Re: Column Headings - Managing for All Folders

2002-05-21 Thread Chris Montgomery

Hello Michael,

Great, thanks! The below URL was off a bit, but poking around I found
this worked: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt. The
list is for an older version, but at least it's a good start.

Chris

Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 1:00:44 AM, you wrote:

 On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Chris Montgomery wrote to TBUDL:

 Has anyone ever come up with a master list if
 keyboard shortcuts? I think that would be pretty helpful.

 Someone here was kind enough to give me this link last week.

 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html



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Autocomplete ate my mail

2002-05-21 Thread justine lera


Sorry about the resend - my mail may have been misthreaded ...


Hi all!

Hopefully someone can help - I composed an email (a crucial one of
course), started to type in the email address, when the window shut,
and TB! closed.  No draft was saved, nothing in the outbox, and the
email has evaporated.  Three and a half years of flawless service from
the programme and now this!

What happened?  What can I do to retrieve the email? (if anything?)

Cheers
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keyboard shortcuts (was: Column Headings - Managing for All Folders)

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Chris Montgomery wrote to TBUDL:

 Someone here was kind enough to give me this link last week.

 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

 Great, thanks! The below URL was off a bit, but poking around I
 found this worked:
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt. The list is for
 an older version, but at least it's a good start.

I changed 'below URL' to 'above URL'  ;)

The first URL works for me, and has shortcuts for v1.60.  Clicking it
in TB!'s viewer opens my browser and takes me strait there.  If you're
using cut-and-paste, take off the angled brackets, and if you're
typing it out, make sure there's an underscore between shortcut and
eng.html.  If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.

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Re: Help Needed

2002-05-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Michael!

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 6:01:55 AM you wrote:

 Is there any way to download 1.53h or another version without having to
 pay a second time?  I may be without my laptop for a week or more.

1. Just download the current version (1.60m) from RITLabs.
2. Install it over your version.
3. Enter your registration info - hopefully you have saved your key
and password somewhere.

If you have lost your password, there is a retrieval at RITLabs
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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas F

Hello Christopher,

On Mon, 20 May 2002 21:24:52 +0100 GMT (21/05/02, 03:24 +0700 GMT),
Christopher Taylor-Davies wrote:

CTD It does all work if I manually check on the work account for mail
CTD before sending, it would be good if it was automatic.

Workaround: set TB so that it checks your work email every 5 minutes.
AFAIK a POP check leaves the SMTP server open for 10 minutes, so
whenever you want to send anything, a POP check has just occurred
within the time frame.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Tim,

 G...  The hassle I have been through keeping 2 ISP PW's in sync
 for my wife!  No longer g

You owe me a beer then ;-)

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Thomas,

21 May 2002, 08:45:21, you wrote:

 Workaround: set TB so that it checks your work email every 5 minutes.
 AFAIK a POP check leaves the SMTP server open for 10 minutes, so
 whenever you want to send anything, a POP check has just occurred
 within the time frame.

That would work, but beware that the authenticated window way vary from server
to server. We've set up ours so people have 60 minutes after a
POP3-authentication in which to send mail using SMTP.

Still we get a lot of customers with problems... All due to the stupid
Microsoft programs insisting on sending mail before checking mail... :-(

Yours,
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Re: Converting incoming html email to Plain Text or omitting it altogether

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas F

Hello Carlton,

On Mon, 20 May 2002 19:27:25 -0700 GMT (21/05/02, 09:27 +0700 GMT),
BUY ON TV Real Estate Network wrote:

BOTREN Do I just insert the code below into my template, substituting
BOTREN my own paths, etc., or does this info get pasted somewhere
BOTREN else?

The way I see it, you just put the .bat file (which is a plain text
file but with the extension .bat instead of .txt) on your hard disk
and run it.

BOTREN I'm also not sure about the second command in the above batch file
BOTREN Do I use c:\progra~1\thebat~ or the path to The Bat on my system?

Your path. And this will stat TB (if it isn't running yet) and send
the mails. You see, TB has a command-line interface too (see Help /
Index / Command Line Parameters for more info).

It makes sense to copy the whole thing:

c:\progra~1\thebat~1\thebat.exe/maila=g:\autofoto\%%f;t=g:\autofoto\sillytext.txt;s=Voicemail
 for Carlton in file %%f
 ^here TB is being called
   ^you see this is a slash and not a
   backslash; the parameters start.

BOTREN By the way, I'm using the 30-day trial version of the Bat until I know
BOTREN I can do with it what I want, and then I will buy it. I have set up alot
BOTREN of filters  directories with my trial version that I don't want to lose
BOTREN after the 30-days expires, and I'm not sure I will be able to properly
BOTREN test everything within the 30 days. Do you know what happens after
BOTREN the 30 days?

You get a warning that the 30 days are up, and an offer to extend for
another 30 days' grant. You have to send an email to Rit (email
address automatically provided) for the extension.

After that, your microwave will freeze over, your cat will eat your
socks, and your CD-ROM drive will refuse to work as a cup holder.

BOTREN I don't want to lose all my settings, filters and directories
BOTREN (there are 96).

There are people who actually buy The Bat! and pay up, so that this
doesn't happen. ;-)

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 7:45:21 AM, Thomas wrote:

 Workaround: set TB so that it checks your work email every 5 minutes.
 AFAIK a POP check leaves the SMTP server open for 10 minutes, so
 whenever you want to send anything, a POP check has just occurred
 within the time frame.

Thanks for the tip - I can set that for my machine quite happily. I
have also purchased TB for my wife's computer and I was hoping to set
it up so that she could send mail without having to define my work
settings there as well.

Others have suggested a local SMTP service which I hadn't even thought
of, so I will investigate and see if any of them will work with my
ADSL router (the free one requires a direct connection).

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[OT] Re: Archives?

2002-05-21 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 19:12, Syafril Hermansyah wrote:

 Maybe you need to force refresh (shift plus refresh key) so your
 proxy will update the cache.

What's the difference between hitting the refresh key and
shift-hitting it? Are you talking about IE or some other web client?

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Paul Wilson,

On Monday, May 20 2002 at 05:10 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I don't know what I am doing wrong. I have gone through the help file
 with a fine tooth comb.
 Any help would be appreciated.

Open ADR/General Settings/Server and check that you have localhost
listed under local domain, and that you have 127.0.0.1, 10.*.*.*, 192.168.*.* 
listed under allowed IP's. What do you have listed under
the Proxy and Actions tabs?


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Re: [OT] Re: Archives?

2002-05-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Marcus!

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 9:57:00 AM you wrote:

 What's the difference between hitting the refresh key and
 shift-hitting it? Are you talking about IE or some other web client?

IIRC IE refreshes its pages from cache if you just Refresh. You need
to use Shift+Refresh to force IE to call the page again from the
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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On Tue, 21 May 2002 09:05:18 +0100 Christopher Taylor-Davies
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 Others have suggested a local SMTP service which I hadn't even thought
 of, so I will investigate and see if any of them will work with my
 ADSL router (the free one requires a direct connection).
 
 Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 

You are using XP eh.., you can activate IIS-SMTP then. IMHO IIS SMTP5
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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

On Monday, May 20, 2002, 11:48:55 PM, Chris wrote:

 I am using the latter because it is free but there is a 30day trial
 for Advanced Direct Remailer and is a superb piece of software.

Thanks for the recommendation Chris, I am using ADR on trial now, and
it seems to be sending correctly. The only downside I can see is that
when it fails over to sending via ISP it will encounter the same
problem (I think). Norton AntiVirus scans the outgoing email twice,
but that probably is not a big deal, I don't send that many messages.



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Re: Converting incoming html email to Plain Text or omitting it altogether

2002-05-21 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello BUY,

On Mon, 20 May 2002 19:27:25 -0700GMT (21-5-02, 4:27 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

BOTREN That batch file is exactly what I'm looking for, but I have no idea
BOTREN how to incorporate a batch file into the Bat. Do I just insert the
BOTREN code below into my template, substituting my own paths, etc.,
BOTREN or does this info get pasted somewhere else?

A batch file is nothing else than a batch of dos commands collected in
one file, the format of the file is plain text and the extension is .bat
After you've saved it, you can use it as any other program.
So the way to use it from a filter, is to run it as an external
program (somewhere at two thirds of the action tab)

Since you're apparently not familiar with batch files, I'll tell you
step by step what this one does:

BOTREN  --begin autowav.bat-
BOTREN  g:

Change active drive to g:

BOTREN  cd\autofoto

change the active directory (on the active drive) to \autofoto
(as I told you before, this batch file was adapted from one that I'm
using for something else, so I used my own path info, so create a
folder on whatever drive you want and make your batch file focus that
folder.)

BOTREN for %%f in (*.wav) do

This is a for loop in a batch file, it tests whether there are files
matching your condition (in this case *.wav) and does what you want to.
Note that  both the for and the intended result should be on one line,
something like 'for %%f in (whatever) do something'

BOTREN c:\progra~1\thebat~1\thebat.exe

This is the path to TB, my path is the default:
c:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe
But dos and batch files aren't equipped to use long file names,
especially when they've spaces in them, so this is what you'll get for
batch files.

BOTREN /maila=g:\autofoto\%%f;t=g:\autofoto\sillytext.txt;s=Voicemail for Carlton in 
file %%f

The possibilities of the /mail switch of TB can be found in the help
under 'Automated message creation'
a=  gives you the attachment
t= gives you the template
s= gives you the subject line
The paths you use have to be adapted in this part, since I'm still
using g:\autofoto
Note this part has to be on the same line in your batch file as the
beginning of the for loop, since this is an essential part of the
command you want to execute.

BOTREN del *.wav

Deletes all .wav files in the current directory.

BOTREN --end of autowav.bat

For more info on batch files (I just googled for 'batch files') is
http://gatsby.tafe.tas.edu.au/batch/ 

BOTREN By the way, I'm using the 30-day trial version of the Bat
BOTREN Do you know what happens after the 30 days?

I'm not sure, I think you won't be able to use it. I heard rumors
though, that it's possible to request an additional 30 days. However I
didn't need 30 days to realize that TB was the client I wanted.

BOTREN I don't want to lose all my settings, filters and
BOTREN directories (there are 96).

I'd be very surprised if that would be the case. But you can always
copy them and after registering copy them back.

BOTREN Thank you Roelof,

You're welcome.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 00:54, Melissa Reese wrote:

 Another possible work around that has additional advantages - if
 you're allowed to install extra software on your work computer; and
 if you're not required to send via certain SMTP servers - is to use
 your own local server.

I'm not sure about this, but I've heard from what I consider being a
trustworthy source that this might cause trouble, since many
SMTP-servers out there does not allow connections from unknown
servers. By unknown I mean servers which does not have a mx record
pointed at them and your own local SMTP-server will most certainly
not.

Did I get it all wrong?

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Re: About 'To:'

2002-05-21 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Han's,

On Tue, 21 May 2002 16:03:12 +0700GMT (21-5-02, 11:03 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

Hs   My relative wants to send a kind of Newsletter for his customers in
Hs   txt format by e-mail.

Hs if they put in 'BCC', I'm worry the receivers will think it is the
Hs wrong address or 'SPAM' e-mail.

If it's an unsollicited newsletter it is spam.

You can always put something like 'All customers of blablabla' in the
To: header and BCC the whole lot, works with (almost?) every mua.

If you want more check the 'mass mailing option', it should be able to
do this, but that's something I never tried. (I'm using other software
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About 'To:'

2002-05-21 Thread Han's

Hello TBUDL,

  My relative wants to send a kind of Newsletter for his customers in
  txt format by e-mail. There is more than a hundred e-mail address
  that have to sent. If the e-mail address put in the 'CC', it will
  open those customer's e-mail address, if they put in 'BCC', I'm
  worry the receivers will think it is the wrong address or 'SPAM'
  e-mail. To make it confidence, is it possible if The BAT! sends a
  lot of e-mail address in one way without through 'CC' or 'BCC' but
  only use 'TO' path and only the aim customer's e-mail address will
  show up in that 'TO' path ?

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Re: Autocomplete ate my email

2002-05-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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JL and the email has evaporated. Three and a half years of flawless
JL service from the programme and now this!

- From what I gleaned from another thread, it would appear that your
autocomplete history is corrupted. Go into the options/preferences.
Under the System tab and autocomplete, choose all address books. This
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Re: About 'To:'

2002-05-21 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 10:03:12 AM, Han's wrote:

 To make it confidence, is it possible if The BAT! sends a lot of
 e-mail address in one way without through 'CC' or 'BCC' but only use
 'TO' path and only the aim customer's e-mail address will show up in
 that 'TO' path ?

From the Help file:

 If you want to send a standard message to a group of people, yet
 have the message custom written to every person in the group as if
 they were the only recipient, you can use The Bat!'s mass-mailing
 features.

 Create a Quick Template containing the text of the message and use
 template macros to create personalised inserts for the message (like
 first names in greetings, etc.). In the Quick Template editor, tick
 the Use for new messages / Mass mailing box.

 In the address book, create a group for the intended recipients for
 this mass mailing (if you don't already have one).

 Once you have at least one mass-mailing quick template defined, the
 Address Book contains a couple of new menu entries: New message
 using template and Mass mailing using template. Each of these menu
 options leads to a list of available mass-mailing quick templates.

 First select your recipient group. Then select the option you want
 (New message or Mass mailing) and that's it - all done!


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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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MO I'm not sure about this, but I've heard from what I consider being
MO a trustworthy source that this might cause trouble, since many
MO SMTP-servers out there does not allow connections from unknown
MO servers. By unknown I mean servers which does not have a mx record
MO pointed at them and your own local SMTP-server will most certainly
MO not.

I've not been having any problems in this regard and I've been using
my own local server to send mail for a long time.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Allie,

21 May 2002, 12:11:31, you wrote:

 Per Goetterup [PG] wrote:
 ...
PG Still we get a lot of customers with problems... All due to the
PG stupid Microsoft programs insisting on sending mail before
PG checking mail... :-(

 POP before SMTP authentication is something you have to specifically
 enable in TB!. It doesn't do this by default. I don't know any Windows
 based MUA that does it by default.

Yes, but there's no way you can enable it in Microsofts programs and you can't
'just' check mail. If there's something in the outbox it *will* try to send it
before checking mail, and it will even abort the entire operation if the mail
sending fails... Catch-22! :-(

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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Per Goetterup [PG] wrote:
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PG Still we get a lot of customers with problems... All due to the
PG stupid Microsoft programs insisting on sending mail before
PG checking mail... :-(

POP before SMTP authentication is something you have to specifically
enable in TB!. It doesn't do this by default. I don't know any Windows
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Relaying list messages in trouble?

2002-05-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello TBUDL Members!

  There is something funny going on with this list, lately I very
  often get replies to messages I have yet to see. One example is the
  still current threat About 'TO:', of which I got some answers in
  the morning that were totally unintelligible to me because I haven't
  seen the answer. Until just a few minutes ago ...

  This is not a problem on my machine, it could be with GMX, but I
  doubt it. It looks much more like something with DUTAINT.


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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Marcus,

 I'm not sure about this, but I've heard from what I consider being a
 trustworthy source that this might cause trouble, since many
 SMTP-servers out there does not allow connections from unknown
 servers. By unknown I mean servers which does not have a mx record
 pointed at them and your own local SMTP-server will most certainly
 not.

 Did I get it all wrong?

No, you are right. I wouldn't say many but at least some servers are
configured to do a reverse lookup on the IP of the sender and if the
IP does not resolve they will not accept the message. This may
happen even if you have an MX record that resolves domain name to IP
address. The reverse must be true also that IP resolves to domain.
This happens with many DSL connections with a permanent IP address.
Even if you set up your domain to point to your IP, a reverse lookup
on the IP will point to the ISP's zone.

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Act! and the Bat

2002-05-21 Thread jon hind

Anyone using The Bat as the Act! email client?

Act! doesn't have a geeral MAPI client, but can be sued with Eudora or
Outlook  express.  I  was wondering if Act! could be fooled to use The
Bat ?

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Re: Autocomplete ate my mail

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi justine,
On Tue, 21 May 2002 16:10:03 +0930, you wrote:

 Hopefully someone can help - I composed an email (a crucial one of
 course), started to type in the email address, when the window shut,
 and TB! closed.  No draft was saved, nothing in the outbox, and the
 email has evaporated.  Three and a half years of flawless service from
 the programme and now this!

Read this thread from the archives: 

The Bat closes when entering TO: field in new email

Give that a read, and see if it helps.  It appears that TB! has a problem with
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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:
...
MAU No, you are right. I wouldn't say many but at least some
MAU servers are configured to do a reverse lookup on the IP of the
MAU sender and if the IP does not resolve they will not accept the
MAU message. This may happen even if you have an MX record that
MAU resolves domain name to IP address. The reverse must be true also
MAU that IP resolves to domain. This happens with many DSL
MAU connections with a permanent IP address. Even if you set up your
MAU domain to point to your IP, a reverse lookup on the IP will point
MAU to the ISP's zone.

This certainly makes sense. They seem to do a combination of checks.

I have had no problems at all since I define a valid domain name,
'ac-martin.com' when sending mail and I make no effort to mask the
source IP, which will again turn out to be a valid one though it
points to my ISP's zone.

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Re: Relaying list messages in trouble?

2002-05-21 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On Tue, 21 May 2002 12:37:58 +0200 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   There is something funny going on with this list, lately I very
   often get replies to messages I have yet to see. One example is the
   still current threat About 'TO:', of which I got some answers in
   the morning that were totally unintelligible to me because I haven't
   seen the answer. Until just a few minutes ago ...
 
   This is not a problem on my machine, it could be with GMX, but I
   doubt it. It looks much more like something with DUTAINT.

Contact me off list and give the complete message header you feel
problem (MIME forwarding will OK).

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Re: Act! and the Bat

2002-05-21 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 12:53:04 PM, you wrote:

jh Anyone using The Bat as the Act! email client?

jh Act! doesn't have a geeral MAPI client, but can be sued with Eudora or
jh Outlook  express.  I  was wondering if Act! could be fooled to use The
jh Bat ?

jh Jon Hind

Hi jon,

I am using Act, version 4.02 and haven't been able to figure it out. Act
doesn't see any email client on my system.
Which version are you using?

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Re: Help Needed

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas F

Hallo Michael,

On Mon, 20 May 2002 21:01:55 -0700 GMT (21/05/02, 11:01 +0800 GMT),
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG My main computer, a laptop, crashed while at a bookfair.

Let me see... Frankfurt is in October, the ABA in August, and Taipei
was in February. Which book fair was this?

MSG However, the older computer has the trial version of TB 1.46. I had
MSG subsequently registered and upgraded to about 1.53h, I believe. But I
MSG never installed the later versions on the backup computer.

AFAIK the message base is still the same. The last change was at
version 1.42.

MSG Is there any way to download 1.53h or another version without having to
MSG pay a second time?  I may be without my laptop for a week or more.

There is an archive of all old version on a Czech TB-User's server.
However, you can download the latest version, as upgrades are free (so
far). The problem you have is that you need your registration key. If
you haven't backed this up and printed out, you can ask Ritlabs, who
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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 12:59, Allie C Martin wrote:

 This certainly makes sense. They seem to do a combination of checks.

 I have had no problems at all since I define a valid domain name,
 'ac-martin.com' when sending mail and I make no effort to mask the
 source IP, which will again turn out to be a valid one though it
 points to my ISP's zone.

Allie, I take our private discussion back on list since it seams like
there is more people interested in this.

I will setup my SMTP-server on a laptop which I will use at at least
three places:

1) at home where I have a static IP with no security at the ISP level,
all security is managed by my own firewall

2) at work where I'll have a dynamic IP which will be obscured by a
NAT

3) at my girlfriends home where I will connect through modem to her
ISP which I suppose use some kind of NAT

Number 1 shouldn't be any problem, I could specify a domain which
resolves to my own IP, but number 2 or 3 would cause problems if
someone try matching the resolved IP with the domain I specify.

Would it make sense if I specify just any valid domain? If I
understand you correctly Allie this is what you have done?

Maybe the easiest solution would be to try this setup myself. My final
question then is, will I notice any problems or could I be in a
position where I believe that the mail has been delivered although
they were rejected by the other side?

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Miguel,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60c) Business
to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 3:41:48 AM.

 G...  The hassle I have been through keeping 2 ISP PW's in sync
 for my wife!  No longer g

MAU You owe me a beer then ;-)

next time you are in Michigan drop me a note and we can hook up! g

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 12:47:12 PM, Marcus wrote:

 Maybe the easiest solution would be to try this setup myself. My final
 question then is, will I notice any problems or could I be in a
 position where I believe that the mail has been delivered although
 they were rejected by the other side?

My situation is remarkably similar to yours. I would like to achieve a
single configuration that works wherever I am and whatever ISP I use.
I have been sending mail today using ADR from a client's site, but I
too would really like to know the answer to your question above - we
must be able to trust the setup! Mail disappearing silently into a
black hole would be dismal...



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TB 160m readme

2002-05-21 Thread Paul Cartwright

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  I was just looking at the new featureslist on the web site. One of
them said this:
[+] Added an ability to sess whether an addressee has personal template in address 
book.

is that SEE ? I'm not sure I understand what that feature does,
anyone?

and I don't remember a conversation or thread about 160M, did I miss
it ?


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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 9:39:18 AM, Syafril wrote:

 You are using XP eh.., you can activate IIS-SMTP then. IMHO IIS SMTP5
 quite OK.

Is that installed as a standard part of Windows XP Professional? There
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Re[2]: Act! and the Bat

2002-05-21 Thread jon hind

Hello Gerard,

Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 12:28:33 PM, you wrote:


G ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 12:53:04 PM, you wrote:

jh Anyone using The Bat as the Act! email client?

jh Act! doesn't have a geeral MAPI client, but can be sued with Eudora or
jh Outlook  express.  I  was wondering if Act! could be fooled to use The
jh Bat ?

jh Jon Hind

G Hi jon,

G I am using Act, version 4.02 and haven't been able to figure it out. Act
G doesn't see any email client on my system.
G Which version are you using?


v 5 or 2000 - same thing.

I  don't think it can be done, unless you can get the bat to fool Act!
into thikig it's talking to Outlook express, Outlook, Notes or Eudora.
I  thought  of  Eudora  because  of  the cunning way that the palm can
hotsync to The Bat by settig the palm software up as Eudora.

But  it  seems  that  you  can't  select Eudora from within Act! uless
Eudora is istalled.

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Re[2]: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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8:22:29 AM
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Greetings Christopher,

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 8:15:27 AM, you wrote:

Christopher Is that installed as a standard part of Windows XP Professional? There
Christopher is nothing resembling it in my list of services.

IIS needs be installed itself after XP Pro has installed (it is on the XP
Pro CD) but I would be very leery of utilizing IIS for FTP, WEB or SMTP.
Sorry to say it but it can be very unsecure if one is not up on IIS
security, can be a pain after install if you let IIS install to default
directories and then wish to change the directory pointers and the most
common complaint with IIS, that I have seen, is that after install many
have problems starting IIS services and get numerous errors as to why the
services won't start even though the dependencies are operational.

Anyway ...

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On Tue, 21 May 2002 13:15:27 +0100 Christopher Taylor-Davies
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  You are using XP eh.., you can activate IIS-SMTP then. IMHO IIS
  SMTP5 quite OK.
 
 Is that installed as a standard part of Windows XP Professional? There
 is nothing resembling it in my list of services.

Include in XP Pro but not default install, you need to add from Control
Panel| Add/Remove Program | Windows Component.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Marcus,
On Tue, 21 May 2002 13:47:12 +0200, you wrote:

 I will setup my SMTP-server on a laptop which I will use at at least
 three places:
 
 1) at home where I have a static IP with no security at the ISP level,
 all security is managed by my own firewall

This will work... just remember to setup the SMTP server to accept only from
your host, otherwise you may end up getting black listed (http://mail-abuse.org
for example).
 
 2) at work where I'll have a dynamic IP which will be obscured by a
 NAT

This shouldn't matter providing your SMTP server can connect out (which it
should be able to do via NAT).

 3) at my girlfriends home where I will connect through modem to her
 ISP which I suppose use some kind of NAT

Same as 2.
 
 Number 1 shouldn't be any problem, I could specify a domain which
 resolves to my own IP, but number 2 or 3 would cause problems if
 someone try matching the resolved IP with the domain I specify.

How many people do you know that try doing reverse lookups on domain names/ip
addresses in email headers?  Not many I know of.  If you looked at the headers
on mine, they might come out forged depending on how I setup my mail client on
here.  I may have specified it to use localhost (I run sendmail), or I may have
specified my work server (mail.certiflexdimension.com).  If I set it as
localhost, it'll say the domain is valcor.d2g.com but in fact my computer is
running on coserv.net.  I don't get any problems :)
 
 Would it make sense if I specify just any valid domain? If I
 understand you correctly Allie this is what you have done?

Make sure it's a valid domain you have access to... no point in specifying
microsoft.com if you don't have access to it ;)

 Maybe the easiest solution would be to try this setup myself. My final
 question then is, will I notice any problems or could I be in a
 position where I believe that the mail has been delivered although
 they were rejected by the other side?

No... 99% of mail servers will bounce a message back giving you a reason it was
rejected.  There are some cases in which you may setup some mail servers to
quietly drop a mail (but this tends to only occur when matching to open relays).

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Re: TB 160m readme

2002-05-21 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Paul,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60k) Personal
to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 8:09:05 AM.

PC [+] Added an ability to sess whether an addressee has personal template in address 
book.
PC 
PC is that SEE ? I'm not sure I understand what that feature does,
PC anyone?

I believe you can replace 'sess' with 'figure out'.  I have that
translation stuck in my head from somewhere... g  Can't find it in
my new websters though.

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Re: TB 160m readme

2002-05-21 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Tim,
 
21. maj 2002, 15:11:14, you wrote:

PC [+] Added an ability to sess whether an addressee has personal template in 
address book.
PC 

TM I believe you can replace 'sess' with 'figure out'.  I have that
TM translation stuck in my head from somewhere... g  Can't find it in
TM my new websters though.

I'd say it should be just see - ...ability to see, whether an
addressee has personal template... etc.

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Re: Re[2]: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:28:35 -0400 DG Raftery Sr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Christopher Taylor-Davies
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 Sorry to say it but it can be very unsecure if one is not up on
 IIS security, can be a pain after install if you let IIS install to
 default directories and then wish to change the directory pointers and
 the most common complaint with IIS, that I have seen, is that after
 install many have problems starting IIS services and get numerous
 errors as to why the services won't start even though the dependencies
 are operational.

I didn't try IIS SMTP5 under XP myself, but I used it under W2K Pro when
I still used Windows at home. This week I have been made SMTP Stress
Test for some MTA either under Win or Linux and one of them is IIS SMTP
combine with Mail Essentials under W2K Advance Server, it can accept 5.8
msg/seconds while bombing with 500 messages from other PC, not bad IMHO.

If you are using ADSL or Cable connection, you may run own MTA using IIS
SMTP combine with dynamic DNS services such DNS2GO or such. There is
free POP3 daemon we can use with IIS SMTP (I forgot the links and the
name you may googling it, maybe still in my FTP server somewhere in
/freeware directory).

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Re: Act! and the Bat

2002-05-21 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 2:17:36 PM, you wrote:

jh v 5 or 2000 - same thing.

jh I  don't think it can be done, unless you can get the bat to fool Act!
jh into thikig it's talking to Outlook express, Outlook, Notes or Eudora.
jh I  thought  of  Eudora  because  of  the cunning way that the palm can
jh hotsync to The Bat by settig the palm software up as Eudora.

jh But  it  seems  that  you  can't  select Eudora from within Act! uless
jh Eudora is istalled.

jh -- Best regards, jon

Hi jon, Well at least I don't have to upgrade Act to get it to work. I
had been looking at that. I am not sure what the cause is. It doesn't
looks like Act looks for a MAPI handler but for specific software.

Maybe you should ask ACT! support what the software is loiking for in
terms of Email program?

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Allie,

 I have had no problems at all since I define a valid domain name,
 'ac-martin.com' when sending mail and I make no effort to mask the
 source IP, which will again turn out to be a valid one though it
 points to my ISP's zone.

That is my case and, once in a while, my e-mail is rejected by a
server. I will not be able to send e-mail to that server. You just
have been lucky so far.

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Re: TB 160m readme

2002-05-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:
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PC I was just looking at the new featureslist on the web site. One
PC of them said this:
PC [+] Added an ability to sess whether an addressee has personal

PC template in address book. is that SEE ?

Yes. I think it's a typo.

PC I'm not sure I understand what that feature does, anyone?

In your address book, go to the menu option 'View' and select
'Columns'. There you can choose which parts of the address book are
displayed as columns. One of the items there is 'Peson. Temp.'
(personal template). If checked, a column will appear with a boxes
like the favourites column. If you've defined specific templates for
the address book entry, then the box will be ticked.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote...

 Mail  shouldn't  disappear  silently. In the case we are considering
 you  should  get  back a 451 Sender domain must resolve error from
 the destination server.

You  are  right...  mail  should not just *disappear*... but there are
some  servers  that  allow  quiet  dropping of bad mail without sender
notifications... so *disappearing* is possible.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 14:55, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 How many people do you know that try doing reverse lookups on domain
 names/ip addresses in email headers?

Probably no one but my concern is with SMTP-servers, not with people.
And I don't know many SMTP-servers :-)

 Would it make sense if I specify just any valid domain? If I
 understand you correctly Allie this is what you have done?

 Make sure it's a valid domain you have access to... no point in specifying
 microsoft.com if you don't have access to it ;)

What do you mean by have access to. Can I specify canit.se which is
the domain of my ISP? Do I with you terminology have access to
canit.se even when I'm sending mails from work and they never touch
any of Canit's machines?

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Re: Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Richard Lane wrote...

 I'm  not  sure  if  this  is  a bug or just some Windows oddity, but
 sometimes  at  random  messages in my list appear as about one point
 size smaller thantherest.Takealookat
 http://www.magnumopus.co.uk/batgrab.gif  and  compare the second and
 third from top entries in the list and you'll see what I mean.

I think that is a windows oddity... I get it using other programs as
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Re: Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@21 May 2002, 09:05:50 -0500 (15:05 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm  not  sure  if  this  is  a bug or just some Windows oddity,
 but sometimes  at  random  messages in my list appear as about one
 point size smaller thantherest.

 I think that is a windows oddity... I get it using other programs as
 well... and not just TB!

It is neither a Windows oddity nor a bug. Jernej uses  a different
character set in his messages to allow for the non-ascii characters in
his name. You default font does not have those characters available so
TB selects the nearest-match font that does contain the required
characters. That's why you get the difference.

HTH

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Re: Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Richard,

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 4:01:45 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

RL I'm not sure if this is a bug or just some Windows oddity, but sometimes at
RL random messages in my list appear as about one point size smaller than the
RL rest. Take a look at http://www.magnumopus.co.uk/batgrab.gif and compare the
RL second and third from top entries in the list and you'll see what I mean.

That's _no_ 'Windows oddity', that's new an 'normal'.
The second entry contains some characters your default font for message
list can't display, so The Bat! chooses a font that can.
This, second, font is some pixels smaller than the default one at the same
size (e.g. 10pt).

That's the whole secret.
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Re: Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 9:05:50 AM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

   at  random  messages in my list appear as about one point size
 smaller thantherest.Takealookat
 http://www.magnumopus.co.uk/batgrab.gif  and  compare the second
 and third from top entries in the list and you'll see what I mean.

The font is probably being changed to handle the international
characters

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Re: TB 160m readme

2002-05-21 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 8:19 AM, you wrote:

PC [+] Added an ability to sess whether an addressee has personal
ACM 

PC I'm not sure I understand what that feature does, anyone?

ACM In your address book, go to the menu option 'View' and select
ACM 'Columns'. There you can choose which parts of the address book are
ACM displayed as columns. One of the items there is 'Peson. Temp.'
ACM (personal template). If checked, a column will appear with a boxes
ACM like the favourites column. If you've defined specific templates for
ACM the address book entry, then the box will be ticked.

that's great ! I DO have AB templates, and it is nice to know which
ones have them!

you didn't answer the question about 160M info, what's new ??


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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote:
...

MO Would it make sense if I specify just any valid domain? If I
MO understand you correctly Allie this is what you have done?

Correct; and I've done this sending mail via my two ISP's.

It doesn't matter if you're behind an NAT. I'm behind two NAT's and
still have no problems. It's your internet IP that ends up in your
message headers.

Check my last message to this thread's headers:

Received: from port0444-adsl.cwjamaica.com ([208.138.29.190] helo=ac-martin.com)
 ^^
 this is my internet IP,
 though my machines IP is
 an internal one
 (192.168.x.x).

MO Maybe the easiest solution would be to try this setup myself.

Yes. It should work for you.

MO My final question then is, will I notice any problems or could I
MO be in a position where I believe that the mail has been delivered
MO although they were rejected by the other side?

AFAIK, no. If it's rejected, you'll get a return receipt or the
message will just fail to send.

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A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss

Hi,
   I have a major drawback with thread view system. I can't read all
the new e-mail that I have received when I open the mailer. So, I have
5-10 unread threads in the mailbox marked with bold. Then I hear the
doorbell that I have received 5 new e-mails. How on earth should I
know in which thread I have just received mail? (Of course without the
help of the ticker. I am not that daft).
 Is it possible to configure BAT in a way that if I receive a new
message in a session, then the newly arrived mails are somehow
distinguished from the unread mail. (For example in k-mail the unread
messages are blue and the new enread messages are red).

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 8:07:14 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

 How many people do you know that try doing reverse lookups on
 domain names/ip addresses in email headers?

 Probably no one but my concern is with SMTP-servers, not with people.
 And I don't know many SMTP-servers :-)

I just read the following on another list, in a discussion about
avoiding spam and virus

 Blocking at the smtp server (the program that receives all the email
 for an organization) makes more sense than individual user blocks.

 Most of the open source smtp servers have a number of hooks to block
 spam (and potential virus senders). For instance, a common smtp
 server is Postfix (which actually started life as an IBM smtp
 server). Some of the restrictions you can put on email include:

 blocking email that doesn't have fully formed headers blocking email
 that doesn't respond to the HELO dialogue (blocks bulk mailers)
 blocking email when the sender ip cannot be looked up in DNS
 blocking email in various maintained lists of spammers.


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[OT] mail client for a powermac and/or linux?

2002-05-21 Thread Rick Reumann

I'm about to reformat an old Powermac 6500 at home and hopefully at
some point put Linux on it. I want to use a mail client on there, but
have grown so used to The Bat (which it appears isn't available for
either OS).

Any recommendations what mail client to use? This won't be my primary
machine so I doubt I'll actually buy software for it, but still
interested in even non-free e-mail clients for the mac and linux.

Sorry to post this message here, but since Bat users will be able to
relate better than anyone on best mail clients so I trust your
opinions than posting on some Mac or Linux site.

Thanks

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Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss

 
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Why is this message attached to all the list e-mails? Personally, the
Current Ver: line bugs since I can only get Version 1.6h. So there
must be i j k l and m already.

Is it for teasing? :)

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Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Richard Lane


Hello,

I'm not sure if this is a bug or just some Windows oddity, but sometimes at
random messages in my list appear as about one point size smaller than the
rest. Take a look at http://www.magnumopus.co.uk/batgrab.gif and compare the
second and third from top entries in the list and you'll see what I mean.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Christopher,

 Mail disappearing silently into a black hole would be dismal...

Mail shouldn't disappear silently. In the case we are considering you
should get back a 451 Sender domain must resolve error from the
destination server.

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Re: [OT] mail client for a powermac and/or linux?

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Rick Reumann wrote...

 I'm about to reformat an old Powermac 6500 at home and hopefully at
 some point put Linux on it. I want to use a mail client on there, but
 have grown so used to The Bat (which it appears isn't available for
 either OS).

 Any recommendations what mail client to use? This won't be my primary
 machine so I doubt I'll actually buy software for it, but still
 interested in even non-free e-mail clients for the mac and linux.

There  was a similar thread to this a couple of days back... go to the
archives,  and  do  a  search  for linux. I think the thread title was
something   like   Exporting   messages   from   TheBat   and   Linux
alternative?...  or  something like that. Chances are, you won't find
that  many  email clients that actually cost that much money on linux.
Most  are  developed  under  GNU  license  (or similar). One suggested
client  for  linux  was Sylpheed (or Sylpheed-Claws). I personally use
that  one, and would recommend it... but that is a personal preference
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Re: Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 16:45, Csaba Kiss wrote:

 
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 Why is this message attached to all the list e-mails? Personally, the
 Current Ver: line bugs since I can only get Version 1.6h. So there
 must be i j k l and m already.

1.60m was made official just a few days ago. I checked now and you can
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Re: Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:45:29 PM, you wrote:

 
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CK Why is this message attached to all the list e-mails? Personally, the
CK Current Ver: line bugs since I can only get Version 1.6h. So there
CK must be i j k l and m already.

CK Is it for teasing? :)

CK Csaba

Hi Csaba,
 We can be mean but were not teasing ;-)
 Try this:
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%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION

 It's done so others can see your version and OS when you ask a
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Re[2]: Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss


Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:54:19 PM, you wrote:

 1.60m was made official just a few days ago. I checked now and you can
 download m right away.

You were right. I just updated mine :). Is there a list where I can
see what's changed between i and m? I can only see the changes for
1.60

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Re: Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Richard Lane

Hello Marck,

Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 3:14:00 PM, you wrote:

 I'm  not  sure  if  this  is  a bug or just some Windows oddity,
 but sometimes  at  random  messages in my list appear as about one
 point size smaller thantherest.

 I think that is a windows oddity... I get it using other programs as
 well... and not just TB!

MDP It is neither a Windows oddity nor a bug.

That'll be a first. :)

MDP Jernej uses a different character set in his messages to allow for the
MDP non-ascii characters in his name. You default font does not have those
MDP characters available so TB selects the nearest-match font that does
MDP contain the required characters. That's why you get the difference.

Thanks, that makes sense, glad I finally solved the mystery.


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Re: Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Csaba,

@21 May 2002, 17:18:08 +0200 (16:18 UK time) Csaba Kiss wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You were right. I just updated mine :). Is there a list where I can
 see what's changed between i and m? I can only see the changes for
 1.60

It is currently the source of some disquiet - that there is no such
list available :-(. It is understood that fixes include compatibility
with some new AV plug-ins, internal text string changes and some bug
fixes to some of the import wizards.

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Toolbar question

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss

Hello ,

  I seem to be very active today :). I have two question regarding the
toolbar.
1: Is it possible to change the order of the buttons. The New
Mail button should be the first on the left, since most of
the other softwares have the new there. I think it is a nice
convention and should stick to it.

2: Is it possible to enlarge the buttons? It looks too short
for me. (Not too big a problem, though :))
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Re[2]: Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss


Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 5:24:28 PM, you wrote:
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 Hi Csaba,

 @21 May 2002, 17:18:08 +0200 (16:18 UK time) Csaba Kiss wrote in
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You were right. I just updated mine :). Is there a list where I can
 see what's changed between i and m? I can only see the changes for
 1.60

 It is currently the source of some disquiet - that there is no such
 list available :-(. It is understood that fixes include compatibility
 with some new AV plug-ins, internal text string changes and some bug
 fixes to some of the import wizards.

That's ok. As long as it keeps going l and p and z, I know that work
is going on behind the bonnet.


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Re: Help Needed

2002-05-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Thomas!

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 9:09:21 AM you wrote:

 Let me see... Frankfurt is in October, the ABA in August, and Taipei
 was in February. Which book fair was this?

Ts, Ts, Ts ... you forgot the most wonderful of them all (at least to
me): Leipzig. But was at the beginning of March, so that wasn't it for
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Re: Text at different size in listing?

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 I  think  that is a windows oddity... I get it using other programs
 as well... and not just TB!

 It  is  neither  a Windows oddity nor a bug. Jernej uses a different
 character  set in his messages to allow for the non-ascii characters
 in  his  name.  You  default  font  does  not  have those characters
 available so TB selects the nearest-match font that does contain the
 required characters. That's why you get the difference.

Might  be  in  this case then... I get things like this happening with
Windows  every  now  and  a again... but then again... my machine is a
huge beta testing machine so I've probably messed a lot of stuff up ;)

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Re: A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Csaba,

 Then I hear the doorbell that I have received 5 new e-mails. How on
 earth should I know in which thread I have just received mail? (Of
 course without the help of the ticker. I am not that daft).

Temporarily switch to View/View Threads by/None (Alt+0) and sort by
Received (time) column, then Alt+1 to return to Threads View by
Reference. The sort order and column is sticky for each view, so you
may have it different for Thread by Reference or None views.

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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Marcus Ohlström wrote...

 How many people do you know that try doing reverse lookups on domain
 names/ip addresses in email headers?

 Probably no one but my concern is with SMTP-servers, not with people.
 And I don't know many SMTP-servers :-)

Most  admins  don't  bother  setting  up  the  option to ensure proper
reverse  DNS...  there are a lot of networks that are badly setup, and
don't  have  a  proper  reverse  DNS,  which  would result in a lot of
bounced mail.

 Make sure it's a valid domain you have access to... no point in specifying
 microsoft.com if you don't have access to it ;)

 What do you mean by have access to. Can I specify canit.se which is
 the domain of my ISP? Do I with you terminology have access to
 canit.se even when I'm sending mails from work and they never touch
 any of Canit's machines?

Oh... hehe... miss-understood what you meant... yes... you can set it
to canit.se, even though you're sending from work.  The bounced
messages will be sent to Return-Path: or From: so providing those are
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Re: A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:29:05 PM, you wrote:

CK Hi,
CKI have a major drawback with thread view system. I can't read all
CK the new e-mail that I have received when I open the mailer. So, I have
CK 5-10 unread threads in the mailbox marked with bold. Then I hear the
CK doorbell that I have received 5 new e-mails. How on earth should I
CK know in which thread I have just received mail? (Of course without the
CK help of the ticker. I am not that daft).
CK  Is it possible to configure BAT in a way that if I receive a new
CK message in a session, then the newly arrived mails are somehow
CK distinguished from the unread mail. (For example in k-mail the unread
CK messages are blue and the new enread messages are red).


Hi Csaba,

All unread msg's have a closed envelope in a colour, were as read msg
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Re: Re[2]: A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Ray Dawson

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:57:27 PM, you wrote:


  All unread msg's have a closed envelope in a colour, were as read msg
  have open envelopes.

 Ok, that's fine and dandy, but the newly arrived unread messages and
 the ones that arrived a week ago, but did not have time to read it are
 marked by the same closed envelope.

But shouldn't the newly unread ones be lower in the thread window as they
are later?  (or higher, depending on whether you have your dates up or
down the window)

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Re: A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 9:57:27 AM, Gerard wrote:

CK  Is it possible to configure BAT in a way that if I receive a new
CK message in a session, then the newly arrived mails are somehow
CK distinguished from the unread mail. (For example in k-mail the
CK unread messages are blue and the new enread messages are red).


you can set up the ticker to only show messages younger than a
specified age, which can be set in seconds, minutes, hours, days

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Re: Help Needed

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dierk,

On Tue, 21 May 2002 16:50:31 +0200 GMT (21/05/02, 21:50 +0700 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Let me see... Frankfurt is in October, the ABA in August, and Taipei
 was in February. Which book fair was this?

DH Ts, Ts, Ts ... you forgot the most wonderful of them all (at least
DH to me): Leipzig. But was at the beginning of March, so that wasn't
DH it for him.

There is a book fair somewhere in the world almost every month. I
mentioned only the biggest three, in the order of importance. ;-)

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Re: How to get mail from Hotmail

2002-05-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi Jonathan,
It so happened that On Tue, 21 May 2002, at 11:01:28 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:01 in my
corner of the world)  ,you typed:

 mail with the Bat but
 could someone please tell me how?

JA There is a program flying about called Pop3Hot.  Costs a little bit of
JA money, but allows you to connect to hotmail.  The other way is to pay
JA the X amount of money Microsoft want, and get the POP3 account with
JA your hotmail.

Another alternative to consider is the web2pop program that lets you
connect to about any webmail you could imagine. I believe the url for
the program is www.jmasoft.com.
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Re[3]: Sending Email Hangs up

2002-05-21 Thread Robert D.

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 I've had this happen before, too...

Interesting idea -- I will certainly try that one. It's happening o me
several times a day now. sigh I've been enjoying the registered
*Bat* for several months now but am just starting to get agitated
enough to look around for something that works (for me).


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Re: How to get mail from Hotmail

2002-05-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Databug wrote...

 Hello all,
 I beleive its possible to download mail from Hotmail with the Bat but
 could someone please tell me how?

There is a program flying about called Pop3Hot.  Costs a little bit of
money, but allows you to connect to hotmail.  The other way is to pay
the X amount of money Microsoft want, and get the POP3 account with
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Re: Toolbar question

2002-05-21 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Csaba Kiss,

On Tuesday, May 21 2002 at 08:42 AM PDT, you wrote:

 I seem to be very active today :). I have two question regarding the
 toolbar.

Customisable Toolbars is something we have been requesting for some time
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Re: A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 5:04:53 PM, you wrote:


CK Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:57:27 PM, you wrote:


 All unread msg's have a closed envelope in a colour, were as read msg
 have open envelopes.

CK Ok, that's fine and dandy, but the newly arrived unread messages and
CK the ones that arrived a week ago, but did not have time to read it are
CK marked by the same closed envelope.

Thats right, because they are both unread.
So what you want is unread but old?

I guess this is only a problem in lists with treaded view. All others
can be sorted on time/date.

I am sorry there is no solution for that similar to the one you
mentioned. The only thing you could do is mark all msg after a certain
period read and flag them. Then after you have read them you can unflag
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Trash folder: Incompatible options?!

2002-05-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello TBUDL Members!

  Just found something curious:

   There are two options in the folder properties that seem to be
   incompatible - even mutually exclusive. I chose to leave
   messages in message base for two days. At the same time I
   checked to Remove old messages on exit (together with
   compressing).

  Now, since I almost never have to come back to older messages (at
  least on that account) I never thought about it until today, when I
  needed some messages for Syafril. The messages, dated from today,
  were deleted although there hadn't been two days gone.

  Am I missing something? Shouldn't messages be removed on exit
  *after* two days have passed?


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Re: Help Needed

2002-05-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Thomas!

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 6:40:16 PM you wrote:

 There is a book fair somewhere in the world almost every month. I
 mentioned only the biggest three, in the order of importance. ;-)

Last one from me, before anybody has to declare it OT and DH* ...

That's why I was slightly hurt. and I am not even from Leipzig, and
sadly still not there, but in Hamburg. Well, give me two more years
...



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Re[2]: A fundamental problem with threaded view!

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss


Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:57:30 PM, you wrote:
 Hello Csaba,

 Then I hear the doorbell that I have received 5 new e-mails. How on
 earth should I know in which thread I have just received mail? (Of
 course without the help of the ticker. I am not that daft).

 Temporarily switch to View/View Threads by/None (Alt+0) and sort by
 Received (time) column, then Alt+1 to return to Threads View by
 Reference. The sort order and column is sticky for each view, so you
 may have it different for Thread by Reference or None views.

Wow, Thank you. That's good enough for me. I did nto know the [Alt]-0
1 combination.

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Re: How to get mail from Hotmail

2002-05-21 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 7:13:07 PM, you wrote:

KE I believe the url for the program is www.jmasoft.com. HTH


Hi Krister,
 Try this : http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html
 English or Française

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

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CK I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send
CK some collections?

How about a file containing 270842 taglines? If you want it, email me.
It's about 1MB WinRAR'ed.

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Re:Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss


Hello Tim,
Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 9:00:14 PM, you wrote:

TM Hey Csaba,

TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m)
TM to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 2:48:06 PM.

CK Hi,

CK I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some
CK collections?

TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random
TM or just
TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/

It is certainly impressive quantity but I did not find a single funny
one after 5 minutes of random browsing.

Best regards,

   Csaba Kiss
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Stockholm, Sweden

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Csaba,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m)
to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 2:48:06 PM.

CK Hi,

CK I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some
CK collections?

http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random
or just
http://www.taglinesgalore.com/

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Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss

Hi,

I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some
collections?
  
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   Csaba Kiss
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Re: Pop/Smtp authentication

2002-05-21 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 12:29:47 PM PST, Christopher Taylor-Davies
wrote:

 Is there a way to configure TB to attempt to authenticate with the
 SMTP server's pop service before sending mail?

Hello Christopher,

I mentioned in another message in this thread that I use ADR for all
my email sending.  I was looking around at the MailUtilities site
(makers of ADR), and I saw another utility of theirs that might be
interesting to you in this circumstance.  It's called Autoroute SMTP:

http://www.mailutilities.com/ars/

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Csaba,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m)
to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 3:14:04 PM.

TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random
TM or just
TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/

CK It is certainly impressive quantity but I did not find a single funny
CK one after 5 minutes of random browsing.

You could go to www.google.com and search for taglines.  That is
where I got the above.  If you want, eMail me direct, and I will send
you my file.  Not nearly as big as Costas' though! :-)

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread David Elliott

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Dear Costas

On 21 May 2002 at 22:08:31 +0300 (which was 20:08 where I live) Costas
Papadopoulos graced us with these comments

 How about a file containing 270842 taglines? If you want it, email me.
 It's about 1MB WinRAR'ed.

That is some good compression when I rar mine down I get a 4MB file.

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Re: Hiding messages in certain folders?

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Tim,

 Is there a way to only show unread messages on a folder-by-folder
 basis?

NO, it applies to all folders. But when you get to on of the folder
you only want to see Unread messages you can Alt+VDU or
Alt+Click on a yellow (unread) envelope. To come back to see all (or
when you change to another folder), just Esc.

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Re: Trash folder: Incompatible options?!

2002-05-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Dierk,

   Am I missing something? Shouldn't messages be removed on exit
   *after* two days have passed?

Check your Account/Properties/Options and se if you have Empty Trash
folder on exit select. If yes, this overrides the trash folder
settings.

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Re: Version No??

2002-05-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Michael,

@21 May 2002, 10:56:03 -0500 (16:56 UK time) Michael Disabato wrote in
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MDP It is currently the source of some disquiet - that there is no
MDP such list available :-(. It is understood that fixes include ...

 Has the problem with the two versions of S/MIME been fixed?

I have no idea...

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

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Hello Tim,

Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 10:35:10 PM, you wrote:
 Hey Csaba,

 My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m)
 to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 3:14:04 PM.

TM
http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random
TM or just
TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/

CK It is certainly impressive quantity but I did not find a single funny
CK one after 5 minutes of random browsing.

 You could go to www.google.com and search for taglines.  That is
 where I got the above.  If you want, eMail me direct, and I will send
 you my file.  Not nearly as big as Costas' though! :-)

Sorry,  folks.  I  made  a mistake about the filesize. For the record,
it's actually 3.29MB winRARed and about 13MB unrared (text file).

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

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Hello David,

Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 11:09:54 PM, you wrote:

 Just for info I have mine at http://download.work4theweb.com/Personal/

It's  good of you to post the link. I had simply forgotten where I had
downloaded the file(s) from, a few months ago.

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread David Elliott

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Greetings Csaba

On 21 May 2002 at 20:48:06 +0200 (which was 19:48 where I live) Csaba Kiss
wrote

 I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some
 collections?

Just for info I have mine at http://download.work4theweb.com/Personal/

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Re: Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Matt Thoene

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 12:14:04 PM, Csaba Kiss wrote:


CK funny cookies

= oxymoron.  Although a few on this list do have some good ones from
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Re:Cookies wanted!

2002-05-21 Thread Csaba Kiss


Hello Csaba,
Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 8:48:06 PM, you wrote:

CK Hi,

CK I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some
CK collections?

Thanx for everyone for the links and files. I collected a nice bunch
of wise-cracks. Now I am sitting in front of my computer and reading
my signatures. Isn't that stupid?

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