Re: Terrorist Attacks
Hi Jan, on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:45:23 -0400 GMT (which was Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 02:45 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote: Hello Dominik, Dominik Judging this is difficult just because of Dominik totally different traditions. Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your country your traditions. Dominik is from Poland! I saw here in Germany also Polish television and the commentaries there are like in the most countries of the world: This has been the action of insane fanatics. I'm sure that Dominik knows that the Koran don't plead for such actions! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 Homepage: http://www.rolandburger.de I use The Bat! v1.53t under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Sorting Folder
Hello tbudl, How can i auto sorting folder -- Best regards, Haye mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Sorting Folder
Haye, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 15:29:57 [GMT +0700] (which was 1:59 PM where I live) you wrote: H How can i auto sorting folder If you click on the 'folder' it will sort the same. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
AB Templates
Fellow TB users, After Marck's lecture I have been making AB templates and now have a query. I work from home and hence the Machine TB is also used by my wife. In the AB we have e-mail address of common friends. To ensure that I address my friends informally I created templates for them in AB. These include my signature the way I address them. Now when my wife (who has a separate folder) clicks on any of the common friends, her id is replaced by mine. She obviously has her own way of addressing and signing. The question is how can I get a work around for the above. -- Best regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Composed on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Sorting Folder
Hello Haye, 12. september 2001, 10:29:57, you wrote: H Hello tbudl, H How can i auto sorting folder If you want to sort folders, click on the Folder, New or Total header in the folders list. If you want to sort messages in folder, click on the appropriate column headers in messages list (Subject, From, Created, ...). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10.1998. ] Creativity varies inversely with the number of cooks involved with the broth. -- Fitz-Gibbon's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: AB Templates
Hi Raj, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:41:39 +0530GMT (12/09/2001, 17:11 +0800GMT), Raj wrote: R Now when my wife (who has a separate folder) clicks on any of the common friends, her id R is replaced by mine. She obviously has her own way of addressing and signing. R The question is how can I get a work around for the above. You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use quick templates. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: AB Templates
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:05:45 PM you wrote (at least in part): R Now when my wife (who has a separate folder) clicks on any of the common friends, her id R is replaced by mine. She obviously has her own way of addressing and signing. R The question is how can I get a work around for the above. TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use TF quick templates. I don't think he needs QTs ... Raj: are you using macros %FromName %FromAddr in the templates? If so your wife only has to be on it's own account with it's own sender data and _then_ create the new mail. If she replies she only has to do one single step _BEFORE_ typing _anything_ in the message body: Options / Active Account ... if _not a single character_ has typed this far in the message the above given macros refresh with the current values. HTH Pit P.S.: I do know this works, because I'm using nearly the same templates for different accounts with above macros :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Acting without thinking can be awfully entertaining. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: AB Templates
Thomas, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 18:05:45 [GMT +0800] (which was 3:35 PM where I live) you wrote: TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use TF quick templates. Yes that is the case... I am the book keeper of the comp. Just wanted to check if there was some way where using Reg Ex I could call a template if the New or reply was being invoked from the account which my wife uses. Else the regular template will be used. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: AB Templates
Hello Raj, On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:44:31 PM you wrote (at least in part): R Thomas, R On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 18:05:45 [GMT +0800] (which was 3:35 PM where I live) you R wrote: TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use TF quick templates. R Yes that is the case... I am the book keeper of the comp. Just wanted to check if there R was some way where using Reg Ex I could call a template if the New or reply was being R invoked from the account which my wife uses. Else the regular template will be used. Create two QTs, both named _exactly_ like the accounts. Insert %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME in New/Reply Template Maybe you want to extend it to %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new for new mails and %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-re for replys. this way you'd need four QTs: Assume the Account-names are Raj Wife (silly, I know *g*): QTs: Raj-new Ray-re Wife-new Wife-re %ACCOUNTNAME should be expanded to 'Raj' or 'Wife' so the correct QT should be _automatically_ included, w/o RegExp :-) Otherwise there's of course still the possibilities I wrote in my other mail (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) It is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: AB Templates
Peter, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you wrote: PP QTs: Raj-new PP Ray-re PP Wife-new PP Wife-re PP %ACCOUNTNAME should be expanded to 'Raj' or 'Wife' so the correct QT should be PP _automatically_ included, w/o RegExp :-) I am a little lost. Can I trouble you for a little more detailed explanation. Are you saying that these macros be used in the AB templates. Basically what I want achieve using AB templates is as follows. Now when my wife (and she only uses her account) clicks on a new or reply message - The template she wants will be used. In all other cases the template I want will be used for that id. Ideally I would like organize it so that the templates come up automatically. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: AB Templates
Peter, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you wrote: PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME PP in New/Reply Template PP Maybe you want to extend it to PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new Thanks - After reading a few times got what you were saying. Thanks. However it does not work when I use %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new. In other words it seems to work fine as long as the QT has the name of the account. Anything extra and I get a blank template. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Thomas others on this TB! list following this thread, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, you stated regarding Terrorist Attacks: TF Hi Douglas, TF Yes, it has. You don't understand martyrdom. Neither do would be Martyrs. DH the backlash will be profound and this may spell the end of DH Their acts have made them become too visible, too destructive to DH remain protected. They will be eliminated. TF You scare me. My work deals with sustainable development, Tom ( I think you knew that). What I foresee is simply logical highly likely. Obviously, those responsible must be identified as I suspected, someone in one of the planes did manage to contact her husband via cel phone, so that will probably happen. This might turn out to be another JFK type affair, but that one too was delved into by many competent ( some less so) investigators if US hawks were involved, that too will come out. My main point is simple: When a tragedy or crisis occurs, some don't react some overreact. The important thing is to react appropriately, which requires evaluating what has occurred the alternative scenarios, then making an informed ( accurate) decision In the context of my own life, minimizing risks dealing w/ hostility (usually incongruent) true believers is an an everyday thing, but I try to never lose sight of my original objective, which to to help build a better and more life giving world. Are US politics good for all? They're often not even good for the US itself. Does that justify this kind of action? No way, never. Violence generates more violence and sustainable ag development emphasizes control over eradication (the Prohibition didn't work either). In terms of the original objective of this list, all this is really OT so we should do it off TBUDL /or TBTech. I prefer private mail ( am not subscribed to TBOT) but don't have a great deal more to say about this topic at this point. IAC, nothing more from me will be post on list on this topic. Douglas -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: AB Templates
Hello Raj, On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 3:21:53 PM you wrote (at least in part): R Peter, R On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you R wrote: PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME PP in New/Reply Template PP Maybe you want to extend it to PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new R Thanks - After reading a few times got what you were saying. R Thanks. R However it does not work when I use %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME-new. In other words it seems R to work fine as long as the QT has the name of the account. Anything extra and I get a R blank template. have you tried replacing '-' with '_'? Or even let it blank and use '%ACCOUNTNAMEnew' ??? -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Tongue-tied and twisted, just an earthbound misfit, I. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: AB Templates
Peter, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 14:28:55 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:58 PM where I live) you wrote: PP Create two QTs, both named _exactly_ like the accounts. PP Insert PP %QINCLUDE=%ACCOUNTNAME Just ignore my previous replies. Very Very Sheepish Grin Thanks for the wonderful idea. Its working fine. Learnt some thing new 1. TB did not let me down. 2. Have more patience. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Message-ID
Hallo Peter, RO Currently my Message-ID is [EMAIL PROTECTED] RO Is it possible for TB to change the ID into something as RO weirdnumber.datetime@MyFullAddress? PP What do you mean with 'FullAddress' ??? Full-E-Mail-Address? I hope you don't! PP this would mean Message-ID containing a second '@' ... you don't really want PP that, don't you? Well, actually I meant [EMAIL PROTECTED] PP After all that explanation I still ask myself: What's your concern 'bout your PP MessageIDs? I'd like to use them for a filter that sees the difference between replies on messages by me and messages by robots using my address. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Douglas, Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 7:56:41 AM, you wrote: DH all this is really DH OT so we should do it off TBUDL /or TBTech. I prefer private mail DH ( am not subscribed to TBOT) -- What are these acronyms: OT and TBOT? Off Topic? and... -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, On 12 September 2001 at 08:41:37 -0700 (which was 16:41 where I live) Peter Chiou wrote to Douglas Hinds and made these points: PC What are these acronyms: OT and TBOT? Off Topic? and... Yes, and: .. TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list .. One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic discussions of public interest. Please feel free to join this list, where many of our readership currently participate. Addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / . SB! v1.53s/iKey1000- on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7n4PvOeQkq5KdzaARAp+NAKDLcVJEPmYL/CGK6zeOchR0/RWX7wCg2q9W VZXwFe524lSmttS2UbFT3Vk= =DcPQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Message-ID
Hello Roelof, On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 4:34:01 PM you wrote: RO Hallo Peter, RO Currently my Message-ID is [EMAIL PROTECTED] RO Is it possible for TB to change the ID into something as RO weirdnumber.datetime@MyFullAddress? PP What do you mean with 'FullAddress' ??? Full-E-Mail-Address? I hope you don't! PP this would mean Message-ID containing a second '@' ... you don't really want PP that, don't you? RO Well, actually I meant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well ... I actually don't think this as a good idea as the full stop is in domain names the seperator for the host/domain hierarchical ... so 'username.domain.tld' is in fact the correct 'name' for a host named 'username' in domain 'domain.tld'. PP After all that explanation I still ask myself: What's your concern 'bout your PP MessageIDs? RO I'd like to use them for a filter that sees the difference between RO replies on messages by me and messages by robots using my address. Nevertheless, unless TB! does not allow altering / editing _all_ header fields before sending (or at least does not allow to change the message id) you could maybe use 'XRay' from http://www.xrayapp.com/ as this is a Windows-SMTP-server (kind of) and able to handle with header fields routing through. I know it's able to change headers, I don't know if it can _insert_ a port into a header value or only replace/delete headers. Maybe you want give it a try. HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Take care of the cojones and the frijoles will take care of themselves. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter! On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 5:41:37 PM you wrote: What are these acronyms: OT and TBOT? Off Topic? and... The Bat! Off Topic. It is for issues coming about in the course of technical questions on TBUDL, TBTECH and TBBETA*. *The Bat! User Discussion List, The Bat! Technics (largely RegEx questions), The Bat! Beta discussions. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Don't judge people by their relatives. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO5919fTo1oA8g8dLEQJkaQCeK7AaG657htaSX7IluCJDxwH7bI0AoI8J SjvbM8NURY3L3XhLdryY33eY =51Yn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Douglas, On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 21:02:26 [ -0600 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Terrorist Attacks': Douglas [...] Inevitably, the pendulum swings Douglas back. [...] Hard for me to find an appropriate line to quote from your extremely well fashioned comments in order to express my agreement. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Yuki, On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 13:10:52 [ +0900 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Terrorist Attacks': Yuki [...] anything other than thoroughly Yuki traumatizing both the perpetrators and the Yuki societies that shelter them will stop this. Yuki The cost needs to demonstrably outweigh the Yuki benefit. Only then will the act not be Yuki undertaken. Anything less than a Yuki comprehensive and forceful response will Yuki simply encourage further atrocities. [...] When you the President of the United States use the phrase acts of war, I think it is probable that what you say is already on the table. The only question left is who to direct it at. I can't help but believe that Afghanistan is now in the U.S. crosshair. Perhaps if will also be discovered that another country helped finance, organize or was involved in this horror. What you are now seeing is evidence of what the U.S. can do in a national emergency. The country was locked up in just a few hours. Borders closed, all planes grounded, military jets AWACS flying over cities security installations, the entire military world-wide placed on Delta alert, the highest possible before war. The only other time this country experienced a sneak attack was the attack on Pearl Harbor. Admiral Yamamoto, in charge of the Japanese attack force, when informed that the early waves of bombers were successful, is oft quoted as saying I am afraid we have awaken[ed] a sleeping giant. Even today what happened on Dec 7, 1941 is still referred to as 'A Day in Infamy'. And we know what happened then. What happened yesterday in New York Wash, DC was worse. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: AB Templates
Hello Peter, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:42:19 +0200 GMT (12/09/2001, 18:42 +0800 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF You mean you share the same friends with the same email addresses but TF want to use different templates? In that case, I recommend you use TF quick templates. PP I don't think he needs QTs ... PP Raj: are you using macros PP %FromName %FromAddr PP in the templates? PP If so your wife only has to be on it's own account with it's own sender data PP and _then_ create the new mail. This would work only if both use only account templates, I would think. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Don't use no double negatives. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Jan, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:13:38 -0400 GMT (13/09/2001, 01:13 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Perhaps it is a matter of language but I can only repeat my JR comment when someone explains that Palestinians cheering about JR this tragedy has to be viewed differently because of different JR traditions. JR I don't buy this comment. I believe all people in all countries JR are still people and as such should not cheer for the death of JR thousands thousands of innocent civilians. I agree with you. Besides, Yassir Arafat condemned the attack, too. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Snowmen fall from Heaven unassembled. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[4]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: But tell me, was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans _do_ suffer, but this is a major mistake, IMNSHO. But Get Your Facts Right the US didn't bomb Kabul, it's a local battle not the US, at least not yet. I wrote it few minutes after CNN reported bombings. It took USA 7 min to say it wasn't their helicopters. At that time it was considered to be a fast. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[5]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: Judging this is difficult just because of totally different traditions. Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your country your traditions. No, it is not. Just think. First of all people showned on TV were kids in most. Second of all tell me, how do kids act when they see camera? The make some monkey acts. That's fact. I didn't hear any anti America slogans, but some people tells there were some. Anyway, You can not judge totally different people using Your measure. That's how Indians, Astecs, Inkas died... Different civilisations are always defficult to understand. What You consider to be normal can be difficult to uderstrand for foreigners. And vice versa. Islam is not an evil religion. It is religion of peace. But there are some insane individuals, who interprete Koran in some different, mysterious way. Do You know what Inquisition was? Christians treat murder as sin. But they used to kill. Look whats going on between two religions. Kids can't go to school, because they have to trespass some unpleasant zone. Every religion, believe couses devastation. Why? Because there is always some 180deg different one. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: Judging this is difficult just because of totally different traditions. Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your country your traditions. Dominik is from Poland! I saw here in Germany also Polish television and the commentaries there are like in the most countries of the world: This has been the action of insane fanatics. Not quite. I'm negativelly surprised by some polish TV stations. Some informations are old, according to CNN or CNBC, or they don't even appear! So I watch NBC, CNBC, CNN, EuroNews RTL II and RTL II Austria to know what's going on. I do study Polish Internet also, because informations there are really fresh (If You know polish, ofcourse). I'm sure that Dominik knows that the Koran don't plead for such actions! I do. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
PIM/e-mail solution
I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e- mail combination. I understand from many sources that TheBat is one of the best e-mail clients around. Does anyone have a recommendation of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat? I also need this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device. I understand that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons that you-all already know. Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to work. I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that well together (though this is only one person's opinion.) Having at least a one-way connection is required, though I'd really like a two-way connection on the address book. Alternative solutions to address book integration are also welcome. Thanks Steve -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: PIM/e-mail solution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Stephen, I use Lotus Organizer, and although I haven't exhausted the ways in which it can be used with TB!, it's not that bad. It's Palm support is fine too. As for passing addresses over to TB!, it really depends on what you mean by that. Can it export clean files for importing into TB!? Yes. Why don't you download a trial-version from Lotus and check it out? I can't think of anything else (unless you want to spend $$ on Notes). Matt Cahill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Eens Ajacied, altijd Ajacied. - ST I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e- ST mail combination. I understand from many sources that TheBat is ST one of the best e-mail clients around. Does anyone have a recommendation ST of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat? I also need ST this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device. I understand ST that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions ST is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons ST that you-all already know. ST Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to ST work. I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that ST well together (though this is only one person's opinion.) Having ST at least a one-way connection is required, though I'd really like ST a two-way connection on the address book. ST Alternative solutions to address book integration are also welcome. ST Thanks ST Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAO5/OSVNqpING8RNNAQFiXQQApqZw6D7imp1xHV0wIn7m2yvY5pWXuX9X /Nv6lr0WKj3s0zCkT0VfnnxMJhyicKcgWKekvWhDXYxsuoDmvEQZ3FQk6mn0UvzA nLRSusYyvelt1nDrkP0jZzFSckagTxDVJd278WD3ikirKH/VJARKyR83G4oNIEPr VQiOYXGjVr8= =A/wA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: message.att?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 8:51:46 PM, we have reason to believe that Vincent - D. Ertner wrote: VDE Hi Co-Batties, VDE I guess it has been asked already, but I didn't find a hint: VDE What does message.att contain, when I receive a message from VDE an OUtlook-User? VDE And even more important: What can I tell the Outlook-User VDE how to disable this feature? VDE Cheers, VDE Vince Can't remember all the details, but it's an artefact of the way OL formats messages. There's a freeware program called Fentun (search google for fentun which deals very neatly with the problem. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBO5/gAEqL65Xj7aHMEQIQ/QCg80M+f7Abuw7TOLNbKlUC4xFwIdQAmgNV yGuGkifosSto7SsJsiq5hlJV =YIDZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: message.att?
Vincent, On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 21:51:46 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:21 AM where I live) you wrote: VDE I guess it has been asked already, but I didn't find a hint: VDE What does message.att contain, when I receive a message from VDE an OUtlook-User? VDE And even more important: What can I tell the Outlook-User VDE how to disable this feature? Read a mail by me addressed to Marck D Pearlstone on tbudl [EMAIL PROTECTED] With subject Re:Attachments in the archive for more info. http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Thursday, September 13, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53t on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Jan You wrote On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, at 13:13:38 [GMT -0400] (03:13 Australian Eastern Time,Thursday): Roland I'm sure that Dominik knows that the Koran Roland don't plead for such actions! I hope so too as their are millions of wonderful, generous kind people who follow the Koran but I don't view this as a religious matter, rather as a political act. I know this is OT for this board, however, a Google search on Koran and Violence is most illuminating. Also sincere condolences to everyone in the US all US citizens, wherever you may be, for the tragic cowardly events. -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Bat! 1.53d Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram Contents may settle during shipment. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Thomas You wrote On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, at 02:09:04 [GMT +0800] (04:09 Australian Eastern Time,Thursday): I agree with you. Besides, Yassir Arafat condemned the attack, too. He had no choice. How sincere was it? IMHO all big BS. -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Bat! 1.53d Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram Error in REALITY.SYS. Run BIGBANG.EXE (Y/N) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: PIM/e-mail solution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stephen Thomas, On Wednesday, September 12 2001 at 01:37 PM PDT, you wrote: I understand that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons that you-all already know. What reasons are those Stephen? Outlook, with the recent security updates, is just as secure... or insecure... as any other Mail Client. A lot depends on the User and how careful you are with attachments. Outlook is one of the best PIM's out there, and it's Mail Client has one of the best PGP Plugins, and threads messages beautifully. TB is by far a more powerful and configurable Client, but at the same time TB is not a PIM. - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Courtenay, B.C. Canada=- Win 98SE | GnuPG v1.06 (MingW32) | Becky v2.00.07 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.91 Comment: Join: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE7oDXExQKEdHuj/c4RAgg1AKDmxA6+dn09oceNA4YZRcUiUItw3ACeMtQt MuMt3UzP89Y/L7aO6jOawSY= =I07A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Could not store message Problem
When downloading mail, I now very often get the error message: !12-Sep-01, 19:19:33: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\ALEXAN~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat2A9.tmp) I have plenty of HD space and usually when I try downloading a few more time, I will finally get the mail to download. I have even tried cleaning out that folder several times but the problem keeps occurring. Anyone know about this? Thanks, AJ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: PIM/e-mail solution
Stephen, You asked about an area that I've spent a ton of time on. I hope there are additional responses to your inquiry. Here are some conclusions of my search: It depends in part on whether you have a single workstation or a network (LAN or WAN), and on whether each/the workstation will be single- or multi-user. I use Lotus Organizer 5.01 on a multi-user (family) single computer. Here's what I know: - Lotus Notes combines a PIM, email, and ultra-configurable, powerful information management capabilities. But it is really a bear to use on a single workstation unless you also obtain the Domino server package, which puts the cost into a new orbit. Even then, you'll be able to do anything you want, but it will require significant investments of time and attention. It's the best there is, in my opinion, but after trying it out twice I decided that a space shuttle was actually an impediment to just getting to the grocery store. - Organizer information suggests that it should be able to pass information to The Bat! more capably than it can to Eudora, but I found that not to be the case. Eudora functions exceptionally smoothly as a mail front-end to Organizer. It takes not only single addresses but also group lists. I don't think it will handle meeting invitations, but I'm not sure. I switched away from Eudora only because I got the idea that it was not designed for multi-user configurations at a single workstation. - I used Pegasus for a long time. Pegasus takes single addresses from Organizer, but not group lists. Version 3.12c (the last official release) does not read HTML very well, and the interface is clunky. Version 4 is still in Beta, and it is just not ready yet for heavy use, again in my opinion. - I tried several other email packages, and rejected them for one reason or another. I suppose if you want an integrated mail and news solution for a single user, then Messenger or OE are the way to go, but I use a separate newsreader and I need more horsepower in my mail client. - I tried and stuck with The Bat! despite the fact that it does not take email addresses from Organizer. It's an incredibly capable email app that serves all my purposes well; its address book seems good; it's not really THAT much problem to cut and paste an address or to pick it off an earlier email stored in a folder, or, alternatively, to use TB's address book at the risk of having to update two different locations from time to time; and perhaps some future version of one program or the other will work better together. (So let the developers know your wishes.) Now obviously this is all geared toward Organizer. I think Organizer is a superior PIM. It has features and functionality that are incredibly well thought out. Lately I've been looking at an information processor that has PIM capabilities, Zoot. Zoot is an ingenious program. While it has PIM functions, they are done in a bit of an unusual way. However, Zoot is made to synch with Outlook, essentially providing Outlook with an information management turbo that is light years ahead of the competition. If I ever switch from Org and The Bat it would probably be to go to Zoot and Outlook. Other possibilities for you, which don't involve TB!, are the office suites from Corel and Sun. They both have email and PIM's, but there are some drawbacks. Also, InfoSelect is a free-form PIM that includes an email module. Good luck. Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 3:37:42 PM, you wrote: ST I am looking for a good PIM (personal information manager) and e- ST mail combination. I understand from many sources that TheBat is ST one of the best e-mail clients around. Does anyone have a recommendation ST of a good PIM that will pass addresses over to TheBat? I also need ST this PIM to have a robust conduit to a Palm device. I understand ST that the only PIM that currently integrates all of these functions ST is Outlook, but I will not use that product for all of the reasons ST that you-all already know. ST Please pass on your collective wisdom as to what you have found to ST work. I understand that Lotus Organizer and TheBat don't work that ST well together (though this is only one person's opinion.) Having ST at least a one-way connection is required, though I'd really like ST a two-way connection on the address book. ST Alternative solutions to address book integration are also welcome. ST Thanks ST Steve -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d