Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)
Hello, 20 Dec 2001, 3:45:29 AM, Peter Gannushkin wrote: PG 2. Every now and then TB doesn't show new mail in Inbox. I need to PG click on the folder to make Inbox show it. Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized? -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)
Hello Peter, 20 Dec 2001, 10:45:29, you wrote: PG 1. TB cannot not start in minimized mode now with Minimize to system PG tray option. The icon appears in the tray but TB doesn't work. E.g. it PG doesn't show unread mail and it doesn't start Connection Center. I PG need to click tray icon to make it work. This one is annoying indeed. Actually this is I think the same bug as I applied on December 1 (while using Beta 14). The bug is still there (in beta 18). Again my bug-description (to check if this is the same bug we're talking about): The bug description: Miscellaneous problems (properly related) with starting The Bat directly in minimised mode. Steps to reproduce the bug: With this new beta the following happens (my last beta was 10): - When I startup Windows I always start the Bat automatically (via programs/startup). I always start it minimised. My settings are set to only display systemtray icon (so not on the taskbar). - I have a shortcut to check all mail (ctrl+up-arrowkey). When i use this shortcut (after the Bat has loaded and sits in the systemtray) nothing happens. The Bat does not respond (shows no connection centre). - When i click on the Bat icon in the system tray, the Bat comes and starts to load the mailfolders (counting the mails in it like it always does). Before this beta the mailfolders where counted and loaded while minimised, so bringing up the Bat showed the bat ready for use. When clicking on the Bat systemtray icon, the Bat also does not come up maximised like it was before. Closing the Bat while maximised and reproducing above steps still shows the Bat still *not* maximised. - When using my check-all-mail shortcut now, after the Bat has come up and has made itself ready for use, the connections centre comes up, but the Bat mainwindow shows itself also in the taskbar (the Bat is minimised), so now I have two items in the taskbar related to the Bat (CC and the Bat mainwindow). When finishing the mailcheck, minimising The Bat shows it again in the systemtray (like it should be). While checking mail now for the second time everything looks ok. -- Cheers, Jeroen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 ( Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Boris, On 21 December 2001 at 10:47:11 [GMT-0600] (which was 16:47 where I live) Boris Golberg wrote to Peter Gannushkin and made these points: PG 2. Every now and then TB doesn't show new mail in Inbox. I need PG to click on the folder to make Inbox show it. BG Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized? Possibly the case. I start TB minimised from system Startup and I sometimes see this problem. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/18-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 roXçtå# -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt (Build 06) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBPCNvFTnkJKuSnc2gEQJzqQCcCzuNzpMynk9sNWQa0qaIGZxmOasAoNlt 5PVVEL+stUImovdIwfQupIxp =pYTt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)
Hello Marck, Similar happens to me. The Bat! shows 3 new messages in the inbox but when I click on the inbox, the message count jumps to 8 and there are actually 8 new ones. (of course numbers are examples and not actual number of messages). This happens a lot, but can't pin down any particular thing that causes it. I do not start TB minimized, so that is not the problem. -- Best regards, The Bat! Version: 1.54 Beta/18 Win 2K Pro 2195.5 Rudy Willismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, at 17:19:17 [GMT +] (which was 10:19 AM where I live) you wrote: BG Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized? -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
1.54 Beta/17
Hi All, New Beta is available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html The direct download URL is http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b17.rar Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for folders plus a couple of issues is solved... We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please do not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs in the release version - I have a strong suspicion we will be making post-releases soon :-) I am sorry about such a mess, but there were some difficulties in the past several months making it tough to develop the program intensively. Most of them were connected with health issues, but I hope the life will get better in the next year :-) Please report hot bugs in reply to this message and hopefully they'll get fixed in the release. By hot I mean urgent and major ones. Thank you for your help and understanding! -- Regards, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Help! I'm modeming... and I can't hang up!!! -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:43:44 +0100, Jacek Wojaczynski [JW] wrote these comments: ... JW PS. Still hope that Christmas Edition won't be totally fu@#$% up... moderator Oops!! Profanity, expressed or implied isn't allowed on this list. Please refrain from using it guys. Thanks. :-) /moderator - -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/17 WinXP Home PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjwhS28ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IQlwCgqDKYhsxSLzZ3rWYeU9XyhETo g/gAnjQtx84J/ilFUn/BwVXUmL0qzvzF =Pefd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
Hello David. At 6:30 PM on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject '1.54 Beta/17': Stefan Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for Stefan folders [...] JR How do I get to this option? David I think: 'Folder | Check for viruses'. But it's blanked on my system David because the plugin isn't working. A, yes. That's why I missed it. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/17/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:16:47 +0200GMT (20/12/2001, 01:16 +0800GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for folders plus ST a couple of issues is solved... This is your changelog? ST We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please do ST not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs in the ST release version Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can with no good conscience recommend a buggy program. It is against all I stand for (which includes quality in software products). ST - I have a strong suspicion we will be making ST post-releases soon :-) I am sorry about such a mess, but there were ST some difficulties in the past several months making it tough to ST develop the program intensively. Most of them were connected with ST health issues, but I hope the life will get better in the next year ST :-) I wish you all good health. If the release of a new version is delayed because of poor health, everybody will understand this, and I will be the first one to defend you, should anybody critisise the delay. If a buggy version is released just to keep a deadline, you will lose customer confidence. Your competitors are not sleeping either, and they will have a field day. Don't do that. ST Thank you for your help and understanding! Don't take this the wrong way, but my help in this case is in warning you against the release of a product with known bugs. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: 1.54 Beta/17
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2001-12-19 at 22:24:11 Jody Watts wrote: JW The *** MOST ANNOYING *** problem (to me) is the pause or system JW hang after checking mail. It last about 3 seconds, but it has been JW around since at least Beta 13 or 14. I almost never have this problem (using Win2k SP2). The only time I see it, is if I have a (low priority) task in the background which takes up almost all CPU time, such as compressing a DivX, and the mail server is responding very slowly at the same time. It seems as if The Bat is then starved for CPU, and responds quite badly to events (but it doesn't hang up totally, however). I'm not sure how The Bat processes WinSock events, but if it is via the (old-fashioned) system of processing windows messages in the main WindowProc, then this could be the problem. However, switching to a fully asynchronous WinSock event model is not an easy task... Not to mention incompatible with older versions of Windows. Do other people with the pause problem have CPU-consuming tasks running in the background? Cheers, - -- Dimitry Andric [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dim/dim.asc Fingerprint: 7AB462D2CE35FC6D42394FCDB05EA30A2E2096A3 Lbh ner abj va ivbyngvba bs gur QZPN -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/stoa_cover.htm iQA/AwUBPCFTf7BeowouIJajEQIaDQCg0yh0jZr2UPfeEfBvrH35y9ZarH8An2UD YauCDb48KJeyo2nJDBq1aDz8 =0vk+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
On 19 Dec 2001, 9:56:56 PM, Dimitry Andric wrote: Do other people with the pause problem have CPU-consuming tasks running in the background? that is at least when I notice it -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
On 19 Dec 2001, 9:49:13 PM, Thomas F wrote: ST We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please ST do not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs ST in the release version Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can with no good conscience recommend a buggy program. I guess I can't even imagine what is about to happen. Are we talking about releasing a version 1.54? If this is true it's crazy. 1.54 is not yet ready for prime time! Are you talking about releasing this as 2.0? If that is true, TheBat! is about to self destruct. The 1.54 Beta has great promise. I see lots of good things starting to fall into place. BUT it still has too many incomplete additions and rough edges. Common folders are going to be good, but right now they are not there yet. The same is true of lots of things happening here. People who don't like betas until they are pretty solid would do well to move to 1.54 by now. People who resist all betas will be very unhappy with 1.54, because it will be clear that it is really just a beta not a perfected thing. Don't do it. Please. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
