13 Lucky Latest test build: 2.13 Lucky Beta/6 I guess it wasn't lucky :) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0435-2 (28.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Jumpy message list
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 4:38 PM, you wrote: I am reading a thread from oldes to newest, delete the currently read message and , whoomps, I land in the middle of another thread with a very different topic. N Do you have checked the New thread sorting option in the setup N columns of the folder ? it happens to me when I use the Browse Ticker Messages, doesn't matter if I sort them by age, time, or folder. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0434-1 (17.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/6 is now available
KT EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module KT 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 0495C000 KT I had this in beta/5 despite writing that it was gone -- I was wrong, it KT was only a short time when I didn't get an error msg. I got this error a few times , but I haven't seen it SO FAR in beta 6.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0434-0 (16.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Jumpy message list
On Thursday, August 12, 2004, 2:15 PM, you wrote: SC Is there a pattern, as in does it jump to a message that is next in SC line by created time regardless of thread, instead of moving to the SC next message in the thread by created time? mine jumps to a different account sometimes, hard to tell about a pattern, since new mail comes in every time. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0433-2 (10.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Error Still in Place - SUGGESTION: don't roll back! It defeats the purpose of betatesting!
On Monday, August 9, 2004, 4:55 PM, you wrote: M That is precisely why I made 9Val add the /REG: option to the program. M Just set up a separate directory for TB! Beta, and run it as M thebat.exe /reg:beta. how ??? I usually just drop in the .EXE file in the existing folders, how do you install it when it is already installed. I used to have a separate login ( XP ) to work with the beta, but that got old.. now I just don't tell my wife I am using a beta:) M It will create and begin using its own M registry branch, separately from your normal TB usage. This way you M can have a stable (okay, semi-stable) TB! for your everyday usage, and M a (buggy to hell and back) beta for testing purposes. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0433-0 (09.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sent messages residing in Outbox - still
On Friday, August 6, 2004, 12:02 PM, you wrote: I can confirm this. After deleting the mentioned OUTBOX files, a couple of messages made it through and then they began to stick again. DH I was just told privately that the vital part in the advice Paul did DH forget to mention: Uncheck the Debug New Filter System. D'uh. I didn't think that was part of the stuck mail problem, I thought they were separate issues, and even WITH that unchecked, I also reverted back to mail sticking in the outbox. we need another beta FAST! DH Not feasible if we want to beta-test it, is it? so, go back to beta 1 ?? nah!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0432-2 (04.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/3 is out!
On Friday, August 6, 2004, 2:13 PM, you wrote: I didn't think that was part of the stuck mail problem DH AIUI, it was. DH But beta 3 is out and the bug is fixed. Seems there are some problems DH with sending mail to the list by 9Val. I think I can show and tell. oh, go ahead then and tell us! and the link is http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0432-2 (04.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More filter woes
On Thursday, August 5, 2004, 2:13 PM, you wrote: RS I've also noticed, and I think this was brought up before by someone RS else, that when a message is sent the message is stuck in the RS outbox even though the message is sent, so this is strange behavior. Mary B told me to go to the account\outbox folder and delete the .tbb and .tbi files, close TB and restart it. that worked for me. it will rebuild those files ;) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0432-2 (04.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filer on headers or what?
On Wednesday, August 4, 2004, 4:25 AM, you wrote: FG Once you have started TB!, then the filters have separate lives. They FG are not copied over again unless you delete the .SRB files. Hence you FG can have radically different filter sets for beta testing and switch FG back to your real ones just by unchecking the box in account FG properties wow, just like shortcut keys, too many places to configure them:) FG I hope this helps yup, sure does, thanks! I went from beta 1 with 200+ emails new, downloaded 7 installed beta 2 and only had 70 emails new. Is that scary ? all of my duplicate entries for filters and inbox disappeared. yehaa -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0432-2 (04.08.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:30 PM, you wrote: MDP Allie must have gone to the website and downloaded the latest zips, MDP unpacked them into the TB folder then pressed C-A-S-T. You don't say MDP that you did that. You should also delete the old PDSF2.msl file in MDP case it is confusing the issue. MDP FWIW, I also see you very clearly. and you are back to your old picture? or is it just that I am finally catching up to reality :) and yes, I now see my image:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0429-0 (12.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 4:50 PM, you wrote: P This does not address the issue of is the photo of the correct person. P I would take this as a given unless there is evidence otherwise P (personal knowledge, etc.) GS And what next a PGP (or GnuPG) signed picture with a signed key? well, actually, a PGP signed pictuer still wouldn't mean anything other than to verify the SENDER, not the picture. we would need Batcon to verify photos with people:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 6:16 PM, you wrote: PC we would need Batcon to verify photos with people:) AW They certainly do a great job but what has batcon to do with verifying AW photos? oh whoops, I meant our bat-CON get-to-gether :) where we actually SEE the people that are supposed to belong to the photos.. there really is a batcon.org, wow!! neat! my wife works for www.gwf.org :) you can see her under staff:) http://www.gwf.org/staff.htm AW ,- [ www.batcon.org ] AW | We are committed to: -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: commas in templates
On Saturday, July 10, 2004, 4:03 PM, you wrote: PC did you figure out why my AB templates were adding commas??? PC all I did was add the clearsign lines to a template, and it messed up my PC X-rogue header. This same info in a QT works fine.. 9 Not yet. Just returned home, had a supper and am preparing for battles 9 :) looks like I got it to work using SETHEADER and the clearsigning lines. here is my template NOW, that works: : sig line goes here -- %FromFName %COOKIE=c:\tmp\software\tb\winamp.txt %Account=tbot %SETHEADER(X-Rogue,:Paul_Cartwright:)%- %CLEARSIGN %SIGNCOMPLETE %NORCPTCONFIRM %NOUSESMIME %NOUSEPGPMIME -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About auto download rogues/smileys
On Friday, July 9, 2004, 3:57 PM, you wrote: LG About the time this TB beta becomes official, so will Roguemoticons LG and PCWSmileys. At that point I will be making all my code available LG under the GPL for anyone to use to set up their own smiley server. a smiley server, wow!! must be Linux, windows servers don't smile :gdr: -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
header images
Leif, I have a question about the header images. Now that I get all the rogue photos there, how do you make them BIGGER?? as in, I can't double-click it, right-click it.. if I want to view it larger, how is that done? there was a really nice one of a guy on a motorcycle, but I couldn't even tell you what kind of bike it was !! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-0 (07.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: header images
On Thursday, July 8, 2004, 5:10 PM, you wrote: LG You'll see it in Beta 8 when you right click the header pane and LG choose Fit Header to Image in the Sender Photo dropdown. ooh THAT beta 8 I'm ready ! can I alpha test the beta?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-0 (07.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: header images
On Thursday, July 8, 2004, 5:12 PM, you wrote: PC I have a question about the header images. Now that I get all the rogue PC photos there, how do you make them BIGGER?? as in, I can't double-click PC it, right-click it.. if I want to view it larger, how is that done? PC there was a really nice one of a guy on a motorcycle, but I couldn't PC even tell you what kind of bike it was !! 9 there are some ways - 1. Enable more header fields to show thanks, that's a good one!! I was finally able to enlarge it a bit with the Created field. Not all the fields work ( like CC, BCC..) If they don't have entries.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-0 (07.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
NON-ticker messages jumping
hello, well, to add insult to injury, now I created a virtual folder, for unread messages, because I could not deal with the ticker jumping all over the place. It was doing it again today, so I switched to my unread VF to read. well, IT DID IT THERE TOO. I was going down the list, and WHAM, it dropped a page below where I was reading. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-2 (04.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Roguemoticons
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 8:49 AM, you wrote: TF Mica is not in my AB and his pic displays in the header. Andreasrum is TF in my AB and his pic displays in the header as well. PC this is not possible. TF It is. I can send you a sreenshot, but I guess you believe me. well, in this case I DO :) I guess I missed that thread or info on the header and rogue smilies. I've been a little heavy on the DELETE key this weekend.. PC He HAS to be in your AB somewhere for his picture PC to show in the headers TF He isn't... but I'm not going to send you my AB for verification! :-Þ good, I have enough addresses that I don't know who they are, already!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-1 (02.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Roguemoticons
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:28 AM, you wrote: TF This may be the reason. I used to put all definitions in the before I TF downloaded the beta. Going to edit right away.. oh, I forgot about the new beta being able to use separate files for smilies!! so, you take the rogues OUT of the pdsf.msl file for them to show up in the headers IF you have that line in the rogues.msl file, type = rogue is that it??? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-2 (04.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Roguemoticons
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:21 AM, you wrote: RB Hi Thomas, RB It has something to do with rogues.msl and pdsf2.msl! 9Val told RB me, because I didn't like two times pictures in a message, that I RB can write * Tupe = rogues in rogues.msl before all smileys and RB then I have all pictures in the header. But this only worked for me, RB when I deleted pdsf2.msl. In this case I however didn't any more the RB flags which many have above. If you update the rogues.zip you have RB always again pdsf2.msl! ok, I'm not exactly sure now, where do you put this line: Type = rogues before every entry in rogue.msl ? before the smiley= I'm lost! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-2 (04.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Roguemoticons
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:34 AM, you wrote: PC ok, I'm not exactly sure now, where do you put this line: PC Type = rogues PC before every entry in rogue.msl ? PC before the smiley= TF No, only once, before the first line starting with smiley= I did that, and there you are in the headers!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-2 (04.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: mercy on the smiley noise
On Sunday, June 27, 2004, 8:58 PM, you wrote: RA Ok, I'll just see, if it was fixed, when christmas äh, beta 2 comes. GS Well actually they are up to beta 4. :-) wait, I'm on the beta list, I don't remember anyone saying anything past beta 1! how did I miss that ?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0426-1 (25.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: WISH: filter on AddressBook entry
On Friday, June 25, 2004, 10:43 PM, you wrote: JA In the address picker, right click on a contact who has more than one JA address. One of the options is Add Address. If there are multiple JA addresses listed, then you get a menu to select which one. The only JA thing missing that I'd really love to see in that context menu is Add JA all addresses for this contact. no, you RIGHT-CLICK that entry, then there is a context menu that has ADD_ADDRESS with menu of items to select from.. It wasn't real obvious at first, now I see, thank you!! unfortunately, I don't use the AB like that, I normally add names on the TO: line, then do the CTRL+ to get the right name.. doing it that way only gets you the first entry. I still WISH that CTRL+ would scroll through all entries for that name.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0426-1 (25.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: mercy on the smiley noise
On Saturday, June 26, 2004, 3:18 AM, you wrote: DH Tested this theory, and it turned out wrong. The focus jumps randomly DH through the list. yup, I just tried setting it to received time, and it still jumps around. I clicked on the folder tab to sort by folders, and it still does it.. Now, I DO you litestep shell, but I have no idea why my setup would be so different.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0426-1 (25.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
message ticker JUMPS after deleting a message
Hello Maxim, One thing that still bothers me, and it is very annoying, is the message ticker, jumping complete threads, accounts, going who knows where after deleting a message. I have it set to view threads by reference, but I just noticed that there is no sort-by order. Does that matter? -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (avast! version number) (avast! DB version number) (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello 9Val, Friday, June 18, 2004, 6:09:07 AM, you wrote: MG Please add a function (button?) to buld a new in memory list of MG existing .MSL files without restarting TheBat! 9 OK, only problem - I don't know where to place it :) hm, my best guess would be under specials- right under junk maybe? reload smileys- :D -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Leif, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:33:04 AM, you wrote: LG Everything should work peachy. LG This will be easier than cutting and pasting everything each time. what if we have a custom PDSF.msl ?? still gotta edit.. I know some members got RID of some smileys, they may not want them BACK and I left some IN I don't want gone :P -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Marck, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:08:47 PM, you wrote: MDP 've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. MDP First I trimmed it to the right shape and blew it back up to the MDP required dimensions. That didn't make it look any better nor did it MDP shrink the size, but it was a starting point. MDP Next, I saved it as a GIF to get the colours indexed. That only MDP reduced it to about 13kb. MDP Then I reloaded it and saved it as a new JPG and that reduced it to MDP 3kb. I did that to the new picture and reduced it from 15K to 1.8K ! -- Best regards, Paul :Paul_Cartwright: Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Leif, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:04:38 PM, you wrote: LG Hello Paul, LG Friday, June 18, 2004, 10:01:07 AM, you wrote: Paul I'll let Leif worry about it, he loves a challenge :) LG Worry about what? Your image size? I don't even have time to edit my LG own! grin Marck said: I've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. First I trimmed it to the right shape and blew it back up to the required dimensions. That didn't make it look any better nor did it shrink the size, but it was a starting point. Next, I saved it as a GIF to get the colours indexed. That only reduced it to about 13kb. Then I reloaded it and saved it as a new JPG and that reduced it to 3kb. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Januk, Friday, June 18, 2004, 2:10:45 PM, you wrote: I've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. JA This is perhaps a stupid question, but I use IrfanView all the time JA for reducing digital camera photos. Were you guys throwing out the JA EXIF data and JPG comments? They can take up quite a bit of space. JA You can select what you keep when you're saving the resized image. I just did that to Mary_Bull's and her JPG went from 39K to 1.3K awesome!! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (avast! version number) (avast! DB version number) (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some quick fixes for the next release?
Hello Martin, Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:58:21 AM, you wrote: MW Since this beta cycle is partly about bug fixes I thought I'd mention a MW couple of cosmetic 'bugs'... and I still have the very rude behavior of the ticker window jumping threads after I hit DEL. Very annoying!! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Michael, Thursday, June 17, 2004, 7:40:37 PM, you wrote: MG I have a suggestion for the new combined .MSL files in 2.12.Beta/1 for smileys: MG Please add a function (button?) to buld a new in memory list of MG existing .MSL files without restarting TheBat! I'm sure they will work on that, this is definitely a work in progress! but it sure has been FUN! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Copying text from source window (f9) not correct.
Hello Charles, Friday, June 11, 2004, 2:22:33 PM, you wrote: CMG quick I highlighted quick and hit F4. It copied quick. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0424-2 (09.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.11 Beta/RC1 is now available
Hello aam, Monday, May 31, 2004, 4:05:36 PM, you wrote: aas But what they mean is: there is finally, after all these years, a aas STATUS BAR INDICATOR aas of whether AutoFormat (etc. etc.) is switched on or off. I don't see it, where should I look??? or how do I turn it on? -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/RC1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: place of the emoticon folder
Hello Jurgen, Saturday, May 29, 2004, 9:11:43 AM, you wrote: JH ask again, how do I set that up? JH I copied that images folder into programs/TheBat, so that the full path is like JH programs/thebat/images, right? and *inside* of that images folder are all the JH .ico files _plus_ this: pdsf.msl right? do you start TB from a shortcut? You need to make sure you have the START-IN folder identified as your program files\TheBat! FOLDER.. then restart TB. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: CHAT- Account properties WAS-Re: Mail Chat.
Hello Dierk, Friday, May 28, 2004, 1:28:01 PM, you wrote: so, Marck Told you where to go... DH ROTLMAO. DH You'd have to wait for him to see how true this statement is. hey, why not, I can wait :) I'm already waiting for Leif to put the smileys of the rogues gallery on his web site.. have a good weekend! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More smilies - HEY Trill !!!! This is for you.
Hello Dierk, Friday, May 28, 2004, 1:30:53 PM, you wrote: IIRC, Trill watches this list too. If not, I'll post to TBUDL once more people have D/L'd the release. DH Are you talking about the same girl I've just over here, or is this DH one more of the Macmillan variety (that is: Homo sapiens, more or DH less)? well, I may be off-base here, but I think he is referring to Mary B... but I could be wrong! If I am I owe you a beer (b) -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: CHAT- Account properties WAS-Re: Mail Chat.
Hello Marck, Friday, May 28, 2004, 1:36:36 PM, you wrote: so, Marck Told you where to go... DH ROTLMAO. DH You'd have to wait for him to see how true this statement is. MDP (gasp) It's twooo... it's TWOO! (Madeline Kahn - Blazing Saddles). LOL LOL LOL LOL :guns: -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 is now available
Hello 9Val, Thursday, May 27, 2004, 11:48:47 AM, you wrote: PC I'm not sure I understand how to insert a smiley.. 9 Smileys as images are not insertable. Just type smiley as text - and 9 it will be shown as image in newest TB! versions and other programs, 9 which handle them, and it will be shown as regular text smiley for 9 others. but the image folder has LOTS of different smiley icons, how do you select which one to use?? ;) ;( ;0) -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 is now available
Hello 9Val, Thursday, May 27, 2004, 12:24:47 PM, you wrote: PC but the image folder has LOTS of different smiley icons, how do you PC select which one to use?? ;( ;0) 9 See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I read that, and didn't understand it, sorry. The image folder has smiley icon files. AIM has a button for you to select which smiley to use, I see no way to select an image file or icon, and only 1 of the 3 I tried to use worked. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Heading off at the pass.
Hello NetVicious, Thursday, May 27, 2004, 5:36:41 PM, you wrote: N jueves, 27 may 2004 at 19:22, it seems you wrote: LG You'll see how they have the and whatnot. ahh, so just use any of those formats... but not...f... N mmm, I see a little bug. N Icons have alpha background, but TB! draws the background of the icons N in white. N Confirmations? yes, I just noticed that. Outside the smiley faces, are white borders, in the shape of a square. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Heading off at the pass.
Hello Johannes, Thursday, May 27, 2004, 5:55:08 PM, you wrote: Thanks .. that fixes the smileys here as well. Now lets see if smileys interfere with validating pgp signatures. JP Seems not to. Just to double-check... did the START-IN fix your problem?? That seems to be the one thing that breaks the smileys, using a shortcut to start TB with no START-IN folder defined. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: batting the bat
Hello Patrick, PE as i announced some time ago, i wrote a bit about my quest for finding a PE new email client. here it is: http://techtech.blogspot.com/ I liked it, here is the entire article, just so people don't have to go FIND it:), and I agree, I think IMAP support should have been a bigger priority than some of the NEW features, like virtual folders ( but that's just my opinion;0) batting the bat or how i switched email clients.. there are different types of email clients. on the pc side of the world you can maybe differentiate between outlook-like types (easy and unflexible) and netscape mail-like types (the classical 3 panel setup - folders, messages, message preview - multiple accounts, filters and so on..). i've always been in the latter camp with using, certainly, netscape, pmmail/2 and for the last years the bat. the bat has always been the closest to pmmail, that's why it has been chosen at the time (some 4 years ago) and it was fast as hell even with giant message bases at that time of some 10.000 messages. but - this was then and now is now. the world of email changed radically, first with the heavy increase of spam, than of virii and worms and later with the demand for increased mobility and the need for synchronisation or online access to you mailbox by IMAP. today, message bases of power users count in the gigabytes and 100.000 messages. using an email client seems to be a bit like driving a car of a certain brand. when you need a new car you take the successor of your old one. so, when a new version of my mail client is released, i certainly use that. with the bat it was the same, i shelled out the 45 EUR for the business version, i use it partly for that purpose and appreciate the work on a program of that complexity. but then, things went ugly. the IMAP support in the bat's 1.x branch was crude but usable, it basically provided the same functionality like you had with POP3. the 2.0 release of the bat, expected and announced for years, promised high and mighty full IMAPrev1 support - but what an exaggeration! from the developers point of view this statement may even have been right - client and server could exchange commands and data according to IMAPrev1 - but the client side was so lousy! basic UI considerations like instant feedback was not provided. filtering mechanisms - the proud of the POP3 side of the bat just didn't work. but not enough, after waiting some months until the arrival of a maintenance version which, after some testing provided at least an again usable IMAP support i bought my license in the hope, that ritlabs (the developers of the bat) are working on fullfilling their promises. a week later they suddenly removed the full IMAP-support advertising. great. i bought a new version with a lot of new mostly questionable usefull features minus one usefull. thanks. it was time to look thoroughly for an alternative. finding an email client with full IMAP support turned out to be hopeless - if i didn't want to change to, cough, outlook. yes, outlook is the only email client on the market which uses the strong points of IMAP to an extent, that you could call innovative. it hurts a bit to say such things abut the big evil from redmond, but hey, honour where honour belongs to.. IMAP offers multiple connections to servers, server side folders and searching, server side implemented instant notification about new messages without the need to check every x minutes (not all servers support all features, but their enough out there who do). but these features are supported only by outlook and to some extent from mulberry (which has a lot of drawbacks in other areas, IMHO) ok, i forgot about my IMAP dreams and concentrated on the client's capabilities when it comes to managing my mail. i have multiple accounts, i have a lot of contacts, receive some 100 mails a day and never throw away anything - i keep even spam for some time - you never know what's gonna happen to your penis ;) after installing and uninstalling some ten or fifteen different demo versions of email clients i sat back and tried to tackle the problem differently - by thinking about it. my first question was what is email? email is an exchange of information - and more and more a tool for archiving it. you can at best compare it with the letters and documents you find in your (real life) mailbox. and suddenly i realized something strange: in the last years i had developed two completely different approaches of handling email on the one side and dead tree documents on the other. in RL i try to spend as few time as possible on organizing my working life. i get the bills, enter them into the tax program, put them in a file and that's it. quarterly i do my turnover tax statement and put the file with the bills into a box. all letters which require an action go into a todo file - everything else gets into a different file and get into a big box at the end of the years - which goes into the basement later.
Re: Can not sent attachments (was Re: PGP mime messages will not send)
Hello David, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 3:32:29 PM, you wrote: DE I will try and go back a beta or two and see what happens. DE That did not work. DE I have even done a backup, un-install, wipe, reinstall and it is still not DE working. when you say WIPE, do you mean you cleaned the registry of all ritlabs entries?? if not, try doing that also.. DE Attachments that I am sending are also getting corrupted. your email was PGP-verified, you don't by any chance have encrypt turned on by default do you?? that you make a file LOOK corrupt. DE I am seriously thinking of using something different, because The Bat! has DE now become unusable as far as I am concerned. now, now, you obviously have a problem that is localized to your system, I send attachments on a regular basis.. DE I have just tried to send this with a pgp mime sign and it failed the log DE from The Bat! was no, it verified here:) maybe you should start over and not install PGP? if you would like to send me an attachment so I can see what is happening, let me know, I'd be glad to help. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (avast! version number) (avast! DB version number) (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The new RC, TB! and IMAP
Hello ken, Sunday, April 18, 2004, 3:03:09 AM, you wrote: Many ways to do this. First, if I am going to go anywhere among civilization and need to be 'connected' I'll have the notebook since there is only so much I want to fool with when it entails 'jot' or other PITA keyboard substitutes. kg :) I have thought the same thing. But now depend on my PDA. my problem with that solution is $$$. If I had a laptop, all I would need to travel is dialup access to the internet ( local # of course). I don't have a PDA ( well, I do have an old Handspring Visor, but I gave it to my son). With a PDA, first, they aren't cheap. then you have to pay extra each month to have internet access with it right? So, tell me your solution and how much it costs per month. My wonderful cablemodem provider doesn't even package dialup services with my account, so when I travel, right now I don't even have a free dialup account. thank you very much Comcast;( -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0416-3 (17.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The new RC, TB! and IMAP
Hello ken, Sunday, April 18, 2004, 3:03:09 AM, you wrote: kg True, it could be worse. And yes, RitLabs does seem to work hard at kg getting releases out. I'd sure love to read some definitive answers kg to IMAP - not necessarily fixes - just a commitment to what is being kg addressed, what the priority is, the direction of IMAP development, kg etc. I have been following the entire beta series, though I didn't download each and every update, I am now on the new release 2.10.01 ( at least I THINK it is the newest, you have to be QUICK these days;) I also tried to work with the IMAP accounts, got toally frustrated and dumped my IMAP account ( it was free) and just use POP3 now. If it had been put to a vote, I would have FOR SURE voted for better IMAP support before adding virtual folders. FOR MY PERSONAL NEEDS ( my opinion here:) I would rather have TB work with IMAP than to add and monkey around with some concept like Virtual folders. And I second your comments about that issue. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0416-3 (17.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: preview window scroll bug
Hello Bobi, Saturday, April 17, 2004, 10:44:47 PM, you wrote: BJ Click in the mail preview window, and use scroll-up/scroll-down key, the BJ window will scroll 2 pages or random pages instead of one. Bizarre and BJ annoying. BJ Bug exists but no only exists in version 2.10/2.10.01. I thought it was my eyes this morning, but I can definitely confirm that behavior!!! I would hilight some text and BANG! the window would move to a new area of text! scrolling was almost impossible on any message over one screen length. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0416-3 (17.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Two new bugs
Hello Dierk, Sunday, April 18, 2004, 7:50:14 AM, you wrote: DH Either I don't understand what to do to get this bug. Or I cannot DH confirm it. how about this: BJ Click in the mail preview window, and use scroll-up/scroll-down key, the BJ window will scroll 2 pages or random pages instead of one. Bizarre and BJ annoying. I found this issue when I tried to read an email that was larger than a screen... -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0416-3 (17.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Losing mail?!
Hello Dierk, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 2:13:54 PM, you wrote: DH Interestingly I seem to have lost those messages, they are not even DH in the Trash bin. The Inbox is set to compress but not delete old DH messages and doesn't have any limit (size or time) for holding DH messages. you know, since I use the mail ticker to read mail ( new mail only) and only use the search function to hunt for other messages, I couldn't tell you if I have lost any messages... my inboxes have hundreds of messages in them that filters didn't move, and I haven't deleted (yet). I do know my backup size is growing, so it must be adding new messages, but how would I know if one was deleted without knowing which account to look in? -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.10 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0416-1 (15.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.10 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Free TLS / IMAP test for you all
Hello Leif, Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 12:44:57 PM, you wrote: LG Ok, since people have been posting a few messages having problems LG with IMAP and TLS, I created a mail account on my server that LG supports POP3, IMAP4, and TLS for you all to use to test your LG configurations. I don't have any IMAP accounts ( I used to, but gave it up;), and I'm not sure what TLS is. For instance, I looked at the domain hosting service at lunarpages.com: http://lunarpages.com/plan1.htm and it mentions POP, SMTP and IMAP, but not TLS. why would I use TLS? -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0404-4 (07.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.05 beta 14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Free TLS / IMAP test for you all
Hello Leif, Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 12:44:57 PM, you wrote: LG Hello tbbeta, LG Ok, since people have been posting a few messages having problems LG with IMAP and TLS, I created a mail account on my server that LG supports POP3, IMAP4, and TLS for you all to use to test your LG configurations. I tried to send mail and got this error: message has not been sent. Server reply- we do not relay without RFC2554 authentication. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0404-4 (07.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.05 beta 14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Free TLS / IMAP test for you all
Hello Leif, Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 5:09:17 PM, you wrote: LG Hello Paul, LG Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 2:57:19 PM, you wrote: Paul message has not been sent. Server reply- we do not relay without Paul RFC2554 authentication. LG You sent it to which address from which address using which server? uh huh:) LG You should be able to send e-mail to tbtest AT saltedbrain DOT org LG from whatever account you use to normally send mail. However, you can LG not send mail using my server unless I have created a mail account LG specifically for you. ARG! I knew that! I used the same server for SMTP as POP3.. I'll change the SEND info;0) never mind! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0404-4 (07.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.05 beta 14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Free TLS / IMAP test for you all
Hello Jernej, Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 4:54:26 PM, you wrote: JS TLS = encryption. Typically you use TLS when you communicate with secure web JS servers, but it can be used with other protocols as well. Using TLS prevents JS anybody from eavesdropping your communication with the server. like PGP encrypted mail? of course anyone can now look on the server and SEE my message ( because I left it there;), but they couldn't hijack it while it was being sent. thanks! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0404-4 (07.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.05 beta 14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How about common virtual folder?
Hello Marco, Sunday, April 4, 2004, 8:09:25 AM, you wrote: MLNot only I agree with Greg and Allie and MAU that mixing real with ML virtual messages isn't a good idea, I do believe it does not make any ML sense. The discussion, which has become very complicated and tedious ML to follow, so far has found patches to patches in the attempt to ML implement hybrid VFs at all costs. I stopped following the thread long ago, as I found no need/desire/interest in virtual folders, and it sure seems to me also that time would be better spent fixing existing problems, than to try to implement an idea that people don't seem to agree on. This sounds more like a database issue... pointers to files or messages, and it sounds like it should have been fought out in tbdev first, not here. just my 1 1/2 cents worth ;) -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0404-0 (02.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.05 beta 12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How about common virtual folder?
Hello Allie, Sunday, April 4, 2004, 9:38:51 AM, you wrote: AM This very much eclipses my feeling on this. The Hybrid concept is AM really a tedious one to make work and to implement without creating AM confusion and problems for all except those who want it. :) Keep it as AM simple as possible. TB! has been quite remarkable in making so much AM power so relatively simple to harness. how do I know if I want it when I can't figure out how it works, or what I am supposed to do with it? before it even got fully implemented it was already under deep discussion to change it, or say it wasn't supposed to work that way... -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0404-0 (02.04.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.05 beta 12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Importing Multiple E-mail Addresses
Hello Januk, Sunday, March 7, 2004, 4:21:17 PM, you wrote: JA You can access them by using address picker when composing a message. JA Just right click on a contact that has multiple addresses. Select Add JA Address and you can select which one you want. It would be nice if JA the address picker could use a tree view to display a contact's JA multiple addresses. It would make selecting multiple addresses easier. I think MANY people miss this option, I know **I** do:) JA One thing that is completely missing (unless I missed its JA announcement), is a way of inserting the alternate email addresses JA using templates. The %AB macros will match any of the listed JA addresses, but %ABnnnEMAIL inserts only the primary address. I wish CTRL-+ would select it, as one of the options -- Best regards, Paul Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TBBETA Mission Statement
Hello Marck, Monday, March 1, 2004, 11:09:40 AM, you wrote: TF No, I'm not going to send a comment. I am going to bite my TF tongue until it bleeds. Trying, trying, ... failed. Ouch. MDP bb Hello, System support services? ... Yes, Marck here... MDP Yes, look, can you send down someone with a wipe?... Blood, I MDP think... Yes, on my screen... No, not mine... Thomas... No, he MDP doesn't work here... No, it's e-blood... Look, just send someone, MDP okay? and then give him an E-hug so he feels better:) -- Best regards, Paul Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wishlist about MicroEd?
Hello Marcus, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 5:00:39 PM, you wrote: Doesn't work here, whether selecting text or not. MO Using MicroEd? Selecting hole lines? Still holding ctrl and k while MO pressing i? ok, that works fine! but now my cursor is stuck in indent mode, whether I hit return or not. -- Best regards, Paul Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MOD: Using Mail Inspector and the like
Hello Leif, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 4:33:42 PM, you wrote: LG We do not have a list rule that addresses the use of mail/spam LG blocking software (like Mail Inspector) on the lists, and I don't LG believe we're going to create one. This is primarily a hope to inform, LG and to have this available in the list archives so that people might LG see it and understand. I'm not sure I understand. We don't have Mail inspector on TBUDL or TBOT, right? But you've seen it on other lists? Is this a method to moderate a list? If not, why else would they use it? -- Best regards, Paul Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wishlist about MicroEd?
Hello Marcus, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 5:17:18 PM, you wrote: ok, that works fine! but now my cursor is stuck in indent mode, whether I hit return or not. MO If I correctly understand what you mean by indent mode, you can MO escape it by hitting back space on an empty line. Or moving the cursor MO by mouse. thanks, I'll have to play with that. I've tried that before, and I remember it was a pain to get my sentences back to the original UN-indented mode. -- Best regards, Paul Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MOD: Using Mail Inspector and the like
Hello Leif, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 5:22:09 PM, you wrote: LG There are people on the lists who are using software like Mail LG Inspector who subscribed as users. You'll never see a message from LG their spam software unless you post to the list. I read this paragraph over about 4 or 5 times, and I'm still not sure ... I do post to the list, not everyday, but I /do/. I'm subscribed to tbudl and tbbeta, and I swear I've never seen a message like that before. -- Best regards, Paul Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.02 CE RC is now available
On Friday, December 5, 2003, 9:52 PM, you wrote: AM The stuff is being tested now. We're using a beta. no, it's a release candidate, right ?G AM I'd hope you backup while using them. If you lose anything using a beta AM then you only have yourself to blame. :) It's happened to me when the AM first beta with the folder view feature came. I couldn't roll back AM versions since I didn't have a recent backup. My fault. I also implemented your backup batch file, rolled the backup and regedit into one file. It took a while of testing, at first it just brought up a dos box, and quit with no error or message. After fixing some quote marks, etc, paths ( had to create the path FIRST) it did the backup and registry export. nice script, thanks again!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current beta is 2.01.56 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot go back to .26
On Saturday, November 22, 2003, 12:17 PM, you wrote: I can confirm this finding. :( It seems b49 changes something in the account and/or folder properties that is NOT backwards compatible. GS Thanks for the update Dierk Dimitry. I think I'll sit with .26 until GS more information is available on the reasons why the backward GS compatibility does NOT exist, and some of the fixes are made to .49. GS Thanks again! I went back, had the problems, and renamed all the *.CFG files, restarted TB and it worked. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 see Kludges for PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current beta is 2.01.49 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2.01.49 is now available
On Friday, November 21, 2003, 2:07 PM, you wrote: ST The Bat! v2.01.49 is now available PP [...] ST [+] View Modes for message list when I installed thebat.exe, it lost all of my settings for the browse message pane. no folders, and no threading. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.49 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 see Kludges for PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current beta is 2.01.49 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2.01.49 is now available-hopefully not for long
On Friday, November 21, 2003, 2:07 PM, you wrote: PP Doesn't work correctly. so, I went back to 2.01.03 ( or is it really 2.01.3 ??) and when I tried to double click the ticker to bring up the browse message window I got an ERROR. When I clicked OK, it just brought up another error window, then another. I had to **kill* TB, rename all the config files and restart TB. I can see this beta will be short lived... oh, the error said invalid parameter. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 see Kludges for PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current beta is 2.01.49 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP Kludges
I'm not sure what happened, but I was reading an email, and I wanted to read the kludges, so I hit CTRL-SHFT-K and...nothing happened. I was in the browse window, so I switched to the main Bat window, selected the message in the folder, tried it again, and nothing. I had to go to the View-RFC-822 headers and check it. this was a PGP encrypted message if that makes any difference. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.20 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 see Kludges for PGP key Current beta is 2.01.20 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: S/MIME signing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Kevin, KC I don't use S/MIME much but when I installed my Thawte certificate KC they tested fine using The Bat's Internal Implementation. With this KC beta version my experience is the same as yours. Password not KC accepted. KC I changed the S/MIME options to use Microsoft CryptoAPI and this is KC the result. my little icon says Invalid certificate. I just got my thawte certificate last week ( and updated/renewd my other email certs that expired in April;) and when I tried to sign it, I got : invalid certificate The issuer of this certificate chain was not found - -- Best regards, Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBP6AHH9Bl8DJXSdrxEQKTVwCeKPQ2vz0MduKon1kJ5V1w7Zh3fKkAoLHB B1EDoG5VvGGeA2HiMBJsOtua =OtgO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 2.01.15 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters on IMAP with TB 2.0
K as far as I've seen, automatic filtering does not work with TB K 2.0 on IMAP accounts. Is it gonna be changed in the near future ? I noticed that problem myself, but thought it was just me. I have had some very weird problems with IMAP only, but I really don't use the IMAP account I have for much of anything. I subscribed to the tbbeta list with that account, just to test it. I have seen my browse ticker window totally redraw itself while I was reading a message, all of the BOLD ( unread) messages disappear, go away, then come back. the filters don't work, and I had to go to my web interface for my IMAP account to create a folder before I could create a filter, TB said it couldn't create a folder, permission denied. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot use GnuPG
PM I gladly found v2.0 offerring the ID field again in the passphrase PM dialog! PM So here goes with GnuPG. :-)) verified here just fine! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to run 1.62r and 2.0 on the same machine?
JB I wonder if it's possible to run thebat 1.62r and 2.0 on the same JB machine? I dont mean to run them at the same time but if something JB would go wrong with 2.0 is it then possible just to replace the .exe JB file with 1.62r .exe file? Or does the new version screw with the JB different settings so it is not possible to go back? I am running 1.63 beta 5 and TB V2 on the same box ( XP home). each logon user can use a different version, and they can both be run from the same user account, as long as you use RUNAS. user A installs 1.63 user B installs TBV2 ( different folder of course) user A right-clicks the TBv2.exe and selects RUNSAS and runs it as userB. works for me:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2.0 RC1
it hasn't gotten any better with the final V2 version, the memory usage still creaps up.. every time you check mail. MC No problems here. It seems to jump up a random amount when I check my MC mail (sometimes as much as 1-2MB), but always settles back down to MC around 16.4MB on my system using WinXP Pro SP1/The Bat! 2.0 Final. MC Note, if I keep mashing the check mail button rapidly, it will MC continue to go up, but when I finally lay off it settles back out. well, without doing any mASHING, I just checked and my mem usage is almost at the max usage, 26K, vs 28K peak. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Educational Bat!
PC much better, but still a few problems with IMAP and memory.. PM Too bad I can't test the IMAP part as none of my providers supports PM it... easily you could:) do like I did and get a free IMAP fastmail.fm account. www.fastmail.fm and sign up! https://www.fastmail.fm/mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED];Ust=23a49c58!;Uid=fc267dd5dc123befc871!1062537720;UBd=fastmail;[EMAIL PROTECTED] a guest account gives you: 10 MB storage space 40 MB bw/month IMAP/Web access 45 day no activity period Taglines on emails Ads in the web-interface (no pop-ups) signup here: https://www.fastmail.fm/mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED];Ust=23a49c58!;UBd=fastmail;[EMAIL PROTECTED],1!N=1 PM As for memory: I only have 64 MB physical RAM, but I don't observe any PM problems. Maybe it's because I'm using RAM-idle from tweaknow.com ...? I have 256 megs, and I don't use any memory programs, but for you, win98 needs all the help it can getG PC I can live with the icons, I don't get all wild about buttons, they just PC serve a purpose:) PM Some time ago I composed my own glyphs.bmp by taking the icons I liked PM from several glyphs files. Perhaps I'm a bit conservative here, but I PM like what I'm used to, so I'll stick to my more colorful icons. :o) hey, whatever works for you!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Additional Registration Information
TR Tjänare Paul, TR Monday, September 1, 2003, 10:08:55 PM, you wrote: PC although the ABOUT message still says RC1. TR Actually it doesn't :-) At least mine copy claims to be 2.00. oh, GEEZ!! I downloaded the 2.0 but forgot to MOVE it to the correct folder -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Additional Registration Information
actually, thebat.exe is now available in the beta folder... although the ABOUT message still says RC1. DF It seems that you haven't installed it by running the_bat.exe. It's DF not only the exe but a complete installation archive. You're still DF using RC1 but my ABOUT reads Version 2.0 like my automatically DF generated footer line. you are so right! I had downloaded but not installed it.. the tip-off should have been the filename ( the_bat) AND the size difference.. 2,192 not 5,000KB.. all installed NOW ! ( see sig ;) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Hogging
AM Jonathan Angliss, [JA] wrote: JA That is a scary thought that the implementation of IMAP has caused JA such a huge memory spike, even though you're not using it. :/ I JA think the memory usage is something that _really_ needs addressing JA before the release, which interestingly is tomorrow, and there are JA still a lot of bugs. I'm not going to be able to use TB all day if JA have to keep restarting it every hour. AM On the rise again. AM Mem Use 12MB AM Peak Mem Use 19.3 AM Virt Mem 117.2MB AM Some VM is added each time TB! interacts with my mail server. The VM use AM is like a counter going up and up. where exactly are you getting those figures, I'd like to compare mine.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP settings
I'm not sure, but I thought I changed my PGP settings for the root server and it reverted back to the old one. I also have the cache signing for 12 hours yet it asks me everytime to sign. these are all options under privacy, not using PGPtools. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: feature request: if sender is in addrbook, do not treat as spam
but what you said is about using sort-office as spam filters. what i mean is the new spam plugin with learning capability (find anti-spam plugin in preferences.) i'm not sure which one is processed first, spam plugin or regular filters. JO well, i am sorry, i just forgot about. if you're using the integrated how do you use the integrated spam plugin. I don't have a plugin to add, where do you get it JO Possibly Alexey is reading this thread and comes up with some ideas of JO how to integrate that into BayesIt. is popfile a plugin??? I already use popfile -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
