Re: Scrollbar problem
Click in, say, the 'To:' box of a new message. Click on the 'View History' button. If you have a big enough history list it will be displayed with scollbars. Try dragging the thumb. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5681 -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Five-second fuses only last three seconds. - Infantry Journal pgpMxEonwUDxZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.08 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem
Hi Stuart Hemming, Friday, February 10, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : Try dragging the thumb. Not functional! Mouse wheel and klicking below the thumb however are working. Confirmed. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.70.08 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Scrollbar problem
Click in, say, the 'To:' box of a new message. Click on the 'View History' button. If you have a big enough history list it will be displayed with scollbars. Try dragging the thumb. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted then used against you. pgpaC1RG3Ocke.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.08 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem
[Reply to: Stuart Hemming · 2006-02-10 · 09:35 h (CET)] Hello, Stuart! Try dragging the thumb. Does not work. -- Cheers! VA - using The Bat! 3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) (Pro) on Windows XP SP2. If you are in deep water, you should not hang the head. Current beta is 3.70.08 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem
Hallo Volker, On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:36:28 +0100GMT (10-2-2006, 13:36 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Try dragging the thumb. VA Does not work. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof Say it with flowers. Give her a Triffid The Bat! 3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpBy4Nj71XjS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.08 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Account list, scrollbar problem
Hello tbbeta, Someone reported sometimes a similar behavior, I remember, but I cant find it... So, expand your account list until the scrollbar will appear, plus expand one more account. Pull down the scrollbar completely so you will see the end of the account list but you dont see the first some accounts. Now close every expanded account that you can see on the screen, but DONT scroll up! If you finished, you will see your accounts closed except the first some account. AND you see the scrollbar. Try to pull up the scrollbar. Magic: it disappears... It is not a major issue, but should be fixed. I am sensing custom scrollbar use for that Delphi custom treeview component (account list.) -- Vili Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account list, scrollbar problem
Vili, On 02-09-2005 16:46, you [V] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: V So, expand your account list until the scrollbar will appear, V plus expand one more account. Pull down the scrollbar completely V so you will see the end of the account list but you dont see the V first some accounts. Now close every expanded account that you V can see on the screen, but DONT scroll up! This was introduced with the new UI. I hate it, too. I has been reported but it maybe it hasn't a BT entry. If you make one, I'll definitely support. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.60.07 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. ~11 POP3, 2 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account list, scrollbar problem
Hello tbbeta, Someone reported sometimes a similar behavior, I remember, but I cant find it... It has been mentioned in here before and not just with the account tree IIRC. If it's not on BT then it's your turn to post. 8-) -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. A pessimist's blood type is always b-negative. pgpep4ail1A1K.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account list, scrollbar problem
Hello Stuart! On Friday, September 02, 2005, 9:57 AM, you wrote: Someone reported sometimes a similar behavior, I remember, but I cant find it... It has been mentioned in here before and not just with the account tree IIRC. If it's not on BT then it's your turn to post. 8-) I did write a BT report, but I get a 404 error when I try to access it. However, see my note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4805 in which I refer to my report. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account list, scrollbar problem
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4805 Your report seems to be pointing at 4290 which I can see but seems to be something else entirely. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing. pgpIaNVq0ZqRF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account list, scrollbar problem
Hello Mary! On Friday, September 02, 2005, 11:15 AM, you wrote: Someone reported sometimes a similar behavior, I remember, but I cant find it... It has been mentioned in here before and not just with the account tree IIRC. If it's not on BT then it's your turn to post. 8-) I did write a BT report, but I get a 404 error when I try to access it. However, see my note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4805 in which I refer to my report. Sorry. Finally got https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4290 to come up. Stuart made that report and I have on it supporting notes. Not sure if it was Stuart Hemming, Stuart Cuddy, or some other reporter named Stuart. Anyway, the issue mentioned in BT 4290 is Confirmed but not fixed. The Stuart who is the reporter noted that the problem is still present in beta v. 3.60.02. And, of course, it's still present in release version 3.60.07. I have just added a note confirming that the scrollbar problems all still exist. This BT issue, while confirmed, has not yet been assigned and, as I said above, is still open. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account list, scrollbar problem
Hello Stuart! On Friday, September 02, 2005, 11:25 AM, you wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4805 Your report seems to be pointing at 4290 which I can see but seems to be something else entirely. No, I brought it up, also. It does discuss the scrollbar issue. And, as I've just appended to my post, contrary to my memory, I did not write 4290. I simply put a confirming note and mentioned the other scrollbar issues which it seemed to me must be related to the one reported in 4290. Thanks for looking, Stuart. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Scrollbar problem in Account Tree Revisisted
Writen At Internet Time - @614, or Thursday, June 16, 2005, 08:44:32 Hello tbbeta, Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AM Hi all, AM Can you all duplicate the following?: AM Setup your account tree so that the scroll-bar isn't required and AM doesn't show up. You may have to collapse accounts to do this. AM Now expand an account or two so that the scroll-bar appears and the full AM folder list isn't in view, taking up more than the space provided in the AM accounts pane. Scroll downwards, and then collapse a lower account so that AM what's left may now be displayed in the account tree area. AM I note two things: AM - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided AM - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to AM scroll the upper folders back into view. With the new version of The Bat! (3.5.27), I revisited this previous known problem. It looks like it is getting better as I was messing around with it just now. I believe the problem still exists, but not as bad as it was. It does not do as the two things that Allie mentioned above, but there is still some weird behavior. When I go to the bottom of the scroll bar, it jumps to the bottom and there is a lot of White Space. But if I move the scroll bar up just a little the display area will Jump into the correct position. But at the same time, I have had 2 AV's doing this too. Here is one: = Access Violation at address 0005096E. Read of Address 0005096E. = Sorry I didn't get the address of the other one. Just providing some follow-up on known previous problems... -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.5.27 On Windows XP SP2 pgpLG9TNpfa4I.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree Revisisted
Hello Michael! On Thursday, June 16, 2005, 8:47 AM, you wrote: AM I note two things: AM - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided AM - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to AM scroll the upper folders back into view. With the new version of The Bat! (3.5.27), I revisited this previous known problem. It looks like it is getting better as I was messing around with it just now. I believe the problem still exists, but not as bad as it was. It does not do as the two things that Allie mentioned above, but there is still some weird behavior. When I go to the bottom of the scroll bar, it jumps to the bottom and there is a lot of White Space. But if I move the scroll bar up just a little the display area will Jump into the correct position. Michael, there are about half a dozen scrollbar problems, and they very probably are all related. Could you please put a supporting note at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4290 ? And could you test the behavior in the editor window and the preview pane of these scrollbar problems and confirm they are still there in .27, also? See: my message, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the thread beginning with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (the one from Allie which is quoted above), and including mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.27 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie, Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:51:45 AM, you wrote: Actually, the very same problem affects the message list This has been reported already, I think. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.5.25 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie, I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CT Hello Allie, CT Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:51:45 AM, you wrote: Actually, the very same problem affects the message list CT This has been reported already, I think. Several times, I believe... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Had a life once. Now I have a computer. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree)
Hallo Michael, On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:54:45 -0500GMT (4-6-2005, 3:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- MA Confirmed, got the same indications that you mentioned above. MA MA Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Michael. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator ... and ... Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ga Naar WINDOWS 95. Ga Niet Langs DOS. Ontvang Geen f 2,- The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpjs7nedyzGk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree)
Saturday, June 4, 2005, 7:07:33 PM, (Internet Time - @046) you wrote: Hello Roelof, RO ' Sorry about that. Hopefully it is fixed now. Don't know why it would change after coping and pasting the reply template from my old address. But again sorry about that... -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.5.25 On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hi all, Can you all duplicate the following?: Setup your account tree so that the scroll-bar isn't required and doesn't show up. You may have to collapse accounts to do this. Now expand an account or two so that the scroll-bar appears and the full folder list isn't in view, taking up more than the space provided in the accounts pane. Scroll downwards, and then collapse a lower account so that what's left may now be displayed in the account tree area. I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
On Friday, June 3, 2005 @ 5:58:59 PM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote: I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. Confirmed. -- Matt Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie! On Friday, June 03, 2005, 7:58 PM, you wrote: I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. Confirmed. This is probably of-a-piece with all the other scroll-bar and empty-lines problems that have been noted over and over through the UI-Customise beta series leading up to v. 3.5, never attended to, and still unfixed. I have been debating for a couple of weeks whether to write a bug note about it. I think maybe the developers thought when they fixed the empty lines situation using the mouse to scroll (in message composition window and account/folder tree pane) that they had fixed everything. But a right/click menu use to go to the bottom of either the account tree or the message composition (Edit Message) window, still leaves the problem of those empty spaces. I'm going to think about it overnight and perhaps put up a bug note tomorrow. Surely this is not Working As Designed ? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
On Friday, June 03, 2005 at 8:21:09 PM [GMT -0500], Matt Thoene wrote: I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. Confirmed. Actually, the very same problem affects the message list. - collapse all threads. - expand a thread at the bottom of the list and then scroll to the bottom of the list. Make sure the root of the thread is visible since you'll need to collapse the thread to see that the message list doesn't adjust to fill the empty part of the message list pane left after collapsing the thread. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Oxymoron: Unachievable Accomplishments. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:58:59 -0500, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi all, Can you all duplicate the following?: Setup your account tree so that the scroll-bar isn't required and doesn't show up. You may have to collapse accounts to do this. Now expand an account or two so that the scroll-bar appears and the full folder list isn't in view, taking up more than the space provided in the accounts pane. Scroll downwards, and then collapse a lower account so that what's left may now be displayed in the account tree area. I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Confirmed, got the same indications that you mentioned above. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie! On Friday, June 03, 2005, 8:51 PM, you wrote: Actually, the very same problem affects the message list. - collapse all threads. - expand a thread at the bottom of the list and then scroll to the bottom of the list. Make sure the root of the thread is visible since you'll need to collapse the thread to see that the message list doesn't adjust to fill the empty part of the message list pane left after collapsing the thread. Confirmed. And please see my message just sent, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , where I confirm and relate this to other scroll-bar problems. I think they might all very well fit in one bug note. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie, Friday, June 3, 2005, 8:51:45 PM, you wrote: I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. Confirmed. AM Actually, the very same problem affects the message list. AM - collapse all threads. AM - expand a thread at the bottom of the list and then scroll to the AM bottom of the list. Make sure the root of the thread is visible since AM you'll need to collapse the thread to see that the message list doesn't AM adjust to fill the empty part of the message list pane left after AM collapsing the thread. Further, in Micro-ed the same kind of behavior. See: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4290. Also try Selecting View/Display/Unread Messages Only. All the messages are scrolled off the top instead of filling the screen from the top down. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Stuart! On Friday, June 03, 2005, 9:23 PM, you wrote: Further, in Micro-ed the same kind of behavior. See: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4290. Also try Selecting View/Display/Unread Messages Only. All the messages are scrolled off the top instead of filling the screen from the top down. Confirmed. I have just added a further note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4290. which I also supported back in March, when you wrote it, Stuart. But, I think, in order to get full attention, maybe we need a complete new note citing v. 3.5.25, and describing all the scroll-bar lacks in a numbered list. What do the rest of you think? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/