Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Tony,

On 19-03-2013 17:58, you wrote in 
mid:1693679280.20130319165...@parkinch.co.uk:
 Hello Maxim,

 The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar

 IMAP incoming filtering still broken. Please, please, PLEASE take a look at
 this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=152

IMAP filters have been broken for 2-3 years. I think Ritlabs have given up. I 
have
decided that I will not upgrade unless this is fixed. Nobody from Ritlabs have
contacted any on the people on this list with issues to try an fix the problem.

Either they have decided that it's a bad business decision to fix it - or they 
are
simply unable to. I have been using TB since some 1.x (maybe 2.x) version but 
this
inability to meet my needs (and their quality control) make any coming version 
not
interesting for me.


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Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-17 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart,

On 15-02-2013 14:57, you wrote in mid:126478226.20130215075...@fastmail.fm:
 Unfortunately I can confirm that IMAP filters are not 100% consistent. I have
 not filed a bug report because I cannot nail down any pattern. I have 
 reported 
 it on this list several times, but there does not seem to be any confirmation.

Well, I am certain I have confirmed a number of times.

Some filters (move from inbox to sub folder and assign colour group) work on 
and off
whereas others - a common filter that marks all messages in certain folders 
(spam
folders in all accounts) has never worked.

 My main issue is that I receive multiple messages that are marked as read and
 moved to a different folder. If I receive 50 messages, 49 of them will be 
 filtered correctly, but the other message will be moved, but not marked a 
 read.

(...)

 I also have a similar problem with list messages, which get colored as they 
 get 
 filtered into their respective account. They usually get filtered correctly, 
 but 
 not always. No pattern that I can see.

This is the first case I am mentioning.

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Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-17 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 17-02-2013 14:29, I wrote in mid:61917798.20130217142...@fjelsten.dk:
 Some filters (move from inbox to sub folder and assign colour group) work on 
 and off
 whereas others - a common filter that marks all messages in certain folders 
 (spam
 folders in all accounts) has never worked.

- correction:

Has not worked after the IMAP rewrite.

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Re: 5.3.2.2

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Trying QR as well for the first time. UR



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Re: IMAP filtering problem

2012-09-05 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Martin,

On 05-09-2012 19:56, you wrote in mid:18910170225.20120905195...@yahoo.com:
 Something seems not to work.

IMAP filtering seems to have a number of problems. Apparently, Ritlabs does not
seem to think this is worthwhile to fix.

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Re: IMAP filters

2012-08-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Tony,

On 13-08-2012 11:53, you wrote in mid:44704926.20120813105...@parkinch.co.uk:
PF For me, it's only 30% of the time for moving and assigning colour group 
and 0%
PF of marking read (common filter marking spam read in spam folders)


 In my account filters that moves messages works in 90%, but marking as
 read only 60%.

 It seems like 50% for moving messages.

It's very strange to me that such basic functionality has remained unfixed for
years.

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Re: IMAP filters

2012-08-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Raymund,

On 14-08-2012 18:16, you wrote in mid:1119255330.20120814181...@vegan.de:
  I am the only one p*ssed off that IMAP filtering still does not work?

 No, you're not.

 Especially the combination of an IMAP filter and refresh of a common
 folder or the mail ticker is a headache.

Hey Ritlabs - are you listening?

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IMAP filters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

 I am the only one p*ssed off that IMAP filtering still does not work?

 mid:1636338697.20120509211...@fjelsten.dk,
 mid:1905948900.2012095...@fjelsten.dk, etc...

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Re: IMAP filters

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart,

On 12-08-2012 23:00, you wrote in
mid:blu0-smtp4302024afb6d3eb001b653fdd...@phx.gbl:
PF  I am the only one p*ssed off that IMAP filtering still does not work?

 No, I have problems in IMAP accounts as well. However mine seem to be that 
 filters will work 95% of the time and then the 5% slip and do not filter 
 correctly.

For me, it's only 30% of the time for moving and assigning colour group and 0%
of marking read (common filter marking spam read in spam folders)

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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Re: Improving IMAP speed

2012-05-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Eddie,

On 09-05-2012 20:17, you wrote in mid:217835775.20120509211...@gmail.com:
 Is  this possible to restrict the amount of eMails permanently present
 in the IMAP account?

Why not open folder properties for relevant folders and select: Keep XX messages
in base. Then set up alternate deletion to move it to a local folder.

I use this with IMAP with success (for emptying my spam folder)

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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Re: Filters working in v5?

2012-04-29 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Raymund,

On 29-04-2012 09:04, you wrote in mid:16310293318.20120429090...@gmx.de:
 I have a filter that moves a received message from an IMAP account to
 a common folder and afterwards set it to read.

 Move works fine. Changing the status doesn't.

Moving on IMAP works for me 40-60% of the time. Marking as read or assigning
colour group doesn't.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.1.2 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: Threaded view

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 22-04-2012 16:09, you wrote in mid:163300848.20120422160...@gmail.com:
 What is your setting in Options/Preferences/Message List for Limit
 expansion of first column to?

For me this setting does not work at all.

I do not want it to expand (1) but it does anyway.

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Re: mantis database

2012-04-20 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 21-04-2012 00:56, you wrote in mid:972238464.20120421015...@ritlabs.com:
   We  have  lost  the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that and
   would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please visit
   the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you.

An easy way to make TB bug free ;-)

Sorry to hear this.

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Re: Modules or Plug ins for The Bat

2012-04-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hi Ethan,

On 15-04-2012 12:59, you wrote in mid:178406421.20120415065...@consultant.com:
 I'm  not  really  convinced  it  will  work  with  this  version  and  the 
 process of
 installation makes it very very unattractive to install.

I can say it works quite well with the version in my signature.

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Re: Modules or Plug ins for The Bat

2012-04-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Ethan,

On 15-04-2012 14:36, you wrote in mid:25723637.20120415083...@consultant.com:
 Still,  it  is  way  too complicated for my CEO and Chief Operating Officers 
 to deal
 with.

I agree, it's for tech savvies only.

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Re: Modules or Plug ins for The Bat

2012-04-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Dwight,

On 15-04-2012 18:28, you wrote in mid:149021511.20120415112...@fastmail.fm:
 I agree, it's for tech savvies only.

 every  day  to use it, or for the few minutes it would take to set it 
 up? (Personally, I'm very satisfied with Google Reader) 

Just to set it up (or add/delete feeds). It's set and forget.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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Re: Bugs not being fixed

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 11-01-2012 08:13, you wrote in mid:1137807229.20120111081...@ipex.cz:
 about filters, what probelms do You have?

 mid:1999057432.20111220214...@fjelsten.dk

 Are there messages processed by different filter or not filtered at all?

No filtering at all. They just sit in the inbox. Manual filtering works.

The filter moves the message and assigns a colour group to it - and these colour
groups never stick for long (between sessions?).

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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Re: Bugs not being fixed

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 10-01-2012 09:09, you wrote in mid:1651538847.20120110090...@ipex.cz:
 3: And most importantly, FILTERS  Still nmot working right.

 about filters, what probelms do You have?

mid:1999057432.20111220214...@fjelsten.dk


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Re: 5.0.26.18

2011-12-20 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 08-12-2011 19:26, you wrote in mid:177293669.20111208202...@ritlabs.com:
 The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb502618.rar

Filtering (move to another remote folder and assign colour group) still does not
work consistently for me.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: 5.0.26.17

2011-12-06 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 06-12-2011 21:30, you wrote in mid:897658528.20111206223...@ritlabs.com:
 Thank  you very much. We have some work to do: to make VFs work properly with
 IMAP, but we would appreciate any feedback anyway.

I know I am thread hijacking but for me IMAP filtering (moving and colouring)
still does not work consistently (most often not at all).

Any hints or known errors?

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.18.6 (BETA) Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
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Re: 5.0.18.8

2011-08-10 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 09-08-2011 15:32:18, you wrote in mid:896756726.20110809153...@fjelsten.dk:
 Colour groups seem to stick now when assigned in the latest versions, thank 
 you.

This does not work anymore in the latest version.

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thebat version 5.0.22.6 (ALPHA) Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
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Re: 5.0.18.8

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 22-07-2011 13:32:19, you wrote in mid:136239416.20110722133...@fjelsten.dk:
 So, if you have any problems with CGs, please add details.

 I use colour groups like this:

 I have a filter that assigns a colour group while moving a message from the
 Inbox to a folder.

 For some messages this is assigned, and for some not. Of course messages are 
 no
 always moved but that's anther problem.

 Colour groups seem to stick now when assigned in the latest versions, thank 
 you.

Still not fixed for the latest version

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: 5.0.18.8

2011-07-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stefan,

On 20-07-2011 16:40, you wrote in mid:653364417.20110720174...@thebat.net:
PF When do you plan on getting colour groups to work with IMAP?

 They  are  working  with IMAP servers that support user-defined flags.

It's Dovecot

 So, if you have any problems with CGs, please add details.

I use colour groups like this:

I have a filter that assigns a colour group while moving a message from the
Inbox to a folder.

For some messages this is assigned, and for some not. Of course messages are no
always moved but that's anther problem.

Colour groups seem to stick now when assigned in the latest versions, thank you.

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.18.6 (BETA) Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: 5.0.18.8

2011-07-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 22-07-2011 13:32, I wrote in mid:136239416.20110722133...@fjelsten.dk:
 I use colour groups like this:

 I have a filter that assigns a colour group while moving a message from the
 Inbox to a folder.

 For some messages this is assigned, and for some not. Of course messages are 
 no
 always moved but that's anther problem.

BTW, the filter test for a string (e-mail address in the header) so no full
download should be necessary.

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/extras
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Re: 5.0.18.8

2011-07-20 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 20-07-2011 05:39, you wrote in mid:977202277.20110719223...@ritlabs.com:
 [*] Colour Group selection now reflects colour and style setting of the groups

When do you plan on getting colour groups to work with IMAP?

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IMAP: Unknown namespace

2011-06-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

In the latest versions I get a lot of unknown namespaces:

30-06-2011, 21:48:03: IMAP - Unknown namespace.
30-06-2011, 21:48:03: IMAP - Unknown namespace.
30-06-2011, 21:53:03: IMAP - Unknown namespace.
30-06-2011, 21:53:03: IMAP - Unknown namespace.

Anyone else?

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/extras
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Re: 5.0.16.1

2011-06-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 28-06-2011 20:42, you wrote in mid:1438227608.20110628214...@ritlabs.com:
 [-] Various issues with ViewModes

Can you elaborate?

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IMAP synchronisation

2011-06-25 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Ritlabs,

 When do you plan on fixing synchronisation? This has not worked for me in any
 of the 5 series.

 My mailhost was down today and since the mail was not synchronised, it was
 unavailable to me.

 Please fix this NOW.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: 5.0.12.13

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 06-06-2011 21:41, you wrote in mid:122479473.20110606224...@ritlabs.com:
 What's new in 5.0.12.13 since 5.0.12.12:

Automatic filtering for IMAP does not seem to work at all. It worked better in
the version I used before (5.0.8.1)

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: 5.0.12.13

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 14-06-2011 19:31, you wrote in mid:1371345769.20110614193...@fjelsten.dk:
 Automatic filtering for IMAP does not seem to work at all.

Modification: It seems to work on messages coming in while TB is running but not
if you start TB where there are already messages in the Inbox.

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.12.13 (BETA) Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 /os



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Re: Phantom Taskbar Button Icon

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Richard,

On 14-06-2011 15:40, you wrote in mid:1941933797.20110614094...@gmail.com:
 I used to see it but not since an official 5.0 release.

Ditto

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/extras
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Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?

2011-04-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 18-04-2011 19:06, you wrote in mid:21215089.20110418190...@ipex.cz:
 since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can
 confirm?

So far it looks good here.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
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Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?

2011-04-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 18-04-2011 20:02, you wrote in mid:14410050916.20110418200...@fjelsten.dk:
 On 18-04-2011 19:06, you wrote in mid:21215089.20110418190...@ipex.cz:
 since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can
 confirm?

 So far it looks good here.

Not any more.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: 5.0.6

2011-04-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 02-04-2011 01:22, you wrote in mid:5710562060.20110402022...@ritlabs.com:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-6.msi

I want to keep the old installation and only use a different Exe. Will
installing this version overwrite my 4.x installation so that I cannot go back?

Could someone send me/post just the Exe?

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
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Re: 5.0.6

2011-04-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
mse,

On 02-04-2011 13:46, you wrote in mid:1465978405.20110402134...@gmx.net:
 You can extract the exe from the msi-file using 7ZIP.

Excellent. I did extract the MSI but did not think of looking inside the cab
file.

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: 5.05 Yesterday's threads with a post from today do not promote from yesterday

2011-04-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Rick,

On 01-04-2011 22:06, you wrote in mid:1336997029.20110401160...@gmail.com:
 Yesterday's threads with a post from today do not promote from yesterday. I
 have a thread under yesterday's mail with posts from today. It did not move 
 the thread

Yes. New thread sorting is broken.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 is available for beta testers

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 31-03-2011 00:33, you wrote in mid:671640782.20110331003...@ipex.cz:
 yes, hints are the worst new thing in v5 :-(

Agreed.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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/extras
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Re: The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 is available for beta testers

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 31-03-2011 00:34, you wrote in mid:282069059.20110331003...@ipex.cz:
 View modes still not working.

 confirmed, I can not understand, how long they were not fixed, this is
 since alpha versions.

Exactly.

Of course, [*] Remove thread start/finish debug messages from the ex_log.txt
file (BETA issue) is much more valuable to the majority of users ;-)

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
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Re: The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 is available for beta testers

2011-03-31 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 31-03-2011 22:12, you wrote in mid:132875465.20110331231...@ritlabs.com:
 Thursday, March 31, 2011, 8:43:39 PM, you wrote:

 Of course, [*] Remove thread start/finish debug messages from the 
 ex_log.txt
 file (BETA issue) is much more valuable to the majority of users ;-)
 You are right, it is much more valuable, because those start/finish debug
 messages in ex_log.txt could grow the file to megabytes and more.

Well, yes, because people have HDDs sizes where they worry about 100 MB :-)

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
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Problems in 5.0.0.153 (some may be old)

2011-03-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

In my short usage I have noticed the following:

  * The IMAP setting on account level to fetch full messages does not seem to
work.

  * Assigned colour groups to messages are lost between sessions.

  * Limit expansion of first column to [1] levels does not work

  * View modes assigned to tab in the message list does not work (the view mode
is different when used as a tab in the message list)

  * New thread sorting on view modes does not work.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: Problems in 5.0.0.153 (some may be old)

2011-03-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart,

On 30-03-2011 21:00, you wrote in mid:1911533405.20110330140...@fastmail.fm:
   * The IMAP setting on account level to fetch full messages does not seem to
 work.

 Here it does seem to work for some folders, but not for others.

So far I think it only works for me when set in Mange IMAP folders, not at the
account level.

   * Assigned colour groups to messages are lost between sessions.

 Again in some accounts yes and in others no.

Will keep an eye out for this.

   * New thread sorting on view modes does not work.

 Confirmed, and in general View modes are unusable. They work in some spots, 
 but 
 not others.   They cannot be changed without losing more than you gain.

To me it's incomprehensible that fairly standard elements like this has not been
fixed by now.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Access violation + colour filters

2011-03-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

I installed the latest alpha and I see some nice things happening. Finally,
syncing works. However, I have got this access violation some time (while TB is
syncing):

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 00404E1C in module 'thebatalpha.exe'. Read of 
address FFDC.
---
OK   
---

Please note I have renamed the exe to run them in parallel.

Also, has anybody been able to get colour filters to work? I re-filtered all the
messages in my TB folder and none were coloured as they should.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: Access violation + colour filters

2011-03-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 28-03-2011 21:46, you wrote in mid:648865118.20110328214...@fjelsten.dk:
 Also, has anybody been able to get colour filters to work? I re-filtered all 
 the
 messages in my TB folder and none were coloured as they should.

My mistake. I checked the wrong type of filters. It works!

Now, I think I can use the alpha! Still have a problem with Limit expansion of
columns to [1] levels not working.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.153 RC3 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: QR-Codes - scope and limitations

2011-01-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 18-01-2011 18:30, you wrote in mid:552009884.20110118183...@ipex.cz:
 it is great feature to move Address Book contact to mobile phone, try it
 :-)

That might be but I think you should be able to right click on a URL and have
that generated. Often, I cannot even get the URL think to work.

Use with my Android phone.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 4.2.36.4 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: QR code generator does not work when using context menu on URL link

2011-01-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 18-01-2011 14:05, you wrote in mid:1784259311.20110118140...@ipex.cz:
 Hello,
 open message with some URL, click with right mouse button on URL link and
 check QR code group, all included entries are disabled.

 reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8361

Confirmed.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 4.2.36.4 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras
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Re: 5.0 showstoppers

2011-01-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart,

On 15-01-2011 14:39, you wrote in mid:15410022090.20110115073...@fastmail.fm:
 Mostly reported already, but:

 1) Sync does not work https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8278

 2) Filtering in IMAP does not work properly
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8123

 3) View Modes not working https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8191

These are my main three - and the reason why I cannot use the 5.x series.

Also if the View mode changed bug has not been ironed out, this need to be
fixed as well.

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 4.2.36.4 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Limit expansion of first column to [ ] levels is broken

2010-12-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

 Like the subject says (found in OptionsPreferences). It has been like this for
 many alphas/betas.

 Very annoying. I also could not send this message until I closed it (Keep saved
 message) and reopened it.

 Happy that the IMAP connection centre has been expanded. Will investigate more.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.119 BETA Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: Limit expansion of first column to [ ] levels is broken

2010-12-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 18-12-2010 11:00, you wrote in mid:115887977.20101218110...@fjelsten.dk:
  Like the subject says (found in OptionsPreferences). It has been like this 
 for
  many alphas/betas.

  Very annoying. I also could not send this message until I closed it (Keep 
 saved
  message) and reopened it.

  Happy that the IMAP connection centre has been expanded. Will investigate 
 more.

When I tried to view my message afterwards, I got the error below (a hundred
times - I even had problems exiting):

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 004467F9 in module 'thebatalpha.exe'. Read of 
address 3D3D515E.
---
OK   
---

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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Re: IMAP issues/status in 102

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 19-11-2010 11:29, you wrote in mid:979074829.20101119122...@ritlabs.com:
 Synchronize settings are now not taking into consideration, The Bat! just
 gets the headers until you open a message.

Do you have any time frame on fixing this?

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author Peter Fjelsten /author
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env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: IMAP issues/status in 102

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart,

On 16-11-2010 02:05, you wrote in
mid:blu0-smtp212a41af91c1ef79a353b92c9...@phx.gbl:
 Hello Peter,
   A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten typed on:
   Monday, November 15, 2010 at 21:12:04 GMT +0100

PF  Sync settings do not seem to work: Although I set full 
synchonization,
PF   messages aren't.

 I don't know if there is a bugtraq entry, but they are aware of it.

I don't believe there has been any mention about when this - basic IMAP
functionality - will be fixed. Max?

PF   Connection Centre does not give any meaningful information for IMAP.

 Acknowledged.

IMO the old version worked pretty well.

PF   OptionsPreferencesMessage List: Limit expansion to... does not 
work.

 I don't use this, but on my home computer I cannot get view modes to work at 
 all
 and with the same settings at work the view mode works .

PF   When I open Mange IMAP folders, new folders that I have not created 
come
PF   out of nowhere.

 I have not seen this.

Oooh, this may be related to the fact that I have recently set up my mailboxes
on my Android phone -maybe that e-mail program has created them.


PF   IMAP auto filtering apparently still does not work - at least 
looking at
PF   the (lack of) progress on this:
PF   https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8123.

 Yes this is my report and as it says re-filtering only sort of works 
 sometimes. I
 have been going back and forth in between versions to use filtering when I 
 need 
 it.

To me that makes it hard to use on a daily basis.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.102 ALPHA Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: 5.0.0.102

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stefan,

On 15-11-2010 09:17, you wrote in mid:223305977.20101115101...@thebat.net:
 [*] Save messages to IMAP server-based outbox doesn't block input anymore 
 (Beta issue)

PF But (auto-)saving an attachment still does?

 No, it doesn't - that change was made specifically to avoid blocking
 while (auto)saving to IMAP servers. Besides, saving into local folders
 now produces slightly shorter delays as well...

OK. It was just that Max on the alpha list at some stage said that this would
not be changed (making IMAP unusable for me) until after public release.

But since this message seems to indicate otherwise, back to alpha/beta testing
:-)

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.2.36.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate/extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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IMAP issues/status in 102

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello Bat Beta,

 I have the following issues which makes TB problematic for me at the moment (if
 anyone has reported these, please send a link to BT):

  Sync settings do not seem to work: Although I set full synchonization,
  messages aren't.

  Connection Centre does not give any meaningful information for IMAP.

  OptionsPreferencesMessage List: Limit expansion to... does not work.

  When I open Mange IMAP folders, new folders that I have not created come
  out of nowhere.

  IMAP auto filtering apparently still does not work - at least looking at
  the (lack of) progress on this:
  https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8123.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.102 ALPHA Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: IMAP issues/status in 102

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 15-11-2010 21:12, I wrote in mid:581004832.20101115211...@fjelsten.dk:
   IMAP auto filtering apparently still does not work - at least looking at
   the (lack of) progress on this:
   https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8123.

Nope it doesn't. Not even manual re-filtering (when doing so without downloading
message).

This is enough to go back to the 4.x series for me. Yes, I could use server side
filtering, but this cannot apply colour groups, etc.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.0.0.102 ALPHA Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS 
/extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: 5.0.0.102

2010-11-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 13-11-2010 08:21, you wrote in mid:972433149.20101113092...@ritlabs.com:
 [*] Save messages to IMAP server-based outbox doesn't block input anymore 
 (Beta issue)

But (auto-)saving an attachment still does?

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.2.36.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: 258 bugs fixed

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Alto,

On 22-08-2010 12:48, you wrote in
mid:959335567.20100822124...@treadstone79.de:
 TheBat's current behaviour is much more logical: If I delete
 something, I want it to vanish. If I want to compress a folder, I'll
 do so explicitly. And if I want to see deletion-marked messages again,
 then too I'll act in a special way (by calling up browse deleted.)

I'd prefer it to be (also) something you can set in a View Mode. Show deleted
messages: Yes/No (and then they're shown with strike through).


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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.2.36.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: Closed bug reports

2010-07-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 18-07-2010 07:12, you wrote in mid:329563028.20100718001...@ritlabs.com:
 I have noticed the same for some of my bugs. Normally a reporter should 
 verify
 that a problem has been fixed since you allow customers to fill in bug 
 reports
 directly.

 I have noticed that the last closed bug reported by you under the
 login Peter Fjelsten was https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2140
 and  it  was closed on 23 Nov 2008. If you have other login name, just
 let me know and I will reopen them.

I was mistaken. I was just following. I expect the reporter has verified the
fixes.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.33 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: Closed bug reports

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 16-07-2010 01:23, you wrote in mid:1162994217.20100715182...@ritlabs.com:
   I notice that many bugs are being marked as resolved, some of which I
 initially reported. I have not had a chance to confirm this as I do not have
 access to version 4.5. Will I get a chance to see it?

 Do you speak about
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6703
 and
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5048
 ?

I have noticed the same for some of my bugs. Normally a reporter should verify
that a problem has been fixed since you allow customers to fill in bug reports
directly.

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Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 14-06-2010 13:07, you wrote in mid:1756635861.20100614140...@ritlabs.com:
 Seeing how many years are between major versions, and full IMAP support
 having been promised for v2 (that was sometime in the last century), I think
 you will lose most of your customers unless you fix the old bugs and deliver
 on your promises before the first period expires.

 You have addressed the important issue. That's why we plan to allow
 the users who have purchased The Bat! key for version 4 since February
 7,  2008  (or  later)  to get updates of version 5 during about a year
 without payment.

I also think it's an important issue. I for one have wanted to pay for another
version without working IMAP (promised since version 2.x).

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Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Alto,

On 13-06-2010 23:30, you wrote in mid:87868903.20100613233...@treadstone79.de:
 With this proposed system, a user expects his bugs to be fixed
 inside his term of payment. Up until now, a year's time was about
 nothing for the developement of TheBat - see all the bug tracker
 entries that have been around since the turn of the century.

I actually think you may have a point here.

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Re: Did I miss the funeral?

2010-06-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Feli,

On 13-06-2010 10:58, you wrote in mid:851460283.20100613105...@gmx.net:
 I'm quite sure that TB is not the only mailclient that has a different
 method for displaying HTML than Outlook.

I work in a CMS consulting company.

We also code newsletters. All mail clients are different and all our developers
hate coding newsletters.

See how differently they interpret e.g. CSS here:
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/css/

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IMAP issue with attachments

2010-05-12 Thread Peter Fjelsten
TheBat-users,

Since I can see in Mantis that work has commenced on IMAP, I write to see if
others have this problem. I am not running the newest version as I refuse to
upgrade before IMAP improves. Remote Outbox.

I create a new mail and write some text. This is an HTML mail but I am pretty
sure it doesn't matter.

Add an attachment. After some time, I get the error below (when auto-save kicks
in):

---
Edit Mail Message - (recipient)
---

---
OK   
---

Try to save mail but I cannot (neither Save nor Save message as draft). I try to
close the mail window and then just say yes to keep existing copy and then I get
this (this messaging window was open):

---
Edit Mail Message - The Bat User List tb...@thebat.dutaint.com
---
Access violation at address 00BD9DE3 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 

---
OK   
---

Opened the original message again from the Outbox, wrote some more and then
got:

---
Edit Mail Message
---
Access violation at address 00BD9DE3 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 

---
OK   
---

IMAP + remote outbox + attachments = trouble here (I think this is fully
reproducible - I have seen this a hundred times).

If developers want a test account (I made one for 9Val at some time), just
contact me.

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Re: publishing the 4.2.12

2009-11-05 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 05-11-2009 20:24, you wrote in mid:167562542860264...@ritlabs.com:
 Our bugfixes will come to the next beta series.

Dare I ask?

IMAP?

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Re: publishing the 4.2.12

2009-11-05 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 05-11-2009 20:37, you wrote in mid:2711016871299036...@ritlabs.com:
IMAP?

 We don't know whether the new IMAP will be in the next release or in a 
 subsequent release.

When you say next release, do you mean 4.3.xx or 5.0?

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Re: IMAP-Redevelopment-Status?

2009-09-10 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Rick,

On 10-09-2009 04:33, you wrote in
mid:2210270254.20090909223...@gmail.com:
 We were told development should start quite some time ago but nothing has
 apparently happened.

 They put a reminder in postponed sending

Good one! :-)

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Re: IMAP-Redevelopment-Status?

2009-09-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Martin,

We were told development should start quite some time ago but nothing has
apparently happened.

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Re: MAPI, Exchange

2009-07-06 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili,

On 06-07-2009 20:05, you wrote in
mid:ad176b0d0907061105r378cc67csd9a269ae6f7b8...@mail.gmail.com:
 This was observed at some of my users as well.

In the version I am using there is no problem with MAPI.

(Just FYI)

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Re: Work on IMAP

2009-07-06 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Volker,

On 05-07-2009 22:36, you wrote in mid:164692388.20090705223...@ahrendt.net:
 [Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2009-07-05 · 22:19 h (CET)]

 Moin, Jens!

 When will you start working on IMAP?

 IIRC it is *mainly* Stef’s construction site and *not* Max’.

Well, it was the plural you.

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Re: Specifiying a language in date formatting

2009-07-05 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 05-07-2009 17:43, you wrote in mid:1578919754224164...@ritlabs.com:
 A new beta of The Bat! will support the following feature: Macros that accept
 date format as the first parameter now can also accept the language as the
 second parameter.

Nice.

When will you start working on IMAP?

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/extras
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Re: The Bat! release date

2009-05-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili,

On 28-05-2009 20:09, you wrote in
mid:ad176b0d0905281109p39e9abfbp82e9485a07f2b...@mail.gmail.com:
 Spend a month or two on fixing bugs only, and forget about new stuff.

+1

And then deliver the IMAP you promised a long time ago.

THEN you can start adding new stuff.

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Re: 4.1.11.17

2009-04-24 Thread Peter Fjelsten
mse,

On 24-04-2009 17:51, you wrote in mid:1271743253.20090424175...@gmx.net:
 A German-English dictionary (www.leo.org) suggests delayed dispatch
 as best translation for Verzögerter Versand.

As others have remarked.

Personally, it think a simpler term such as delayed sending may be
understandable to a larger number of foreign users as compared to delayed
dispatch which - I would expect - is the correct term in English.

Hold that thought. TB! already uses mail dispatcher in its UI.

Hence, delayed dispatch gets my vote.

:-)

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Re: 4.1.11.4 - Filters

2009-02-25 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Jens,

On 25-02-2009 10:34, you wrote in
mid:1482584674.20090225103...@gmx.de:
 If i would tick in/outgoing i need seperate Filter Actions for
 in/outgoing, because 'Receipient' would change to 'Sender'.

Other programs call this correspondent. Problem solved.

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/extras
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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-08 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Gleason,

On 07-02-2009 23:35, you wrote in mid:758413919.20090207173...@mm.st:
 Which suggests not negligence but inability to reproduce what you see,
 either by Rit or by many users, which would include myself.

Well, I have a lot of problems myself using Courier IMAP and Exchange IMAP.

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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-08 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vilius,

On 08-02-2009 16:43, you wrote in mid:002701c98a04$0c0fe3c0$242fab...@lt:
 Actually it was version 2.0 when IMAP was promised. As far as I remember it
 was a year 2002.

I am also quite sure it was for version 2.

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Re: IMAP getting error when trying to send message

2009-02-04 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Dwight,

On 04-02-2009 21:47, you wrote in mid:134617331.20090204144...@fastmail.fm:
 Got error message whenever I tried to send the message, and then when I tried
 to save the message or close the message, or exit TB! Had to use task mgr to
 close.

I have also received numerous Stream read error and could not export
message.

I also got this on composing your message:

---
Edit Mail Message - Dwight A Corrin on TB Beta tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
---
Access violation at address 00BD9DE3 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 

---
OK   
---

My favourite is this:

Compose a message and keep the composition window open. Compose a new message
and keep the window open. Now send the first one. In 30-50% of the time I get a
Do you want to delete the message (I think the prompt says) - and I have to
hit cancel in order for the second open message window not to disappear.

All this for IMAP with remote outbox.


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Re: Vista 64 issues

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 15-01-2009 23:24, you wrote in
mid:29439172922983027...@ritlabs.com:
 If somebody will be able to provide the instructions how to reproduce
 the problems, we will be glad to investigate.

Here at work (with OTFE) on Vista 32 I have the same problem with the
first account/connection centre.

In addition, I also sometimes get two entries on the task bar (one
without title).

To reproduce: Open TB. Change the settings. Close TB. Open TB again. :-)

And an extra IMAP error for you.

This has emerged recently on composing a message (remote outbox):

---
Edit Mail Message - Maxim Masiutin on TB Beta tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
---
Access violation at address 00BCB177 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 

---
OK   
---

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author Peter Fjelsten /author 
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/extras
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Vista 64 issues

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

I am not running the latest version of TB*, so could anybody verify that these
issues also exist in the newest version on Vista 64?:

  Open/closed state for the first account in the folder tree is not remembered
  between sessions.

  Placement of Connection centre and window divisions (including columns) is not
  remembered between sessions.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.33 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 /os

* Due to the failure to deliver proper IMAP



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Re: Vista 64 issues

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Spike,

On 15-01-2009 20:26, you wrote in mid:e1lnxru-00025g...@garm.runbox.com:
 I have run into MANY issues where settings do NOT get remembered under VISTA
 in either flavor 32/64. In most cases, you have to set the program to run as
 administrator in the properties dialog box in order to overcome this issue.

I have turned odd UAC, so I should be an administrator for real. :-)

 Sometimes even that doesn't work!

Well, it doesn't here.

In addition the /Nologo switch is not working either.

 BTW, I have learned to hate VISTA!

Actually, I don't hate it. So far only TB! (and some drivers) is acting up.

 I hope this formats properly, as I am confined to webmail at present due to
 legal issues which I won't go into! ;-(

Doesn't sound too nice :-(

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Re: the macro under Windows 7

2009-01-12 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vilius,

On 12-01-2009 19:42, you wrote in mid:001501c974e5$8f7f7ec0$ae7e7c...@lt:
 Can we have IMAP fixes now instead of bugfixes for even unreleased OS? Thanks.

(What he said!)

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Re: Editing the Subject Line

2009-01-08 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Carsten,

On 08-01-2009 17:46, you wrote in mid:703097981.20090108174...@gmail.com:
 It should be easy to implement and would finally be something very useful and
 a unique advantage of The Bat, as most other Mailers can't do it.

Some other can. I seem to remember Eudora being able.

However, already there are a (large) number of unique advantages of TB! (Alas,
proper IMAP is not one of the but hopefully it will come very soon).

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Re: msg base destroyed on update to 4.1

2009-01-04 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Roelof,

On 05-01-2009 00:22, you wrote in
mid:1942797350.20090105002...@otten.tv:
 Odd question, that would be the last 4.0 beta: 4.0.39.38

I am running a beta with the new index: 4.0.39.39 (according to the
About box).

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Re: Including an image in HTML templates

2008-12-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 22-12-2008 12:41, you wrote in
mid:223287495.20081222124...@rancho-k.com:
 Is this a known bug or limitation, or am I doing something wrong?

I have found exactly the same as well.

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Re: SOLVED!!

2008-12-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 22-12-2008 13:35, you wrote in
mid:722564377.20081222133...@rancho-k.com:
 It IS a bug and the problem is the length of the path to the inserted
 image. I was trying to insert the JPG from 'My images' and the actual 
 path to it is:

I tried from a path like:

S:\a_FlytPC\bleauLogo.gif

- didn't work: No logo in preview and Error file image loading when
invoking the QT.

I even tried changing the path to c:\logo.gif

Same errors, so I cannot confirm.

(Please note that I am running an earlier beta as I refuse to upgrade
until the long promised IMAP support is there)

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Re: SOLVED!!

2008-12-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 22-12-2008 14:50, you wrote in
mid:1229348000.20081222145...@rancho-k.com:
 - didn't work: No logo in preview and Error file image loading when
 invoking the QT.

 I got it working from folder templates, not yet from QTs. I will test 
 more later.

OK. Maybe I will try that but all my templates are QTs called from
accounts/contact groups.

In the test case discussed here it was invoked by handlectrlspace

 (Please note that I am running an earlier beta as I refuse to upgrade
 until the long promised IMAP support is there)

 That may make a different too.

Yes.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.39 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env.
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Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 16-12-2008 21:08, you wrote in mid:46439853.20081216210...@ipex.cz:
  Something resembling a proper IMAP implementation? In other words, a
  promise that has been made and broken, several times?

 developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
 release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay
 tuned.

Well, why did they not do that before?

IMAP has been broken for years and I have upgraded twice on the promise
of better IMAP.

These promises have never been made good.

There are still basic errors in IMAP and I am not paying for another
version until these are fixed.

I have lost my faith with RitLabs' ability to deliver on their
promises.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.39 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env.
os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 /os  




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Re: 4.0.39.36

2008-12-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim,

On 08-12-2008 23:33, you wrote in
 [+] HTML templates in the address book
 [-] HTML templates in Address Group Editor

(For all HTML templates:)

Adding an image does not work. Any images are not included when the
template is called.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.33 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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Re: multiple imap

2008-10-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Gleason,

On 30-10-2008 15:37, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 If the 4 accounts have more than 10 connections between them, the
 program is able to connect to only one account when the program
 starts, TB decides the other three servers have terminated the
 connection, and the associated tasks disappear from the Connection
 Center.

Sometimes a host (provided that you have all the accounts with the same
host) will limit the number of IMAP connections from one IP at any
given time.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.34 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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Re: multiple imap

2008-10-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Gleason,

On 30-10-2008 22:15, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sometimes a host (provided that you have all the accounts with the same
 host) will limit the number of IMAP connections from one IP at any
 given time.

 No, they are 4 different hosts.

In that case: No idea.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.34 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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Re: Cosmetic : No Preview tab is selected, when is HTML/TEXT message opened

2008-10-06 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 06-10-2008 22:30, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Anybody can confirm?

I do.

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author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.34 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: IMAP

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili,

On 01-07-2008 15:35, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It is like washing a car while you have a
 broken engine... Yes, it will be shinier, but should not we repair the
 engine first???

Very good analogy.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.20.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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IMAP: issues with messages with attachments

2008-05-21 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

  In the last couple of releases/betas, if I go back to a message
  already received once

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author Peter Fjelsten /author 
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Re: IMAP: issues with messages with attachments

2008-05-21 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 23-04-2008 14:38, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello beta testers. 

Isn't it nice that TB IMAP suddenly decides to send a message that was
sitting in the outbox as a draft? ;-)

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.20.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Carsten,

On 13-05-2008 17:12, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It's really frustrating seeing minor bugs being solved or new features
 being implemented while facing these serious issues for every new
 mail.

Agreed.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.20.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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IMAP (Exchange): issues with messages with attachments

2008-04-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. 

  In the last couple of releases/betas, if I go back to a message
  already received once by selecting and fetching it (I have set up sync
  to do headers and text), suddenly the message it empty with one
  attachment Part.att ~0bytes. It looks normal in the list (correct
  size, etc).

  Reloading the message fixes it.

  This is a big problem.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.20.4 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os



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Re: Problem displaying a mail

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili,

On 02-04-2008 17:55, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Same here. I attached what I see on the HTML tab.

Me too.

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: The attached files

2008-03-27 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Roelof,

On 26-03-2008 21:50, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Could you explain more clearly what you mean? I've tried to create a
 message with multiple attachments, but I can't find anything out of
 the ordinary.

Each and every time I add an attachment when composing a mail (IMAP,
remote mailbox) - I get Stream read error. I need to close the message
and start over (I cannot even save the message).

Now, that is what I call an annoying bug.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env.
os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os  




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Re: Socket errors in 4.x series

2008-03-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 08-03-2008 11:47, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 please add it to BT with exceptions log

I cannot be bothered to do this. I have not had any major success with
this in the past :-(

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: Socket errors in 4.x series

2008-03-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Dwight,

On 09-03-2008 16:13, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I cannot be bothered to do this.

 so what is the point of beta testing?

I have written the bugs here, haven't I?

I don't want to do it twice.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: Socket errors in 4.x series

2008-03-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 09-03-2008 17:30, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I have asked You for exception log, I did not found any message from You
 about sockets problem and no exception log.

I don't know which exceptions log to which you are referring?

I don't have full logging enabled - is this to what you're referring?

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author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: Socket errors in 4.x series

2008-03-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 09-03-2008 17:49, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 no, check MAIL directory, if You have thebat_Exceptions.log file there. if
 yes, send me it, listserver will probably remove it.

The latest entry I have in that log is for v3.81.04 - and I know I have
had numerous exceptions since that version.

The log was over 20K lines - maybe there is a limit to its size?

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: Socket errors in 4.x series

2008-03-09 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marek,

On 09-03-2008 20:33, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The latest entry I have in that log is for v3.81.04 - and I know I have
 had numerous exceptions since that version.

 You are probably talking about ex_log.txt, this is different one, I have
 asked about thebat_Exceptions.log in same directory. If You have it,
 please send me it.

My ex_log.txt has the newest entries (it's 4 MB), it seems.

Except.log only went to v3.81.04

,- [  ]
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 22:27:40 IMAP_Cmp:3 EInvalidPointer Invalid 
pointer operation
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 23:00:14 IMAP_Cmp:3 EInvalidPointer Invalid 
pointer operation
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 23:00:20 IMAP_Cmp:3 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00B05D6F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 23:00:24 IMAP_Cmp:3 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00B05D6F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 23:00:24 IMAP_Cmp:3 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00B05D6F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 23:00:24 IMAP_Cmp:3 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00B05D6F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 29-02-2008 23:00:24 IMAP_Cmp:3 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00B05D6F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 21:15:22 MsgCtl:5 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00AEFAD5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 21:15:29 MsgCtl:5 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00AEFAD5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 21:15:37 MsgCtl:5 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 00AEFAD5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 21:20:37 MsgCtl:5 EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 007817AC in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 00EC
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 22:04:56 Records:User.Destroy [] 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00B84CAC in module 'thebat.exe'. 
Read of address 0A90
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 22:04:56 Records:User.Destroy [Dktechgear 
Info IMAP] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00B84CAC in module 
'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0A90
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 22:04:56 Records:FolderDB.Free 
EInvalidPointer Invalid pointer operation
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 22:04:56 Records:User.Destroy [Web IMAP] 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00B84CAC in module 'thebat.exe'. 
Read of address 0A90
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 22:04:56 Records:FolderDB.Free 
EInvalidPointer Invalid pointer operation
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 06-03-2008 22:04:56 Records:User.Destroy [7 Lister] 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00B84CAC in module 'thebat.exe'. 
Read of address 0A90
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 07-03-2008 23:11:02 VFolders:Can't notify VFs, last 
error: 1816
| v4.0.14 DESKTOP/Peter 07-03-2008 23:11:04 VFolders:Can't notify VFs, last 
error: 1816
`-

Before these lines, about a million of VFolders:Can't notify VFs, last
error: 1816 - and also a lot after the last line above of the same
type.

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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