Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
Hello 9Val! On Monday, July 03, 2006, 4:43 PM, you wrote: MB But unless RitLabs changed something in the Mail Ticker code, MB beginning with v. 3.81.03, it's a needle-in-a-haystack search. Fixed. ... Oh, joy! Many thanks!! ... Problem really was in Ticker, so thanks for your patient investigations :) My pleasure. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
Hello Mary, MB But unless RitLabs changed something in the Mail Ticker code, MB beginning with v. 3.81.03, it's a needle-in-a-haystack search. Fixed. Problem really was in Ticker, so thanks for your patient investigations :) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
Hello Goncalo! On Friday, June 30, 2006, 4:21 PM, you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB Same incomplete paint job plus flickering Mail Ticker. MB Since v. 3.80.06 runs just fine for me and versions 3.81.03, .04, MB and .05 have this problem at launch, and based on this most recent MB test, I don't think my drivers are the source of the difficulty. Can you test that version with only one (and empty) account? If it works, load your accounts and try to narrow it down. Remove virtual folder, filters and stuff like that until it works. How do you mean? I have only two accounts in TB! Both POP3. Do you mean set up another TB! account but with only the default folders and settings? And move my existing POP3 accounts (they're under MAIL) completely out of the folder for The Bat! (it's under Programs)? But I thought the Mail Ticker settings function across all TB! accounts. So what would the settings for the accounts have to do with the Mail Ticker code not functioning in the three latest betas? Remember, if I reset the Mail Ticker setting to Hide in v. 3.80.06, and then install 3.81.03, .04, or .05, the beta launches and functions perfectly. If I then reset (within, for example, beta v. 3.81.05) the Mail Ticker to Always, it immediately begins to flicker, is unusable, and then the entire TB! window partially unpaints itself. TB! freezes for most functions--including ability to change the Mail Ticker setting from Always back to Hide--and I can only close it. And, in the case of .05, must resort to Task Manager to close. Furthermore, after I then close TB!, it's impossible to get back to v. 3.80.06 over 3.81.05, whether choosing either Repair or Modify. I can return to v. 3.80.06 only if I either rename or delete the exe within the TB! folder. Or, more drastically, with a System Restore. I am a bit leery of moving my existing POP3 accounts out of the TB! folder. There are saved messages within them that I would truly hate to lose. Anyway, I'm not completely sure that this is what you were suggesting I do, Goncalo. Please clarify? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Still incomplete painting on launch
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB Since v. 3.80.06 runs just fine for me and versions 3.81.03, .04, MB and .05 have this problem at launch, and based on this most recent MB test, I don't think my drivers are the source of the difficulty. Can you test that version with only one (and empty) account? If it works, load your accounts and try to narrow it down. Remove virtual folder, filters and stuff like that until it works. MB How do you mean? If possible, make a backup of your current TB!, uninstall it, delete all related folders and install a fresh version with the msi provided by Ritlabs at their site. Then create a new POP3 account. Now try the new beta version. If it works then it's something your current installation, if not it's something in your system (which I doubt). MB I have only two accounts in TB! Both POP3. MB Do you mean set up another TB! account but with only the default folders MB and settings? No, setup a fresh TB! MB And move my existing POP3 accounts (they're under MAIL) completely out MB of the folder for The Bat! (it's under Programs)? MB But I thought the Mail Ticker settings function across all TB! MB accounts. MB So what would the settings for the accounts have to do with the Mail MB Ticker code not functioning in the three latest betas? I thought your couldn't even open TB! at all. It could have something to do with VF or filters. I'm just trying to cut things off. MB Remember, if I reset the Mail Ticker setting to Hide in v. 3.80.06, MB and then install 3.81.03, .04, or .05, the beta launches and functions MB perfectly. MB If I then reset (within, for example, beta v. 3.81.05) the Mail Ticker MB to Always, it immediately begins to flicker, is unusable, and then MB the entire TB! window partially unpaints itself. Hmmm... I think I didn't understand your problem correctly. MB TB! freezes for most functions--including ability to change the Mail MB Ticker setting from Always back to Hide--and I can only close it. MB And, in the case of .05, must resort to Task Manager to close. I see. Mine is working perfectly. MB Furthermore, after I then close TB!, it's impossible to get back to v. MB 3.80.06 over 3.81.05, whether choosing either Repair or Modify. I MB can return to v. 3.80.06 only if I either rename or delete the exe MB within the TB! folder. Or, more drastically, with a System Restore. MB I am a bit leery of moving my existing POP3 accounts out of the TB! MB folder. There are saved messages within them that I would truly hate MB to lose. MB Anyway, I'm not completely sure that this is what you were suggesting MB I do, Goncalo. MB Please clarify? I've explain it above but I thought you couldn't even open TB! Nevertheless, if it was with me I would try it anyway. I remember when I had a problem with the Backup system that no one else had and I had to narrow it down by myself. I guess you're a little is this position now. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Areoma: The odor from an exercise room after an aerobics c Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Still incomplete painting on launch
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
MB TB! freezes for most functions--including ability to change the Mail
MB Ticker setting from Always back to Hide--and I can only close it.
MB And, in the case of .05, must resort to Task Manager to close.
GF I see. Mine is working perfectly.
UPDATE.
I've enabled the mail ticker to test your problem and on exit TB! took
nearly 3 minutes to close. I saw, what suspect you've described, an
half painted main windows. It stayed like this for about 3 mins with
50% cpu occupation. I don't know what it was doing.
My system isn't low end (AMD X2 3800+ with 2Gb of RAM) but
nevertheless the (normally 1 sec) shutdown took 3 mins.
Still, my TB is working (apparently) flawlessly with the mail ticker
enabled.
--
Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
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Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
Hello Goncalo! On Saturday, July 01, 2006, 7:34 AM, you wrote: MB Please clarify? I've explain it above but I thought you couldn't even open TB! Glad I took the time to tell the problem in detail again, then. Nevertheless, if it was with me I would try it anyway. I remember when I had a problem with the Backup system that no one else had and I had to narrow it down by myself. I guess you're a little is this position now. Yes. I have one confirmation, from Stuart Hemming. But unless RitLabs changed something in the Mail Ticker code, beginning with v. 3.81.03, it's a needle-in-a-haystack search. If they did make a change in the Mail Ticker code, then they could simply compare 3.80.06 with 3.81.05 and narrow the cause of the difficulty down. That's if they have the time. I could run v. 3.81.05 without using the Mail Ticker (set it to Hide before installing v. 3.81.05). And I tried that--but I missed the Mail Ticker's convenience too much. I think if RitLabs doesn't fix this in v. 3.82, or before, that I shall simply continue to run v. 3.80.06 and stop beta testing. Although, I would, of course, continue reading TBBETA. It's always so interesting here! :) I read all the time on TBUDL about problems getting the Mail data base back after--for any of a variety of reasons--a completely fresh install of The Bat! Not sure I want to risk it, just for the ability to keep testing TB! betas. If the problem persists in v. 3.82, it's sure to surface in the wider community of users, I think, and at that point maybe the RitLabs team will take a look at it. Thanks a million for all the support and help! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
Hello Goncalo! On Saturday, July 01, 2006, 7:52 AM, you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB TB! freezes for most functions--including ability to change the Mail MB Ticker setting from Always back to Hide--and I can only close it. MB And, in the case of .05, must resort to Task Manager to close. GF I see. Mine is working perfectly. UPDATE. I've enabled the mail ticker to test your problem and on exit TB! took nearly 3 minutes to close. I saw, what suspect you've described, an half painted main windows. It stayed like this for about 3 mins with 50% cpu occupation. I don't know what it was doing. My system isn't low end (AMD X2 3800+ with 2Gb of RAM) but nevertheless the (normally 1 sec) shutdown took 3 mins. Still, my TB is working (apparently) flawlessly with the mail ticker enabled. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this further testing! I think that if my bug report, http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 , gets assigned, that a member of the development team will be able to spot the anomaly in the code. If you have the time, could you add this piece of information from your test in a note to my BT report? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
Hello Jernej! On Thursday, June 29, 2006, 9:16 AM, you wrote: See http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 . This might be related to graphic drivers - have you tried updating to the latest offered by your graphic card manufacturer? It's Radeon. I did a check using Windows verifier.exe, and all drivers are as they should be, according to that. Then I did a fresh download of v. 3.81.05 and installed it over v. 3.80.06. Same incomplete paint job plus flickering Mail Ticker. Since v. 3.80.06 runs just fine for me and versions 3.81.03, .04, and .05 have this problem at launch, and based on this most recent test, I don't think my drivers are the source of the difficulty. I notice at the download page that RitLabs is planning a release of v. 3.82. I hope they will try to run down the source of this problem before a public release, since two beta testers (Stuart Hemming and me) have reported encountering it, and it's on the BT issue report entries. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Still incomplete painting on launch
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB Same incomplete paint job plus flickering Mail Ticker. MB Since v. 3.80.06 runs just fine for me and versions 3.81.03, .04, MB and .05 have this problem at launch, and based on this most recent MB test, I don't think my drivers are the source of the difficulty. MB I notice at the download page that RitLabs is planning a release MB of v. 3.82. I hope they will try to run down the source of this MB problem before a public release, since two beta testers (Stuart MB Hemming and me) have reported encountering it, and it's on the BT MB issue report entries. Can you test that version with only one (and empty) account? If it works, load your accounts and try to narrow it down. Remove virtual folder, filters and stuff like that until it works. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias One Beer gets me Drunk...usually the 47th. Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Still incomplete painting on launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available]
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, 8:00 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ This beta is unusable for me--same problems as with v. 3.81.03 and its successor v. 3.81.04. With an added difficulty--cannot close the incompletely painted window. Had to resort to Windows Task Manager to end TB! See http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 . (I note that this issue is not assigned as yet. Just wanted to report that I cannot further test beta v. 3.81.05 because of the problem.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
On Thursday, June 29, 2006, 14:25:00, Mary Bull wrote: See http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 . This might be related to graphic drivers - have you tried updating to the latest offered by your graphic card manufacturer? -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.05 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] All thing being equal, all things are never equal. -- Paradox of Selective Equality Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch
This might be related to graphic drivers - have you tried updating to the latest offered by your graphic card manufacturer? FWIW, no, repeat, no other program running on this machine suffers any kind of graphics related problem and many of them, I suggest, make greater demands on my graphics card than my mail client. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Xylophataquieopiaphobia: The fear of not pronouncing words correctly. pgpsI9PwVAmO7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still incomplete painting on launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available]
This beta is unusable for me--same problems as with v. 3.81.03 and its successor v. 3.81.04. Me too. With an added difficulty--cannot close the incompletely painted window. Had to resort to Windows Task Manager to end TB! Again, me too. I didn't have any problem closing 3.81.03/04 but this version elopes with my processor as soon as it starts up. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Worry: When your wife, your mistress and your mortgage are all 30 days late. pgpB3hfBk8NoT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
