nonstandard headers
I've been a demo user for less than a day now, and so far I'm very impressed with TB! I've read (most of) the documentation online and off; if I've missed something I should've seen, I apologize. It looks like the only way to specify non-standard headers is on a message-by-message basis, editing by hand. If this was a design decision based on a philosophy of keeping headers to a minimum, I can respect that. However, I do need the ability to use non-standard headers. E.g., Yahoo Groups will not archive mails if 'Archive: no' or 'X-No-Archive: yes' is set, one of the few Yahoo features I like. Any chance a future version of TB! will make adding headers easier? (If this is a question better sent to RIT, just let me know.) While I'm at it, is there a list of planned improvements available somewhere? -- Mike v1.60h (unregistered, for now) Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Forgotten password
Hello, I've locked my mailbox and have unfortunately forgotten the password. Is there any way to recover a password? (The Bat! Version 1.53d) Appreciate. Regards, Valerij Vorotyntsev | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Connection Problems
On Thursday, May 09, 2002, Edward G. Hochstein wrote to TBUDL: EGH Are you using a FW after uninstalling ZA? Fwiw, I'm using Kerio, formerly Tiny, and it doesn't cause any issues with TB! (or any other apps) on my Win98 machine. -- Mike Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: nonstandard headers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, @10 May 2002, 23:51:35 -0500 (05:51 UK time) Michael L. Cusac wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like the only way to specify non-standard headers is on a message-by-message basis, editing by hand. For now, yes. If this was a design decision based on a philosophy of keeping headers to a minimum, I can respect that. I don't know what the decision was based on, but it is a conscious one. snip Any chance a future version of TB! will make adding headers easier? I've been asking for this facility since I discovered TB four years ago! Every time, the specific header I was after gets added but no free-form header adding facility. The last such addition was Comment: (If this is a question better sent to RIT, just let me know.) While I'm at it, is there a list of planned improvements available somewhere? There's a wish-list at the BugTraq site (see below) but that doesn't give any indication of whether or not there is any intent to implement behind the wish. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE824G6OeQkq5KdzaARAiy8AKC1OKYVfvpvtMvIi5mbnxko94XgsACg8+C8 CM5Dtc2wRY1GhDhn0BPv9yU= =gY2u -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Lock ups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pete, @10 May 2002, 22:33:24 -0600 (05:33 UK time) Pete Milne wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am fairly new to The Bat and have had a few minor glitches. After I have The Bat open for a few hours, I go to send a mail and it says 'relay failed'. I then try to shut down the program and it wont shut down. I go to task manager (W2K) and have to shut it down from there. It tells me that is it not responding. Is this familiar to anyone?? Not really, unless you are using ZoneAlarm? It sounds like one of the problems it is known to create. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8238/OeQkq5KdzaARAn0CAJ980QDQmERa61ACW0FIoorkVTJUHQCeJ+KM MSjb3utXcwG9CkZH6D3W190= =/bPP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Message Database Management?
Hello Greg, I should mention first I think TB! is a good email program. There is absolutely no doubt about that. That is why I switched to TBback in January and by early March I had completely un-installed VA from my systems. And I am glad you think so because, to a certain extent, I think contributed in your switching to TB also (at least for e-mail). I do NOT want others who read this thread to get defensive. And I don't either. If I criticize some TB's peculiarities and/or limitations is with the sole intention of providing ideas for an even further improvement. If the ideas just fall in the bit bucket is another story. I will comment on the rest of your message later on, when I have some time. Now I have to get to work, I need some money for my lunch. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What Microsoft does better than TheBat
Hello Dwight! On Friday, May 10, 2002 at 12:42:54 AM you wrote: my recollection was that the line is plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize, And your memory serves you right. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60j on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C When people have problems using a design, it's not because they are stupid. It's because the design is too difficult. (Jakob Nielsen) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Sending Messages hangs up
Hello Robert, It happened to me also (just yesterday). I believe I then got a message kdovkdf %s dvdffd when closing TB. I do not remember exactly. I then had to shutdown it by taskbar a few times, but now it seems it is back to normal. I think it could be connected to unability to connect to server (mail server was having some problems). Best regards, Mitja Perko Friday, May 10, 2002, 1:08:29 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just had this happen again. I had 5 messages queued in the OutBox. I hit Send, the Connection Centre popped up and began. It stayed present, maybe one was sent. Then, I had to abort the task. The messages remained in the OutBox. I hit Send and got the message that there was nothing to send!! I double-clicked each message in the OutBox and then hit Send Immediately and they were sent out. This was the same problem I had with version 1.60C also. - - Thanks for the help ... Robert The Bat!: 1.60h Windows ME 4.90.3000. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPNsBehUUkTAdFK9fEQLxlgCfYAdITilhDCXqVrO2n/K0XBLFeu8AoIj8 CvYLCNC1P116yIPBFR6Kagy4 =H+Co -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Message Database Management?
Hello Roelof, You can assing it yourself by going to View-Edit shortcuts. Best regards, Mitja Perko Thursday, May 9, 2002, 9:59:50 PM, you wrote: Hello Greg, On Thu, 9 May 2002 12:54:04 -0500GMT (9-5-02, 19:54 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: GS It appears I could use the Park function to save a message after GS the time specified in the folder options, but again this requires GS reviewing all messages. MORE WORK! I did NOT notice a short cut on GS the Message Park: CtrlJ Unpark: CtrlD Unfortunately I'm not aware of any shortcuts to (un)park whole threads, that's a mouse-only thing. Though the following might come in useful: Delete thread: CtrlShiftDel Mark thread read: CtrlShiftM Mark thread unread: CtrlShiftU Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Importing addresses from the command line
Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Thanks to Marck, I can now get email addresses from a database to a CSV file, to TB Address Book. I'm currently importing from the CSV file by hand but I'd like to do that programmatically from my database. Is there a command that I can use on the command line to import the addresses? FWIW, I searched Help but could only find info on how to import messages. TIA, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Winamp currently playing Elkie Brooks - Money A procrastinator's work is never done. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: nonstandard headers
Hello Michael, On Thu, 9 May 2002 23:51:35 -0500GMT (10-5-02, 6:51 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MLC It looks like the only way to specify non-standard headers is on a MLC message-by-message basis, editing by hand. You could try X-Ray. That's a freeware smtp-server you can install on your own pc. From the info I gather that it's developed with TB in mind. It has the possibility to insert headers and such. More info: http://www.xrayapp.com -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Importing addresses from the command line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Geoff, @10 May 2002, 10:27:11 +0100 Geoff Lane wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a command that I can use on the command line to import the addresses? FWIW, I searched Help but could only find info on how to import messages. I'm sorry to say that's about the size of it. Then again, have you looked at PowerPro? You can probably streamline it with a PP macro. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE825a3OeQkq5KdzaARAvp0AJ4oQDs4j9eOdkWoMn+tCSYf7L+lTACfdp0r ihrMu9af6j4SMuCF742lE4s= =X9EG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Sending Messages hangs up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitja Perko Suggested, in this reply: - - It happened to me also (just yesterday). I believe I then got a message kdovkdf %s dvdffd when closing TB. - - Hi Mitja, thanks for the reply. This problem also occurs, sometimes, when I am trying to download email. I then get a No Data error message. While it *may* be the ISP, I am thinking, right now, it is not. I have not seen such problems in the past year using The Bat, all the *extra's* I am using, firewalls and such. It's a new problem in the past couple of months. I will post, back here, when I am seeing these problems. Thanks for the reply, Robert http://home1.gte.net/denstar/index.htm The Bat!: 1.60h Windows ME 4.90.3000. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPNukLBUUkTAdFK9fEQLgPwCg9GefoNmZuzlxWWhgaerAQDdnpykAoL52 OcWGD0E4QqHkPc/uzfiVY3DG =koQE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What Microsoft does better than TheBat
Thu, 9 May 2002 17:42:54[GMT -0500] (6:42 PM EDST) Dwight A Corrin wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2002, 9:20:59 AM, Daniel Grunberg wrote: Or as Nicoli Ivanovitch LUbochevski (or was it Tom Lehrer?) almost (always?) used to say: Document! Document! Document, but always remember to call it 'Research.' my recollection was that the line is plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize, Yes but if I stated it that way, that would be [oh horror of horrors] plagiarism. (But, you may say, that is why the Good Lord made your eyes. I did say that The Great Lubochevski almost used to say it my way. Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express isinstalled on the same computer?
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Spike wrote: Hello Jonathan, The problem with KLEZ is that it has its own built in SMTP server and sends out mails (all from the WAB - Windows Address Book) as if they come directly from the person whose address is used. You can't determine where the message actually came from. The safest course is to REMOVE Outlook AND the Windows Address Book ENTIRELY. Those are the targets of 99.99% of the virus code! I know... I deal with about 5 of them every day now. We've installed a mail scanner on our mail server now to provent this kind of thing. As for it's source, there appears to be two versions flying about at the moment. One sets the Return-Path header, which is a valid email address of the infected user. This I know because of 3 that hit us last week. I called the person, and they confirmed they were infected. Unfortunately the second version appears not to add anything quite as technical, but if you know your friends, you *may* be able to trace it to their ISP. With The Bat!, as long as you don't right click and save the attachments, and then get even dumber and run them, they can usually do nothing. Absent Outlook and WAB, there is virtually nothing the virus can do, other than whatever destructive code it runs locally. That is what I was saying... providing he doesn't try and execute the program, he'll be fine. TB! doesn't suffer the problem of the IFRAMES tag which is what Klez uses to force itself to open. The only way you're going to get infected with this one, is run the program yourself. At which point you should be taken to your sysadmin, and shot with a gun ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Connection Problems
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: Edward G. Hochstein [EGH] wrote: ... EGH Good point: Yes I am running Zonealarm. Arrgghh!! I won't say anything. :-(( I advise the person to read the recent threads on ZoneAlarm, and TB!. I'm sure they could be very informative :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express is installedon the same computer?
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Anthony Xin Chen wrote: Hello Spike, On 9 May 2002 18:32:56 (my local time 16:32:56), Spike wrote: The safest course is to REMOVE Outlook AND the Windows Address Book ENTIRELY. Those are the targets of 99.99% of the virus code! How to do that? Or rather how to make sure those are completely removed? The Windows Address book can be removed from the control panel - add/remove programs - Windows Setup, scroll through the list. I cannot remember which version of Win98 allowed you to uninstall Outlook Express, I think it was Win98se. Outlook (not outlook express) is an office application, so drop in your office CD, run setup, and go to Uninstall components, remove Outlook. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
' Invalid argument to date encode error' on start up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm getting an Invalid argument to date encode error. error dialog every time I start TB! I can't seem to get rid of it no matter what I do. Any ideas? It's quite annoying! - -- Best regards, Robin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNvDsRbAIbkOlqTtEQLM7wCgvwQYo58p2503uu+N+9K4ByOBmAYAoPP8 34VL30pbXcsEi73k5ZLrNqlz =r1io -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: ' Invalid argument to date encode error' on start up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi None, @10 May 2002, 07:57:15 -0500 (13:57 UK time) None wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm getting an Invalid argument to date encode error. error dialog every time I start TB! I can't seem to get rid of it no matter what I do. Any ideas? It's quite annoying! Every time this has come up before (and it has) it has been due to importing Birthday values from an Outlook Express contact database in to the TB Address Book. The only remedy is to clear the address book and re-import contacts excluding the Birthday field. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE828aFOeQkq5KdzaARAjB5AJ9wCU5JmRB6I7WRZqPqxr4hRC4/IgCg9xQh STmpfG1yDQJYRfOVaqeU3+Y= =AnUU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: ' Invalid argument to date encode error' on start up
Hello None, On Fri, 10 May 2002 07:57:15 -0500GMT (10-5-02, 14:57 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: N I'm getting an Invalid argument to date encode error. error N dialog every time I start TB! I can't seem to get rid of it no N matter what I do. Looks like you imported addresses from Outlook or Outlook Express. They contain birthdays in a format that won't go well with TB. Two options: 1 Delete them and re-import them without birthdays 2 Alter all birthdays manually. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
xp and pgp interaction...
Friday, May 10, 2002 Hello , Quoted from one of the latest security bulletins... NTFS, a feature of Windows XP, supports an encrypted attribute. PGP 7.0.3 Freeware, a product of Network Associates, supports wiping files as they are deleted. If you enable file wiping and then set the encrypted attribute on a folder, copies of the contents are left un-encrypted on the file system EOQ makes you wonder if that was a planned or accidental bug like all the others... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60j NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAX (USA) (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: nonstandard headers
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... It looks like the only way to specify non-standard headers is on a message-by-message basis, editing by hand. For now, yes. Can you not use templates to add headers? If this was a design decision based on a philosophy of keeping headers to a minimum, I can respect that. I don't know what the decision was based on, but it is a conscious one. If no to the above question... then maybe a requested item. I'd find it very useful in my office to get internal mails to skip all our scanning routines. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Anyone with large amounts of mail in The bat?
Hello Jonathan Angliss, On Mon, 6 May 2002 20:52:00 -0500 (CDT) GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, May 7, 2002, 8:52:00 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jonathan Angliss wrote: On Tue, 7 May 2002, tracer wrote: Hello ETM, On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:44:55 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 11:44:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, ETM wrote: Agreed, and make 100% sure that you back all your mail up as well... a fresh install might not necessarily protect your mails from being messed with ;) I did try an import from Outlook that comes with Office XP... but that messed up on 1.60c to the point where all the From fields were list names, and not the true senders... there was no subjects, dates were all set to the import date, the To field was missing, and a load of other stuff was screwed... I'm guessing that had something to do with an unsuported version of Outlook for the TB! importer ;) I ended up exporting the emails I really needed to keep into .msg format, then playing with the formating in the file until I knew it'd import right. As far as I know its a bug in Outlook / outlook express as it even happens when trying to pick up mail from a previous corrupted version of windows... At least I had it happen to mail on customers systems and while I cannot remember exact circumstances, I am sure it is not just a feature happening if the Bat is involved.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60j mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Message Database Management?
Hello Mitja, Friday, May 10, 2002, 3:59:35 AM, you wrote: MP You can assing it yourself by going to View-Edit shortcuts. Very helpful suggestion. Thanks! -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60c on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Change Appearance of Zero?
What is the easiest way to change the appearance of the digit zero so that it has a slash through it? If it's possible, I'd like to make that change since it would be easier for someone with poor eyesight to quickly tell the difference between the letter O and the digit 0. I frequently need to send groups consisting of both capital letters and digits (e.g., TY17QGM0 - Is the last character an O or a 0 -- you can see the problem). Currently under the View tab and under the Character Set tab I'm using None with very acceptable results other than the desired slash in the digit zero. -- Cordially Kara[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: nonstandard headers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @10 May 2002, 08:40:18 -0500 (14:40 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you not use templates to add headers? No, only message body or specific headers like Reply-To and Comment. ... I'd find it very useful in my office to get internal mails to skip all our scanning routines. Perhaps you can scan for a lack of routing header (Received ...) from your ISP? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE829jMOeQkq5KdzaARAl2kAJkBCkByvQDCRHaewOmNt+uDrcA6NwCg+q8D KOTpfvX6FMuzVF/8pXoJHYA= =V45y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Change Appearance of Zero?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kara, @10 May 2002, 10:11:35 -0400 (15:11 UK time) Kara Denizi wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the easiest way to change the appearance of the digit zero so that it has a slash through it? Not really possible - it is a function of the font being used and you can only change it locally. You can see it however you want, but you can't affect how someone else will see it. Currently under the View tab and under the Character Set tab I'm using None with very acceptable results other than the desired slash in the digit zero. Well, if it's just for yourself, choose a font that has the representation of zero you're looking for in the Preferences | Viewer settings. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE829uSOeQkq5KdzaARArcSAKDJC1Clprg48rImcp41ycKusI7UfACgxSl+ 4CqTZYzOlH9uc0HO86pQDUc= =OZQt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Change Appearance of Zero?
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Not really possible - it is a function of the font being used and you can only change it locally. You can see it however you want, but you can't affect how someone else will see it. Unless you're using Outlook, with HTML emails, and they have the font installed too (ewww) ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Lock ups
Replying to your message of Friday, May 10, 2002, 2:05:18 AM: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi Pete, MDP @10 May 2002, 22:33:24 -0600 (05:33 UK time) Pete Milne wrote in MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am fairly new to The Bat and have had a few minor glitches. After I have The Bat open for a few hours, I go to send a mail and it says 'relay failed'. I then try to shut down the program and it wont shut down. I go to task manager (W2K) and have to shut it down from there. It tells me that is it not responding. Is this familiar to anyone?? MDP Not really, unless you are using ZoneAlarm? It sounds like one of the MDP problems it is known to create. MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 MDP · MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MDP iD8DBQE8238/OeQkq5KdzaARAn0CAJ980QDQmERa61ACW0FIoorkVTJUHQCeJ+KM MDP MSjb3utXcwG9CkZH6D3W190= MDP =/bPP MDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Hey Marck, No ZA but I do have Outpost installed. It doesn't happen too often but when it does you have no idea until you finally realize that you haven't gotten any mail in the last hour. -- Pete Friday, May 10, 2002 8:48:11 AM This e-mail is brought to you by The Bat: Version 1.60h Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Exporting to .eml error
Hi everyone, I have run into a problem when i go to export messages into the eml format. I started using Mailbag Assistant yesterday, and went to create an archive. However, of the 15000+ message headers, about 2 thousand or so were garbage, somehow corrupted. Funnily enough, they all seem to originate from this list. I've been on to customer support for Mailbag Assistant, and they have never heard of this happening on such a scale. So i did the usual things, compressed folders, turned off virus scanners, even downgraded to 1.53d, all to no avail. I then decided to try it with Pocomail. And to import into Pocomail, I believe they need to be in the .eml format. So i went to export them out of TB, and it will export some, but others it just says Could not export Messages. I tried exporting them into the .msg format, just to see how big the problem is, and that works fine. I'm beginning to wonder if this is why Mailbag Assistant can'ts grab the headers from TB. Anyone know what is going on? -- Best regards, John Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Change Appearance of Zero?
Hi, Kara Denizi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : What is the easiest way to change the appearance of the digit zero so that it has a slash through it? You can set the font under Options/Editor Preferences/Display. I use Andale Mono which has a dot in the zero. Yet, be aware that this changes only the way messages are displayed on *your* system. You have no influences on how messages are displayed on the recipient's system. Andale Mono is a free download from http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Lock ups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pete, @10 May 2002, 08:50:04 -0600 (15:50 UK time) Pete Milne wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No ZA but I do have Outpost installed. It doesn't happen too often but when it does you have no idea until you finally realize that you haven't gotten any mail in the last hour. Have you tried stopping Outpost and seeing how TB behaves then. Alternatively TPF come highly recommended and has no side effects like this. moderator Please trim your quotes to simply provide context for your replies. This message was a good example of over quoting. Thank you. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE82+DeOeQkq5KdzaARAsQtAKDEvLOgGKo43MS4gnleW5I0pCKrywCg7+mv GBEbQefoJIElu84ZWboMXpw= =W6Q7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
Hello John, On Fri, 10 May 2002 15:42:40 +0100GMT (10-5-02, 16:42 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JG I have run into a problem when i go to export messages into the eml JG format. I started using Mailbag Assistant yesterday, and went to JG create an archive. However, of the 15000+ message headers, about 2 JG thousand or so were garbage, somehow corrupted. Funnily enough, they JG all seem to originate from this list. Can you read those messages TB? What's the problem with them? Do they collect unprintable characters or whatever, or are they off set, headers and body not good separated? In case of the latter your indexfile(s) (.tbi) might've gone bad, delete them and TB will create new ones. In the first case you might've had some disk problems so your messagebase got corrupted, no help's available then. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
Hello Roelof, Friday, May 10, 2002, 4:38:56 PM, you wrote: RO Can you read those messages TB? Yes, I can read the messages perfectly in TB, and also when I export them to .msg files. RO What's the problem with them? Do they collect unprintable characters RO or whatever, or are they off set, headers and body not good separated? I took a screenshot of what I am getting in Mailbag Assistant. It is available here. http://ethernetsim.i8.com/Mailbag.gif RO In case of the latter your indexfile(s) (.tbi) might've gone bad, RO delete them and TB will create new ones. In the first case you RO might've had some disk problems so your messagebase got corrupted, no RO help's available then. I tried to delete the index files in the affected folders, with no luck. Mailbag still can't pick them all up, and I still can't export all of them to .eml format. Any other possible reasons why this could be happening? apart from their possibly being disk problems. I'm trying not to give up:-) Thanks for responding. -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Lock ups
Replying to your message of Friday, May 10, 2002, 9:01:47 AM: MDP Have you tried stopping Outpost and seeing how TB behaves then. MDP Alternatively TPF come highly recommended and has no side effects like MDP this. No, I will try it with Outpost off and see if it happens. It really doesn't happen enough to yell about it but thought I would ask regardless. Don't care much for TPF though. Thanks, -- Pete Friday, May 10, 2002 9:52:23 AM This e-mail is brought to you by The Bat: Version 1.60h Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
Hello John, On Fri, 10 May 2002 16:54:30 +0100GMT (10-5-02, 17:54 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JG Yes, I can read the messages perfectly in TB, and also when I export JG them to .msg files. That means you're not without hope. ;-) JG I took a screenshot of what I am getting in Mailbag Assistant. It is JG available here. http://ethernetsim.i8.com/Mailbag.gif Doesn't really help me. JG I tried to delete the index files in the affected folders, with no JG luck. Mailbag still can't pick them all up, and I still can't export all of JG them to .eml format. You can't export to .eml, but you can export them to .msg? Apart from the extension those formats are identical. You can't export all of them, might that be due to an indexed view of the folder? (Select view threads by none, select all msg's and try to export them again.) Or am I reading you wrong and can you export all to .msg but not to .eml, you could try to export to .msg and rename them. (Flash renamer, http://www.rlvision.com, is an excellent freeware tool to do mass renames) JG Any other possible reasons why this could be happening? apart from JG their possibly being disk problems. Since you still can read the messages with TB I don't think it's likely a disk problem. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What Microsoft does better than TheBat
Hello Daniel! On Friday, May 10, 2002 at 2:21:19 PM you wrote: Yes but if I stated it that way, that would be [oh horror of horrors] plagiarism. (But, you may say, that is why the Good Lord made your eyes. No. You stated the source; if you hadn't, but would have said As I always say ..., it would be plagiarism. Otherwise it's just a citation. BTW, it is from a song and therefore one could even argue that you could cite as much as is sung in eight bars ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60j on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Computer games don't affect kids: If Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. (Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... (Flash renamer, http://www.rlvision.com, is an excellent freeware tool to do mass renames) Or DOS rename *.msg *.eml ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
Hello Roelof, Friday, May 10, 2002, 5:32:27 PM, you wrote: RO That means you're not without hope. ;-) Thankfully I wasn't. I worked with u're idea that I might have had a disk problem. I backed up all my accounts etc, burnt them to a cd, and transferred them to another computer, installed TB, restored accounts, installed MailBag Assistant, and tried again. This time it worked. Mailbag Assistant was able to retrieve the headers of all my emails correctly. I then tried again to export all my emails to .eml format, and this time, it worked. SO, I did what I should have done originally, uninstalled TB, and reinstalled it onto my second hard drive, and lo and behold, everything works perfectly. I'm putting it down to errors on my hard drive. It does seem strange however, that I was able to export ALL the emails to .msg format, but not all of them to .eml format, eventhough they are the same as u pointed out. Still, I've done enough thinking for today. Thanks for the help everyone, much appreciated. -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Reply to template
I want a Quick Template that I use when either clicking the Reply to the selected message or Create new message icon on the toolbar. How do I get it to put in a standard address that is always the same? -- Best regards, Jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting to .eml error
Hello Jonathan, On Fri, 10 May 2002 11:34:30 -0500GMT (10-5-02, 18:34 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: (Flash renamer, http://www.rlvision.com, is an excellent freeware tool to do mass renames) JA Or DOS rename *.msg *.eml ;) You're right of course, though I'm not sure why I thought that that wouldn't work. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
comments and a request
Hi, I'll start with the request to save time: I recently had a problem sending mail, and got into a forceful discussion with my ISP who tried to imply it was my beloved mail client. Since The Bat! is not on their approved mail client list, the burden fell on me to prove that it wasn't the culprit. I ended up using a freeware program to open a raw connection to the SMTP in order to send SMTP commands. Thus I was able to prove their server was shutting down my connection because of a faulty routing mechanism in their configuration. All the time I was thinking, BOY, this is what The Bat! staff should have added instead of that ridiculous scratch pad. I therefore request you kill SmartBat or at least take it off of my window title bar. I further request that you add a raw SMTP\POP3 tool that can let me get down-n-dirty with my mail server. If you'd like an example of how it should look, check out Internet Maniac's Raw Connect feature. For an example of how NOT to implement it, check out Internet Genius' SMTP feature. Additional comments: I've been using The Bat! since version 1.2([0-9][a-z]), and I've been a solid fan, having found no comparison in the likes of Pegasus, Eudora, and the bloated hostware\spyware called Outlook. I've always loved the laser-focus of this product. Best mail tool period. Kick-ass functionality with premiums placed on speed and efficiency. I've gotten at least five of my friends hooked. That being said, this damn Smart Bat is very much a step in the wrong direction. I have many, many choices for a freeware scratchpad, of which even the average matches the SB functionality and is more configurable. I won't even go there with the 'Known Folder'. In short : BE CAREFUL. You are flirting with that developer's siren, Bloatware. And when you have added an ill-conceived, it is very hard to phase remove, but I'd bet money that the majority of your users won't be sad to see Smart Bat go the way of the Dodo. And don't give me some response about 'don't like it, don't use it' because that's not the point and you know it. Long live The Bat! Rich Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TheBat and ZoneAlarm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, May 9, 2002, 12:13 AM, you wrote: ACM The other thing is that when I used to use a dial-up connection, I'd ACM suddenly lose internet connectivity and then have problems connecting ACM back to the service, and if I did manage to connect I'd not get a ACM working internet connection going for the first few successful ACM connections. This problem would appear if my Win2k system hadn't been ACM booted for more than a few days. A restart of Win2K would cure this. I ACM thought it was a problem with Win2k for a long time until I ACM uninstalled ZoneAlarm. Never had connectivity problems requiring a ACM reboot since, even after a month or more of uptime ( a power failure ACM would usually interrupt the uptimes). If you reboot often, then you ACM will likely not experience these problems. You may not experience ACM problems at all. What I know is that my problems were very real and ACM very similar to problems reported by other ZA users. We cured the ACM symptoms by removing ZA from our systems. shrug I had this problem recently and I'm not sure what the answer was, but I turned off the capability of the PC to autodial, and it hasn't done it since. I have TB 1.60i installed, but not ever ZA. I am using BlackIce. I also had seti screensaver installed and set to autodial, changed it to never dial. I am running winXP also. / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNwGOj3ZlJQqDEkFEQL4kACg8q4BAQWbFHiiFwt9PznnEVxWLKMAn2Pg fuSascH2cSEJJ7JKXLs0ihDq =BlpW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Reply to template
Hello Jon. At 1:15 PM on Friday, May 10, 2002 you wrote the following about [Reply to template]: Jon I want a Quick Template that I use when either clicking Jon the Reply to the selected message or Create new Jon message icon on the toolbar. How do I get it to put in Jon a standard address that is always the same? Not to be flip, but look in the help area under macros, paying special attention to the address related Macros section. Since I'm not sure what address you are referring to, there are a # of possibilities. Pick the one you want enter it in a reply template for the account, group or AB entry of your choice. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60c/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: What Microsoft does better than TheBat
Hello Jonathan, The best manuals I've ever come across are produce by 3rd parties. As ever occurred do someone to ask for such a thing to be procuced, say by O'Reilly? I'd be one to by a copy if one happens to show. Although O'Reilly are a third party, a lot of the time, they call in assistance from the masterminds in the field, and often people that are involved in the original product/service in the first place. With The Bat there is a very good start. The FAQ has a good maintainer. Probably a good start point to. -- Best regards, Luís Avelino Relógio Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Reply to template
Hello Jan, Sorted now, thanks. -- Best regards, Jon Friday, May 10, 2002, 6:51:05 PM, you wrote: JR Hello Jon. JR At 1:15 PM on Friday, May 10, 2002 you wrote the following JR about [Reply to template]: Jon I want a Quick Template that I use when either clicking Jon the Reply to the selected message or Create new Jon message icon on the toolbar. How do I get it to put in Jon a standard address that is always the same? JR Not to be flip, but look in the help area under macros, JR paying special attention to the address related Macros JR section. JR Since I'm not sure what address you are referring to, JR there are a # of possibilities. Pick the one you want JR enter it in a reply template for the account, group or AB JR entry of your choice. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
STARTTLS
Hi, I just wonder whether anybody has tried the STARTLS feature with SMTP and sendmail. It seems to work with postfix but not with sendmail. (Mozila and Outlook Express work with STARTTLS and sendmail btw.) So I'm a bit confused now but I believe it is a problem with The Bat since the feature is relatively new in The Bat. May 10 20:11:31 belfast sendmail[1297]: g4AIBVF1001297: --- 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS May 10 20:11:31 belfast sendmail[1297]: STARTTLS=server, error: accept failed=0, SSL_error=1, timedout=0 May 10 20:11:31 belfast sendmail[1297]: STARTTLS=server: 1297:error:140943F2:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert unexpected message:s3_pkt.c:985:SSL alert number 10 Mario Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Marck, My MUA believes you used Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.60d/iKey1000) to write the following on Friday, May 3, 2002 at 10:43:32 PM. They all look like this. Are the folder templates filled in from the Account templates? That is where I defined this. MDP Okay - that makes sense and matches. I still think you have a rogue MDP Reply template in the properties of one of your folders. Or perhaps MDP it leaked into an address book entry? Ok, it happened again (BCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == cut from kludge) and was almost a big problem this time (financial info included). I was saved because the list thought the msg was too big. Is there any easy way for me to check through everything for a string? for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]? I am having no luck looking around manually (not even sure what I would be looking for, but have been looking for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). TIA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food? Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Tim Musson wrote... Ok, it happened again (BCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == cut from kludge) and was almost a big problem this time (financial info included). I was saved because the list thought the msg was too big. Are you using folder templates, or address book templates? Is there any easy way for me to check through everything for a string? for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Is it only your dad's address causing this problem, or is it all of them? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Sending Messages hangs up
El jueves 9 de mayo de 2002, 20.08, Robert decía: R The messages remained in the OutBox. I hit Send and got the R message R that there was nothing to send!! I have exactly the same problem, plus sometimes the messages get parked in the outbox and sometimes they don't. It's a very random bug. -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c This is a follow up to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @10 May 2002, 16:03:21 -0400 (21:03 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, it happened again (BCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == cut from kludge) and was almost a big problem this time (financial info included). I was saved because the list thought the msg was too big. Is there any easy way for me to check through everything for a string? for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]? I am having no luck looking around manually (not even sure what I would be looking for, but have been looking for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). How are you with GREP? Or some kind of file search tool. Look for BCC in your ABD files and your CFG files at a raw level if you can. Context may show you what's going on there. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83DVBOeQkq5KdzaARAhwfAKDg+f/L2MRGTToF8bZlBefBCyxBOQCgm1ej aLJyj6NhPHaEr6DBxijhQw8= =5HNi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Change Appearance of Zero?
G'day Markus Friday, May 10, 2002, 11:04:08 AM, you wrote (in part): MG I use Andale Mono which has a dot in the zero. Thanks. That will solve my friend's problem. Also appreciate the URL you provided. -- Cordially Kara[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
Richard Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ridiculous scratch pad. I therefore request you kill SmartBat or at least take it off of my window title bar. I further request that you add a raw SMTP\POP3 tool that can let me get down-n-dirty with my mail server. Unless I'm missing something, there is no need for such a tool. Just use your browser like this: telnet://your_mail_server:25 for smtp or :110 for pop3, and you can have all the raw interaction you want. I certainly agree with you on the scratch pad. There are plenty capable clipboard extenders available which have the added advantage of being usable outside of TB!. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello folks, Thanks for the help on the illegal date error. I solved it by exporting my address book, chosing only certain fields, (no birthdays) and then deleting and reimporting my address book. Bit of a pain, no idea why the programmer doesn't simply zap the bad date instead! But oh well, if only The Bat! was open source. My next hurdle is this, and again I feel like it is so close yet so far from being solved. I have about about 8 different pop accounts to check. Some times I get mail from the same sources such as friends and various web sites and it can come in on any one of these accounts. Or another case, because of the way Yahoo Groups works if I am having problems with an email account or if I change an email address, I can change all of my yahoo groups in a flash to use a different account. My bright idea was to set up a general catch all filter to send all mail from all my accounts to one Unsorted Mail folder outside of any accounts, and then create additional filters to get things into all the various email list folders, VIP folder, SPAM folder etc. So I create all these various folders and filters and spend quite a bit of time mucking about. So far so good, but ooops! TB! Won't let me set up a filter outside of an account that will operate on unread messages! It insists on only filtering messages that have been marked as read. Apparently the only place I can filter unread messages in in the InBox folders for each account, forcing me to replicate every filter on every account, which is really sort of a pain. What I really wish is that I could tell TB! to please put all of my incoming mail, regardless of account into one central folder and let me decide at that point what to do with it! Probably I am just missing something! Can anyone assist? - -- Best regards, Robin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNxEFhbAIbkOlqTtEQJgCwCgvaGZdM7CER6E1EI8gI6jZJeSHg0AoI7c kjSJbjNL/r8tLBq+pmCrquJx =Kwqa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: nonstandard headers
On Friday, May 10, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote to TBUDL: RO MLC It looks like the only way to specify non-standard headers is on a RO MLC message-by-message basis, editing by hand. RO You could try X-Ray. That's a freeware smtp-server you can install on RO your own pc. From the info I gather that it's developed with TB in RO mind. It has the possibility to insert headers and such. RO More info: http://www.xrayapp.com Thanks, and thanks to all who replied. I use Hamster as a local mail and newsserver. If I add Korrnews to the mix, I'll have total control over headers, and I guess that's what I'll do. Or I may continue to use my newsreader for most mailing lists, which is what I've done so far. -- Mike Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Sending Messages hangs up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo M. Reyes Suggested, in this reply: I have exactly the same problem, plus sometimes the messages get parked in the outbox and sometimes they don't. It's a very random bug. - - Yes, Ricardo -- that is it -- very random. Yet, it occurs at least once a day here. If anyone from RitLabs ever looks into it, it will be, perhaps, a nightmare since we can't seem to *cause* the problem to happen. It just *does* ... Thanks for the reply, Robert http://home1.gte.net/denstar/index.htm The Bat!: 1.60h Windows ME 4.90.3000. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPNxFNBUUkTAdFK9fEQIj9QCdHPA/GP93QKXOKk5uB9OyVZmfeqIAoJq4 xkHK3TPtSCZc3QT0toF36Fuy =K63L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TheBat and ZoneAlarm
Hello Peter Fjelsten, On Wed, 8 May 2002 16:07:04 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, May 8, 2002, 9:07:04 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Peter Fjelsten wrote: Thomas, On 07-05-2002 07:50, you wrote: T Or have i misunderstood something in Zone Alarm Version 3 Pro! OK I use ZAP3 as well and I have allowed TheBat to connect as a mail program for the internet. I have no problems. I don't understand your setup with the Trusted and Internet zones. All my programs are in the Internet Zone and allowed to connect/accept connection on certain ports. If I remember correctly in the past there was a problem having to allow the pop server and / or smtp to be a trusted destination... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60j mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB! version 1.60k?
Hello Jonathan Angliss, On Wed, 8 May 2002 04:57:58 -0500 (CDT) GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, May 8, 2002, 4:57:58 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jonathan Angliss wrote: On Wed, 8 May 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Hmm this is confusing for me. Let's work it through - we're talking about a beta plug-in for post-release fix versions of The Bat! only available for download from the beta site. That's two beta's and one release. Arithmetic says it's a beta issue. Another confusing thing... if we are only able to download up to 1.60i(j?)... and there is a known bug that stops the AVG working with 1.60e-j... then what is the point on announcing the new beta release of te AVG to us... when there'd be no point trying to test it? As this isnt the beta newslist, why not ask these and related questions there? At present BOTH lists have the same questions about betas which kind of defeats the purpose of having the beta list and means one has to check and search 2 lists for specific problems. Mark, why not make beta questions on the normal list a dead horse??? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60j mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TheBat and ZoneAlarm
Hello Allie C Martin, On Wed, 8 May 2002 14:55:33 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, May 9, 2002, 2:55:33 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: 3w [3] wrote: ... 3 Fact is that ZA is well known, however, it's not the *best* 3 firewall at all. I hope no one of this fine list will ever have 3 the fights I had trying to uninstall it because of a serious 3 malfunction it produces sometimes with MS Operating Systems. 3 MS Knowledge Base indicates '...uninstall ZoneAlarm...' and so 3 on. It ended up in a complete re-install... thanks to ZA. 3 Check it out, save resources of your machine and stop having 3 troubles with firewalls. You'll love TPF. ;-) I completely agree here and this is based on personal experience and what I've witnessed on this as well as other lists where many testify problems with ZA. Its very e asy by answering yes unintendedly to block the whole system from having access to any website and with latest Klez virus infections if zonealarm was damaged it had to be totally reinstalled to get access... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60j mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 None [N] wrote: ... N Apparently the only place I can filter unread messages in in the N InBox folders for each account, forcing me to replicate every N filter on every account, which is really sort of a pain. What I N really wish is that I could tell TB! to please put all of my N incoming mail, regardless of account into one central folder and N let me decide at that point what to do with it! Probably I am just N missing something! Can anyone assist? You really have no choice but to create a filter for each of your account to move all messages to this central folder you are referring to. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60k | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83FlmV8nrYCsHF+IRAmvnAJ4teuR+i72WaVkRSMiidirm7FXktgCgowQz Th10InS0QEyqLi2mJp8O5Nw= =sHrV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Friday, May 10, 2002, 6:36:05 PM, you wrote: N Apparently the only place I can filter unread messages in in the N InBox folders for each account, forcing me to replicate every N filter on every account, which is really sort of a pain. What I N really wish is that I could tell TB! to please put all of my N incoming mail, regardless of account into one central folder and N let me decide at that point what to do with it! Probably I am just N missing something! Can anyone assist? ACM You really have no choice but to create a filter for each of your ACM account to move all messages to this central folder you are referring ACM to. Actually I did that, but then once they are in the central folder you can't filter them out unless they are read. Filters on folders outside of an account for some reason cannot be operated upon by filters unless they have been marked as read. This is not very workable because if I do mark them all as read and then filter them to the various folders for the lists and so on, I can no longer tell which folders have new messages. - -- Robin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNxdchbAIbkOlqTtEQIk9wCgnTeMF6W2Y+qOjuvaGJzrLs7mI1QAn3L0 hhGiP3z+bDKeRX74GbealglN =f0P6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 None [N] wrote: ... N Actually I did that, but then once they are in the central folder N you can't filter them out unless they are read. Filters on N folders outside of an account for some reason cannot be operated N upon by filters unless they have been marked as read. This is not N very workable because if I do mark them all as read and then filter N them to the various folders for the lists and so on, I can no N longer tell which folders have new messages. That sounds like buggy behaviour to me. You should report this one. For the time being you'll have to create this central folder within an account. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60k | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE83F51V8nrYCsHF+IRAhv7AKCSRHs8ONx94VqV0PVknLy7BkjT+gCcD6Mk 15ocQCO+Q5amYVva68MeSlo= =jdTf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Problems with duplicates
TheBat-users, In the last couple of days I have been getting a lot of duplicate messages (messages up to a week old suddenly arrive in my mailboxes again). Is this a known problem? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.60c /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Friday, May 10, 2002, 6:57:40 PM, you wrote: N Actually I did that, but then once they are in the central folder N you can't filter them out unless they are read. Filters on N folders outside of an account for some reason cannot be operated N upon by filters unless they have been marked as read. This is not N very workable because if I do mark them all as read and then filter N them to the various folders for the lists and so on, I can no N longer tell which folders have new messages. ACM That sounds like buggy behaviour to me. You should report this one. ACM For the time being you'll have to create this central folder within an ACM account. Thanks for the reply. This doesn't work either. When you set up a filter dealing with Incoming Mail, the Source Folder cannot be changed from Inbox to my new central folder. It seems that Incoming Mail can only be sorted on a per-account basis, and only from the Inbox folder within the account. I might be able to move Inbox from account1,2,3 to the Inbox of a new dummy accountz, I haven't tried that yet. - -- Best regards, Robin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNxiYBbAIbkOlqTtEQIKBgCbBrFaHlxq/VC1gI/ajVyx6fhT/swAoPc8 SXU4dyv5DL1CfJxA5vFBmPfF =kknt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
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One even do not need that. It's enough to make a txt file and write
in the first line .LOG. It will do what SmartBat ;-) is doing. And
would free some memory in TB for something useful.
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Re: Problems with duplicates
Hello Peter, Friday, May 10, 2002, 6:54:36 PM, in a galaxy far, far away, Peter wrote: Peter Fjelsten TheBat-users, Peter Fjelsten In the last couple of days I have been getting a lot of duplicate Peter Fjelsten messages (messages up to a week old suddenly arrive in my mailboxes Peter Fjelsten again). Peter Fjelsten Is this a known problem? It's a known Yahoo problem! I got two weeks worth of mail sent in one day from a Yahoo backlog on a couple of lists. Overran my mailbox capacity three times!!! :-( I have had this happen with a Yahoo POP3, but since they are trying to extort $40 a year for POP3 access, I don't have that problem anymore :) Unless your mail server is holding mail, it isn't a Bat! problem! If you're receiving mail at all from your server on a regular basis, then the problem isn't on your end! -- Regards, Spike -- Get a PERMANENT 100MB capacity mailbox for ONLY $29.95/year. No more lost mail due to mailbox capacity restrictions. Access by POP3 or Webmail! Earn a FREE mailbox with their referral program. (HINT - You get $11.00 towards your mailbox for each referral who signs up!) Apply NOW at http://1110.runbox.com -- Tired of getting every virus that comes along? Get The Bat! Virtually immune to virus attack. Does not use the Windows Address Book! http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html -- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Problems with duplicates
Spike, On 11-05-2002 02:43, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: S It's a known Yahoo problem! OK, some of the messages have arrived from Yahoo mailing lists, although they already arrived _one_ time. But some messages were also on this list. S Unless your mail server is holding mail, it isn't a Bat! problem! Yeah, that makes sense, except this never happened with Eudora (or _when_ I was using Eudora). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.60c /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 19:20 op vrijdag 10 mei 2002, Richard Butler: ridiculous scratch pad. I therefore request you kill SmartBat or at least take it off of my window title bar. I further request that you add a raw SMTP\POP3 tool that can let me get down-n-dirty with my mail server. i request you try putty in 'raw' mode to get down dirty with your mail-server. way more efficient. i also request that you learn SMTP and POP from their respective RFCs (i've posted the link earlier this week). furthermore i want to state that i absolutely LOVE the smartbat (my window title bar, the nerve). it's IDEAL to reformat pieces of text copied from somewhere that i want to paste somewhere where the windowsize is limited (IRC, for example). just assign a system-wide hotkey to it. there you have it. a positive note about the smartbat. thank you for your attention. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt7 iQA/AwUBPNxe4ktQMadp+KslEQIjyACfUqXUmhGt80lcLyY21iROvlgFhkQAoKuY 64X2QHr2u7EYQ6XoLfwkgYSb =nRT/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 None [N] wrote: ... N Thanks for the reply. This doesn't work either. When you set up a N filter dealing with Incoming Mail, the Source Folder cannot be N changed from Inbox to my new central folder. It seems that Incoming N Mail can only be sorted on a per-account basis, and only from the N Inbox folder within the account. I might be able to move Inbox from N account1,2,3 to the Inbox of a new dummy accountz, I haven't N tried that yet. That's what I meant. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60k | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD4DBQE83HMQV8nrYCsHF+IRAo+NAJiwd9KBeWCl304Nb9omUJCLXDtpAJ0Ww0hE DVUEqCogAIlEabJ2BGbFxg== =fAIj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Marck, My MUA believes you used Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.60d/iKey1000) to write the following on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 5:01:51 PM. I am having no luck looking around manually (not even sure what I would be looking for, but have been looking for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). MDP How are you with GREP? Or some kind of file search tool. been a *nix admin (NetWare M$ Win too) for the last 15 years or so... grep is very much my friend (vi too g). MDP Look for BCC in your ABD files and your CFG files at a raw MDP level if you can. Context may show you what's going on there. That is what I was looking for (which files) - thanks, will check it out. [as I put this msg in the outbox and check the kludges...] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why don't you ever see the headline Psychic Wins Lottery? Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal to write the following on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 4:10:25 PM. JA Are you using folder templates, or address book templates? As far as I know, neither... I only ever did anything with the templates in the Account Properties window. I do however have a Quick Template called 'perl' that looks like this %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%CC= so how/what is putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a BCC field is beyond me. JA Is it only your dad's address causing this problem, or is it all of JA them? Nope, this thread started because I replied to my dad and put my brother's address in the To field also, but today I gen'd a new msg to two people from my address book and it did the same thing. Also, I checked each person's templates and could find nothing... -frustrated- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why don't you ever see the headline Psychic Wins Lottery? Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
PGP
This may not be the place for this but I will try anyway. I am needing to start using it. This is totally new to me. I have looked at a few sites regarding it but they are a little too deep at this time. I see people here have their key on the emails they sent. Can someone explain how this process works and why the key would be out in public view...or does it matter? Thanks for your patience. --- Pete 7:35:02 PM --- Ask about eScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software. We will meet all of your Anti-Virus needs. www.milneweb.com Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: PGP
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Pete Milne wrote: This may not be the place for this but I will try anyway. I am needing to start using it. This is totally new to me. I have looked at a few sites regarding it but they are a little too deep at this time. A good question to start... is why do you think you need to start using it? I see people here have their key on the emails they sent. Can someone explain how this process works and why the key would be out in public view...or does it matter? With PGP, there are two types of keys (If I remember correctly). A public key, which everybody can have access to. This public key is used to encrypt data with the target audience being you (if only your public key was used). The other key is your secret key. This is kept to yourself (again, if I remember correctly, although Gnupg seems to allow exporting of secret keys). This secret key is used to decrypt your data, providing your password matches. You often find people signing their emails, so you can guarantee the email is from the source it claims to be from. PGP also includes functions like signing files, which creates a special signature for that file, onto which is tagged your public key. Together they reduce the ability to allow third parties to alter the file without the recipient knowing. They can use PGP to verify that the file has not been changed using the signed file. I personally don't use the PGP that comes with TB! as I have been running PGP as a stand alone program for years. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
Hey Dave, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal to write the following on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 5:17:59 PM. I further request that you add a raw SMTP\POP3 tool that can let me get down-n-dirty with my mail server. DG Unless I'm missing something, there is no need for such a tool. Just DG use your browser like this: telnet://your_mail_server:25 for smtp or DG :110 for pop3, and you can have all the raw interaction you want. Interesting, I never saw anyone do telnet://your_mail_server:25 from a browser before... I tried it and all it did is launch the native telnet application (which is what I usually do). Does it do something different on your machine? I used Win2k... (I tend to use Putty as Mrten also indicated - *much* better than the native telnet). I can't recall the RFC, but I made some notes ages ago on this. Here they are for any interested. The RFC gives the available commands and what the response codes indicate. # Notes by Timothy L Musson 1998/11/04 # telnet to a machine that responds to smtp on port 25 telnet smtp.domain.com 25 # issue the HELO command to start. HELO # issue the mail from command ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is what ever string you want) mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # issue the rcpt to command (this should be a valid address) rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # now the data command will allow you to do the rest.. data # Subject:the text you want on the subject line on the first line for a subject... # other text here goes into the message body. # end the mail message with a . on a line by itself. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Sorting Unread Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Friday, May 10, 2002, 8:25:35 PM, you wrote: N Thanks for the reply. This doesn't work either. When you set up a N filter dealing with Incoming Mail, the Source Folder cannot be N changed from Inbox to my new central folder. It seems that Incoming N Mail can only be sorted on a per-account basis, and only from the N Inbox folder within the account. I might be able to move Inbox from N account1,2,3 to the Inbox of a new dummy accountz, I haven't N tried that yet. ACM That's what I meant. I tried it and great news! It works exactly as I wanted it to. Thanks for the encouragement :) - -- Best regards, Robin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNx63RbAIbkOlqTtEQKUkQCg97S0FdJNyHtPZ5dGe0Y21P+M0oEAnRqR 2k/L9WL2DDJcHuCy5t3YpaFe =qOlq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Tim Musson wrote: Hey Jonathan, JA Are you using folder templates, or address book templates? I do however have a Quick Template called 'perl' that looks like this %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%CC= so how/what is putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a BCC field is beyond me. This may be a really really stupid question. But doesn't that macro clear the TO field, set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and clear the CC field? If so, why would you want to use this on an account template, and not just create an address book template just for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or have I completely missed the functions in this macro? As for it dropping the address into the BCC, I have absolutely no idea ;) -frustrated- Understandable... I'd be in exactly the same state if personal information was getting to the wrong people ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete, Friday, May 10, 2002, 9:37:53 PM, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PM This may not be the place for this but I will try anyway. I am PM needing to start using it. This is totally new to me. I have looked PM at a few sites regarding it but they are a little too deep at this PM time. Subscribe to the PGP Basics Group. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on the e-mail list to help you. Send an e-mail here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i Under Windows XP 51 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPNx7kpxluNZA1PPZEQIRTACeI28y92m2jeewSB9ZREvyNwJKh+AAn1UD BryMFLnUw53V61ibSAeIHZkt =M4bY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: comments and a request
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Tim Musson wrote: Interesting, I never saw anyone do telnet://your_mail_server:25 from a browser before... I tried it and all it did is launch the native telnet application (which is what I usually do). Does it do something different on your machine? I used Win2k... (I tend to use Putty as Mrten also indicated - *much* better than the native telnet). I'd probably have used telnet straight off for testing. No need to go searching for that ellusive program ;) If you find that during the telnet tests, your connection is still being dropped by your ISP, then they probably need to investigate, as it sounds like the mail server timeout is set waaay to low. I can't recall the RFC, but I made some notes ages ago on this. Here they are for any interested. The RFC gives the available commands and what the response codes indicate. I use these frequently to test mail servers for open relays. One of the easiest ways than going ahead, modifying mail client settings, sending mail, changing then back... just pop open telnet/CRT/SecureCRT/Putty (or your choice), and connect :) I think the RFC you were refering to was RFC 2920. snipped RFC commands which can be found at www.rfc-editor.org -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set) to write the following on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 9:54:13 PM. I do however have a Quick Template called 'perl' that looks like this %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%CC= so how/what is putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a BCC field is beyond me. JA This may be a really really stupid question. But doesn't that macro clear JA the TO field, set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and clear the CC field? Not a stupid question g And, yes it does clear both the To: and Cc: fields, then put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field. JA If so, why would you want to use this on an account template, and JA not just create an address book template just for JA [EMAIL PROTECTED]? because I usually do a reply to a message (kind of like this one), not a new message from the address book. Here is an example cut from the kludges (with names add's changed to protect somebody or other... :-) From: C O [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: E W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Reply-To: not set like on TBUDL... JA Or have I completely missed the functions in this macro? I know, it sounds odd, but it has to do with the list software and how it is configured... For some reason (and yes, the moderators and users are in agreement on this... - the 'why' question pops up every few months, and I seem to recall RFC's or some such being quoted) that comunity (and may others like it from what I understand) have the default reply to listed as the person who sent the message to the list! So if I want to reply to the list, I need to clear the To: field (and frequently the Cc: filed) and address it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] JA As for it dropping the address into the BCC, I have absolutely no JA idea ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Buffet. A French word that means Get up get it yourself! Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Tim Musson wrote: Hey Jonathan, JA This may be a really really stupid question. But doesn't that macro clear JA the TO field, set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and clear the CC field? Not a stupid question g And, yes it does clear both the To: and Cc: fields, then put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field. Gotcha... Doesn't that make more work on your part if you just wanted to reply to say your dad? I mean, you have to go ahead, strip out the list, readd your dad's email etc etc. Or does he have a special AB template? JA If so, why would you want to use this on an account template, and JA not just create an address book template just for JA [EMAIL PROTECTED]? because I usually do a reply to a message (kind of like this one), not a new message from the address book. But you can set reply templates as well. I use them on here, and on other lists (even ones that don't have the reply-to set) JA Or have I completely missed the functions in this macro? I know, it sounds odd, but it has to do with the list software and how it is configured... For some reason (and yes, the moderators and users are in agreement on this... - the 'why' question pops up every few months, and I seem to recall RFC's or some such being quoted) that comunity (and may others like it from what I understand) have the default reply to listed as the person who sent the message to the list! So if I want to reply to the list, I need to clear the To: field (and frequently the Cc: filed) and address it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, it doesn't sound odd at all. I'm on about 3 mailing lists that are setup in exactly the same way. Purely because it gets a lot of outside posters, it forces the mail client to reply to that outside poster instead of the list, in case the poster isn't subbed on the list. Can you not create an AB template (for Reply) for [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then in that template, get it to clear everything? I'll test it on Monday on one of the lists I'm on, but I cannot see a reason it wouldn't work if say you hit the REPLY-ALL button, instead of just the reply... but I could be mistaken on how that kind of setup would work. I'll give it a go ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: PGP
Replying to your message of Friday, May 10, 2002, 7:50:23 PM: JA A good question to start... is why do you think you need to start using JA it? Well, I am wanting to make sure the mail I send to certain clients is exactly what I sent. I got to reading about it, seems like a lot of work to me. -- Pete Friday, May 10, 2002 8:37:19 PM This e-mail is brought to you by The Bat: Version 1.60h Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Tim, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60h) Personal to write the following on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 9:34:02 PM. I am having no luck looking around manually (not even sure what I would be looking for, but have been looking for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). MDP How are you with GREP? Or some kind of file search tool. MDP Look for BCC in your ABD files and your CFG files at a raw MDP level if you can. Context may show you what's going on there. TM That is what I was looking for (which files) - thanks, will check it TM out. I checked all files in my TB folder, my TB/Mail folder, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder. No luck finding any BCC string associated with a perl string... A lot of the files are binary or at least not ascii, so I am not sure the search was all that through. I used grep and TextPad to search. Any other ideas? or am I back to searching the properties of a hundred folders, etc.? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) How do you make Windows faster ? Throw it harder Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: PGP
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Pete Milne wrote: Replying to your message of Friday, May 10, 2002, 7:50:23 PM: JA A good question to start... is why do you think you need to start using JA it? Well, I am wanting to make sure the mail I send to certain clients is exactly what I sent. I got to reading about it, seems like a lot of work to me. In some situations it is. You have to consider that they are going to need PGP at the other end if you're signing text, and files, otherwise they'll never know the truth. TB! has a built in PGP you may want to look into. I'm not sure what the docs are like on it though. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set) to write the following on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 10:29:49 PM. Not a stupid question g And, yes it does clear both the To: and Cc: fields, then put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field. JA Gotcha... Doesn't that make more work on your part if you just wanted to JA reply to say your dad? I mean, you have to go ahead, strip out the list, JA readd your dad's email etc etc. Or does he have a special AB template? Nope, dad is not on the perl list or even associated with it - that is part of the problem. I sent him a message, and when it went out it had the perl list in the bcc field! And today, I sent a msg to some people at my church (again not associated with the perl list and that msg had a bcc to the perl list!) - this one had financial info attached. Fortunately, the perl list has a size limitation and rejected it! I only use the 'perl' QT when repling to the messages on the perl list. I do my reply, put the string 'perl' on a blank line, then with the cursor on the same line hit ctrl+space and it fixes the To:/Cc: fields... JA But you can set reply templates as well. I use them on here, and on other JA lists (even ones that don't have the reply-to set) Will look into that, I seem to recall asking on TBUDL and this was the solution that was presented. Probably 18m - 2yrs ago. JA Can you not create an AB template (for Reply) for [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JA then in that template, get it to clear everything? I'll test it on Monday JA on one of the lists I'm on, but I cannot see a reason it wouldn't work if JA say you hit the REPLY-ALL button, instead of just the reply... but I could JA be mistaken on how that kind of setup would work. I'll give it a go ;) Will look at it next time I get on my ThinkPad, time for me to shut down. g Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Default BCC: address
How can I create a default address to be entered in one of the recipient blocks? I would like all of my mail being sent from a remote machine to be bcc'd to me. What/where can I enter on the remote version of TB!? -- JN Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What Microsoft does better than TheBat
At Thursday, May 9, 2002, 1:52:16 AM, Dwight wrote: On Wednesday, May 8, 2002, 10:36:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good manuals are as important to success as good code! Good online help is better. I should add, most of what is available is not good. It may be ok if you know what you are looking for, but if you don't know what it is called, you're out of luck. while I am less impressed with MS manuals than you are, Microsof online help isn't all that wonderful - but there are a lot of nnn for dummies|idiots etc, and a lot of more advanced books available from third-party publishers. These won't publish unless they perceive a large user base... I wholeheartedly agree with your assertion that improved documentation is one of the greatest needs for TB! One could even make a case better documentation was more important than 2.x SO, TheBat has to have fantastic online help and PDF, because it's unlikely to find a publisher. -- Mikemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: PGP
Hello Pete Milne, On Friday, May 10 2002 at 06:37 PM PDT, you wrote: This may not be the place for this but I will try anyway. I am needing to start using it. This is totally new to me. I have looked at a few sites regarding it but they are a little too deep at this time. It can be a daunting task for someone new to PGP, and so my advice is to join our PGP-Basics Group. We will walk you through the initial stages and have you up to speed in no time. When you join, you will receive a List Manual that has a lot of information in it specifically designed for new Users. Here is the Mailto Link to join: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
