Re: DEAD HORSE was
Hi Wieland, On 02 February 2000 at 20:00:59 GMT +0100 (which was 19:00 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: WB I've heard that sometimes: What do you mean with "Dead Horse" ? I WB can not understand this discussion in TBUDL ... It comes from the saying "there's no use in flogging a dead horse". No amount of beating will make a dead horse run again. In this context it is list moderator jargon for "there is no merit in continuing to discuss this topic - subject closed". IMPORTANT NOTE - you placed your reply below the "-- " cut marker and I had to make a special effort to reply to you since your message was cut away with the signatures. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Sound
Dear TBUDL, Is it possible to get a sound played every time I get a message to the inbox?, Regards, Fredrik Bergstrom -- What has 2000 arms and 2000 legs but no pubic hair? - a Hanson concert. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Sound
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Thursday, February 03, 2000, Fredrik Bergström wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about Sound: FB Is it possible to get a sound played every time I get a message to FB the inbox?, I think you have to setup sound for account and disable or change sound settings for folders you don't want to have the same sound as Inbox. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.39 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: DEAD HORSE was
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:22:42 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: IMPORTANT NOTE - you placed your reply below the "-- " cut marker and I had to make a special effort to reply to you since your message was cut away with the signatures. BTW, the F4 shortcut that generates a reply, quoting only selected text, overrides the signature delimiter. Try selecting text below the signature delimiter and hitting F4. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Sound
Kära Oleg, torsdag, den 3 februari 2000, skrev du: OZ I think you have to setup sound for account and disable or change OZ sound settings for folders you don't want to have the same sound as OZ Inbox. Oh, hm.. well, I could filter (with a filter in the end) all messages that should stay in Inbox to another Folder and set a sound on that folder =) Regards, Fredrik Bergstrom -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Anybody else notice?
Hello everybody, That Phil guy is a strange character. Looking at his e-mail address (which he changed during the "discussion"), you see this: 1l2i3h4P56d7a8B Remove numbers: 1ihP daB Reverse line: Bad Phil Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!? Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: It is hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost and blamed it on the cost of living. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
On Wednesday, February 02, 2000 at 9:38 PM or thereabouts, Leif Gregory wrote the following about Anybody else notice?: Leif Looking at his e-mail address (which he changed during the Leif "discussion"), you see this: 1l2i3h4P56d7a8B Leif Remove numbers: Leif 1ihP daB Leif Reverse line: Leif Bad Phil Leif Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!? I won't ... it's too scary. :) Stop it. Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.users.uswest.net/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Often the test of courage is not to die but to live. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Leif Gregory, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:38:03 +0900 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, February 03, 2000, 10:38:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Leif Gregory wrote: Hello everybody, That Phil guy is a strange character. The website of his isp is stranger (g) Looking at his e-mail address (which he changed during the "discussion"), you see this: 1l2i3h4P56d7a8B Remove numbers: 1ihP daB Reverse line: Bad Phil Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!? because the numbers are sequential... Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.39 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]
Morning Syafril Hermansyah, No, no problem here. Look I am sending this message to List and to you separate by comma not semicolon. Weird, whenever I add somebody to a recipient list, TB definitely puts a semicolon in between. Of course I could put in a comma when adding addresses manually, but I wouldn't know why our versions are different in this respect... anybody else for trying it out? -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 Build A AIM jasticle:... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Font Problem
Hi there! On 2 Feb 00, at 22:24, Allie Martin wrote about "Font Problem": WCP is the second font that I've used which doesn't appear whenever I'm composing new messages. Sometimes when replying to some messages (I can't seem to detect the pattern), I don't get it to use as well. Courier New appears in its place. Reading all messages is fine in that they appear as they should in WCP. Okay, let me try;-) I'm not sure that my guess is right, but anyhow, something is needed to begin with;-) Consider you get a message in Russian (here's one: òïóóéñ -- it's how Russia is written in Russian;-)). Then the headers of this message very probably state: charset="koi8-r". Now try to reply to this message. What charset TB will use for reply? Yeah, it will use koi8-r, unless you explicitely change it via the options. Now the question: why should TB use koi8-r for replying to a message that is written in koi8-r? Explanation is simple indeed: TB needs to ensure, that the 8-bit text looks (when quoted by you) to you the same way it looked to me when _I_ composed my message. _If_ TB used another charset for reply, say, ISO- 8859-9 (it's Turkish), it would imply, that your reply should have been shown by TB using another font script (in this case, Turkish, since in X-LAT tables it's set up as the font script used with Turkish encoding). To understand what I mean clearly, just start composing a reply to this message and then manually change the encoding used (right-click the corresponding area of statusbar and select Western, for example). Now compare how the word òïóóéñ looked like when you viewed my message and how it looks like now, after you have switched the encoding. The reason is that TB has switched the font script used in the message editor when you changed the charset. Now I'll try to answer your initial question. When you're replying to the message in Russian (i.e. the message which is koi8-r-encoded), TB, following the logic described above, needs to change the font script used in the message editor to Cyrillic (used for Russian). What will happen if the font you're using doesn't support the Cyrillic script? Clearly, that's a problem for TB;-) I think, TB will just temporarily switch to the font that supposedly supports the Cyrillic script. This means, Courier New. Another strange thing is that whenever I open automated replies, they are in WCP font. When I opened this message in the Outbox, it was in Courier New. Any ideas why that would happen and any suggested work arounds? I like font consistency and dislike courier new intensely. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: A man with one watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never sure. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Fwd: More The Bat! features [sic]
Hi there! On 3 Feb 00, at 11:54, tracer wrote about "Re: Fwd: More The Bat! features [si": Alex, from my traveling I have noticed that local jokes are ALWAYS about the neigbouring countries or specific part in it. Belgians and the Dutch, English and the Irish/Scottish, USA and Canafa, Upper and lower Egypt etc etc. Sure you have this in Russia as well??? Err... yes, kind of;-) But nowadays Americans are becoming more and more favourite as the victims of that kind of humour here;-) Added Corel isnt a second MS, they are a heck of a lot better I don't think so. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: The sad thing about Windows bashing is it's all true. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]
Hello Jast, On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 13:46:57 GMT +0100 (which was 03/02/2000 19:46 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: No, no problem here. Look I am sending this message to List and to you separate by comma not semicolon. J Weird, whenever I add somebody to a recipient list, TB definitely puts a J semicolon in between. You mean get the address from address book ? Yes, in mine too. J Of course I could put in a comma when adding addresses manually, I put it manually, in the past it always give me "error message", but now no problem. J but I wouldn't know why our versions are different in this J respect... anybody else for trying it out? What happen if you put the addresses manually separate by comma ? -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Thursday, February 03, 2000, 22:01:14 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]
Hello Jast, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:46:57 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, February 03, 2000, 7:46:57 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jast wrote: Morning Syafril Hermansyah, No, no problem here. Look I am sending this message to List and to you separate by comma not semicolon. Weird, whenever I add somebody to a recipient list, TB definitely puts a semicolon in between. Of course I could put in a comma when adding addresses manually, but I wouldn't know why our versions are different in this respect... anybody else for trying it out? Semicolon here BEFORE sending. no idea how it would arive/ I run 98 v2 Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.39 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
address seperator
Morning Syafril Hermansyah, J but I wouldn't know why our versions are different in this J respect... anybody else for trying it out? What happen if you put the addresses manually separate by comma ? This is no problem, I can even mix commas and semicolons. I just sent a message to several of my addresses, all okay... But semicolon is still automatically inserted. -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 Build A AIM jasticle:... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]
Morning Syafril Hermansyah, A correction to the other message I sent before trying things out correctly: TB *does* use only commas when sending out, even if you enter semicolons manually or automatically :-) -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 Build A AIM jasticle:... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Leif,
Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!?
Cause you're a strange guy with too much time? ;-) Anyway,
congratulations, most are blind for the obvious...
Nico
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Re: Beta/3 with PNG support
Morning Dirk Heiser, but the png images are not shown on the tabs on the bottom of the message like gif and jpg images. Bug? I just added a PNG image to a mail. I got a tab, no problem, check again :-) -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 Build A AIM jasticle:... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Looking for an older TB version ?!
Hello TB friens, anytime I saw a mail looking for an older version of The Bat!. Yes, I've still had one (v. 1.34a), as silence reserve ;-) But why do you not ask Stefan Tanurkov ?! Best regards Wielandmailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available - Using The Bat! 1.39 «» Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hi Leif, LG That Phil guy is a strange character. ... LG Reverse line: LG Bad Phil He acts like a defiant child. Lets close this thread. -- Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
Thursday, February 03, 2000 Hi folks, An email with attached zip file was sent to me - to my email address at work, which I've downloaded through TB at home. However, since I'm having "Leave message on server" option in TB so that I can get messages when I come to work as well, I'm wondering if TB is then leaving the attached file on the server as well - and downloads only the message text ? The only way I knew that the file was attached was because the sender was reffering to it in his message. When I came to work this morning, the file was fetched from my server with the attached zip file - without any problems. I don't have TB installed at work, I'm using Outlook 98 on my NT machine NT 4.00.1381 with IE 4.04.722106.8 and 64 MB RAM ) -- Kind regards, Homesick Mac http://www.homesickmac.com My system: Celeron 433 , 64 MB RAM, S Trio graphics, 10 GB HD Windows 98 second edition or Litestep In the background I've got: PC-Cillin 6.07, Ram Page, Zip Magic 2000 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
you probably have size limit set on downloaded messages (in the bat! i mean) look account|properties|mail management and look at the setting "receive header only if greater than x" -Original Message- From: Homesick Mac [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2000 10:10 To: TheBat list Subject:Zipped file wouldn't come to me... Thursday, February 03, 2000 Hi folks, An email with attached zip file was sent to me - to my email address at work, which I've downloaded through TB at home. However, since I'm having "Leave message on server" option in TB so that I can get messages when I come to work as well, I'm wondering if TB is then leaving the attached file on the server as well - and downloads only the message text ? The only way I knew that the file was attached was because the sender was reffering to it in his message. When I came to work this morning, the file was fetched from my server with the attached zip file - without any problems. I don't have TB installed at work, I'm using Outlook 98 on my NT machine NT 4.00.1381 with IE 4.04.722106.8 and 64 MB RAM ) -- Kind regards, Homesick Mac http://www.homesickmac.com My system: Celeron 433 , 64 MB RAM, S Trio graphics, 10 GB HD Windows 98 second edition or Litestep In the background I've got: PC-Cillin 6.07, Ram Page, Zip Magic 2000 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
(No Subject)
Thursday, February 03, 2000 Hi again folks, This was meant to be my next question, or maybe the answer to my previous one "Zipped file wouldn't come to me": - How do you send a zipped file with TB ? Each time I tried and clicked on the zipped file, another window came up with the contents of my zipped file and got attached to the message, not the whole zipped file. Maybe the thing is that I'm using Zip Magic 2000 ( I don't know why anymore because Zip Central is more than enough for what I need... I guess because I paid for it g ), anyway, Zip Magis is treating zipped files like folders, so it might be that. Any suggestions ? -- Kind regards, Homesick Mac http://www.homesickmac.com Homesick Mac My system: Celeron 433 , 64 MB RAM, S Trio graphics, 10 GB HD Windows 98 second edition or Litestep In the background I've got: PC-Cillin 6.07, Ram Page, Zip Magic 2000 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]
Hi there! On 3 Feb 00, at 16:57, Tony Boom wrote about "Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME..": (speaking about address separator: it should be comma, not semicolon by RFCs) J anybody else for trying it out? Just tried it here, definitely a semi colon! Yup... Then this bug is not fixed yet;-( Considering the other message here that said "TB is replacing semicolons with commas upon sending messages" (I accidentally deleted the message upon reading;-() -- I see no reason why shouldn't it *display* separator as comma when adding the addresses from addressbook, then? All in all, I'd say it's a bug... RFCs should really be respected, do not act like M$, please;-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Walk through doors, don't crawl through Windows. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hi there! On 3 Feb 00, at 20:27, Dieter Hummel wrote about "Re: Anybody else notice?": I know why I installed more than 40 killfilters for this list... My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal their real names. This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias. You can bet, I can live with less messages. Then, *hopefully*, you're still reading this one;-) Or should be, since this is my _real_ full name;-) But what if I called myself "Vladimir V. Putin" or whatever here? How would you know that it's not my real name?;-)) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Your reality check just bounced. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:27:44 +0100, Dieter Hummel wrote: I know why I installed more than 40 killfilters for this list... My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal their real names. This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias. But that's almost the entire list subscribership. :) You can bet, I can live with less messages. Yes, you'll certainly be getting less messages. How do you follow threads? GOK's (God only knows) if I'll get an answer to this one. Probably I'm among the 40. :( -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** "Don't be so humble, you're not that great." - Golda Meir ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:27:44 , Dieter scribbled:
DH My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal
DH their real names.
DH This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias.
Wha ? ?
Angel isn't my real name FYI. But it HAS been by nickname for the longest time.
I "personally" don't "hide", I made the CHOICE NOT to release my real name to just
any Tom, Dick, or nickname. I am not paranoid, but the internet IS the internet.
It is and will not ever be 100% secure. And I am sure I am not the only one who feels
this way, nor will I be the last, and I've been "burned" before. Once burned twice
shy, nothing to
hold against me either.
Yes, this list IS a legit and good one but: I found your comments were rude and
uncalled for regarding
your prejudice againt people on this list who do not use their real name.
You may just be missing out on some very informative stuff and useful information from
these people.
You see, just because I choose to use a nickname instead of my real one doesn't mean I
have
less to offer or that I am wasting anyones time.
You want my real name? This is the internet..so get to know me..let me get to know
you. When
*I* feel comfortable with you, you might know my name. Otherwise, this is a LIST, on
the INTERNET,
no one person really gets to "know" EVERYone, so I prefer to use my longtime nickname.
So I proudly introduce myself:
I am Angel. Greetings to those who are new to the list, nice to see you here..
and a *wave* to those who have already "read" me.
And if the fact I don't use my real name on this list goes against list rules? I am
sorry..
I'll resign from it. :(
Apologies for the long post, or if it offended anyone or got anyone angry. I just had
to say
something in defense of myself (and possibly others..) seeing as how we are treading
these waters.
I'm not hiding, I'm not "out for anything", I'm here to read and learn and possibly on
occasion
help regarding the best email program out there IMPO. That's all :D
Regards,
~~~Angel ...your RDR
Thursday, February 03, 2000 14:05:38
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I am writing messages to mailing lists in what I think is plain texts. But they come back in HTML. Not all of them, but some. How can this be? Best regards, Julio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
take a look at this article it may help, or give some background -Original Message- From: Homesick Mac [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2000 10:10 To: TheBat list Subject:Zipped file wouldn't come to me... Thursday, February 03, 2000 Hi folks, An email with attached zip file was sent to me - to my email address at work, which I've downloaded through TB at home. However, since I'm having "Leave message on server" option in TB so that I can get messages when I come to work as well, I'm wondering if TB is then leaving the attached file on the server as well - and downloads only the message text ? The only way I knew that the file was attached was because the sender was reffering to it in his message. When I came to work this morning, the file was fetched from my server with the attached zip file - without any problems. I don't have TB installed at work, I'm using Outlook 98 on my NT machine NT 4.00.1381 with IE 4.04.722106.8 and 64 MB RAM ) -- Kind regards, Homesick Mac http://www.homesickmac.com My system: Celeron 433 , 64 MB RAM, S Trio graphics, 10 GB HD Windows 98 second edition or Litestep In the background I've got: PC-Cillin 6.07, Ram Page, Zip Magic 2000 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:09:48 +0100, Homesick Mac wrote:
{...snip...}
The only way I knew that the file was attached was because the sender was
reffering to it in his message.
When I came to work this morning, the file was fetched from my server with
the attached zip file - without any problems.
I don't have TB installed at work, I'm using Outlook 98 on my NT machine
NT 4.00.1381 with IE 4.04.722106.8 and 64 MB RAM )
I see that you're running Zip Magic. The Bat! doesn't work
well with it. There's an exclusion list that Zip Magic provides. Add
TB! to the exclusion list.
You see, Zip Magic works a bit too well. What it does is fool
Windows into thinking that zipped archives are actual folders. You
cannot attach folders using TB! (or any mailer for that matter). The
Bat! sees zipped archives as folders with Zip Magic's virtual folder
interface enabled and this is the problem. You'll encounter the same
problem when trying to ftp stuff, so include any ftp clients in the
zip magic exclusion list as well.
Mijenix does have software that does some nice things but they
have two problems. Their software is buggy and also are becoming
distressingly monolithic. I have since uninstalled zipmagic. I've
found that it's best to just keep things simple.
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RE: Anybody else notice?
can we stop this thread now please? there seems to be alot of off topic stuff on this list . It is SUPPOSED to be about The Bat! I have posted a question and never received an answer, although if I had it would probably be swamped by all this c**p. BTW I have nothing against you Angel, this is not a personal attack or criticism :-) -Original Message- From: Angel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2000 11:31 To: Dieter Hummel Subject:Re: Anybody else notice? On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:27:44 , Dieter scribbled: DH My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal DH their real names. DH This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias. Wha ? ? Angel isn't my real name FYI. But it HAS been by nickname for the longest time. I "personally" don't "hide", I made the CHOICE NOT to release my real name to just [Nick Rout] [balance omtitted, you all have it anyway..] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
Hello Nick, On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:55:25 GMT +1300 (which was 2:55 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: take a look at this article it may help, or give some background What article were you referring to? The link or the file didn't come through on this end. Also, what is the template you are using for your reply? Is it something similar to the following? ===8==Original message text=== From: %OFromName %OFromAddr To: %OToName %OToAddr Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn Subject: %OSubj %Text ===8===End of original message text=== If so, could you please change %Text to %QUOTES? It makes reading your replies a little easier, especially since TB displays quoted text in a different colour to normal text. Thanks. ^ (Yes, that is supposed to be there.) :) -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Listmembers, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 at 17:33:16 [GMT -0500] Allie Martin wrote: But that's almost the entire list subscribership. :) Oh, no. You can bet, I can live with less messages. How do you follow threads? Just like you - except that there may be some deep holes :-) GOK's (God only knows) if I'll get an answer to this one. Probably I'm among the 40. :( Don't feel unread, Allie. I'm watching you :-) Regards Dieter |Running TheBat! 1.41 Beta/3 [2E7F60DA] on | |Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 | Registering The Bat! [German] the easy way: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg -- Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD93DC23F -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
Hello, Gothamites, Nick Rout wrote... NR can we stop this thread now please? there seems to be alot of off topic NR stuff on this list . Yes, and if we were using Forte Agent or Datula we could mark the thread as Ignore and all subsequent messages in this thread would automatically be marked as read. Given that digressive or uninteresting threads are an inevitable part of any mailing list, don't you think this would be a good feature to add to The Bat! as well? It's much easier than trying to get everybody to change their behavior. That has never worked and will never work. -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://wonmug.com The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 Windows NT 4 Build 1381 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:37:48 +0900, John De Hoog wrote: Yes, and if we were using Forte Agent or Datula we could mark the thread as Ignore and all subsequent messages in this thread would automatically be marked as read. Given that digressive or uninteresting threads are an inevitable part of any mailing list, don't you think this would be a good feature to add to The Bat! as well? It's much easier than trying to get everybody to change their behavior. That has never worked and will never work. Exactly!!! That's why Nick's rant is so futile. It's like cursing the sun for being hot and demanding that it stop doing so (sounds ridiculous but I can't think of a better analogy). Get a sunscreen .. In the same way I delete threads and messages and this is why newsreaders are designed the way that they are. :)) -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Iraqi Bingo B-52..F-16..A-10.. F-18..F-117..B-2 ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:45:38 -0700, Keith Russell wrote: That's certainly one way. Personally, I just right click on the icon and uncheck "Show Zip folders" (I'm using ZipMagic 2000, BTW). In fact, if I'm loading ZipMagic at startup, I have it start up disabled. Then I only enable it when I need it. It works very well that way, and I don't have the kind of problem Homesick reported The Bat! doesn't need virtual zipped folder support. Can you think of a reason why? Then why waste time disabling "Show zip folders" each time. Just include TB! and any other similar app in the exclusion list and you *almost* never have to do any disabling as it was with me. Buggy? I haven't found that. Of course the track record tends to vary with people. Zip Magic was causing all kinds of strange problems with explorer in NT here. They were subtle and it took me a while to detect that zip magic was the culprit. I'm happy that you haven't found any bugs. Monolithic? What do you mean. A case of 'creeping featuritis'. :)) I've been more than happy with ZipMagic. It was well worth the investment. So I felt initially. I've since started using WinRAR. Much less headaches. :( I guess we are digressing and may be boring the list. If you wish for me to elaborate on the problems I had with it, I'm willing to discuss privately. :) -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Angel, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 at 14:31:28 [GMT -0800], you wrote: A And if the fact I don't use my real name on this list goes against A list rules? I am sorry.. I'll resign from it. :( Aack! I wish people would stop saying that. If you didn't see the rule in the subscription receipt, then rest assured that we're not going to pounce a new one on you just because. I'm sure they will evolve over time, but so far the basic rules have served us very well. There are no rules against using nicknames (provided that they aren't offensive.) I've been on mailing lists and discussion boards since the mid '80s (BBSs before the Internet of course), and nicks (or handles) have almost always been acceptable. There were a few BBSs and UDLs I've been on that banned them, but TBUDL and TBBETA are not one of them. Just because a person does not choose to divulge their real name on the Internet, doesn't mean they have something to hide (other than their privacy.) To some people, privacy is very important. It's their right to keep their names private. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: "Body by Fisher -- brains by Mattel." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Zipped file wouldn't come to me...
Hi Allie,
On Thursday, February 03, 2000, 5:26:53 PM, you wrote about "Zipped
file wouldn't come to me...":
A On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:09:48 +0100, Homesick Mac wrote:
A {...snip...}
A Mijenix does have software that does some nice things but
A they have two problems. Their software is buggy and also are
A becoming distressingly monolithic. I have since uninstalled
A zipmagic. I've found that it's best to just keep things simple.
Allie, I have done the same thing for the same reasons. Went back to
WinZip.
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Upgrading question
Hello friends,
someone asked me so to be sure I'll ask you, too: Are there any known
problems when upgrading from version 1.34a to 1.39?
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Re: Outgoing messages in HTML (!)
Hello Julio,
I am writing messages to mailing lists in what I think is plain
texts. But they come back in HTML. Not all of them, but some. How
can this be?
Some mail(ing list) servers tend to be very clever and reformat your
messages. They cut out header lines that they think you won't need
anymore, they change the encoding (e.g. to HTML) and so on... :-(
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 01:29:17 +0100, Nico Schirwing wrote: someone asked me so to be sure I'll ask you, too: Are there any known problems when upgrading from version 1.34a to 1.39? No. :) -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** I'm no stranger, just a friend you haven't met... ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Outgoing messages in HTML (!)
Hi there! On 3 Feb 00, at 17:34, Julio Juncal wrote about "Outgoing messages in HTML (!)": I am writing messages to mailing lists in what I think is plain texts. But they come back in HTML. Not all of them, but some. How can this be? This cannot be;-) TB never sends HTML, unless you manually attach HTML file to an empty message. There might be two reasons for your messages coming back in HTML that I can think of: (i) the list software is set up to do so. It's simple indeed: just replace "text/plain" string in the headers with "text/HTML" and then enclose all the message body in: htmlpre /pre/html and that's all... (ii) are you referring to your *own* messages when telling that they come back in HTML? Maybe you mean, that it's the _replies_ that you get in HTML? Then it's pretty likely to happen: there are usually some LookOut users about everywhere;-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Tilting at windmills hurts you more than the windmills. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello, First let me set up the scene. My Dad sends out one message to lots of people at once, mostly family. When I get these messages, I like to see who he has sent the messages to, and often, I want to add one or two addresses to my address book. Currently I have to use the show kludges command to see all the recipients properly. I have the Show Header option set to show everything except X-sender and mailer. What I was wondering is, would it be possible for TB! to offer a drop down list of the people in the To, CC and BCC fields? I don't know of any mailer that handles this part very well. Now for an example. Suppose I get a message that has the To field To: Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED],Januk2 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Januk3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I want to do is to see the message, and in the header window of the preview pane, see a drop down list next to the To: field. Then I could click on it to display Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Januk2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Januk3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From there I could select one of these names and addresses and I would be offered a menu that allows me to select one, add it to my address book, send a message, and perhaps some other common options that I have missed. Now do the same thing for CC: and BCC: What do others think? -- Thanks, Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:49:26 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
{...snip...}
From there I could select one of these names and addresses and I
would be offered a menu that allows me to select one, add it to my
address book, send a message, and perhaps some other common options
that I have missed. Now do the same thing for CC: and BCC:
What do others think?
You do realize, don't you, that if you place the cursor over
any address in the headers and hit the right mouse button that a popup
list will appear offering you to do various things using that
particular address, including adding it to the address book? :)
The headers for mail sent privately is not cluttered as say
listserv headers. The list of CC'd e-mail addresses are usually quite
readily seen to scan them and do what you wish with particular
addresses. I do that all the time.
All that I'm getting at is that IMHO, the functionality for
that which you want to do is already there. I don't see the need to
implement it in another fashion. ;-/
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Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
On Thursday, February 03, 2000, Allie Martin wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:37:48 +0900, John De Hoog wrote: Yes, and if we were using Forte Agent or Datula we could mark the thread as Ignore ... Given that digressive or uninteresting threads are an inevitable part of any mailing list, don't you think this would be a good feature to add to The Bat! as well? It's much easier than trying to get everybody to change their behavior. That has never worked and will never work. Exactly!!! That's why Nick's rant is so futile. Even if we could mark threads Ignore, it would still be nice not to have to download so many messages, most of which have little or nothing to do with the list purposes (mea culpa, too, sometimes). I agree that you can't stop the tendency to digress, but a reminder once in awhile helps to curb the tendency and keep it from getting totally out of control. It's like cursing the sun for being hot and demanding that it stop doing so (sounds ridiculous but I can't think of a better analogy). Get a sunscreen .. In the same way I delete threads and messages and this is why newsreaders are designed the way that they are. :)) Yes, but TB is not a news reader. You want it to act like a news reader, but do you know another mailer that does that does also have news reading capabilities? I'm leery of adding these news-reader-like features before TB does and does well what a mailer should. In the meantime, anyone can filter to Trash any thread by subject. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
Hello, inhabitants of Gotham, Paula Ford wrote... PF TB is not a news reader. You want it to act like a news reader, PF but do you know another mailer that does that does also have news PF reading capabilities? I'm leery of adding these news-reader-like PF features before TB does and does well what a mailer should. Ah, but mailing lists are so much like news groups that some news reader-like features would be welcome sometimes in a mailer. PF In the meantime, anyone can filter to Trash any thread by subject. That's SO much more difficult than a single-key operation for ignoring a thread. Having to create a subject filter for each wandering thread is overkill, wrong tool for job, you get the picture. -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://wonmug.com The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 Windows NT 4 Build 1381 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
OT:NT Sendmail: anyway to make it require login?
Friday, February 04, 2000 Hello Bat-users, any idea how under NT server one can force log-in to smtp with password? The Bat supports sending with password, I just need to know what sits on the other side which does it.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:19:01 -0500, Paula Ford wrote: Even if we could mark threads Ignore, it would still be nice not to have to download so many messages, most of which have little or nothing to do with the list purposes (mea culpa, too, sometimes). That's the weakness of mailing lists. :( I agree that you can't stop the tendency to digress, but a reminder once in awhile helps to curb the tendency and keep it from getting totally out of control. I guess. ;-/ Yes, but TB is not a news reader. You want it to act like a news reader, but do you know another mailer that does that does also have news reading capabilities? I'm leery of adding these news-reader-like features before TB does and does well what a mailer should. Don't get me wrong. I wasn't implying that TB! should be given newsreading functionality. I was just saying that newsreaders are very well developed in streamlining functionality where news posts are concerned for the simple reason that almost no one will be interested in everything that's posted to a group and yet they can't simply demand that only what they're interested in should be posted. I simply never work myself up about it actually. The delete key is my friend, that's all. In the meantime, anyone can filter to Trash any thread by subject. Exactly !!! -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello Allie,
On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 20:11:02 GMT -0500 (which was 5:11 PM where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:49:26 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
{...snip...}
From there I could select one of these names and addresses and I
would be offered a menu that allows me to select one, add it to my
address book, send a message, and perhaps some other common options
that I have missed. Now do the same thing for CC: and BCC:
What do others think?
You do realize, don't you, that if you place the cursor over
any address in the headers and hit the right mouse button that a popup
list will appear offering you to do various things using that
particular address, including adding it to the address book? :)
When you're *reading* mail? I just tried it and all it offered me was
the cut, copy, paste menu. If I Show Kludges, then I can do what you
say. But I'm trying to avoid using Show Kludges. In general they are
messy and much too much information for day to day viewing. I am
trying to save *some* screen real estate. :)
Plus if you just want to quickly scan the recipient list, there
currently is *no* convenient way.
The headers for mail sent privately is not cluttered as say
listserv headers. The list of CC'd e-mail addresses are usually quite
readily seen to scan them and do what you wish with particular
addresses. I do that all the time.
I don't know about that. The example I gave only had three addresses,
but I routinely get mail with anywhere between 10-20 addressees.
Beyond a certain number the current way is not the most convenient.
As I said, I don't know of a mailer that currently handles this any
better than TB, but it is a feature that I would like to see in some
form.
All that I'm getting at is that IMHO, the functionality for
that which you want to do is already there.
Not fully, see above.
I don't see the need to implement it in another fashion. ;-/
Maybe you still won't, but maybe now my meaning is a little clearer.
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Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello Allie,
On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 20:11:02 GMT -0500 (which was 5:11 PM where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:49:26 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
{...snip...}
From there I could select one of these names and addresses and I
would be offered a menu that allows me to select one, add it to my
address book, send a message, and perhaps some other common options
that I have missed. Now do the same thing for CC: and BCC:
What do others think?
You do realize, don't you, that if you place the cursor over
any address in the headers and hit the right mouse button that a popup
list will appear offering you to do various things using that
particular address, including adding it to the address book? :)
Have you tried doing that using the To line that is displayed when
you go to View-Message Header-Show and in that same menu, To?
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Hello All, Purusing a weekly e-mail newletter from CMPNet, I stumbled upon: 9. FILE MINE: The Bat! 1.39 ~ Tackle your e-mail communications with this powerful and highly configurable e-mail client. http://www.filemine.com/showJewel?id=201321 This is a glowing review. Good show! Go to the site and you can enter your rating. Let's get that "4" up to "5"! -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
On Thursday, February 03, 2000, Januk Aggarwal wrote: ... What I was wondering is, would it be possible for TB! to offer a drop down list of the people in the To, CC and BCC fields? GroupWise, which I am forced to use in the office, handles its address fields this way. It is a major pain in the butt. I find it much less cumbersome to deal with the way TB and most other mailers do it. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:57:47 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote: I don't see the need to implement it in another fashion. ;-/ Maybe you still won't, but maybe now my meaning is a little clearer. :) You were very clear actually. :) It was *I* who was not clear. Reread my message and replace 'headers' with 'Kludges' and that's what I actually meant. I have had to hit Shift+Ctrl+K on numerous occasions to view lines of CC'd addresses. The Kludges of private mail are just not that cluttered. A TBUDL message's Kludges is really impressive these days. ;-/ -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** We are upping our standards... so up yours. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:59:59 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote: You do realize, don't you, that if you place the cursor over any address in the headers and hit the right mouse button that a popup list will appear offering you to do various things using that particular address, including adding it to the address book? :) Have you tried doing that using the To line that is displayed when you go to View-Message Header-Show and in that same menu, To? Yes, I realize that, as you said, it will not show a lot of CC'd email addresses and that it will only show a few and end the list with a ''. I do also realize that a right click context menu doesn't have your desired options. It would be nice if it did provide the menu options.:) Additional drop down lists of addresses and such? Nah. :) -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Bad command. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaay! ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello Allie, On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 21:14:39 GMT -0500 (which was 6:14 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Yes, I realize that, as you said, it will not show a lot of CC'd email addresses and that it will only show a few and end the list with a ''. I do also realize that a right click context menu doesn't have your desired options. It would be nice if it did provide the menu options.:) Additional drop down lists of addresses and such? Nah. :) Well, ok, maybe a drop down menu isn't the best implementation. :) But there should be some better way to display the contents of these fields. Maybe some sort of auto wrapping in the "Header" bar could do the trick? As for the other features, that should just be a matter of reusing the code that already exists for the Kludges. -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: TB featured at File Mine
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Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:24:25 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Well, ok, maybe a drop down menu isn't the best implementation. :) But there should be some better way to display the contents of these fields. Maybe some sort of auto wrapping in the "Header" bar could do the trick? As for the other features, that should just be a matter of reusing the code that already exists for the Kludges. OK, you are now unto something. :) Both Agent and X-News have a feature that I think would provide you with your solution. They both allow you to view, in the body of your messages, aspects of the Kludges that may interest the user. IOW, they allow you to view a filtered version of the kludges. In Agent you have to do this via a simple ini file entry, and with X-news, you may set this up in the configuration dialog. Take for example X-News. I have set it up to display Kludge information in the message body using a different font and colour from that used by the message body. This is what it looks like: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven C. Den Beste) Subject: Re: Win2K and OS/2 (Seti@Home) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 Newsgroups: stardock.os2 Agent does the same but a line separator follows which makes it elegant. :) I have been thinking of making a wish request that the header information be placed in the message body text area with a line separator, for some time for two reasons:- a) At 1152x864, the headers are difficult to read on that headers bar. If the headers are in the message body area then it may be viewed in the same font as the rest of your message. Perhaps the font colour could be made to configurable as the quoted text colour is. Of course upon replying to messages, these headers will not be included. :) b) The information in the headers such as URL's or e-mail addresses will be context menu sensitive as you are desiring now. Of course, the disadvantage is that the headers will scroll out of site as you read which IMHO is not such a bad thing when compared to the benefits. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 «» Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** 2400 Baud makes you want to get out and push! ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Address Separator [Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]]
Hello Jast, On Friday, February 04, 2000 at 18:21:14 GMT +0100 (which was 04/02/2000 0:21 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: J A correction to the other message I sent before trying things out J correctly: TB *does* use only commas when sending out, even if you J enter semicolons manually or automatically :-) Good, that's enough for me. So TB! doesn't pop up "annoying error" as before. BTW. Since last week I am running Pegasus 3.12b, OE5, OL2000, Netscape Mesanger 4.71 concurrently (but all others in IMAP mode), to test new IMAP feature on my Mail Server, sometimes I sent message using one of them (which use comma separator), you know, it's real annoying if we must different standard for address separator in switching from one MUA to others. -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Friday, February 04, 2000, 9:41:39 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages (fixed!)
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Friday, January 28, 2000 at 20:37:45 GMT -0800 (which was 04/02/2000 11:37 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: JA they left TB running for more than 36 hours straight, then TB would JA stop checking mail automatically. Will do. I'll get back to you in another 36 hours or so. ^-^; JA Thank you. JA Just out of curiosity, about how much mail do you download in a JA typical 36 hours straight? The reason I ask is, the other person JA who complained about this bug was downloading upwards of 1000 JA messages a day. I'm wondering if perhaps The Bat encounters some JA upward limit on the number of messages downloaded in one session JA then decides to quit. This seems unlikely, but since there are so JA few people who can do this test, it would be nice to get as much JA information as possible about the conditions when the bug occurs. Januk, My PC have been running a week non stop, and no problem so far. For the record, since last Friday my TB! already download 12,971 messages (the top on February 1 = 2445 messages/day), and the largest messages I've try to download in one session is 7599 messages (91 MB size) as I reported couple month ago. I think the person who complaint about it using Win95/98 that have " a lot of *.tmp" problem as Keith and my PC at home. I will upgrade to 1.41 beta/3, so I need to exit from The Bat! :-). -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Friday, February 04, 2000, 9:51:27 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages (fixed!)
Hello Syafril, On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 10:16:39 GMT +0700 (which was 7:16 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: I think the person who complaint about it using Win95/98 that have " a lot of *.tmp" problem as Keith and my PC at home. Ok, so that just reinforces the importance of keeping up on your computer's housecleaning. :) I will upgrade to 1.41 beta/3, so I need to exit from The Bat! :-). Well, that's great. It appears that either it isn't a bug after all, or they've fixed it. Either way, that's good news for us users. :) -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages (fixed!)
Hello, inhabitants of Gotham, Januk Aggarwal wrote... JA Well, that's great. It appears that either it isn't a bug after all, JA or they've fixed it. Either way, that's good news for us users. :) OK, but there still remains another fairly serious problem in this regard, as I reported earlier. If a server is unreachable, The Bat! stays in the same Accessing mode and does not stop until you press Cancel. After you cancel, it won't resume auto-checking again until you restart the program. -- Yours, John De Hoog, Tokyo http://wonmug.com The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 Windows NT 4 Build 1381 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
Speaking of nice features of news readers that maybe would be nice to have in mailer - my news reader collapses quoted text when I press "Q". That's something I really like! :) -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Angel, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:31:28 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 5:31:28 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Angel wrote: On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:27:44 , Dieter scribbled: DH My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal DH their real names. DH This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias. Wha ? ? Angel isn't my real name FYI. But it HAS been by nickname for the longest time. I "personally" don't "hide", I made the CHOICE NOT to release my real name to just any Tom, Dick, or nickname. I am not paranoid, but the internet IS the internet. It is and will not ever be 100% secure. And I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way, nor will I be the last, and I've been "burned" before. Once burned twice shy, nothing to hold against me either. correct.. and more importantly the list is fully accesible via the web. On other lists I may use my name but may vary the firstname to my second, abreviations etc so that I can see where unexpected contacts come from. Same with email accounts. Some I only use for specific purposes. And in my own case several people on this list do know exactly who I am, where I live, what my name is etc etc. I just donot see the need or the purpose in broadcasting it over the net. Added, that with my work I prefer to use a nick. I use a different one for my PC and thats also rather well known so when I was experimenting with a trojan (and my firewall settings) a sudden visitor felt it useful to tell me I had a trojan. Quite funny as he reognised the system name... Yes, this list IS a legit and good one but: I found your comments were rude and uncalled for regarding your prejudice againt people on this list who do not use their real name. You may just be missing out on some very informative stuff and useful information from these people. Doesnt bother me, everybody can filter what he wants and as much as he wants. You see, just because I choose to use a nickname instead of my real one doesn't mean I have less to offer or that I am wasting anyones time. You want my real name? This is the internet..so get to know me..let me get to know you. When *I* feel comfortable with you, you might know my name. Otherwise, this is a LIST, on the INTERNET, no one person really gets to "know" EVERYone, so I prefer to use my longtime nickname. Its a nice one so who minds(g). I was given mine way before there was an internet. Loads of people know me by that nick and even good friends CALL me by it. Its like a second name after all these years Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
Hello John De Hoog, On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:37:48 +0900 GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 6:37:48 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, John De Hoog wrote: Hello, Gothamites, Nick Rout wrote... NR can we stop this thread now please? there seems to be alot of off topic NR stuff on this list . Yes, and if we were using Forte Agent or Datula we could mark the thread as Ignore and all subsequent messages in this thread would automatically be marked as read. Given that digressive or uninteresting threads are an inevitable part of any mailing list, don't you think this would be a good feature to add to The Bat! as well? It's much easier than trying to get everybody to change their behavior. That has never worked and will never work. I support that idea, is it in v2 Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:49:26 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 7:49:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Hello, What do others think? Sometimes I get an email addressed to a lot of people and getting the email addresses out is a pain. A better way would be useful Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: (No Subject)
Hello Homesick Mac, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:36:33 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 4:36:33 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Homesick Mac wrote: Thursday, February 03, 2000 Hi again folks, This was meant to be my next question, or maybe the answer to my previous one "Zipped file wouldn't come to me": - How do you send a zipped file with TB ? Each time I tried and clicked on the zipped file, another window came up with the contents of my zipped file and got attached to the message, not the whole zipped file. Maybe the thing is that I'm using Zip Magic 2000 ( I don't know why anymore because Zip Central is more than enough for what I need... I guess because I paid for it g ), anyway, Zip Magis is treating zipped files like folders, so it might be that. Any suggestions ? you are correct! It interferes with emailers/ftp and other programs Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Nick Rout, On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:27:39 +1300 GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 6:27:39 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Rout wrote: can we stop this thread now please? there seems to be alot of off topic stuff on this list . It is SUPPOSED to be about The Bat! I have posted a question and never received an answer, although if I had it would probably be swamped by all this c**p. BTW I have nothing against you Angel, this is not a personal attack or criticism :-) DUMP ZIPMAGIC Ooops (g) Sure this one doesnt get losy in that unmentioble stuff,,, I have seen the questions and the answers so just because it isnt about the bat it doesnt mean we donot read or answer you. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ignore thread feature (was: Anybody else notice?)
JDH Yes, and if we were using Forte Agent or Datula we could mark the JDH thread as Ignore ... Given that digressive or uninteresting threads JDH are an inevitable part of any mailing list, don't you think this JDH would be a good feature to add to The Bat! as well? PF Even if we could mark threads Ignore, it would still be nice not to have PF to download so many messages, most of which have little or nothing to do PF with the list purposes... I suppose you could make kill filters for the threads and just delete them from the mail server rather than downloading them, no? It's like cursing the sun for being hot and demanding that it stop doing so (sounds ridiculous but I can't think of a better analogy). Get a sunscreen .. In the same way I delete threads and messages and this is why newsreaders are designed the way that they are. :)) PF Yes, but TB is not a news reader. You want it to act like a news reader, PF but do you know another mailer that does that does also have news PF reading capabilities? I'm leery of adding these news-reader-like PF features before TB does and does well what a mailer should. PF In the meantime, anyone can filter to Trash any thread by subject. Filtering to the trash still requires download time. Unfortunately I have yet to find TB!'s filtering capability completely understandable. Agent was simple enough to set up filters, and you gave filters priorities and it would do its work, and its work wasn't restricted to the inbox or outbox. In TB!, whatever I try, it seems to either leave the messages on the server not downloaded, or it downloads them, filters them into the TB! folder, and then doesn't touch them again. Also, in the end, what I *want* is not to be able to create an elaborate filter with rules and sitting in my filter list for the rest of eternity, I want to mark this ONE thread "read" automatically, and when the thread dies and goes away, the "filter" would go with it. In other words, I may want to ignore "USE CTRL-F4 PEOPLE" for now, but in the future, if it came up again, it would be nice to have the choice at that time. SO, I want to mark read based on a references chain, not on a subject, not on a sender. Somehow marking a thread is the only way I can figure that would work. -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello Paula Ford, On Friday, February 04, 2000 at 23:04:10 GMT -0500 (which was 04/02/2000 11:04 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: JDH OK, you are now unto something. :) Both Agent and X-News have a JDH feature that I think would provide you with your solution. They JDH both allow you to view, in the body of your messages, aspects of JDH the Kludges that may interest the user... AM I have been thinking of making a wish request that the header AM information be placed in the message body text area with a line AM separator, for some time for two reasons:- How about in another pane (just like in reply editor which have 2 pane) ? That's more "consistent" with TB! style, IMHO. PF I made this feature request myself shortly after getting TB, because PF most mailers I have used or tried (except GW, of course) displayed PF or had an option to display to a short header at the top of the PF message itself. After all the time I've used TB, I still don't like PF the way it displays the header information. To me, it just takes up PF alot of screen space and, in general, looks clunky, but, more PF important, is Januk's point that there's no functionality to the PF thing. RIT added the ability to copy from the header display shortly PF after a round of discussion on the TBUDL, but it's still pretty PF awkward. I routinely deal with received messages that have long, PF complex kludges where I have to capture an address for some purpose PF that can't be done through templates. I would find it much faster to PF be able to work from a short header. Yes, "kludge" on TB! needs to better look. I like Eudora light style, we can see the whole header or some of them (I saw some bugs on Eudora Pro 4.2.x in this matter, all header consist with URL: not seen there). PF In any event, I think Januk has made a useful point that some easier PF way of capturing addresses from the headers to use in email messages PF or add to the address book or simply copy somewhere would be a PF worthwhile improvement. That's also OK for me. -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Friday, February 04, 2000, 12:16:07 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Mailers that support MIME digests [Was: Re: Digest Set-up]
Morning Alexander V. Kiselev, Considering the other message here that said "TB is replacing semicolons with commas upon sending messages" (I accidentally deleted the message upon reading;-() -- I see no reason why shouldn't it *display* separator as comma when adding the addresses from addressbook, then? All in all, I'd say it's a bug... RFCs should really be respected, do not act like M$, please;-) Well, with replacing semicolons on sending the RFCs are at least respected on the technical side... obviously a quick fix g -- .. Jast . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :with The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 http://www.zz-s.de :on Windows 98 4.10 Build A AIM jasticle:... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Friday, February 04, 2000, Januk Aggarwal wrote to Allie Martin on TBUDL about If I was creative there would be a good subject here: JA Well, ok, maybe a drop down menu isn't the best implementation. :) JA But there should be some better way to display the contents of these JA fields. Did you try address auto-view? Ctrl-Shift-O. JA Maybe some sort of auto wrapping in the "Header" bar could do the JA trick? It would be good, but... What to do if addresses will take so much space that it will no space for message itself? -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.39 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: If I was creative there would be a good subject here
Hello Oleg, On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 10:49:59 GMT +0400 (which was 10:49 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Friday, February 04, 2000, Januk Aggarwal wrote to Allie Martin on TBUDL about If I was creative there would be a good subject here: JA Well, ok, maybe a drop down menu isn't the best implementation. :) JA But there should be some better way to display the contents of these JA fields. Did you try address auto-view? Ctrl-Shift-O. Well, that is better than the Kludges, so thank you. But it is still not as convenient as it could be. Now if we could dock that toolbar on the window somewhere, that might do the trick, but you can not isolate what field the address was in. But that's relatively minor. It would be good, but... What to do if addresses will take so much space that it will no space for message itself? Scroll bars. :) -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Hotmail thru Bat! ?
Dear Batlist Is it possible to pick up email from Hotmail, using Bat!? -- Best regards, Stephen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Beta/3 with PNG support
Hi Jast, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:19:18 +0100, you wrote: J Morning Dirk Heiser, but the png images are not shown on the tabs on the bottom of the message like gif and jpg images. Bug? J I just added a PNG image to a mail. I got a tab, no problem, check again J :-) You have changed the List, why? OK sometimes i get an Tab for an png image, sometimes not. If the tab is there then i see the message text as an tab and as an icon also. That mean if i open such an message i get on the left side of the message the icons for the message text and the icons for the attached pngs. Under the message i get this tabs for the message text and the pngs too. If i have an message were the message text is _not_ displayed as an separate icon, i see only the icons for the png and _no_ tab. With gif and jpg images it work in _all_ cases. So IMHO it is a bug. BTW: we should move back to the Beta list with this thread. I CC a copy to the TBBETA, please answer there. cu, Dirk -- Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 (S/N 12A1F196 / Educational) under Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Help file: how to get a good one...
Hello listmembers, You all know that the English help file is less then perfect; OTOH the German help file is AFAIK pretty good. Should we ask for volunteers that speak both these languages equally good to translate the German one into English? Just an idea;-) PS. the idea described above is not mine, frankly speaking;-) PPS. I don't know German;-) Only "Hitler caput";-)) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: If it weren't for Edison, we'd be watching TV by candlelight. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
