Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Michael, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] a.htm created After installing 3.62.09 yesterday and after a spyware scan this morning, CouterSpy found a.htm and was calling it a Key logger Trojan. Well when I see anything that says Trojan, I delete it. I had never had this show up in the spyware scans before this morning. What exactly is a.htm anyway? Now that I know where I came from, I will be less sensitive about this file. But would like to know exactly what it is for. It was a leftover developer TB! code, dont worry about it! (It contained the last opened email's body). -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Thursday, November 3, 2005, 5:58:04 AM, (Internet Time - @540) you wrote: Hello Vili, V It was a leftover developer TB! code, dont worry about it! (It V contained the last opened email's body). Thanks Vili. I just wanted to make sure and you confirmed my thoughts. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.62.10 Windows XP Professional/5.1 Service Pack 2 (build 2600) on a Single/Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) Current beta is 3.62.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:25:50 -0500, Vili wrote: Henk: No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! So, v.07 and up was ok, just your tbuser.def was messed up... Why is a good question... :( In an earlier message about these specific AV's Henk wrote: Between these two betas I fell back to the public 3.62 and that did not give me these AV's. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that his tbuser.def did NOT get messed up (otherwise he wouldn't have been able to switch languages in his previous public 3.62. So, something in the handling of tbuser.def in the later post release beta versions must have changed (gone wrong). Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 3.62.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 11:48 AM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi Up and running well. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, 9Val wrote: 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ___ I cannot remember, but wasn't an option present to enable/disable message tabs under view. I think this was present earlier. If not, does this option exist elsewhere? Jon Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off. — George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, at 19:48:26 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:48 where I live) 9val wrote: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ...snipped No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! -- Henk M. de Bruijn :-) __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.62.10 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgp7f6otFEDYk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello 9Val, The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi [-] a.htm created [-] userdic.tlx overwritten ATTENTION: Unfortunately MSI doesn't allow to silently ignore file absence. It means that on update to .10 it will *delete* it. So you need to backup that file and restore it after updating. All subsequent versions will leave userdic.tlx to live forever. I dont understand it... silently ignore file absence. But userdic.tlx is actually there... -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, 9Val wrote: 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ___ Is it just my system? With the 3.62 series, TB seems slower when going from folder to folder. Starting TB shows some delay and flicker on startup. Finally, opening and closing windows (address book, editor, search, etc) seem to be slower and have that flicker too. Did not happen before. Jon Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- If you're a younger person, you ought to be asking members of Congress and the United States Senate and the president what you intend to do about it. If you see a train wreck coming, you ought to be saying, what are you going to do about it, Mr. Congressman, or Madam Congressman? — George W. Bush, Detroit, Mich., Feb. 8, 2005 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, at 19:47:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:47 where I live) Henk de Bruijn wrote: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ...snipped No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! I don't know why, but suddenly I had to think of 3.09.10, maybe 3.62.10 is as. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.62.10 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpzup2CdPC7l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JP I cannot remember, but wasn't an option present to enable/disable JP message tabs under view. I think this was present earlier. If not, JP does this option exist elsewhere? Options/Preferences/Messages/Tabs and untick all boxes is what you want I think. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.62.10 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, you wrote: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] userdic.tlx overwritten userdic.tlx was overwritten again. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 2:31:02 PM, Richard Wakeford wrote: RW Options/Preferences/Messages/Tabs and untick all boxes is what you want RW I think. Thanks Richard. That won't work for me since the All tab was introduced some betas ago. I did track down the problem and deleted the tbuser.DEF file. That restored the option to show or hide the message tabs. This is located under View. Now I have to rebuild all my customizations. Jon ___ Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the — the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice. —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello all, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, Richard Newman wrote: Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, you wrote: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] userdic.tlx overwritten userdic.tlx was overwritten again. please read 9Val's attention in announcement. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.62.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Marek, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 2:40:31 PM, you wrote: MM please read 9Val's attention in announcement. I did and it wasn't clear to me that this wasn't fixed when it said All subsequent versions will leave userdic.tlx to live forever. I thought he meant live or stay and not leave or disappear or always be overwritten. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, I cannot remember, but wasn't an option present to enable/disable message tabs under view. I think this was present earlier. If not, does this option exist elsewhere? View/Message List Tabs. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JP That won't work for me since the All tab was JP introduced some betas ago. Of course, sorry about that. JP I did track down the problem and deleted the tbuser.DEF file. There have been a couple of posts talking of deleting that file solving problems. Maybe we should all do it ;-) JP That restored the option to show or hide the message tabs. This is JP located under View. That's the one I should have told you about, not the Options setting! you mean you didn't have it before you deleted the .DEF file? then I'm lucky because I have it although I'm not sure I didn't customise it and put it there when the Tabs were first implemented! Glad we're both happy now :-) JP Now I have to rebuild all my customizations. Maybe for the last time, fingers crossed. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.62.10 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Richard! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 1:51 PM, you wrote: I thought he meant live or stay and not leave or disappear or always be overwritten. He did. The key word here is subsequent, in the sense of coming after version 3.62.10. He was saying you would have to restore your userdic.tlx file after installing .10 because the msi would delete it, in .10. Then he says that v. 3.62.11 or .12 or whatever they offer you next will not delete it. Or overwrite it. This is the way in which the bug is fixed. At least, that's my understanding of 9Val's words: 9Val in [EMAIL PROTECTED] : == [-] userdic.tlx overwritten ATTENTION: Unfortunately MSI doesn't allow to silently ignore file absence. It means that on update to .10 it will *delete* it. So you need to backup that file and restore it after updating. All subsequent versions will leave userdic.tlx to live forever. == All subsequent versions I take to mean v. 3.62.11 and its successors. will leave userdic.tlx to live forever I take to mean that from v. 3.62.11 this file will no more be overwritten. Not so? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Mary, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 3:09:19 PM, you wrote: MB This is the way in which the bug is fixed. At least, that's my MB understanding of 9Val's words: Thanks for your translation. Guess we will see in the next iteration. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Henk, The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ...snipped No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! So, v.07 and up was ok, just your tbuser.def was messed up... Why is a good question... :( -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Vili everyone else, on 02-Nov-2005 at 19:48 you (Vili) wrote: I dont understand it... silently ignore file absence. But userdic.tlx is actually there... MSI is a Microsoft product... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Fun is like insurance; the older you get, the more it costs. -- Kim Hubbard Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Richard! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 2:20 PM, you wrote: MB This is the way in which the bug is fixed. At least, that's my MB understanding of 9Val's words: Thanks for your translation. Guess we will see in the next iteration. Yes. My fingers are crossed. This bug hasn't affected me, because I've never added any words to my dictionaries. But I see it as a big headache for those it affects. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Greg Strong everyone else, on 02-Nov-2005 at 19:09 you (Greg Strong) wrote: How about a rar file download with either a direct link or on http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ or both? Since 3.62.05 the daily builds are not betas, but finals. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 1:57:24 PM, you wrote: JP Is it just my system? With the 3.62 series, TB seems slower when going JP from folder to folder. Starting TB shows some delay and flicker on JP startup. Finally, opening and closing windows (address book, editor, JP search, etc) seem to be slower and have that flicker too. Did not JP happen before. I've been tracking this flicker problem for a while. When the program starts, it redraws the screen twice. There is a bug somewhere but I'm at a lose to explain it. The graphics does slow down the program. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Alexander, I dont understand it... silently ignore file absence. But userdic.tlx is actually there... MSI is a Microsoft product... It did not answer my question... or my silent thought :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
RW Maybe we should all do it ;-) Agreed, but it will not be a strong selling point for others wanting to come to TB from another client. Besides, re-creating customizations every time there is a problem is a pain. RW then I'm RW lucky because I have it although I'm not sure I didn't customise it Never customized it at all. Just lost it. RW Maybe for the last time, fingers crossed. Hope so, but it wouldn't be TB without some aggravation. Thanks again for your help. Jon ___ Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- I appreciate people's opinions, but I'm more interested in news. And the best way to get the news is from objective sources, and the most objective sources I have are people on my staff who tell me what's happening in the world. — Bush, redefining objectivity. Source: CNN, Bush 'Not Paying Attention' to Democratic Race: President Getting His News From Aides, Sept. 23, 2003 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:48:26 AM, (Internet Time - @783) you wrote: Hello 9Val, 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] a.htm created After installing 3.62.09 yesterday and after a spyware scan this morning, CouterSpy found a.htm and was calling it a Key logger Trojan. Well when I see anything that says Trojan, I delete it. I had never had this show up in the spyware scans before this morning. What exactly is a.htm anyway? Now that I know where I came from, I will be less sensitive about this file. But would like to know exactly what it is for. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.62.09 Windows XP Professional/5.1 Service Pack 2 (build 2600) on a Single/Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
