Re: Doesn't stop flapping - Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Max,

I used Reply to all for this message. My name was on the TO field,
yours in the CC, both with the TBBETA address. I ctrl-X'ed your name
(with the TBBETA address) from the CC field and crtl-V'ed into the TO
field, it showed your name with the TBBETA address as desired. The
moment I click into the body, the TO field is changed as above. That
happened three times in in row.

Can anybody confirm? I've never seen this odd behaviour before.

On Mon, 26 May 2008 21:31:21 +0700 GMT (26/05/2008, 21:31 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF Hello Maxim,

TF On Sat, 17 May 2008 00:14:31 +0300 GMT (17/05/2008, 04:14 +0700 GMT),
TF Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 4.0.24.11 is available at

TF I just created a new account. The taskbar icon started flapping when
TF the test mail was sent to the Outbox. That's not right. The flapping
TF indicates new unread messages that have arrived.

TF Flapping stopped when the message was sent.

TF It started again when the BCC copy was received. Normal.

TF But the flapping didn't stop when the mail was read! Closing and
TF reopening TB! helped.

TF This only happens with the newly-created account under beta 11, not
TF with the old and established accounts.

Voyager 4.0.18.4 also has a flapping problem with a new account. I
created the account and downloaded the messages that had already
arrived and marked all as read. The flapping (well, compass moving)
didn't stop. Closing and reopening Voyager helped.

I think the flapping code has a problem with newly created accounts.

TF Comfirmations?

Anybody, please create a new account with a free provider, send some
messages to it, create the account in TB! and Voyager, download and
mark the messages as read, or put a message in the Outbox and see what
happens when it gets send.

If I get a confirmation, I will create a bug report. It's not that
serious, as the behaviour normalises once TB! is closed and reopened,
but still.

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Re: Doesn't stop flapping - Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-31 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Thomas,

@1-Jun-2008, 00:17 +0700 (31-May 18:17 here) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas:

... snip
TF field, it showed your name with the TBBETA address as desired. The
TF moment I click into the body, the TO field is changed as above. That
TF happened three times in in row.

TF Can anybody confirm? I've never seen this odd behaviour before.

I will confirm but fully describe it as follows:

When you click into the *unchanged* body of a message, the source
template is re-evaluated. If that template affects any of the address
fields, these are re-evaluated too.

If you edit the body (even slightly) before making any changes to the
addressing, any address changes will stick.

It is by design, I believe, but the design does feel uncomfortable to me.

... snip

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Weird recipeint behaviour (was: Doesn't stop flapping - Re: 4.0.24.11)

2008-05-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck,

On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:32:03 +0100 GMT (01/06/2008, 00:32 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

TF Can anybody confirm? I've never seen this odd behaviour before.

MDP I will confirm but fully describe it as follows:

MDP When you click into the *unchanged* body of a message, the source
MDP template is re-evaluated. If that template affects any of the address
MDP fields, these are re-evaluated too.

Confirmed.

MDP If you edit the body (even slightly) before making any changes to the
MDP addressing, any address changes will stick.

Confirmed.

MDP It is by design, I believe, but the design does feel uncomfortable to me.

Confirmed.

Since it is apparently by design, would the request to change have to
be a wishhlist entry rather than a bug report? Wishlist entries take
longer to get attention. Or should we wait for Ritlabs to confirm
whether this is a bug or WAD?

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AV in The Bat! 4.0.24.11

2008-05-19 Thread Ian Pollard
I have just noticed that when one of my accounts does its regular check for new
mail that it is occasionally throwing up the following message:
FETCH - Access violation at address 006C4663 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of
address . Anyone else noticed this one. It only happens on a few odd
occasions and only on this one account that is with thebat.net

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Re: AV in The Bat! 4.0.24.11

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/19/2008  11:25 AM

Hi Ian,

On 5/19/2008 Ian Pollard wrote:

IP I have just noticed that when one of my accounts does its regular check for 
new
IP mail that it is occasionally throwing up the following message:
IP FETCH - Access violation at address 006C4663 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of
IP address . Anyone else noticed this one. It only happens on a few odd
IP occasions and only on this one account that is with thebat.net

IP Ian


IP 
IP  Current beta is 4.0.24.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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It has happened to me on occasion and I blame it on gmail.

BTW, you need a signature delimiter[- --].

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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-19 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, May 16, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 [-] text parts automatically generated from HTML parts now converted using 
 UNICODE

sorry, but not fully, in TEXT part all national chars dissappeared.

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Re: AV in The Bat! 4.0.24.11

2008-05-19 Thread Ian Pollard
Paul Van Noord [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 5/19/2008  11:25 AM
 
 Hi Ian,
 
SNIP
 
 It has happened to me on occasion and I blame it on gmail.
 
 BTW, you need a signature delimiter[- --].
 
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Paul
   Thank you, I have now realised that it always one of my accounts set up with
thebat.net. I am now aware of it and I will keep checking.
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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, May 16, 2008, 4:14:31 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM What's new in 4.0.24.11 since 4.0.24.10:
MM [!] The new Quick Template editor is now complete

This is a wonderful improvement. Don't you think the QT editor that
you can call up from Address Book should reflect these changes? It would
be more consistent, I think.

Jon

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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-17 Thread NetVicious
viernes, 16 may 2008 at 23:14, it seems you wrote:

 The Bat! 4.0.24.11 is available at

I  got  some  minutes  ago this AV when I change the message folder. I
need to close the manual on normal way.

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The Bat!
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Access violation at address 008AF71F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0004.
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Aceptar   
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4.0.24.11

2008-05-16 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 4.0.24.11 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402411.rar

What's new in 4.0.24.11 since 4.0.24.10:
[!] The new Quick Template editor is now complete
[-] text parts automatically generated from HTML parts now converted using 
UNICODE





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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-16 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sat, 17 May 2008, at 00:14:31 [GMT +0300] (which was 23:14 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 4.0.24.11 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402411.rar

 What's new in 4.0.24.11 since 4.0.24.10:
 [!] The new Quick Template editor is now complete
 [-] text parts automatically generated from HTML parts now converted using 
 UNICODE

Up and running!

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CSAPI  Hunspell spellchecker English  Dutch
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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-16 Thread Jens Franik

am Freitag, 16. Mai 2008 um 23:14 schrieb Maxim Masiutin:

 The Bat! 4.0.24.11 is available

up+running

 What's new in 4.0.24.11 since 4.0.24.10:
 [!] The new Quick Template editor is now complete

If You could vote for it, the feature to copy/move Templates is really
missing...

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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-16 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2008-05-16 · 23:58 h (CET)]

Moin, Jens!

 What's new in 4.0.24.11 since 4.0.24.10:
 [!] The new Quick Template editor is now complete

 If You could vote for it, the feature to copy/move Templates is really
 missing...

+1

Cheers!
VA

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Re: 4.0.24.11

2008-05-16 Thread Art
Hi, 

On 5/16/2008, 4:14 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [!] The new Quick Template editor is now complete

One thing I've noticed is that Utility is spelled Utiltity in the new QT 
Editor..

I think that's an oops; albeit a small one.

Art

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