V1.49
Since I upgraded to 1.49 (from 1.44), I find that the functioning of TheBat is much slower. Clicking on Account Filter or the New Message icon takes much longer than it use to in 1.44. Is that the case with everyone? Or it is just my system? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: I just want the filters to work
Hi Pasquale, first: please do not fullquote. ... Well as in the tortoise and the hare I will eventually get across the finish line. There is a nice tutorial about filtering on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/filtering.html -- Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Stadtallendorf, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://www.wolfgang-kynast.de/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How do I read in a file
Hello net5zero, Historians believe that Tue, 30 Jan 2001 at 04:55 GMT -0500 was when, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [n] typed the following: n How do I read a text file on my hard drive into my New message that I am n writing -- snip Edit - Paste from... OR %PUT="filename" -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I have an imaginary friend who refuses to play with me. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How do I read in a file
How do I read a text file on my hard drive into my New message that I am writing -- so that I don't have to open the text file, then copy and paste? I don't want to attach the file. Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How do I read in a file
Hello net5zero, (nnn == "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") [EMAIL PROTECTED] imparted: nnn How do I read a text file on my hard drive into my New message nnn that I am writing -- so that I don't have to open the text file, nnn then copy and paste? I don't want to attach the file. You can either include it in a template using (I think) %INCLUDE or %PUT (it's in the help file under 'Macros' or 'Template Macros.' The alternative would be to Edit - Paste From... -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49c, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: V1.49
Hi, Since I upgraded to 1.49 (from 1.44), I find that the functioning of TheBat is much slower. Clicking on Account Filter or the New Message icon takes much longer than it use to in 1.44. Is that the case with everyone? Or it is just my system? No problems here. Check the following: - any database files set to readonly (restored from a backup?) - do you regularly compress your folders? - do you regularly defrag your harddisk? -- Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Stadtallendorf, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://www.wolfgang-kynast.de/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! on Monday, January 29, 2001 10:46:09, our bat friend Brian Clark typed: BC This one smacked me in the face, too, a few weeks ago. ;) BC Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/ BC And everything should be back to normal. Thanks Brian, now, if i haven't already gotten it, i need som assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign? You see American and Swedish keyboards are different, so need to find out the right key. Thanks! - -- /Krister email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq: 902032 Obtain my pgp keys by sending a mail to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_pgp_keys Using The Bat 1.49 under Windows 98, V4.10, build A - -Sex is a disrobic experience -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOnacvDg5SXqDEzkLEQLKtwCfdTi8vKK22ZtWrTHe8DPQpBkhbpEAoOEs nYoJqW8hRDOTsCMtljMN+tYe =PpW+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Stripping e-mail addresses from messages?
Hello: I host a majordomo mailing list and receive frequent 'bounce' messages. I need to strip the bouncing address from the body (not header) of the message. Is their any macro that will do this??? Thanks, Ron Carson -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Stripping e-mail addresses from messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ron, On 30 January 2001 at 07:54:17 -0500 (which was 12:54 where I live) Ron Carson wrote and made these points: RC I host a majordomo mailing list and receive frequent 'bounce' messages. RC I need to strip the bouncing address from the body (not header) of the RC message. Is their any macro that will do this??? I'm moving this to TBTECH as a more appropriate forum to discuss these issues. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOna89znkJKuSnc2gEQJoYwCeO8zmi1+yBERZCCje+kE8Cj0dSWcAoOcd huYUq8MisKzb2izCpr0JXW6L =DZJ9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?
Hi, i need som assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign? KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7. I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-) On german keyboards it's ctrl-shift-alt-# - maybe this helps. -- Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Stadtallendorf, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://www.wolfgang-kynast.de/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
On 30-01-2001 at 15:13, Wolfgang Kynast kindly wrote: i need som assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign? KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7. I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-) No, not on *Swedish* keyboards, which is what Kirsten asked about. (I have a Swedish keyboard right next to me. I know.) - K - -- I've often thought that there should be beauty contests for the insides of bodies. - David Cronenberg: Dead Ringers -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Purge All Folders for all Accounts?
On Tuesday, January 30, 2001, at 8:08:46 AM, Dean wrote: D What works for me is to turn on the compress option for each folder I want D compressed when closing. snip D I will say *beware* in doing this. "for me" this process worked fine, until I D did a *defrag* on the hard drive. I literally lost everything. THe bat couldn't D find my posts, folders were there,but no posts. I want to be sure I understand this correctly: are you saying that you believe there is a problem defragging a hard drive with compressed TB! folders? If so, seems like something to be seriously concerned about. Has anyone else experienced this? Tony O.[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
(WK == "Wolfgang Kynast") [EMAIL PROTECTED] declared: KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7. WK I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press WK ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-) Another option *might* be to do it in the registry for a quick fix. Better make sure TB! is closed and make sure you backup your TB! folder and registry keys. I'd back up the whole HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT tree first. You never know what'll happen. I'm not positive that this is the registry key for this particular function, but look under: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! In the right pane, scroll down to "Simple Menus" and modify that value to 0 if it's set to 1. -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49c, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
small address-book bug
Hello Everybody, when there's no 'default'-addressbook set (where addresses go when you use the ctrl-w combo), the address isn't added to any address-book... to reproduce: - delete all your address-books from the list - re-add them, don't select a default - try to add an address using ctrl-w (or right-click/specials/add sender to addressbook) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * I do a lot of thinking in the john. Says a lot for my thoughts. Using The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 1 with an Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 96Gb Hd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
small export-messages bug something strange...
Hello Everybody, when you wish to export a single message, you can't select the 'desktop' folder (as in: the 'root' of the tree) further: my previous message (as does this one) had the line: 'hello everybody,' on top, but when I got it back through the list, that line the blank line following it were gone... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * People are always available for work in the past tense. Using The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 1 with an Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 96Gb Hd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: small address-book bug
On Tuesday, January 30, 2001, at 10:21:49 AM, Roel wrote: R when there's no 'default'-addressbook set (where addresses go when R you use the ctrl-w combo), the address isn't added to R any address-book... Personally, I think it would be nice to be able to choose "on the fly" which AB an address is added to. I find myself moving addresses from the default AB to another AB quite often. Tony O.[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Purge All Folders for all Accounts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, On 30 January 2001 at 10:07:57 -0500 (which was 15:07 where I live) Tony Owens wrote and made these points: TO I want to be sure I understand this correctly: are you saying TO that you believe there is a problem defragging a hard drive with TO compressed TB! folders? I believe that Dean is saying that after defragging his drive, the defragmentation process cause his message base files to become corrupt. A compressed TB folder as only a TB folder with the deleted messages removed. Nothing special. TO If so, seems like something to be seriously concerned about. I think a more pertinent concept would be concern about the defragmentation tools used. TO Has anyone else experienced this? There have been a two other reports of people losing all their data files after compressing. IMHO neither of these individuals lost their data *because* of the compression process itself. When compressing a large folder or a high throughput folder which has a lot of dead wood space, the file allocation system may be stretched. Any weaknesses there would result in an eventual failure in data somewhere. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnbfrTnkJKuSnc2gEQJMpACg4Xk/V8sMWRiJOZQe6sTEBfURvyAAn08L 49+uZjPS//WlrGEOugmQJPhO =kOvf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: small export-messages bug something strange...
Hello Roel, (R == "Roel") [EMAIL PROTECTED] drafted: R when you wish to export a single message, you can't select the R 'desktop' folder (as in: the 'root' of the tree) You can go down the tree to C:\Windows\Desktop, but, I agree, Clicking on Desktop at the top of the tree should do what is expected. R further: my previous message (as does this one) had the line: R 'hello everybody,' on top, but when I got it back through the list, R that line the blank line following it were gone... Not so -- at least, over here it came through just fine: R List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com R R R Hello Everybody, R R when you wish to export a single message, you can't select the R 'desktop' folder (as in: the 'root' of the tree) -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49c, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! v1.49 - vanishing email addys
Hello TBUDListers. Like most of you I have a default "My AB". All adds go to this AB. However, I also have a number of groups. I noticed today (actually yesterday) that the email addresses in all my groups remain intact while the email addresses for those names remaining in "My AB" no longer exist. A. I wonder if anyone has experienced this , if so, how you repaired the situation. B. I have a backup AB but it duplicates many of the entries in the groups. As I understand it, this duplication could confuse QTs so, aside from the obvious manual sorting deleting manually, does anyone have a suggestion for cleaning up my mess? Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
Hi there Marck, Going back 02:32 30.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: Personally, I have no need for IMAP. If you have real and complex IMAP needs, i.e. as more than a glorified POP protocol, then TB v1 is not going to suit you. I would love to hear from someone knowledgeable what TB IMAP support does and doesn't, because one of my mail providers forces me to use IMAP, POP3 is blocked ourside their LAN... Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
On 29 Jan 2001, at 20:35, Brian Clark wrote: Hello Andrew, (AH == "Andrew Hodgson") [EMAIL PROTECTED] conveyed: AH Other than the bats other rfc deficiencies, can we confirm/deny that AH tb supports imap in the following way: I don't use IMAP, but AFAIK TB! supports it (to what degree, I don't know). In account properties, one of the protocols listed is IMAP4. Yes, however I noticed the deficiencies I spoke of in my message, and just wanted to know if it was me or the program. AH P.S. For a real imap client, try Mulberry, Pegasus etc. What is this? Some sort of Troll? Why do people quarrel over MUA's and editors and browsers and operating systems. Just use what you want; who cares? Mulberry is the comparison :-) I hate the ui, however, the degree to which it supports imap is cool. Andrew. -- Sincerely, Andrew. Get Public PGP key from: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key ID: 0x16282F3D (RSA Key prefered) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: small address-book bug
Hello Tony, Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 10:33:45 AM, you wrote: TO On Tuesday, January 30, 2001, at 10:21:49 AM, Roel wrote: R when there's no 'default'-addressbook set (where addresses go when R you use the ctrl-w combo), the address isn't added to R any address-book... TO Personally, I think it would be nice to be able to choose "on the TO fly" which AB an address is added to. I find myself moving TO addresses from the default AB to another AB quite often. TO Tony O.[EMAIL PROTECTED] TO __ TO Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Anyone know the process for Importing an Address Book from Outlook Express? I am considering TheBat as a possible replacement to OE but the inability to import my large Address Book is limiting. Thanks! Doc -- Best regards, edocmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: small export-messages bug something strange...
On January 30, 2001, at 7:33:01 AM, Roel Wrote: R when you wish to export a single message, you can't select the R 'desktop' folder (as in: the 'root' of the tree) Do you mean when using the menu item "Message/Save as"? If so, I am able to save it to the desktop. Even if I use the right click menu "Save as", I am still able to save the message, in whatever format I want, straight to the Desktop, or any other Folder on my HDD. R further: my previous message (as does this one) had the line: R 'hello everybody,' on top, but when I got it back through the list, R that line the blank line following it were gone... No, then came through just fine here. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: small address-book bug
Hello edoc, On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:17:52 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'small address-book bug': edoc Anyone know the process for Importing an Address Book from edoc Outlook Express? I don't why you call this a but. I would say many of us went thru this process. Essentially export OE to some sort of deliminated (comma, tab) file then import into a TB! AB. Should work without much difficulty. Welcome to TB! -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: small address-book bug
Hello Jan, Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 12:33:32 PM, you wrote: JR Hello edoc, JR On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:17:52 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the JR following in regards to 'small address-book bug': edoc Anyone know the process for Importing an Address Book from edoc Outlook Express? JR I don't why you call this a but. I would say many of us went thru this JR process. Essentially export OE to some sort of deliminated (comma, JR tab) file then import into a TB! AB. Should work without much JR difficulty. Welcome to TB! I tried this several different ways without success. Anyone have a step-by-step method that does work, please? I get the names but not the E-mail addresses. I tried comma delimited and text type files. I tried a variety of manual edits to the files created using the Export feature of OE, still no success. Help? Thanks! Doc -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: small address-book bug
Got it! Thanks! OE Address Book is now in TB. Missed an unlabeled drop-down window in the Import process. Doc -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: small export-messages bug something strange...
Hello Roel, On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 16:33:01 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'small export-messages bug something strange...': Roel [...] when you wish to export a single message, you can't select the Roel 'desktop' folder [...] I don't why you call this a bug. You can "save as" to the desktop; at least, I can using Win98. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
info-request
Hello Everybody, does anyone have a complete list of all the available macros? (with or without explenation) ps: maybe a hint for the faq? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * I am in total control, but don't tell my wife. Using The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 1 with an Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 96Gb Hd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
On 30 Jan 2001, at 18:05, Johannes Posel wrote: Hi there Marck, Going back 02:32 30.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: Personally, I have no need for IMAP. If you have real and complex IMAP needs, i.e. as more than a glorified POP protocol, then TB v1 is not going to suit you. I would love to hear from someone knowledgeable what TB IMAP support does and doesn't, because one of my mail providers forces me to use IMAP, POP3 is blocked ourside their LAN... Ok, I used tb over weekend using imap support, and did not notice any difference between pop3 and imap. So basicly, no support for imap server folders, everything is downloaded from the root folder, if it is marked as read it is not downloaded from the server. If the delete from server option is checked everything is deleted as per pop3. This wasn't the design of imap, however, and so it didn't forfil my requirements. Andrew. -- Sincerely, Andrew. Get Public PGP key from: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key ID: 0x16282F3D (RSA Key prefered) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello Marck, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 15:48:25 (your local time), you wrote: MDP The bug description: MDP When using a system-wide hotkey or the mouse to access the ticker MDP to view messages, the ticker ignores input while the 'N new MDP messages' text is touching the LHS of the ticker. ^^^ Pardon Me For Jumping In, what is LHS?--- -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: small export-messages bug something strange...
Hi Jan On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:36:25 -0500GMT (which was 30/01/2001, 18:36 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: JR I don't why you call this a bug. because it should work :-) JR You can "save as" to the desktop; at least, I can using Win98. I can do that too, but if I wish to export multiple messages to the msg-format (read: about 250) (the unix-format allows 'desktop'), I'd have to select every message one by one... Now that would be a complete waste of time, not? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming, terrified, like his passengers. Using The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 1 with an Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 96Gb Hd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello Lija, (L == "Lija") [EMAIL PROTECTED] coined: MDP messages' text is touching the LHS of the ticker. L Pardon Me For Jumping In, what is LHS?--- Left Hand Side? :) -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49c, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: info-request
Hi Roel, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 18:58:14 +0100 you wrote: R does anyone have a complete list of all the available macros? R (with or without explenation) R ps: maybe a hint for the faq? Such a list exists, have a look at the help file under 'Message Templates'. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
Dear Andrew, Going back 18:29 30.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: This wasn't the design of imap, however, and so it didn't forfil my requirements. So basically TB uses it just like POP3. Well, to be honest, for me this is great, because this way I can circumvent the postmasters stupid idea of banning POP3 and enforcing IMAP. He gives no mbox max for IMAP, I think im gonna try this one day :-) Andrew. ThanksCheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[5]: small address-book bug
Hello Doc, On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:43:31 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'small address-book bug': edoc I tried this several different ways without success. Anyone have edoc a step-by-step method that does work, please? edoc I get the names but not the E-mail addresses. I can give you a step by step but what occurs to me is that when you are in the import process, TB! provides a mapping dialogue so you can match incoming info with the TB! AB. Take a special look under the "Address Book Field" see if eMail is set to "no". I think TB! may do this by default if this is not changed to "yes" manually, it will import all the other info but *not* the email addresses. That could explain your dilemma. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Help! where have all my menus gone?
Hello Wolfgang, On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, at 20:25:50 (your local time), you wrote: ACM One menu structure is more secure than the other in that the configuration ACM menu options aren't present. So in a multi-user environment it may be ACM useful. DG Ahhh, that makes sense now! Thanks for the reply! WK Some unpolite guys called it 'idiots mode' in the past ;-) :) Well, maybe it is 'idiot mode', but I also don't like it. It often makes confusion, especially when you have to bug with keyb. switching... -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
On 30 Jan 2001, at 17:33, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrew, On 30 January 2001 at 11:34:44 - (which was 11:34 where I live) Andrew Hodgson wrote and made these points: AH Mulberry is the comparison :-) AH I hate the ui, however, the degree to which it supports imap is cool. It has to be said that Mulberry is probably the paragon amongst IMAP clients. Though not user interfaces. Try using it for any length of time, you will find it isn't as easy as the bat, with complex dialog boxes appearing all over the place. Also, I hate those small windows (kinda like pmail) that pop up all over the place. I all fairness, the very ethos of full IMAP, with on-line folder structures, goes against the TB strengths in local mail-base. I can't see how TB can offer full IMAP support and still be the TB we all "know and love" with extreme filter, RegEx support and archive searching capabilities. This is probably the reason TB only offers it as a glorified POP3. I think that tb could involve imap support, but with eather online and offline mode. In offline mode, its just glorified pop3, but where message storage etc is an issue, you could use it in online mode, whereby messages can be manipulated throughout tb folders. One issue you could come up against though is where you have imap engines on the server processing rules to put certain messages into certain folders, it would be nice to specify different folders to look up in the bat. I will be posting a full list of problems we found with tb shortly. Andrew. -- Sincerely, Andrew. Get Public PGP key from: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key ID: 0x16282F3D (RSA Key prefered) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: More variants of TB! (was: Confirm imap support)
Hello Marck, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 17:33:20 (your local time), you wrote: MDP I all fairness, the very ethos of full IMAP, with on-line folder MDP structures, goes against the TB strengths in local mail-base. I can't MDP see how TB can offer full IMAP support and still be the TB we all MDP "know and love" with extreme filter, RegEx support and archive MDP searching capabilities. This is probably the reason TB only offers it MDP as a glorified POP3. I greatly agree with your point about TB "that we all know and love". I found myself in it, thanks. Actually, I use to ask myself sometimes why RIT doesn't make some variants of TB, i.e. TB Lite (limited filter functions, no regexes and only POP3/SMTP), TB "Profy" (for advanced users who need IMAP or some sort alike, more business-comfortable) etc. Perhaps, RIT will make them, but I frankly hope they will NOT! Maybe all of this sound stupid, but here on these lists we got topics like this one all the times... Some users are unsatisfied with Bat! and they need "this", need "that"... ugh. Sorry for off-topic. -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wolfgang! On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 at 3:13:42 PM you wrote: On german keyboards it's ctrl-shift-alt-# - maybe this helps. How about the numerical pad (just above the 8, the division sign)? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Es ist viel einfacher, Kritik zu ben, als etwas anzuerkennen. (Benjamin Disraeli) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOnb/5fTo1oA8g8dLEQJjiACgnLphPf0iKUAqYdDz7+VfbmXNDrEAmgJu tyW9SWNZLtlCrIB8hTZdGrkr =0UIL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The bat review
Hi All. This was given to me by Jim Hill, he created it some time back when testing out the bat with another mailserver. I see quite a few of these as cosmetic, but some of them do cause problems. -beginning of review- Starting with the simple things: The installation program is truly awful, complete with cryptic error dialogs (Error 03!) which don't seem to have any lasting effect if you press on through them. It's my practice to change the name of distribution exe files when testing (because I retain them in the same folder as the installation) to avoid any clashes with files extracted during setup but thebat complains that the distribution is corrupt if its filename is changed. The sig sep in the reply template is broken (missing trailing space) but the one in the new message template is ok. The default quoting scheme is ... JH This is what Jim Hill said. which is non standard and breaks the colour quoting of most clients, including Agent. If you send a message with attachments to tb it creates a new tab for each attachment, the first tab being the message body. No problem there and it's quite a good idea except that the default action when such a message is selected is to display the contents of the last tab, ie the attachment, instead of the first tab. That makes navigation unnecessarily awkward, imo. The macros (bit of a misnomer that because they're nothing more than simple placeholders, afaics, eg %FROMNAME inserts the sender's name into a message) are missing any mention of the Message-ID field which is a strange omission. Thebat's text handling, aside from some crazy defaults (are these guys Russian or Polish or something?), is pretty good, wrapping properly during editing and allowing long quoted lines to remain undisturbed. It's unusual to find those attributes in a mail client these days and it makes thebat very usable. The ui is also well presented. I had no difficulty finding my way around initially and it's very easy to change most of the defaults. The keyboard accelerators aren't quite as comprehensive as those in Agent and aren't as intuitive, eg Ctrl+Shift+K to display headers instead of H in Agent and Ctrl+F5 to reply instead of R in Agent, but at least most screen elements can be navigated without a mouse which is useful. The message ticker is a neat idea, creating the impression of a cut-out window on the desktop, but it's really nothing more than a cutesy idea with little functionality. What did surprise me, given the topic of this thread, is how poorly html messages are presented in thebat's internal viewer. It may be marginally more convenient to display attachments formatted inline but their presentation in tools designed for the job, ie ie5 or nn4.7, is infinitely superior. On the plus side, the text only view, accessed via Ctrl+tab, makes a very good job of displaying the html without tags. More serious matters: Thebat always creates a Return-Path header which is a fundamental misunderstanding of rfc 1123. The Return-Path header should only be added when *removing* a message from smtp, not when *inserting* a message into smtp. Thebat seems to add a number of gratuitous blank lines onto the end of its messages. This is difficult to check properly because the editor doesn't constrain the cursor to the text by default, making it difficult to detect unwanted whitespace. Thebat uses the dotted quad of its host (when in lan mode) in its helo argument ... | EHLO 192.168.55.2 instead of the configured host name required by rfc 1123. The hosts file on the test machine contains ... 127.0.0.1 laptop.jhc.org.uk localhost 192.168.55.2 laptop.jhc.org.uk so it could easily have resolved the ip address into a domain name if it had tried. | From: Jim Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Reply-To: Jim Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thebat adds a gratuitous Reply-To header by default. This should never be done if both From and Reply-To contain the same address. | X-Priority: 3 (Normal) There may be a way of getting rid of unwanted headers like this but I couldn't find it during my brief tests. | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thebat uses the domain of the server to which it attaches to create the rhs of its msg-id. This is considered bad practice because it increases the risk of msg-id clashes (but less of an issue in mail than in news to be fair). | In-reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice to see proper threading info being included in replies. I didn't test thebat's threading capabilities but it claims to thread via References which is useful. Note the capitalisation of In-Reply-To - untidy but not serious. | Mime-Version: 1.0 | MIME-Version: 1.0 The usual advice is to capitalise the first part of that header (as shown on the second line above) because some mime implementations (incorrectly) fail to register it otherwise. Probably of increasingly less importance as time goes by. Mail sending is poorly implemented, imo.
Re: info-request
Hi Lars On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:27:08 +0100GMT (which was 30/01/2001, 19:27 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: LG Such a list exists, have a look at the help file under 'Message LG Templates'. I just found it myself :-) my mistake :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * I may be fat, but your ugly - I can lose weight! Using The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 1 with an Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 96Gb Hd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: V1.49
Hello Wolfgang, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 11:30:29 (your local time), you wrote: WK No problems here. Check the following: WK - any database files set to readonly (restored from a backup?) PMFJI, you mean after restoring from a backup, all message files on the disk have read-only attribute? -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Zeros in kill filter
Hello TBUDL, When I drag filter from incoming mail to selective download, I get something like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are these zeros used for? -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
Hello Lija, (L == "Lija") [EMAIL PROTECTED] betokened: L This function switches lite/full menus... You don't have to do L this, 'cause keyb. equivalent is Alt+Ctrl+Shift+/ Yes I know. The reason I posted this is because Krister was having a problem finding the equivalent for that combo in a Swedish keyboard layout. See: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3rd in thread) -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49d, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Confirm imap support
Hello Johannes, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 19:46:59 (your local time), you wrote: JP So basically TB uses it just like POP3. Well, to be honest, for me JP this is great, because this way I can circumvent the postmasters JP stupid idea of banning POP3 and enforcing IMAP. He gives no mbox max This is very off-topic now, but I'm curios: Why should someone enforce users to use IMAP and ban POP3? -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filter logic
Can someone explain the logic used when using multiple 'AN'D and 'OR' filter strings? As far as I can tell, the alternative filter(s) does not seem to be associated with any particular 'AND' filter.I think Marck Pearlstone touched on this in a previous post, but I didn't really understand it. For instance, if I define two AND filters (say, A AND B), and a single 'OR' (alternative) filter, C, how is the whole filter interpreted: (A AND B) OR C? (A OR C) AND (B OR C)? or some other way? Tony O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Attachments in Moved messages
I'm trying to understand how the Bat! deals with attachments. I use 2 accounts, let's say AccountA and AccountB. Both accounts are configured to store attachments in a separate directory, i.e. \AccountA\Attach and \AccountB\Attach. If I receive mail in AccountA, the attachment gets copied into its \Attach directory. However, if I use a filter to move the message to AccountB, the attachment seems to get embedded with the message when the move is performed. I can then manually delete the attachment from the \AccountA\Attach directory. It's not a major inconvenience, but I wonder if there is a way to have the attachment moved to the destination account's \Attach directory? That way, I could access the attached files directly from Windows Explorer, e.g. over my network, instead of having to go through the Bat!. I realise that I could achieve this by just leaving the attachment in the initial account, but that way, would I not end up with 2 copies of each attachment in my message base, one separate file and one embedded? Regards, Keith Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 2:59 PM (ET) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: info-request
Hi Roel, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 19:40:32 +0100 you wrote: R I just found it myself :-) R my mistake :-) If you think about the general state of the help file it's not surprising that you didn't look for an answer there. :-) -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
Hi there Lija, Going back 20:35 30.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: This is very off-topic now, but I'm curios: Why should someone enforce users to use IMAP and ban POP3? POP3 logins are transmitted clear text, while IMAP are somewhat secured. Personally I prefer POP3-SSL or POP3 over SSH... Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Modern man is the missing link between apes and human beings. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The bat review
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrew, On 30 January 2001 at 19:08:06 - (which was 19:08 where I live) Andrew Hodgson wrote and made these points: AH This was given to me by Jim Hill, he created it some time back AH when testing out the bat with another mailserver. snip huge and largely out-of-date analysis You would do well to get v1.49 checked since most of the issues have been dealt with, Although I can't vouch for the intimacies of the server connection handling. WRT the statement you made that TB has a multitude of RFC deficiencies, I don't find that this review supports that statement. I would like to see what RIT labs would make of the analysis although until it is brought up to date (1.42 was nearly a year ago!) I doubt that it will be taken seriously. Also, it should be noted that *no* client software that I know of offers "an smtp server for receiving mail as an alternative to pop3" or "options to send via mx lookup instead of direct to smart host". This is functionality reserved for MTA, not MUA software. I am surprised that someone so obviously knowledgeable in the field would have insinuated otherwise. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnccUjnkJKuSnc2gEQJqwwCePzZkWAxSc9LNNFkMQeeCjrykqWoAni7c Vp2qZcZj+8xgn0RWx7bNCdg+ =Xxs6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter logic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, On 30 January 2001 at 14:57:44 -0500 (which was 19:57 where I live) Tony Owens wrote and made these points: TO For instance, if I define two AND filters (say, A AND B), and a TO single 'OR' (alternative) filter, C, how is the whole filter TO interpreted: TO (A AND B) OR C? Yes TO (A OR C) AND (B OR C)? TO or some other way? No. If you have 3 filters on the first page (A, B, C) and 2 sets on the alternatives pages (D, E) and (F) then the logic is: (A AND B AND C) OR (D AND E) OR (F). Is that any clearer? Just to obfuscate a little bit more, you *can* use '|' as OR in a signal string to allow even more complex constructs like: ((A|B) AND C) OR (D AND E) OR ((F|G) AND H AND (I|J)) Yeah - I know - I've gone too far now :-( ... sorry. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnclKznkJKuSnc2gEQIlHgCfZq020HcOEvxF+mm1zhNqj5UVChcAoP6M HiGEqxVS+i5g3bBpulPWSp3+ =H2Kz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter logic
Hello Marck, Sorry to jump in on this thread but On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 20:33:46 [ + GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Filter logic': Marck If you have 3 filters on the first page (A, B, C) and 2 sets on the Marck alternatives pages (D, E) and (F) then the logic is: Marck (A AND B AND C) OR (D AND E) OR (F). Marck Is that any clearer? Now I'm confused. I thought it would have been: (A B C) or (D or E or F) What happens if you 5 alternatives or more as I do on one filter? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter logic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 30 January 2001 at 15:55:01 -0500 (which was 20:55 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points: Marck If you have 3 filters on the first page (A, B, C) and 2 sets on the Marck alternatives pages (D, E) and (F) then the logic is: Marck (A AND B AND C) OR (D AND E) OR (F). Marck Is that any clearer? JR Now I'm confused. I thought it would have been: JR (A B C) or (D or E or F) JR What happens if you 5 alternatives or more as I do on one filter? Let me try and show you the same set first: On the first page is this _ |A_|??_|Yes___| |B_|??_|Yes___| |C_|??_|Yes___| and then, on the Alternatives, we have two sets _ |D_|??_|Yes___| |E_|??_|Yes___| _ |F_|??_|Yes___| That makes (A AND B AND C) OR (D AND E) OR (F). To get (A B C) or (D or E or F) on the first page is this _ |A_|??_|Yes___| |B_|??_|Yes___| |C_|??_|Yes___| and then, on the Alternatives, we have *three* sets _ |D_|??_|Yes___| _ |E_|??_|Yes___| _ |F_|??_|Yes___| JR What happens if you 5 alternatives or more as I do on one filter? If they're in a block they're all ANDed. If they're all separate, they're all ORed. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOncxVDnkJKuSnc2gEQIENgCgxMdTJ3lA/RO/eASR9Wz0cjSEYfQAoN9I 33wLy6VU0nEBiyhYgmc9cx/6 =Ko8j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Confirm imap support
Hello Andrew, AH On 30 Jan 2001, at 18:05, Johannes Posel wrote: skip Personally, I have no need for IMAP. If you have real and complex IMAP needs, i.e. as more than a glorified POP protocol, then TB v1 is not going to suit you. I would love to hear from someone knowledgeable what TB IMAP support does and doesn't, because one of my mail providers forces me to use IMAP, POP3 is blocked ourside their LAN... AH Ok, I used tb over weekend using imap support, and did not AH notice any difference between pop3 and imap. So basicly, no AH support for imap server folders, everything is downloaded AH from the root folder, if it is marked as read it is not AH downloaded from the server. If the delete from server option AH is checked everything is deleted as per pop3. Just try to use 'Dispatch on the server' option and you will enjoy access to on-line folder etc. When I used IMAP it was somehow slower than pop and didn't seem to be extremely stable though:( But you definitely cannot 'mirror' on-line folder structure on your local hard drive automatically I believe. Best regards, Serge Skorokhodovmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - vanishing email addys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 11:05:17 [GMT -0500], Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Like most of you I have a default "My AB". All adds go to this AB. JR However, I also have a number of groups. I noticed today (actually JR yesterday) that the email addresses in all my groups remain intact JR while the email addresses for those names remaining in "My AB" no JR longer exist. There is a check box under the general tab for each group that is labeled "Hide items if not explicitly selected" which really means "Do you want to view the names in this group only when viewing this group, or in the AB root as well?" The existing wording is confusing, but it fits better than mine does. Uncheck this option and the entries will appear in the AB root. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.49 running on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOnc75tkz/SR3Uv4yEQIo0ACeJ4y0XvjRedZDRw1t8eCRxq+LGEAAoJPn OVyeW5B3l0FW++wJQtIJXjKU =mIOW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirm imap support
On 30 Jan 2001, at 21:02, Johannes Posel wrote: Hi there Lija, Going back 20:35 30.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: This is very off-topic now, but I'm curios: Why should someone enforce users to use IMAP and ban POP3? POP3 logins are transmitted clear text, while IMAP are somewhat secured. Personally I prefer POP3-SSL or POP3 over SSH... Not strictly true, what happened to the apop support which tb supports? -- -- Sincerely, Andrew. Get Public PGP key from: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key ID: 0x16282F3D (RSA Key prefered) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - vanishing email addys
Hello Mike, On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 17:10:40 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - vanishing email addys': Mike [...] under the general tab for each group that is labeled Mike "Hide items if not explicitly selected" which really means "Do Mike you want to view the names in this group only when viewing Mike this group, or in the AB root as well?" Mike [...] Uncheck this option and the entries will appear in the Mike AB root. Could have fooled me! (In fact, it did) ;-) I always thought it had to do with the display of names when one selected the down arrow next to the new msg icon. So now I'm reorganized thanks to you. Appreciate it. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter logic
Hello Marck, On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 21:25:40 [ + GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Filter logic': Marck and then, on the Alternatives, we have two sets Marck _ Marck |D_|??_|Yes___| Marck |E_|??_|Yes___| I'm almost there, Marck. In the Alternatives, I've always assumed each was a separate criteria. If I understand this correctly, I could make a Rule that required A B C or (alternatively) required (D E) Set 1 or alternatively (H) Set 2 or alternatively (I) Set 3, etc. My question to you is how do I add D E on the same alternative set? I know "|" is or. What is "and"? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Confirm imap support
Hello Johannes, On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 21:02:20 (your local time), you wrote: JP POP3 logins are transmitted clear text, while IMAP are somewhat JP secured. Personally I prefer POP3-SSL or POP3 over SSH... You have also APOP in TB... it's up to your ISP if supports it... -- Best Regards, Lija _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter logic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 30 January 2001 at 18:15:33 -0500 (which was 23:15 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points: JR ... If I understand this correctly, I could make a Rule that JR required A B C or (alternatively) required (D E) Set 1 or JR alternatively (H) Set 2 or alternatively (I) Set 3, etc. Yes. JR My question to you is how do I add D E on the same alternative JR set? I know "|" is or. What is "and"? Secondary and tertiary ANDs are achieved with Alt-Ins (to add additional - aka AND - filter strings) within alternate sets. Create alternate set D then, when you have defined rule D, press Alt-Ins to create an AND slot for rule E. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOndm8DnkJKuSnc2gEQLhawCgzZXBKhqVkjgBLtkTW/hMfrkMNEYAnAme lI9UGb26NgsOY9UnZFAryX8D =Dx/Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter logic
Hello Marck, On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:14:23 [ + GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Filter logic': Marck [...] Secondary and tertiary ANDs are achieved with Alt-Ins Marck (to add additional - aka AND - filter strings) within Marck alternate sets. Create alternate set D then, when you have Marck defined rule D, press Alt-Ins to create an AND slot for rule Marck E. Sorry, I'm feeling very thick tonight. I think I followed your instructions: created a new filter created a new rule Added one Alternative Used ALT-ins Key (nothing happened) If it's really something simple I'm going to flog myself. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter logic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 31 January 2001 at 20:50:07 -0500 (which was 01:50 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points: JR Sorry, I'm feeling very thick tonight. I think I followed your JR instructions: JR created a new filter Yes. JR created a new rule You mean you filled in one rule on the actual "Rule" tab, yes? JR Added one Alternative You mean you: 1) selected the "Alternatives" tab 2) pressed the "Add set" button 3) filled in the first line of the first additional filter string Yes? (look under the "Add set" button. It says "Use Alt+Ins/Alt+Del to add/delete filtering strings" - that's what we're talking about here). JR Used ALT-ins Key (nothing happened) If you didn't do as I have explained above then it may not have worked. JR If it's really something simple I'm going to flog myself. No - please don't. I'm not up to the guilt feelings of being responsible for that amount of pain. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnd1eTnkJKuSnc2gEQKU8gCgl7QuxiT74AMy8sWLJLKuUlCtzN0An1P6 A5xjhqTQuZnIPwlqnFa/PVB1 =YzmA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Simple regex request
TBUDL, I hope that this request is simple enough that I can post here as opposed to TBTECH. I don't know much at all about regular expressions, but I'd like to request one that I can use with my reply templates. The default reply template uses %OFromFName as the greeting. What I would like to do is use the first name in my address book entry for the original author if one exists, otherwise go ahead and use the %OFromFName. Many thanks in advance. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Simple regex request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:03:45 -0800, Elden graced us with these comments: ...snip... EF The default reply template uses %OFromFName as the greeting. What EF I would like to do is use the first name in my address book entry EF for the original author if one exists, otherwise go ahead and use EF the %OFromFName. You don't need a regex for this. Use this macro: %ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME" It will look for the address book first name and use it. If there's no address book entry, then it will fall back on the original 'from' first name. The address book macros are explained in the help. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOneDB1fJ62ArBxfiEQKWrACg9dzP088W3n7A29tQh/szszbiFIEAn1uO zS4lnKGMrO1tTQ2WkUCuriYt =+AuC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Simple regex request
A., On Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 7:14:09 PM, you wrote: ACM You don't need a regex for this. ACM Use this macro: %ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME" ACM It will look for the address book first name and use it. If there's no ACM address book entry, then it will fall back on the original 'from' ACM first name. Thank you much. ACM The address book macros are explained in the help. Hmm, ok sorry for not looking there first. I have to admit, the whole logic of that macro you gave me is a little lost on me... so I don't know that the help would have been much help considering that I don't even understand the concept here. I've been a programmer for 20 years, and in my way of thinking this statement would cause the contents of %ABofromFIRSTNAME to be replaced with the contents of %OFROMFNAME. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Simple regex request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:28:48 -0800, Elden graced us with these comments: EF Thank you much. You're welcome. :=) ACM The address book macros are explained in the help. EF Hmm, ok sorry for not looking there first. That's not what I meant. I was indicating the documentation so that you have a look at all the other possibilities the address book macros offer. EF I have to admit, the whole logic of that macro you gave me is a EF little lost on me... so I don't know that the help would have been EF much help considering that I don't even understand the concept EF here. See above explanation. EF I've been a programmer for 20 years, and in my way of thinking EF this statement would cause the contents of %ABofromFIRSTNAME to be EF replaced with the contents of %OFROMFNAME. Agreed. :=) - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOneItVfJ62ArBxfiEQLBBwCeOmdZVtHtI7rSTFEJLn+8O/i5QkwAni/7 IVMkEy1H4/nAVawhkrCxtAbp =2f5f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The bat review
Hello Marck, Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 11:55:56 AM, you wrote: MDP offers "an smtp server for receiving mail as an alternative to pop3" MDP or "options to send via mx lookup instead of direct to smart host". MDP This is functionality reserved for MTA, not MUA software. I am MDP surprised that someone so obviously knowledgeable in the field would MDP have insinuated otherwise. Although, I would GREATLY appreciate a MUA that suppported mx lookup. I use free dialup providers when I'm on the road, and none of them have a SMTP server, which causes me great difficulty. As far "an smtp server for receiving mail", I can only assume that he is talking about a builtin POP3 SERVER, which allows incoming SMTP connections. I can't imagine how I would want to use that... but... doesn't TB have something similar with it's "The Bat! dialup server?" It's acting as a POP3(non standard I presume) server. BTW, why does my text indent automatically like it does in the above paragraph? I've noticed it with a couple other emails. Kind of obnoxious. -- Best regards, Silvermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Confirm imap support
Hello Lija, Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 11:35:57 AM, you wrote: L Hello Johannes, L On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 19:46:59 (your local time), you wrote: JP So basically TB uses it just like POP3. Well, to be honest, for me JP this is great, because this way I can circumvent the postmasters JP stupid idea of banning POP3 and enforcing IMAP. He gives no mbox max L This is very off-topic now, but I'm curios: Why should someone enforce users to L use IMAP and ban POP3? Probably allow POP3 on an internal LAN, but don't want people checking personal mail at work, or bringing in viruses/worms in school or something like that. The firewall admin probably forgot to block the IMAP port. -- Best regards, Silvermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
upgrade question
Hello bat folk!~ I just installed TB1.49 on a new computer I had previously been using 1.36 I fired up the new bat and it took my registration key just fine...all my folders showed up, but no mail! I have a copy of all my mail currently running on 1.36 on the other machine--will I need to export?? in order to see my mail in 1.49? And would that be for each and every folder or is there an easier way? thanks muchly for your help and apologize for just leaping in, but it's kind of an issue for me right now. Jyllian --- ^-^ o o ='= Http://www.pywacket.org Snakes and mice get wrapped up so nice With spider legs and pretty bows -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
