Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Thomas On Sunday, March 25, 2007 you wrote: Hello Vili, Vili wrote: V Either way, it is NOT an embarassment. OK, so we are discussing semantics. This is more important than semantics! :-) Yes it is an embarrasment! Turd isn the toilet are one thing but now VIli has BUGS? Really ought to flush once in a while. Same goes for the registry :)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.6 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Reply to message sent 03/23/2007, @ 17:07:27 (11:07 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Marek, when was installation finished, system reported error in thebat.exe, error message attached. When I started thebat.exe manually after this, it started normally. I had the exact same experience here. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.98.6] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Reply to message sent 03/23/2007, @ 23:38:23 (5:38 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Zygmunt, Another problem is lack of Update section in Preferences (see attached picture). As a consequence, the remain sections are shifted and reference wrong settings. Confirmed as not fixed. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.98.6] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Vili On Sunday, March 25, 2007 you wrote: Hello Rick, A bug yes, and embarrassment YES. It is the equivalent of coming to visit and not flushing the toilet :)) You are weird, man :) It is a totally different situation. While the shit in the toalet disturbs you, 2 extra reg key amongst ten thousands more... I dont think so. Shit in the toilet doesn't disturb me. Extra registry keys don't disturb me. But like turds they should be flushed away. :)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.6 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Vili, On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:42:04 +0200 GMT (25/03/2007, 22:42 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Either way, it is NOT an embarassment. OK, so we are discussing semantics. Call it a bug if you want, because it doesn't work as expected. I would expect Voyager to leave no traces. V We completely agree on this. This is more important than semantics! :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. They recently conducted a marijuana taste test. Nobody seems to be able to remember the results. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Vili On Saturday, March 24, 2007 you wrote: Hello Thomas, a pass anyway. I will try the first version that doesn't write to the registry. Voyager is to be used on other people's computers and it is rather embarrassing that it leaves its marks there. 1. How do they now about it? Check their registry all the time? 2. Does that harm them? I would call it a bug, not an embarassment. A bug yes, and embarrassment YES. It is the equivalent of coming to visit and not flushing the toilet :)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.6 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Paul, On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:00:02 -0500 GMT (25/03/2007, 02:00 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: PVN However, it shouldn't be there but it certainly is not embarrassing. PVN Embarrassment is an unpleasant emotional state experienced upon having PVN a socially or professionally unacceptable act or condition witnessed PVN by or revealed to others. Usually some amount of loss of honor or PVN dignity is involved. I'm not sure whether we are veering into semantics or philosophy, but I would consider it professionally unacceptable in a way to leave one's marks in other people's registry, regardless of whether they find out or not. Can I use your computer? I won't change anything, my email program is completely on this USB stick. And then I do change something in the registry. What's embarrassing is that I broke my word. Philosophy of ethics doesn't require them to notice it, so I disagree with the definition above in this respect. Call it a bug if you want, because it doesn't work as expected. I would expect Voyager to leave no traces. -- Cheers, Thomas. If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Paul On Saturday, March 24, 2007 you wrote: 3/24/2007 1:52 PM Hi Rick, On 3/24/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: Most folks can't even find this bathroom let alone the toilet. I doubt they will recognize the contents. lol -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.6 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Paul, On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:50:38 -0500 GMT (25/03/2007, 02:50 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: TF would expect Voyager to leave no traces. PVN Me too. I think there is a bugreport in the BT somewhere. Can you locate it? I would like to add a comment. -- Cheers, Thomas. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hi Thomas, on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:34:56 +0700GMT, you wrote: TF would expect Voyager to leave no traces. PVN Me too. TF I think there is a bugreport in the BT somewhere. Can you locate it? I TF would like to add a comment. It's here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.98.1 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Peter, On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:42:52 +0100 GMT (25/03/2007, 03:42 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: TF I think there is a bugreport in the BT somewhere. Can you locate it? I TF would like to add a comment. PM It's here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hi Maxim, On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:46:16 +0200, you [Maxim Masiutin] wrote: }Here is the list of Changes since 3.80.04 released 03 May 2006: Did you really have to tell us that you re-wrote the whole thing! ;) -- Bill Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello all, Friday, March 23, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please try Voyager 3.98.6 from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-98-06.exe when was installation finished, system reported error in thebat.exe, error message attached. When I started thebat.exe manually after this, it started normally. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM attachment: voyager.jpg Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Unable to activate token (was: Re: Voyager 3.98.6)
Hello all, Friday, March 23, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please try Voyager 3.98.6 from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-98-06.exe I am unable to activate this token. I have filled Registration Block, hit Fetch key, got key from browser and entered it into Activation utility. After this, new dialog with text This activation key appears with no problem description. screenshot is here: http://www.thebat.cz/files/voyager_activation_problem.jpg -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to activate token (was: Re: Voyager 3.98.6)
Hello Marek, Could you please try Voyager 3.98.6 from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-98-06.exe I am unable to activate this token. I have filled Registration Block, hit Fetch key, got key from browser and entered it into Activation utility. After this, new dialog with text This activation key appears with no problem description. screenshot is here: http://www.thebat.cz/files/voyager_activation_problem.jpg It puts the serial into that label... Arent you depleted your all activation? -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to activate token (was: Re: Voyager 3.98.6)
Hello all, Friday, March 23, 2007, Vili wrote: http://www.thebat.cz/files/voyager_activation_problem.jpg It puts the serial into that label... Arent you depleted your all activation? I have did everything as allways, as I think, this must be a bug. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hi Maxim, on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:46:16 +0200GMT (23.03.07, 16:46 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MM Could you please try Voyager 3.98.6 from MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-98-06.exe Thanks, I did. I had an error message after installation similar to the one Marek mentioned, but after that Voyager starts and runs quite fine. MM [-] Windows 9x compatibility issues. Yes indeed. Even the ugly extra menu bar at the top is gone now! :) (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6136) But Voyager *still* writes to the registry regardless of the OS. :-( (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.98.6 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows 98, v.4.10,Build Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Friday, March 23, 2007 Sorry dude, my v.3 key block retrieved a key to activate the above version of Voyager but got an error message for my trouble. Is this version good with FAT32? TB v.3.98.4 stay-at-home works good. Voyager goes on the USB stick running Win98SE with all updates excepting KB891711 (removed) on PII 300MHz 302MB RAM Clamwin antivirus no firewall -- C.K. GnuPG Key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x98FA0E5F Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
On Friday, March 23, 2007, at 17:07:27 [UTC+0100] (Friday, March 23, 2007 17:07 my local time) Marek Mikus wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-98-06.exe when was installation finished, system reported error in thebat.exe, error message attached. When I started thebat.exe manually after this, it started normally. I have similar observation when updating the Voyager. Another problem is lack of Update section in Preferences (see attached picture). As a consequence, the remain sections are shifted and reference wrong settings. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat Voyager v3.98.6 in OTFE mode on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) v_prefs.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Charlie, On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:02:39 -0500 GMT (24/03/2007, 03:02 +0700 GMT), Charlie Kroeger wrote: CK Sorry dude, my v.3 key block retrieved a key to activate the above version of CK Voyager but got an error message for my trouble. Wait a second: We have to reactivate after upgrading? Does that count towards the five times of new activation we are allowed with Voyager? I don't know where my key is... so far, I never re-activated any software after upgrading. The changelog is impressively long, that's good. However, I'll give it a pass anyway. I will try the first version that doesn't write to the registry. Voyager is to be used on other people's computers and it is rather embarrassing that it leaves its marks there. -- Cheers, Thomas. Invent nonsense computer jargon in conversations, and see if people play along to avoid looking ignorant. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.98.6
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF Wait a second: We have to reactivate after upgrading? Does that count TF towards the five times of new activation we are allowed with Voyager? Not here I didn't. Installed normally and working fine. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.98.6 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.0.0.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
