Re: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Roland Burger

Hi Jan,

on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:45:23 -0400 GMT (which was Wednesday, September
12, 2001, 02:45 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote:

 Hello Dominik,


 Dominik Judging this is difficult just because of
 Dominik totally different traditions.

   Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I
   feel for you, your country  your traditions.

Dominik is from Poland! I saw here in Germany also Polish television and
the commentaries there are like in the most countries of the world:
This has been the action of insane fanatics.

I'm sure that Dominik knows that the Koran don't plead for such
actions!

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Sorting Folder

2001-09-12 Thread Haye

Hello tbudl,

  How can i auto sorting folder

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Re: Sorting Folder

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Haye,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 15:29:57 [GMT +0700] (which was 1:59 PM where I live) you
wrote:

H   How can i auto sorting folder

If you click on the 'folder' it will sort the same.
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AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Fellow TB users,

After Marck's lecture I have been making AB templates and now have a query.

I  work  from  home  and hence the Machine  TB is also used by my wife. In the AB we 
have
e-mail address of common friends.

To  ensure  that I address my friends informally I created templates for them in AB. 
These
include my signature  the way I address them.

Now  when  my wife (who has a separate folder) clicks on any of the common friends, 
her id
is replaced by mine. She obviously has her own way of addressing and signing.

The question is how can I get a work around for the above.

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Re: Sorting Folder

2001-09-12 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Haye,

12. september 2001, 10:29:57, you wrote:

H Hello tbudl,

H   How can i auto sorting folder

If you want to sort folders, click on the Folder, New or Total
header in the folders list. If you want to sort messages in folder,
click on the appropriate column headers in messages list (Subject,
From, Created, ...).

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Re: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Thomas F

Hi Raj,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:41:39 +0530GMT (12/09/2001, 17:11 +0800GMT),
Raj wrote:

R Now  when  my wife (who has a separate folder) clicks on any of the common friends, 
her id
R is replaced by mine. She obviously has her own way of addressing and signing.

R The question is how can I get a work around for the above.

You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but
want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use
quick templates.

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Re: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:05:45 PM you wrote (at least in part):

R  Now  when  my wife (who has a separate folder) clicks on any of the common 
friends, her id
R  is replaced by mine. She obviously has her own way of addressing and signing.

R  The question is how can I get a work around for the above.

TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but
TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use
TF quick templates.

I don't think he needs QTs ...
Raj: are you using macros

%FromName  %FromAddr

in the templates?
If so your wife only has to be on it's own account with it's own sender data
and _then_ create the new mail.

If she replies she only has to do one single step _BEFORE_ typing _anything_
in the message body: Options / Active Account ... if _not a single
character_ has typed this far in the message the above given macros refresh
with the current values.

HTH Pit

P.S.: I do know this works, because I'm using nearly the same templates for
different accounts with above macros :-)
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Re[2]: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Thomas,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 18:05:45 [GMT +0800] (which was 3:35 PM where I live) you
wrote:

TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but
TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use
TF quick templates.

Yes  that  is  the case... I am the book keeper of the comp. Just wanted to check if 
there
was  some  way  where  using  Reg Ex I could call a template if the New or reply was 
being
invoked from the account which my wife uses. Else the regular template will be used.

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Re: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Raj,

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:44:31 PM you wrote (at least in part):

R Thomas,

R On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 18:05:45 [GMT +0800] (which was 3:35 PM where I live) you
R wrote:

TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but
TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use
TF quick templates.

R Yes  that  is  the case... I am the book keeper of the comp. Just wanted to check 
if there
R was  some  way  where  using  Reg Ex I could call a template if the New or reply 
was being
R invoked from the account which my wife uses. Else the regular template will be used.

Create two QTs, both named _exactly_ like the accounts.
Insert

%QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME

in New/Reply Template
Maybe you want to extend it to

%QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new

for new mails and

%QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-re

for replys.

this way you'd need four QTs:
Assume the Account-names are Raj  Wife (silly, I know *g*):

QTs: Raj-new
 Ray-re
 Wife-new
 Wife-re

%ACCOUNTNAME should be expanded to 'Raj' or 'Wife' so the correct QT should be
_automatically_ included, w/o RegExp :-)
Otherwise there's of course still the possibilities I wrote in my other mail
(Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re[2]: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Peter,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you
wrote:

PP QTs: Raj-new
PP  Ray-re
PP  Wife-new
PP  Wife-re

PP %ACCOUNTNAME should be expanded to 'Raj' or 'Wife' so the correct QT should be
PP _automatically_ included, w/o RegExp :-)

I am a little lost. Can I trouble you for a little more detailed explanation.

Are you saying that these macros be used in the AB templates.

Basically  what  I  want  achieve using AB templates is  as  follows.

Now  when  my  wife (and she only uses her account) clicks on a new or reply message - 
The
template she wants will be used.

In all other cases the template I want will be used for that id.

Ideally I would like organize it so that the templates come up automatically.

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Re[2]: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Peter,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you
wrote:


PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME

PP in New/Reply Template
PP Maybe you want to extend it to

PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new

Thanks - After reading a few times got what you were saying.

Thanks.

However  it does not work when I use %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new. In other words it 
seems
to  work  fine  as  long as the QT has the name of the account. Anything extra and I 
get a
blank template.

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Re: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello Thomas  others on this TB! list  following this thread,

Tuesday, September 11, 2001,  you stated regarding Terrorist Attacks:

TF Hi Douglas,

TF Yes, it has. You don't understand martyrdom.

Neither do would be Martyrs.

DH the backlash will be profound and this may spell the end of
DH Their acts have made them become too visible, too destructive to
DH remain protected. They will be eliminated.

TF You scare me.

My work deals with sustainable development, Tom ( I think you knew
that). What I foresee is simply logical  highly likely. Obviously,
those responsible must be identified  as I suspected, someone in
one of the planes did manage to contact her husband via cel phone,
so that will probably happen. This might turn out to be another JFK
type affair, but that one too was delved into by many competent
( some less so) investigators  if US hawks were involved, that too
will come out.

My main point is simple: When a tragedy or crisis occurs, some don't
react  some overreact. The important thing is to react
appropriately, which requires evaluating what has occurred  the
alternative scenarios, then making an informed ( accurate) decision

In the context of my own life, minimizing risks  dealing w/
hostility  (usually incongruent) true believers is an an everyday
thing, but I try to never lose sight of my original objective, which
to to help build a better and more life giving world.

Are US politics good for all? They're often not even good for the US
itself. Does that justify this kind of action? No way, never.
Violence generates more violence and sustainable ag development
emphasizes control over eradication (the Prohibition didn't work
either).

In terms of the original objective of this list, all this is really
OT so we should do it off TBUDL /or TBTech. I prefer private mail
( am not subscribed to TBOT) but don't have a great deal more to
say about this topic at this point. IAC, nothing more from me will
be post on list on this topic.

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Re: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Raj,

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 3:21:53 PM you wrote (at least in part):

R Peter,

R On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you
R wrote:


PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME

PP in New/Reply Template
PP Maybe you want to extend it to

PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new

R Thanks - After reading a few times got what you were saying.

R Thanks.

R However  it does not work when I use %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new. In other words 
it seems
R to  work  fine  as  long as the QT has the name of the account. Anything extra and 
I get a
R blank template.

have you tried replacing '-' with '_'? Or even let it blank and use
'%ACCOUNTNAMEnew' ???
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Re[2]: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Peter,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you
wrote:

PP Create two QTs, both named _exactly_ like the accounts.
PP Insert

PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME

Just ignore my previous replies. Very Very Sheepish Grin

Thanks for the wonderful idea.

Its working fine. Learnt some thing new

1. TB did not let me down.

2. Have more patience.

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Re[2]: Message-ID

2001-09-12 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Peter,

RO   Currently my Message-ID is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RO   Is it possible for TB to change the ID into something as
RO   weirdnumber.datetime@MyFullAddress?

PP What do you mean with 'FullAddress' ??? Full-E-Mail-Address? I hope you don't!
PP this would mean Message-ID containing a second '@' ... you don't really want
PP that, don't you?

Well, actually I meant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PP After all that explanation I still ask myself: What's your concern 'bout your
PP MessageIDs?

I'd like to use them for a  filter that sees the difference between
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Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello Douglas,

Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 7:56:41 AM, you wrote:

DH all this is really
DH OT so we should do it off TBUDL /or TBTech. I prefer private mail
DH ( am not subscribed to TBOT)


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Re: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Re: Message-ID

2001-09-12 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Roelof,

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 4:34:01 PM you wrote:

RO Hallo Peter,

RO   Currently my Message-ID is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RO   Is it possible for TB to change the ID into something as
RO   weirdnumber.datetime@MyFullAddress?

PP What do you mean with 'FullAddress' ??? Full-E-Mail-Address? I hope you don't!
PP this would mean Message-ID containing a second '@' ... you don't really want
PP that, don't you?

RO Well, actually I meant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well ... I actually don't think this as a good idea as the full stop is in
domain names the seperator for the host/domain hierarchical ... so
'username.domain.tld' is in fact the correct 'name' for a host named
'username' in domain 'domain.tld'.

PP After all that explanation I still ask myself: What's your concern 'bout your
PP MessageIDs?

RO I'd like to use them for a  filter that sees the difference between
RO replies on messages by me and messages by robots using my address.

Nevertheless, unless TB! does not allow altering / editing _all_ header fields
before sending (or at least does not allow to change the message id) you could
maybe use 'XRay' from http://www.xrayapp.com/ as this is a Windows-SMTP-server
(kind of) and able to handle with header fields routing through. I know it's
able to change headers, I don't know if it can _insert_ a port into a header
value or only replace/delete headers.
Maybe you want give it a try.

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Re: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Douglas,

On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 21:02:26 [ -0600
GMT], you wrote the following in regards to
'Terrorist Attacks':

Douglas [...] Inevitably, the pendulum swings
Douglas back. [...]

  Hard for me to find an appropriate line to quote
  from your extremely well fashioned comments in
  order to express my agreement.

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Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Yuki,

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 13:10:52 [ +0900
GMT], you wrote the following in regards to
'Terrorist Attacks':

Yuki [...] anything other than thoroughly
Yuki traumatizing both the perpetrators and the
Yuki societies that shelter them will stop this.
Yuki The cost needs to demonstrably outweigh the
Yuki benefit. Only then will the act not be
Yuki undertaken. Anything less than a
Yuki comprehensive and forceful response will
Yuki simply encourage further atrocities. [...]

  When you the President of the United States use
  the phrase acts of war, I think it is probable
  that what you say is already on the table. The
  only question left is who to direct it at.

  I can't help but believe that Afghanistan is now
  in the U.S. crosshair. Perhaps if will also be
  discovered that another country helped finance,
  organize or was involved in this horror.

  What you are now seeing is evidence of what the
  U.S. can do in a national emergency. The country
  was locked up in just a few hours. Borders
  closed, all planes grounded, military jets 
  AWACS flying over cities  security
  installations, the entire military world-wide
  placed on Delta alert, the highest possible
  before war.

  The only other time this country experienced a
  sneak attack was the attack on Pearl Harbor.
  Admiral Yamamoto, in charge of the Japanese
  attack force, when informed that the early waves
  of bombers were successful, is oft quoted as
  saying I am afraid we have awaken[ed] a sleeping
  giant.

  Even today what happened on Dec 7, 1941 is still
  referred to as 'A Day in Infamy'. And we know
  what happened then.

  What happened yesterday in New York  Wash, DC
  was worse.

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Re: AB Templates

2001-09-12 Thread Thomas F

Hello Peter,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:42:19 +0200 GMT (12/09/2001, 18:42 +0800 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but
TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use
TF quick templates.

PP I don't think he needs QTs ...
PP Raj: are you using macros

PP %FromName  %FromAddr

PP in the templates?
PP If so your wife only has to be on it's own account with it's own sender data
PP and _then_ create the new mail.

This would work only if both use only account templates, I would
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Re: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jan,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:13:38 -0400 GMT (13/09/2001, 01:13 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR Perhaps it is a matter of language but I can only repeat my
JR comment when someone explains that Palestinians cheering about
JR this tragedy has to be viewed differently because of different
JR traditions.

JR I don't buy this comment. I believe all people in all countries
JR are still people and as such should not cheer for the death of
JR thousands  thousands of innocent civilians.

I agree with you. Besides, Yassir Arafat condemned the attack, too.

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Re[4]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Dominik 'IronHand' Dalek

Hello!

As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:

But  tell  me,  was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans _do_ suffer,
but this is a major mistake, IMNSHO.
 But  Get  Your  Facts  Right  the US didn't bomb Kabul, it's a local
 battle not the US, at least not yet.

I  wrote it few minutes after CNN reported bombings. It took USA 7 min
to  say it wasn't their helicopters. At that time it was considered to
be a fast.

Best Regards
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Re[5]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Dominik 'IronHand' Dalek

Hello!

As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:

 Judging  this  is  difficult  just  because  of  totally  different
 traditions.
 Not  quite.  If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your
 country  your traditions.

No, it is not. Just think. First of all people showned on TV were kids
in  most. Second of all tell me, how do kids act when they see camera?
The make some monkey acts. That's fact. I didn't hear any anti America
slogans,  but  some  people tells there were some. Anyway, You can not
judge totally different people using Your measure. That's how Indians,
Astecs,  Inkas died... Different civilisations are always defficult to
understand.

What  You  consider  to  be  normal can be difficult to uderstrand for
foreigners.  And  vice  versa.  Islam  is  not an evil religion. It is
religion  of  peace.  But  there  are  some  insane  individuals,  who
interprete  Koran  in some different, mysterious way. Do You know what
Inquisition  was?  Christians  treat  murder  as sin. But they used to
kill.  Look  whats  going  on  between two religions. Kids can't go to
school, because they have to trespass some unpleasant zone.

Every  religion,  believe  couses  devastation.  Why? Because there is
always some 180deg different one.

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Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread Dominik 'IronHand' Dalek

Hello!

As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:

 Judging  this  is  difficult  just  because  of  totally different
 traditions.
 Not  quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your
 country  your traditions.
 Dominik is from Poland! I saw here in Germany also Polish television
 and  the  commentaries  there  are like in the most countries of the
 world: This has been the action of insane fanatics.

Not  quite. I'm negativelly surprised by some polish TV stations. Some
informations  are  old,  according  to CNN or CNBC, or they don't even
appear!  So I watch NBC, CNBC, CNN, EuroNews RTL II and RTL II Austria
to  know  what's  going  on.  I do study Polish Internet also, because
informations there are really fresh (If You know polish, ofcourse).

 I'm  sure  that  Dominik  knows  that the Koran don't plead for such
 actions!

I do.

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PIM/e-mail solution

2001-09-12 Thread Stephen Thomas

I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e-
mail combination.  I understand from many sources that TheBat is 
one of the best e-mail clients around.  Does anyone have a recommendation 
of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat?  I also need 
this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device.  I understand 
that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions 
is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons 
that you-all already know.

Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to 
work.  I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that 
well together (though this is only one person's opinion.)  Having 
at least a one-way connection is required, though I'd really like 
a two-way connection on the address book.

Alternative solutions to address book integration are also welcome.
Thanks

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Re: PIM/e-mail solution

2001-09-12 Thread Matt Cahill

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  Stephen,

I use Lotus Organizer, and although I haven't exhausted the ways
in which it can be used with TB!, it's not that bad.  It's Palm
support is fine too.  As for passing addresses over to TB!, it
really depends on what you mean by that.  Can it export clean files
for importing into TB!?  Yes.

  Why don't you download a trial-version from Lotus and check it out?
I can't think of anything else (unless you want to spend $$ on Notes).

 Matt Cahill
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ST I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e-
ST mail combination.  I understand from many sources that TheBat is
ST one of the best e-mail clients around.  Does anyone have a recommendation
ST of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat?  I also need
ST this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device.  I understand
ST that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions
ST is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons
ST that you-all already know.

ST Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to
ST work.  I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that
ST well together (though this is only one person's opinion.)  Having
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ST Thanks

ST Steve

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Re: message.att?

2001-09-12 Thread Nick Gordon

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Hi Batpersons,

On or about, Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 8:51:46 PM, we have reason to believe that 
Vincent - D. Ertner wrote:

VDE Hi Co-Batties,

VDE I guess it has been asked already, but I didn't find a hint:
VDE What does message.att contain, when I receive a message from
VDE an OUtlook-User?

VDE And even more important: What can I tell the Outlook-User
VDE how to disable this feature?

VDE Cheers,

VDE Vince


Can't remember all the details, but it's an artefact of the way OL
formats messages. There's a freeware program called Fentun (search
google for fentun which deals very neatly with the problem.

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Re: message.att?

2001-09-12 Thread Raj

Vincent,

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 21:51:46 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:21 AM where I live) you
wrote:


VDE I guess it has been asked already, but I didn't find a hint:
VDE What does message.att contain, when I receive a message from
VDE an OUtlook-User?

VDE And even more important: What can I tell the Outlook-User
VDE how to disable this feature?

Read  a  mail  by me addressed to Marck D Pearlstone on tbudl 
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Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread John Phillips



Hello Jan
You wrote  On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 13:13:38 [GMT -0400] (03:13 Australian Eastern 
Time,Thursday):

Roland I'm sure that Dominik knows that the Koran
Roland don't plead for such actions!

   I hope so too as their are millions of wonderful,
   generous  kind people who follow the Koran but I
   don't view this as a religious matter, rather as
   a political act.

I know this is OT for this board, however, a Google search on Koran and
Violence is most illuminating.

Also sincere condolences to everyone in the US  all US citizens, wherever you
may be, for the tragic  cowardly events.

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Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks

2001-09-12 Thread John Phillips



Hello Thomas
You wrote  On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, at 02:09:04 [GMT +0800] (04:09 Australian Eastern 
Time,Thursday):

 I agree with you. Besides, Yassir Arafat condemned the attack, too.


He had no choice.  How sincere was it?  IMHO all big BS.

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Re: PIM/e-mail solution

2001-09-12 Thread Nick Andriash

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Hello Stephen Thomas,

On Wednesday, September 12 2001 at 01:37 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I understand that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these
  functions is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the
  reasons that you-all already know.

What reasons are those Stephen? Outlook, with the recent security
updates, is just as secure... or insecure... as any other Mail Client. A
lot depends on the User and how careful you are with attachments.

Outlook is one of the best PIM's out there, and it's Mail Client has one
of the best PGP Plugins, and threads messages beautifully. TB is by far
a more powerful and configurable Client, but at the same time TB is not
a PIM. 


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Could not store message Problem

2001-09-12 Thread Alexander Jason


When downloading mail, I now very often get the error message:

!12-Sep-01, 19:19:33: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name -
C:\DOCUME~1\ALEXAN~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat2A9.tmp)

I have plenty of HD space and usually when I try downloading a few more time, I will
finally get the mail to download. I have even tried cleaning out that folder several 
times
but the problem keeps occurring.

Anyone know  about this?

Thanks,

AJ


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Re: PIM/e-mail solution

2001-09-12 Thread Joseph N.

Stephen,

You asked about an area that I've spent a ton of time on.  I hope
there are additional responses to your inquiry.  Here are some
conclusions of my search:

It depends in part on whether you have a single workstation or a
network (LAN or WAN), and on whether each/the workstation will be
single- or multi-user.  I use Lotus Organizer 5.01 on a multi-user
(family) single computer.  Here's what I know:

-  Lotus Notes combines a PIM, email, and ultra-configurable, powerful
information management capabilities.  But it is really a bear to use
on a single workstation unless you also obtain the Domino server
package, which puts the cost into a new orbit.  Even then, you'll be
able to do anything you want, but it will require significant
investments of time and attention.  It's the best there is, in my
opinion, but after trying it out twice I decided that a space shuttle
was actually an impediment to just getting to the grocery store.

-  Organizer information suggests that it should be able to pass
information to The Bat! more capably than it can to Eudora, but I
found that not to be the case.  Eudora functions exceptionally
smoothly as a mail front-end to Organizer.  It takes not only single
addresses but also group lists.  I don't think it will handle meeting
invitations, but I'm not sure.  I switched away from Eudora only
because I got the idea that it was not designed for multi-user
configurations at a single workstation.

-  I used Pegasus for a long time.  Pegasus takes single addresses
from Organizer, but not group lists.  Version 3.12c (the last official
release) does not read HTML very well, and the interface is clunky.
Version 4 is still in Beta, and it is just not ready yet for heavy
use, again in my opinion.

-  I tried several other email packages, and rejected them for one
reason or another.  I suppose if you want an integrated mail and news
solution for a single user, then Messenger or OE are the way to go,
but I use a separate newsreader and I need more horsepower in my mail
client.

-  I tried and stuck with The Bat! despite the fact that it does not
take email addresses from Organizer.  It's an incredibly capable email
app that serves all my purposes well; its address book seems good;
it's not really THAT much problem to cut and paste an address or to
pick it off an earlier email stored in a folder, or, alternatively, to
use TB's address book at the risk of having to update two different
locations from time to time; and perhaps some future version of one
program or the other will work better together.  (So let the
developers know your wishes.)

Now obviously this is all geared toward Organizer.  I think Organizer
is a superior PIM.  It has features and functionality that are
incredibly well thought out.  Lately I've been looking at an
information processor that has PIM capabilities, Zoot.  Zoot is an
ingenious program.  While it has PIM functions, they are done in a bit
of an unusual way.  However, Zoot is made to synch with Outlook,
essentially providing Outlook with an information management turbo
that is light years ahead of the competition.  If I ever switch from
Org and The Bat it would probably be to go to Zoot and Outlook.

Other possibilities for you, which don't involve TB!, are the office
suites from Corel and Sun.  They both have email and PIM's, but there
are some drawbacks.  Also, InfoSelect is a free-form PIM that includes
an email module.

Good luck.


 Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 3:37:42 PM, you wrote:

ST I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e-
ST mail combination.  I understand from many sources that TheBat is 
ST one of the best e-mail clients around.  Does anyone have a recommendation 
ST of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat?  I also need 
ST this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device.  I understand 
ST that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions 
ST is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons 
ST that you-all already know.

ST Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to 
ST work.  I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that 
ST well together (though this is only one person's opinion.)  Having 
ST at least a one-way connection is required, though I'd really like 
ST a two-way connection on the address book.

ST Alternative solutions to address book integration are also welcome.
ST Thanks

ST Steve



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