Re: Scandinavian character problem
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Monday, November 15, 1999, 10:19:48 AM you told us: [ Sorry for late reply, just update to 1.37/beta 3 ] OA Since installing The Bat! v1.35 and 1.36, I've had problems with OA the scandinavian characters 'øæå' when recieving mail from various OA sources. First I thought it was only from web-mail accounts OA (hotmail, yahoo etc.), but it seems that almost every mail I get OA from Norway displays some other crappy characters instead. OA What can I do?? It worked fine in 1.34, and I havent changed any OA settings. SH Are you using International Language Pack ? Have you update it ? TF I thought the language pack is about the interface language, not TF about the chracter encoding/decoding in the mail bodies. Kindly TF advise. I thought as you in the past, till install the international language pack. At a sudden, if receiving msg from "Alexander V. Kiselev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] which content double-byte character set, my default font change to Courier (actually my default font = Monospace821BT). I guess, the default font which set by Oyvind Antonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] not support double-byte characterset. So, there are 2 workaround here : 1. Change the characterset or, 2. Install Int Language Pack. -- - syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 I am using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/3 registered at Windows NT Workstation 4.0 built 1381, Service Pack 6 Created : Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:02:10 (GMT + 07:00) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Hello Adam Gobiowski, On Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:13:53 AM you told us: AG right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have AG cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . I have f-cih, but never use it yet. Would you like to test it ? I can send you privately. AG It would be nice if this program would check all the places, where AG virus can be (memory, disk) ... or just a good program working in AG dos mode... `cause cleancih doesn`t find anything... Are installing any anti-virus on Client not enough ? -- - syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 I am using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/3 registered at Windows NT Workstation 4.0 built 1381, Service Pack 6 Created : Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:52:46 (GMT + 07:00) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
SOT: Anti-virus Programmes (was:Re[12]: 1.36 install once more...)
Hi tracer, on Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:53:23 PM GMT+0800, tracer wrote: t In your case I would either get a good antivirus program (and that t means NOT MCAFEE or NORTON) and run them to clean your system up. Interesting, as I thought these were good. Anyway, I am using PC-Cillin (registered and paid for), which I update about every week, and would like to know your opinion on this. Also, do you know whether it kills CIH so that I don't need the programme you (illegally ;-)) attached to your posting? -- Thanks and best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.37 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
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Re: SOT: Anti-virus Programmes (was:Re[12]: 1.36 install once more...)
Monday, November 15, 1999 Hello Thomas, Monday, Monday, November 15, 1999, you wrote: Thomas Hi tracer, Thomas on Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:53:23 PM GMT+0800, tracer wrote: t In your case I would either get a good antivirus program (and that t means NOT MCAFEE or NORTON) and run them to clean your system up. Thomas Interesting, as I thought these were good. Anyway, I am using PC-Cillin Thomas (registered and paid for), which I update about every week, and would Thomas like to know your opinion on this. I havent really heard any bad news about PC-Cilin. Or Dr Solomons even if latest version seems to be a twin of McAfee. I just hope they learned enough from the Solomons product to improve their own scanner... They tried it before by nicking code from Symantec (they probably ended up paying for it)... I have a paid Thunderbyte and the Norman successor to it. Plus company wise we paid for several others. AVP is one of them and it allows installation in an infected system to clean it. I quite liked it till 3-4 months ago when it caused me an unstable system and now I run Dr Web, another Russian AV program which like AVP gets about 95% of my samples. Without causing me a big headache. I quite like the way it behaves and works (a bit like thunderbyte) by letting you control what happens. No idea how the latest Norman works as it was just emailed to me a few days ago and I was busy with another problem. With both Norton and McAfee I have seen many disasters and to get the best advice you really should go to those most likely to get infected... Ask any hacking/cracking group what their opinion is and you will be convinced.. I know, that doesnt mean much as answer but using a program like this depends on you as user, your system , you doing your updates. Your knowledge of what the program does/doesnt do. Not only on the actual antivirus program. Norton and McAfee marketing is excellent and their latest versions are getting a lot better but if you test them over as I did on a set of around 1 virus strains, I found they recognised around 6000 or so, and AVP, and several others got close to 9500. Still leaves 500 they ignored but then a lot of infections will get caught by their actions.. Essentially they are a bit the victim of our last dead horse subject trying to be idiot proof and simple enough for the masses... But they donot work properly! I even suspect that some 10 dead drives I saw last year may have been caused by Nortons AVP life update corrupting the MBR. One drive died on the reboot. I ended up with a sized 0 partition front of the real partition and while I got the data off, drive somehow like the other 9 was physical damaged. We never figured out what really happened but as one died during the update and all the others were running NAV 4... I myself use a combination of things and have over the years never been infected except one time, a backdoor but that trojan was a total new one and my firewall caught it after which a friendly visitor recognised my system name and told me what was running and how to get rid of it. It was quite obvious as I suddenly had loads of visitors tryng to get into my system... And they were very annoyed to get kicked off if they insisted too long... At present with the latest strains of Outlook related virus strains I am locally advicing to dump any MS email programs as its getting too dangerous as the latest donot even require you to open the attachments anymore. (but thats a kind of useless advice here as we use thebat!) Thomas Also, do you know whether it kills CIH so that I don't need the Thomas programme you (illegally ;-)) attached to your posting? Its a legal freeware program. 100% sure, I can give you the website as well... Spinrite isnt but then I wouldnt post that. Too big anyway. He also wrote a program to test zip and Jazz disks to see if the drive/disks may have the click of death problem. Nortons 2000 WILL clean CIH infected files. Your program no idea. McAfee was reported to have cleaned and all the files were useless... I know as I did one today... About 4 hours ago I was called to clean a system with pretty park or whatever and which someone had tried to clean manually following lousy instructions from the website. he then used Norton which quarantened the offending file after which windows didnt work anymore. Noting executed!. Anyway, I ran scanreg from dos, grabbed a backup registry 3 days old, rebooted and he had a working system after which Norton (had to be reinstalled cleaned the lot. So making sure as one virus means the owner wasnt properly protected, we ran the Norton over it and it found the CIH. Not active but it cleaned it. No idea if the file is then still runnable! Basically the real cure is get the data, reinstall as you can never properly trust the system after cleaning but I know, most people donot do it... AVP I know can clean it. It intercepted last year a whole cd full with it. A collection of
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Hi there! On 14 Nov 99, at 18:13, Adam Go³Ëbiowski wrote about "Re[10]: 1.36 install once more...": about wincih.. i killed wincih that was in memory with kill_cih.exe ant then tried to check it with nocih.exe. It says that my memory is infected with wincih... so the file nocih.exe must be infected... all right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . It would be nice if this program would check all the places, where virus can be (memory, disk) ... or just a good program working in dos mode... `cause cleancih doesn`t find anything... Goto www.dialognauka.ru and get the free version of Dr.Web (better to pay for the non-free:-)). Then grab all the add-ons available from their main page. Install the proggy, then unzip all the add-ons to the program directory. Scan with it. SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: The real world is a special case. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) ---
Re: Scandinavian character problem
Hi there! On 15 Nov 99, at 12:23, Syafril Hermansyah wrote about "Re: Scandinavian character problem": SH Are you using International Language Pack ? Have you update it ? TF I thought the language pack is about the interface language, not TF about the chracter encoding/decoding in the mail bodies. Kindly TF advise. I thought as you in the past, till install the international language pack. At a sudden, if receiving msg from "Alexander V. Kiselev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] which content double-byte character set, my default font change to Courier (actually my default font = Monospace821BT). I *never* sent a single message with double-byte characters! I even can't send one. What I do is sending the messages in 8- bit encodings, like this: îÅÍÎÏÖËÏ ÐÏ-ÒÕÓÓËÉ... As you know, 8 bits=1 byte, NOT 2 bytes! I guess, the default font which set by Oyvind Antonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] not support double-byte characterset. So, there are 2 workaround here : 1. Change the characterset or, 2. Install Int Language Pack. Forget it, no connection to the problem whatsoever. SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: Work expands to exceed available time --- Parkinson's Law --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) ---
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Hi all, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I wasn't assuming anything. I was just asking a specific question. In your question was the assumption of there being the possibility of putting things on the same drive. I am aware that it was possible to copy to a different drive. I was just asking about my particular situation where both machines in my home have F: drives where apps are installed. BTW, things become a little complicated when your home directory is not in the default location. What home directory. Come now, Ali, we both know that Windows doesn't have home directories. That's a Unixism. In The Bat!, open the account properties, and select File and Directories. There you'll see the home directory to which I'm referring. Well, if you are moving to another drive then it's not worth it. If you're moving to the same drive so that the paths remain the same then it's less trouble to move it than, redoing all the settings. I still isn't worth it since ancillary information may be located differently on each machine. If the ancillary information aren't located differently and both installations will be identical as may occur if you wish to do a clean reinstall on your system, or if you are transferring to the same partition on the other machine, then backing up the registry key saves you the trouble of reconfiguring and re-registering. What's this aversion with backing up a registry key and restoring it on another machine which will use the same configuration? This is entirely possible and far from unusual. I'm simply delineating the possible benefit of transferring the registry settings. I do acknowledge that it's possible to do a transfer without carrying over registry keys and that transferring the registry keys would be pointless if you are copying to a different drive or plan to use a different configuration. -- Regards, -=Ali=- "One martini is alright, two is too many, three is not enough." - James Thurber, American humorist (1894-1961) ** Using The Bat! v1.37 Beta/3 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) **
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Monday, November 15, 1999, 9:02:56 AM, Ali wrote: In The Bat!, open the account properties, and select File and Directories. There you'll see the home directory to which I'm referring. Funny, why do you think I said TB! should use relative paths, not absolute. I forced it to be relative and it works just fine. What's this aversion with backing up a registry key and restoring it on another machine which will use the same configuration? This is entirely possible and far from unusual. Because in my experience no machine of mine at home or work has ever used the same configuration. They always vary in some form or another. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Questions
Hello TheBatList, fellow bats, could you tell me what is wrong with bats attachments? i have a network and attached files were working with outlook 5 but now they are not attaching to the emails i send. the letter arrives but no attachment is with the mail. also i run my own mail server and so anything from this or that .com should be delivered to my regular email. works with outlook 5 but not with bat. again what is this htx file extension that keeps attaching itself to emails i send and receive? can bat not handle html formatted emails? thanks a bunch -- .o©º°¨¨°º©[ MARK BROWN ]©º°¨¨°º©o.
Re: Activating a different account automatically
Hi Douglas Hinds, On Montag, 15. November 1999 at 6:12:53 you wrote: DH I have filtered mail from a certain party to a folder in another DH account and want the active account for all replies to be the DH original account. So I put the original account's info in the DH folder's properties / identity slots of the folder my incoming DH mail was filter to, but this doesn't make the original account the DH active account when I initiate mail from or reply to mail filtered DH to that folder. What does this? (I'm assuming it's possible). Well, what you are describing works for me. I have three accounts. Now, when I put the mail address that usually belongs to account one into the identity/sender (or whatever exactly in english) field for a folder in another account, every mail I create while having that folder active has that address as sender. Hm, long sentence... hope I made myself clear ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re: Activating a different account automatically - still no answer
Hello Douglas, Hamburg/GER, Monday, November 15, 1999 in your mail dated Monday, November 15, 1999, 18:24, you whispered something about "Activating a different account automatically - still no answer": DH As far I can tell, I would have to go into options and do the change DH manually, each and every time. Is that correct? I would think each DH folder would (or should) have a user selectable default for it's DH active account, regardless of which account tree it's located in. Rightclick in each folder, Properties, Show unread messages on mail ticker. You have to repeat this for every folder you want or not want to be displayed. -- Best regards, Andreas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with an AMD K6-III 400, 128MB SDRAM PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key
Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another
Morning Steve Lamb, 2: Even if you do know you don't feel like typing it all out (no tab completion) or going through the registry editor. A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password Exactly. Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry. If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept? It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse my venting. -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build :with The Bat! 1.36
Re[2]: Activating a different account automatically - Oliver was right
Hello Oliver all fellow TBUDL members, Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:54:52 PM, you wrote: ... OS Well, what you are describing works for me. I have three accounts. OS Now, when I put the mail address that usually belongs to account one OS into the identity/sender (or whatever exactly in english) field for a OS folder in another account, every mail I create while having that OS folder active has that address as sender. Hm, long sentence... hope I OS made myself clear ;) OS Oliver Sturm Crystal clear and thank you for confirming that I did what I should have done. I *haven't* actually sent a reply yet from this folder, so I'll do so now. Done. I sent myself a message from that account saying "Test of which account the mail is shown to come from" and will check it now to see how it arrived. Meanwhile, I can say 2 things: The options indicates that the active account is the account where the folder is and not the account I want to be shown as the active account. Also, keying F2 brings in mail for the account where the folder is located and not the account the mail to me was directed to. Now we'll see what arrived: **Oliver was right!** The rest of it doesn't matter. In practice, the other account IS shown as the sending account. It appears I should have actually tried it, in spite of the other indicators to the contrary. Lesson learned, and TBUDL proved it's worth once more. Thanks to Oliver and all that responded on the other issue (the ticker), which *was* as suspected. Douglas
OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote: A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) Exactly. Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry. If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept? It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse my venting. Because Windows is still considered a single-user environment and people don't move from one machine to the other. This is quickly becoming not the case as computers become more pervasive. To think, Unix got it right 20-30 years ago yet there are still people who don't get it when others say that Microsoft has seriously stifled innovation. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, Well, it does have advantages over the ini-concept (no 64k-limit, additional data-types,...) SL Those limits are arbitrary. not if you use the microsoft-routines for accessing ini-files... (if you use just a write/read then it's limited to 4GB) Personaly: the registry concept is a good thing for certain programs (office stuff like that) it surely does have it advantages (everything is stored in a single place, making things much easier for programmers etc) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? (i mean user-specific settings that also work on an nt-network with server-based user-profiles for example) SL Or the fact that you want to move a program from one drive to another SL because one drive is getting close to full. I'm sorry, but anything which SL breaks because of basic system maintenance should be grounds for castration. Indeed, but there are utils that fix these things (I know, it should have been provided by MS...) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you ain't Moslem, you ain't Shiite. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re: (OT): Windows Registry
Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:03:57 PM, Roel wrote: Well, it does have advantages over the ini-concept (no 64k-limit, additional data-types,...) SL Those limits are arbitrary. not if you use the microsoft-routines for accessing ini-files... (if you use just a write/read then it's limited to 4GB) Those limits are arbitrary. The Microsoft routines obviously have bugs in them, don't they? :) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? Flat files in a user's home directory. (i mean user-specific settings that also work on an nt-network with server-based user-profiles for example) An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. Indeed, but there are utils that fix these things (I know, it should have been provided by MS...) Exactly. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re[2]: (OT): Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Those limits are arbitrary. The Microsoft routines obviously have bugs in SL them, don't they? :) well, it's not a real bug, as the ini-file-specification sets size limits to 64k... (remember that these were developped for win 3.x and maybe even lower...) so they just obey the limit that MS has set for ini-files... :-) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? SL Flat files in a user's home directory. well yes, but then you can't use simple acsii-files if you want to store binary data (or even executable strings like you can in the registry) (about the latter one: don't ask me how or even why, but it can be done...) (hell, where could somebody use this for? -excluding hackers!) SL An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that SL and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst SL choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" SL is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. I'm not so fond of NT either, but sometimes you can't make the call... since your budget or boss will :-( -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anything not nailed down is a cat toy. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re: (OT): Windows Registry
Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:28:53 PM, Roel wrote: well, it's not a real bug, as the ini-file-specification sets size limits to 64k... (remember that these were developped for win 3.x and maybe even lower...) so they just obey the limit that MS has set for ini-files... :-) File-specs can be updated. ;) SL Flat files in a user's home directory. well yes, but then you can't use simple acsii-files if you want to store binary data (or even executable strings like you can in the OK, non-flat-files in the user's home directory. :) SL An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that SL and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst SL choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" SL is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. I'm not so fond of NT either, but sometimes you can't make the call... since your budget or boss will :-( NT costs less, the boss, well, what he don't know won't hurt him. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re[4]: Moving from one PC to another
Re[2]: (OT): Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL File-specs can be updated. ;) well, since MS abandond the ini-file idea, i doubt they will... MS puts everything in the registry... they only support win.ini system.ini for compatibility with older progs drivers... (also a few network-related ini's) all other ini-files are like 'abandond' (at least by MS) SL OK, non-flat-files in the user's home directory. :) oops, didn't think of those :-) you're right :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RUNTIME ERROR 6D at 417A: 32CF: Incompetent user .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re[5]: Moving from one PC to another
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Soth, could you resend your last two messages: they showed up with nothing in them... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Captain, I sense a million minds staring at my cleavage." .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re[2]: (OT): Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Feh, silly me for thinking that MS would actually do anything in a sane SL manner or even consider the concept of backwards compatibility. :/ unfortunately, you're right :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A diplomat thinks twice before saying nothing. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re[6]: Moving from one PC to another
This is my second attempt... I'll skip the first message -- the topic has been beaten to death. ;-) But, here's the second topic... my brilliant idea. ;-) Subj: Idea for sorting office I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add sub-folders to the sorting filters? Their use would be primarily for grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters. The big question, IMHO, would be how would these affect the order in which the filters are processed? I think, tho', that this won't pose too big a problem if we assume that in any folder (including the root folder for that set of filters), we can intermix folders and filters (instead of all filters first or all filters last): 1. Filter A 2. Folder B 3. Filter C then the processing would be: filter A, all the filters in folder B, filter C. Anyhow, what do you think? - M.
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A and would like to report a bug The bug description: not a real bug but annoying: it is not possible to move more than one message in the address book to another folder per dragdrop (or any other way perceptable to me) Steps to reproduce the bug: try above out Regards, Jast
Re[7]: Moving from one PC to another
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Soth, S But, here's the second topic... my brilliant idea. ;-) S Subj: Idea for sorting office S I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add S sub-folders to the sorting filters? Their use would be primarily for S grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to S lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters. well, they kinda exist: just use 'alternatives'... drawback: only usefull if the exact same action can be performed... S The big question, IMHO, would be how would these affect the order S snip ... S Anyhow, what do you think? well, i like the idea i do think many people (including myself) would be happy with it... It sure would make filter-organizing much easier... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: COMPLETE mean? .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re[4]: Problem with TB on Win98
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Wolfgang, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Wolfgang Hi tracer, Wolfgang While having a shower this morning I decided that it is the Wolfgang graphics card driver. I'll test that on sunday (don't have Wolfgang access to my new pc before that :-( ). wouldnt you need another test video card??? Wolfgang BTW, the shower is an excellent place to solve computing Wolfgang problems ;-) I often had my best ideas in the small room next to it (g) The ONLY place where one is guaranteed private and free to concentrate... t One question though, you run 98 v2, is that the USA or German version. t I had serious problems with a system where the german v2 plainly t refused to run properly on one of the computers we had. Customer in t the end had to settle for the USA windows... Wolfgang German version. But TB runs un this Windows version on a quite Wolfgang old PC with a Pentium 66 Mhz. Well, we had serious problems with that German98 v2. Celeron systems though... Wolfgang Regards, Wolfgang Wolfgang Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Wolfgang Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B Wolfgang in Darmstadt, Germany, Wolfgang on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) Wolfgang http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Steve, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote: A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail if you donot do that One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... C only has the MS and OS stuff. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[3]: (OT): Windows Registry
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Roel, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Roel \\\|/// Roel / ~ _ \ Roel (- O o -) Roel --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Roel Hello Steve, SL Those limits are arbitrary. The Microsoft routines obviously have bugs in SL them, don't they? :) Roel well, it's not a real bug, as the ini-file-specification sets size Roel limits to 64k... (remember that these were developped for win 3.x and Roel maybe even lower...) Roel so they just obey the limit that MS has set for ini-files... :-) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? SL Flat files in a user's home directory. Roel well yes, but then you can't use simple acsii-files if you want to Roel store binary data (or even executable strings like you can in the Roel registry) (about the latter one: don't ask me how or even why, but it Roel can be done...) (hell, where could somebody use this for? -excluding Roel hackers!) virus writers Or MS wanting your system to do things they donot want you to know about... SL An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that SL and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst SL choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" SL is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. Roel I'm not so fond of NT either, but sometimes you can't make the call... Roel since your budget or boss will :-( Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello tracer, Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail t if you donot do that use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the occasional defrag scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason) This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... t C only has the MS and OS stuff. same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up running in 15 minutes :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay Alert. Stay Awake. Stay Alive. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: 2nd request, how to change ticker color
Hello Soth, Monday, November 15, 1999, 3:47:45 PM, you wrote: Can some one tell me how to change the ticker font color, clicking on font and changing the color dosn't do anything. S I don't think that the font colour can be changed. I think that it's S preset to green for normal priority, yellow for low and red for high... S or something like that. OK thanks, I didn't see anything in the help, maybe I overlooked it, hmmm would be a nice feature though maybe in the next upgrade. -- Best regards, Pasqualemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, Jast wrote about The Bat! - bug report: J The bug description: J not a real bug but annoying: it is not possible to move more than J one message in the address book to another folder per dragdrop J (or any other way perceptable to me) J Steps to reproduce the bug: J try above out I use Ctrl-V shortcat for moving messages from folder to folder it can handle multiple messages selected. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
