Re: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Stefan,

On Friday, March 22, 2002 at 12:16:14 PM you wrote in
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

MG>> Create an account on fastmail.fm and see if you get to see any other
MG>> folder than INBOX.

ST> Thank you for pointing to there. It helped me to figure out what is
ST> wrong sub-folders of the INBOX folder were not listed at all. It was a
ST> very old bug in the IMAP engine and it has been fixed now.

Good to read :-)
So I don't need to set up an IMAPD at home and send you network captures to
prove the 'INBOX\Trash' folder was sent by IMAPD but wasn't recognized by
The Bat! :-)
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Re: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?

2002-03-22 Thread Graham Foster

Hello Markus / Stefan


>> Here everything shows up fine...

> I know this might be heresy, but did you try it with a freshly installed
> beta or RC?
OK - I've just installed everything from scratch on a new PC, starting
at 1.53d release version, and adding every RAR over the top.. and
testing. Here are my comments

a) The GUI is confusing in that "Subscribed only" checkbox defaults to
OFF, when it should default to ON - as that is what is displayed then
going into the folder view initially

b) When pressing Reset Mask (Cntrl M), it **takes some time** to
actually do a retrieve the folder list. (We have a couple of thousand
IMAP folders on Exchange, and even on a 100Mb LAN it takes a few
seconds to refresh). During this time, the GUI is live - but there is
no "BUSY" indicator, therefore buttons (like Subscribed only) continue
to work and appear to give odd results. If you wait.. (without
clicking madly) the folder list will be retrieved. It would be good if
the GUI set the busy status whilst doing this folder query.

c) When selecting Reset Mask, you get a "Mailbox" dropdown which
   1) Doesn't reflect the currently highlighted mailbox, and is
   therefore counter intuitive (it is a list of all folders)
   2) Although you CAN clear the mailbox mask by over-typing, there is
   no indication that you need to. Better would be to add a button to
   clear this field, and convert the dropdown into an uneditable
   picklist. It would make more sense this way.
   3) Re-naming the mask to be "Subfolder mask" would be clearer too.
   

In conclusion.. Stefan is right. Functionally there is no difference
between ANY of the versions, although I was confused by the problems
with the "slow" rate of screen refresh on the IMAP folder view. If you
give the UI time, it does work correctly, and the currently release
candidate does behave identically to 1.53d


regards,
 Graham  
Using The Bat! 1.60 RC/2
under Windows NT 4.0 
(Build 1381, Service Pack 6)



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Re: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?

2002-03-22 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Stefan Tanurkov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> Did you cleared out the "Mailbox" field when you reset the mask?

> Here everything shows up fine...

I know this might be heresy, but did you try it with a freshly installed
beta or RC? OTOH could it be that somewhere during the beta cycle some
settings were messed up and now they won't work even if the 'engine' would
allow it?

Create an account on fastmail.fm and see if you get to see any other
folder than INBOX.

I really tried everything I could think of mask-wise. I was even able to
create new folders through the dispatcher, still the Bat won't see them.

Regards,

Markus
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Using The Bat! 1.54 RC/1 under Windows NT 4.0
Build 1381 Service Pack 6 


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Re: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?

2002-03-22 Thread Graham Foster

Hello Stefan

> You should reset mask - there is such a command in the menu when you
> click the Action button. By default, only the folders you are
> subscribed to are shown.
Nice try Stefan.. I ventured into the IMAP folders again yesterday
after prompting on this thread. Something is broken. I tried reset
mask on multiple occasions, followed by refresh.. and I only got a
full folder listing *once*. When I tried to reproduce it again.. I
even lost the inbox. When I closed the form however TB! quietly forgot
all my changes are restored the 2 IMAP folders I've had in place since
1.54 (early beta).. Inbox & Sent Folders. It completely forgot my
changes.

> What do you mean by all OK?  This part has not been changed for years,
> so I do not understand how it comes that the previous release shows
> something different. All in all, everything works as expected here and
> I see no difference from the 1.53 version.
Perhaps this is true. However something isn't right. I'll sent you a
load of image offline to show the point.
To "fix" the problem, you have to reset the mask, close the entire
"view messages on server" interaction, go BACK into this interaction,
toggle subscribed only - THEN the other folders re-appeared.

However if you close the interaction and go back in again - they have
gone ;-)

Basically - there is a problem. The GUI never was that intuitive.. it
plain doesn't work now.

  
regards,
 Graham  
Using The Bat! 1.60 RC/2
under Windows NT 4.0 
(Build 1381, Service Pack 6)



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Re: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?

2002-03-19 Thread Graham Foster

Hello Markus


  How is the IMAP any worse than it has been up until now?
regards,
 Graham  
Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/50
under Windows NT 4.0 
(Build 1381, Service Pack 6)



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