Re: DSL and the Bat!

2002-06-07 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Lynn,

L I hope no one will think this is a stupid question but, we recently installed DSL 
and I can't seem to figure out how to connect to my email using The Bat. I keep 
getting a window that says that no
dial-up connection was made. Call me brainless but does this software work on a DSL 
connection and if so, how do I get it to work?

Options
Network  Administration
Connect The Internet Using - Local Area Conncection



Ciao,
luigi

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PGP 7 freeware

2002-06-07 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello ,

when will The Bat support PGP 7.0?



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Re: E-mail address filtering.

2002-06-07 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Weaven, Christopherx [WC] wrote:
...
WC I want to send an auto-reply to messages received to
WC [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , but because the other
WC address has the same text, it auto-replies to them all messages
WC received.

WC I've tried [[EMAIL PROTECTED]], Recipient, Yes.

Hmmm. That should have worked.

Ok. Try this string and enable regular expressions in the filter rules
options.

^[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: E-mail address filtering.

2002-06-07 Thread Mrten

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Om 12:02 op vrijdag 7 juni 2002, Allie C Martin:

WC I've tried [[EMAIL PROTECTED]], Recipient, Yes.

 Ok. Try this string and enable regular expressions in the filter rules
 options.

 ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or add [Joe.], Recipient, No. to the filter.

Mrten.

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Re: SpamCop encountered errors

2002-06-07 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On Friday, June 7, 2002, 12:13 AM, you wrote:
 SpamCop is now ready to process your spam.

 Use links to finish spam reporting:
 http://spamcop.net/sc?id=xx

This is what should happen and shows that all is present and correct.

   I didn't want to do THOSE particular messages, they werent spam! but
 at least it is working.

MP  This is where the second filter should kick in. That one should be
MP  automatic though. It launches a browser pointed straight at that link.

well, ahem I removed all the old filters when you sent me the new
ones, so I don't have the reply filter anymore ;)

and I pasted the MID: line in the follow-up, see if this follows the
thread for references... not to mention the subject. Still in digest
mode !

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Re: SpamCop encountered errors

2002-06-07 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On Friday, June 7, 2002, 12:13 AM, you wrote:


 SpamCop is now ready to process your spam.

 Use links to finish spam reporting:
 http://spamcop.net/sc?id=xx

L This is what should happen and shows that all is present and correct.

   I didn't want to do THOSE particular messages, they werent spam! but
 at least it is working.

L This is where the second filter should kick in. That one should be
L automatic though. It launches a browser pointed straight at that link.

here is the email that triggered it:
 it's Nadia. please come talk with me.. I have a webcam Click HERE and have fun.

and I clicked on the web page for Spamcop's reply. THAT IS AWESOME
that is MUCH more info than I ever got from Arin WHOIS!


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AntiVir and notification

2002-06-07 Thread Alain de Gevigney

Hello,

  I've modify a bit the notification template to add the virus name in the
  reply :

,- [  ]
| Hello %OFROMNAME,
| 
| Attention!
| 
|   It seems you have got the virus %-
| %SETPATTREGEXP='!Virus! .*? (.*?) .*?[\n]'%REGEXPMATCH=%include=$.\Antivir.log$%-
|  on your machine!
|   Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner
|   and check all your files right away!
|
| Take care,
|  %FROMNAME
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Re: AntiVir and notification

2002-06-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Alain,

@07 June 2002, 12:56:53 +0200 (11:56 UK time) Alain de Gevigney wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I've modify a bit the notification template to add the virus name in the
   reply :

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 | Hello %OFROMNAME,
 |
 | Attention!
 |
 |   It seems you have got the virus %-
 | %SETPATTREGEXP='!Virus! .*? (.*?) .*?[\n]'%REGEXPMATCH=%include=$.\Antivir.log$%-
|  on your machine!
 |   Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner
 |   and check all your files right away!
 |
 | Take care,
 |  %FROMNAME
 '-

Very good, but I only seem to be receiving Klez these days, which
fakes the sender information. Because of Klez, I've turned off the
notification completely because I can't actually work out the real
source of the infection. I can see which network it comes from by the
Received headers but that doesn't help me that much.

Anyone else got any other takes on this?

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Re: AntiVir and notification

2002-06-07 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 1:14:22 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

MDP Anyone else got any other takes on this?

Have a look at the 'Return-Path's ... When one computer here was infected
the Return-Paths all made sense, albeit all From: headers were faked ...

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Re[2]: Administrator account

2002-06-07 Thread Scott Ames

Hi;

You are a genius. One of my accounts was the Admin and I was able get
back to normal. THanks!


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Friday, June 7, 2002, 5:21:50 AM, you wrote:

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MDP Hi Scott,

MDP @07 June 2002, 05:09:25 -0600 (12:09 UK time) Scott Ames wrote in
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 In changing a bunch of settings to troubleshoot a problem I must
 have enabled user level access. How can I get back to the
 Administrator account so that I can set that back? I can't seem to
 figure it out.

MDP I'm not certain but here are a couple of ideas:

MDP 1) log in to the primary account. That may be the Administrator.
MDP 2) If not, try one of the other accounts.
MDP 3) If all else fails, restore from the last backup. (what do you mean
MDPwhat backup? g)
MDP 4) Desperate measures : delete account.cfg and reconfigure
MDP*everything* in the account properties. Okay, so perhaps rename
MDPit rather than delete it - just in case it goes very pear shaped.

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Re: F-PROT and TB!

2002-06-07 Thread Haico

On 4-6-2002 at 23:08, Haico wrote:

 Hello,

 Since none of the anti-virus plugins are of use to me.. [The only free
 one I can use is Antivir but I have the mcafee guard to protect my
 computer..]

Ow.. The plugin works, but not with zip-files apparently. :-S Hmm.. I
have to look into that.

I thought the guard should have been loaded in order for the plugin to
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Re: DSL and the Bat!

2002-06-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Julian,
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:17:08 +0100, you wrote:

 This depends on the type of DSL connection.  On my PC, my DSL
 connection is another Dial Up Networking (DUN) connection.

Although most DSL connection software uses a DUN connection, it is just creating
an interface between the operating system, and the network card to create a PPoE
(Point-to-Point over Ethernet).  Technically you could still use it as a local
area network connection.  Plus I never actually had any problems setting up the
network settings to use Local Area connection, even when I was using dial-up. 
Just meant that TB! didn't try connection itself when checking emails.  I don't
know if they have changed the way that works though ;)

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Re: 4.4.0 Interactive routing subsystem is not enabled

2002-06-07 Thread Gerard


ON Friday, June 7, 2002, 11:52:10 AM, you wrote:

SA Hi;

SA I'm just using the USB port to physically change the DSL connection
SA from one machine to the other. The internet works on both machines,
SA one at a time.

SA Change that to another SMTP and it works. Use the older version of
SA The Bat and it works.

Hi Scott,
   If both of the above statements are correct the only conclusion can
   be that it is TB! I just read yesterday that someone downloaded the Q
   version. You might want to give it a go.

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Re: PGP 7 freeware

2002-06-07 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Luigi Rosa,

In Reference to your Posting on Friday, June 07 2002 at 02:56 AM PDT,

 when will The Bat support PGP 7.0?

I do not believe it ever will have direct support for PGP 7.x because it
has literally been abandoned by NAI. PGP 6.5.8ckt on the other hand is
fully supported by RITLabs thanks to Imad Faiad, and those CKT versions
are just as feature rich as the PGP 7.x versions including an expanded
list of supported Algorithms, PGPDisk, etc. Certainly worth taking a look:

http://www.ipgpp.com/

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Re: AntiVir and notification

2002-06-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@07 June 2002, 07:22:59 -0500 (13:22 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Have a look at the 'Return-Path's ... When one computer here was
 infected the Return-Paths all made sense, albeit all From: headers
 were faked ...

 Depends... not all versions of the Klez are tacking in the
 return-path, or should I say not all ISPs are tacking in the
 return-path. If they were, resolving who is infected would be a hell
 of a lot easier ;)

Well, I get no Return-Path headers :-(.

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Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX








Hi all,



I know this has probably been asked hundreds of times, but is there some
way of finding out the difference between all the different versions of The Bat?



I subscribed to be informed of when new versions come out, but I dont
seem to receive anything. Also, I see the Whats New, but this doesnt tell
us whats new from one version to the next.



I think itll be useful if we were notified of each new version and what
the changes were from the last version, rather than all the changes from day
one.



So can someone tell me whats new from The Bat! 1.60q compared
1.60m? And what happened to n, o and p?



Apart from that, a superb e-mail client that I would recommend to
anyone!



Thanks,



Chris.








Re: Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Britt Malka

Dear ChristopherX,

Friday, June 7, 2002 at 3:36:22 PM you wrote:


WC Apart from that, a superb e-mail client that I would recommend to anyone!

Great! But how come you don't use it? I couldn't help noticing that
you've got one of them annoying message.htm added to your mail.


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Re: AntiVir and notification

2002-06-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Friday, June 07, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Depends... not all versions of the Klez are tacking in the
 return-path, or should I say not all ISPs are tacking in the
 return-path. If they were, resolving who is infected would be a hell
 of a lot easier ;)

 Well, I get no Return-Path headers :-(.

My point exactly ;)  Some of the Klez infected emails we've been
getting here, have actually had a return-path set.  I'm not sure if
that is by the ISP, or by the virus itself.  Bit stupid if it was the
virus, and if it was the ISP, I'd like to know how, Klez is supposed
to run it's own SMTP server.

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RE: Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX

On Friday, June 07, 2002, Britt Malka wrote...

WC The reason for it anyway is because I'm not using The Bat! at the
moment as
WC I'm at work and behind a firewall. Otherwise, I'd love to use it here!

 Oh, poor you!

 We have a firewall at work, but fortunately we can use The Bat! there.
 Are you sure that it is impossible? Maybe you should just change the
 port-number or something like that?

Or check the settings you're using in your currently client, and use
those in TB!
I'm using Outlook 2000, how do I find the relevant info?


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Re: Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Friday, June 07, 2002, Weaven, ChristopherX wrote...

 I'm using Outlook 2000, how do I find the relevant info?

Then Outlook 2000 is either messing up your replies, or there is
editing going on.  As for finding out the details, go into Outlook,
click Tools - Email Accounts - View or Change existing details, then
select the account you want to look at, go to properties, and look at
the servers page.  I looked in OutlookXP, but it should be pretty
close.

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RE: Re[2]: Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX

Dear ChristopherX,

Friday, June 7, 2002 at 3:48:45 PM you wrote:


WC What's the message.htm thing?

It is a file that you create if you write with HTML in Outlook
Express, Outlook etc. Very often they are of no use, because most
people with with black letters on white background, but they take up
space on the harddisk, if you keep the messages.

Some of us here have search for a way of deleting these files with a
filter, but it doesn't seem possible.

WC The reason for it anyway is because I'm not using The Bat! at the moment
as
WC I'm at work and behind a firewall. Otherwise, I'd love to use it here!

Oh, poor you!

We have a firewall at work, but fortunately we can use The Bat! there.
Are you sure that it is impossible? Maybe you should just change the
port-number or something like that?

If someone could tell me how, I'd love to use it here at work!

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RE: Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX

Dear ChristopherX,

Friday, June 7, 2002 at 3:36:22 PM you wrote:


WC Apart from that, a superb e-mail client that I would recommend to
anyone!

Great! But how come you don't use it? I couldn't help noticing that
you've got one of them annoying message.htm added to your mail.
What's the message.htm thing?

The reason for it anyway is because I'm not using The Bat! at the moment as
I'm at work and behind a firewall. Otherwise, I'd love to use it here!

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Forcing wrap

2002-06-07 Thread Joseph N.

Sometimes when I reply to messages (I don't know what conditions have
to exist), the quoted text will not wrap.  After I send the message,
when I look in the sent folder, the text is wrapped, so either it
wraps on sending or it just displays as wrapped in the Sent folder. Is
there a way to force the wrapping while the reply is still in the
composition/editor window?  Among other reasons, a digital signature
will presumably not come back as 'good' if the message is not wrapped
in its final form at the time the signature hash is computed.

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Re: SpamCop encountered errors

2002-06-07 Thread Thomas F

Hello Paul,

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 06:55:45 -0400 GMT (07/06/02, 17:55 +0700 GMT),
Paul Cartwright wrote:

PC and I clicked on the web page for Spamcop's reply. THAT IS AWESOME
PC that is MUCH more info than I ever got from Arin WHOIS!

My feelings exactly. And fully automated, so forget about spending 20
minutes (at least) for each spam message. :-)

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Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Michael T. Ashby

I'm finding that it's taking quite awhile for an e-mail to send. I
click the send button and it takes approximately 15 seconds for the
e-mail to send. During that time TB is locked up and I'm unable to do anything else
within the program.

Anyone else run into this problem? Any suggestions on what I could
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Re: E-mail address filtering.

2002-06-07 Thread Thomas F

Hello ChristopherX,

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 02:43:12 -0700  GMT (07/06/02, 16:43 +0700 GMT),
Weaven, ChristopherX wrote:

WC I want to send an auto-reply to messages received to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , but because the other address has the same text,
WC it auto-replies to them all messages received.

The solution is [Joe.], presence no, location kludges, in additon to
the string as you have mentioned. On the Rules page of your filter,
add this condition by clicking on Add. This makes the two conditions
behave as put together with a logical AND.

WC Ps. What's new from The Bat! 1.60q now offered over 1.60m? And
WC what happened to n, o and p?

Those were beta versions that were not published on the general
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The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX








Hi,



Im new to this QA thing for TB!, but now I know about it, I keep thinking
of questions.




 Can
 there be a way of installing each upgrade as patch rather than as a whole
 new program and then offer the whole program separately? Being on a dial-up
 and with all the updates about at the moment, I think some people can
 benefit.
 When
 I installed the last upgrade, my registration key didnt work. Is there a
 way of installing the upgrade without causing key problems?




Until my next question,



Chris.



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RE: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX

I'm finding that it's taking quite awhile for an e-mail to send. I
click the send button and it takes approximately 15 seconds for the
e-mail to send. During that time TB is locked up and I'm unable to do
anything else
within the program.

Anyone else run into this problem? Any suggestions on what I could
tweak to have the e-mail not hang like that?

What version of The Bat! are you using?


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Re: Showing Flagged messages on Account tree

2002-06-07 Thread Thomas F

Hello Allie,

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 04:54:06 -0500 GMT (07/06/02, 16:54 +0700 GMT),
Allie C Martin wrote:

TF Also, I have parked messages in every single folder. Indicating
TF parked messages in the folder tree would defeat the purpose.

ACM What about me who has flagged messages in every folder? :-)

Arrghhh... flagged over here means still needs to be replied to.
Should we make the folder icon flaglets optional then? g

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Re[2]: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Michael T. Ashby

I'm using version 1.60m


Michael T. Ashby



Friday, June 7, 2002, 10:44:34 AM, you wrote:

JA On Friday, June 07, 2002, Weaven, ChristopherX wrote...

 What version of The Bat! are you using?

JA No offence... but is there any chance you could change the outlook
JA settings to actually put in the quotes for the emails you're replying
JA to... I keep getting confused, and thing somebody is double posting on
JA the behalf of somebody else ;)



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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello ChristopherX,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 08:20:20 -0700 , you wrote concerning 'The
Bat! Upgrades.':
...
 1. Can there be a way of installing each upgrade as patch rather
 than as a whole new program and then offer the whole program
 separately? Being on a dial-up and with all the updates about at the
 moment, I think some people can benefit.

No. When there is a new version you can only download the whole
package or just the executable (from the beta site).

Talking about bandwidth: please don't post HTML-messages.

 2. When I installed the last upgrade, my registration key didn't
 work. Is there a way of installing the upgrade without causing key
 problems?

I never had problems with upgrading and my registration keys. AFAIK
when you upgrade nothing changes in the registry so I don't know how
this could happen.

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Re[3]: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Michael,

Friday, June 7, 2002 at 5:47:58 PM you wrote:


MTA I'm using version 1.60m

Try upgrading to the latest version. There has been many problems with
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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi ChristopherX,

@07 June 2002, 08:20:20 -0700 (16:20 UK time) Weaven, ChristopherX
wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 1. Can there be a way of installing each upgrade as patch rather
 than as a whole new program and then offer the whole program
 separately? Being on a dial-up and with all the updates about at the
 moment, I think some people can benefit.

No there isn't.

 2. When I installed the last upgrade, my registration key didn't
 work. Is there a way of installing the upgrade without causing key
 problems?

It should always work. You should *not* uninstall before upgrading.
The registration codes are held in the registry.

 Ps. How many people are on this distribution list?

About 700.

moderator
Very few of whom like receiving HTLM mail. ;-)
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Re: DSL and the Bat!

2002-06-07 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Lynn.

At 1:18 AM on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 you wrote the following
about [DSL and the Bat!]:

Lynn [...] we recently installed DSL and I can't seem to figure
Lynn out how to connect to my email using The Bat. I keep
Lynn getting a window that says that no dial-up connection
Lynn was made. [/...]

  Also make sure that you have a Local Area ConNection
  installed on your system. If its not there, you will have
  to install the driver via the Device Manager before DSL
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Re: Showing Flagged messages on Account tree

2002-06-07 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Allie,

 What about me who has flagged messages in every folder? :-)

I also have parked, flagged and coloured messages in most of my 300+
folders. So, if something as suggested in this thread was ever
implemented in TB my folder tree would look quite psychedelic. The
only thing that would perhaps be acceptable for me is something in
conjunction with Advance Filtering. That is, that if I select for
example View/Display/Only messages with attachments, the folder tree
only displays folders which contain messages with attachments, and so
on.

In any case, whether psychedelic or not, if ever implemented it
should be _optional_ and not _forced_ on any user.

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HTML email (was: The Bat! Upgrades.)

2002-06-07 Thread Dave Gorman

Friday, June 7, 2002, 10:20:20 AM, ChristopherX wrote:

 I'm new to this QA thing for TB!, but now I know about it, I
 keep thinking of questions.

Chris, I know in another thread it was brought up that you are
using Outlook 2000. Give this a try to turn off the HTML emails.

Click Tools/Options, select the Mail Format tab. Select Plain
Text in the message format dropdown.

Do you know if the account you are mailing from is a POP account
or if it is going through an Exchange Server? I seem to remember
something about Exchange sending even Plain Text emails in
HTML, but perhaps I'm mistaken...

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Re: Showing Flagged messages on Account tree

2002-06-07 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Thomas

On 07 June 2002 at 21:57:55 +0700 (which was 15:57 where I live) Thomas F
rearranged electrons to get

TF Also, I have parked messages in every single folder. Indicating
TF parked messages in the folder tree would defeat the purpose.

ACM What about me who has flagged messages in every folder? :-)

 Arrghhh... flagged over here means still needs to be replied to.
 Should we make the folder icon flaglets optional then? g

Sounds like you need a draft folder. :)

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Re: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Friday, June 07, 2002, Weaven, ChristopherX wrote...

 What version of The Bat! are you using?

No offence... but is there any chance you could change the outlook
settings to actually put in the quotes for the emails you're replying
to... I keep getting confused, and thing somebody is double posting on
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Re[4]: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Michael T. Ashby

Britt,

Thanks, will do!

Michael T. Ashby


Friday, June 7, 2002, 10:50:11 AM, you wrote:

BM Dear Michael,

BM Friday, June 7, 2002 at 5:47:58 PM you wrote:


MTA I'm using version 1.60m

BM Try upgrading to the latest version. There has been many problems with
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Re: HTML email (was: The Bat! Upgrades.)

2002-06-07 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dave,

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:42:25 -0500 GMT (07/06/02, 23:42 +0700 GMT),
Dave Gorman wrote:

DG Do you know if the account you are mailing from is a POP account
DG or if it is going through an Exchange Server?

I used TB with the Exchange Server at work. There is a switch that the
admin can use to allow or disallow POP access, I understand.

DG I seem to remember something about Exchange sending even Plain
DG Text emails in HTML, but perhaps I'm mistaken...

That's not correct, as I had asked all my collegues to turn off HTML
in their OL, and it worked. ;-)

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Re[5]: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Michael T. Ashby

Ok, I tried installing the latest version. Performed a reboot of the
machine as well, just to be sure and the problem is not fixed.

So, when I send an e-mail it's still taking 15 - 30 seconds for the
message to go away and TB is hung while this process is happening.

Any other suggestions?


Michael T. Ashby


Friday, June 7, 2002, 10:54:36 AM, you wrote:

MTA Britt,

MTA Thanks, will do!

MTA Michael T. Ashby

MTA 
MTA Friday, June 7, 2002, 10:50:11 AM, you wrote:

BM Dear Michael,

BM Friday, June 7, 2002 at 5:47:58 PM you wrote:


MTA I'm using version 1.60m

BM Try upgrading to the latest version. There has been many problems with
BM version m.


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Re[2]: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Michael T. Ashby

Well, it's not that the e-mail is taking long to be handled by the POP
server, it's more that TB is just hanging there while it happens. It
used to be that the e-mail would just go to the outbox and the
connection manager would deliver the mail, while I could read other
mail, etc.

The problem is that TB just hangs there doing nothing until the e-mail
is sent. Even just sending it to the outbox and not sending it
immediately has the same effect.


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Friday, June 7, 2002, 11:23:39 AM, you wrote:

JR Hello Michael.

JR At 11:30 AM on Friday, June 07, 2002 you wrote the following
JR about [Slow Sending]:

Michael I'm finding that it's taking quite awhile for an
Michael e-mail to send. I click the send button and it
Michael takes approximately 15 seconds for the e-mail to
Michael send. [...]

JR   Could also be your ISP server in which case there's not a
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Re: Different Versions.

2002-06-07 Thread Dave Gorman

Friday, June 7, 2002, 9:14:48 AM, Jonathan wrote:

 On Friday, June 07, 2002, Weaven, ChristopherX wrote...

 I'm using Outlook 2000, how do I find the relevant info?

 go into Outlook, click Tools - Email Accounts - View or Change
 existing details, then select the account you want to look at,
 go to properties, and look at the servers page.

It's also possible, depending how your Outlook 2000 is
configured, you may need to click Tools/Services. Then select
Internet Email (if there is more than one, select the
appropriate account) and examine the properties of the Internet
Email account. HTH

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Re[2]: Administrator account

2002-06-07 Thread Mark Wieder

Marck-

Friday, June 7, 2002, 4:21:50 AM, you wrote:

MDP 4) Desperate measures : delete account.cfg and reconfigure

Am I alone in finding it disturbing that all the security measures you
can set up in TB can be circumvented by deleting the cfg file and
constructing a new one? Does this mean that if I set up user levels
and other protection in my system someone can come along and defeat my
security measures that easily? Or am I reading too much between the
lines here?

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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Mark,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 09:54:24 -0700, you wrote concerning 'The
Bat! Upgrades.':
...
DvZ Talking about bandwidth: please don't post HTML-messages.

 Actually, I didn't realize you could do this with TB without
 explicitly attaching a file.

I didn't say you can did I? Because it's not possible with TB!.

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Re: HTML email (was: The Bat! Upgrades.)

2002-06-07 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Dave,

DG Do you know if the account you are mailing from is a POP account
DG or if it is going through an Exchange Server? I seem to remember
DG something about Exchange sending even Plain Text emails in
DG HTML, but perhaps I'm mistaken...

That  depends  on how you configure the Internet Mail Connector: you can also
tell Exchange to send out every mail in plain text.



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Re: Administrator account

2002-06-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Mark,

@07 June 2002, 10:27:51 -0700 (18:27 UK time) Mark Wieder wrote in
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MDP 4) Desperate measures : delete account.cfg and reconfigure

 Am I alone in finding it disturbing that all the security measures you
 can set up in TB can be circumvented by deleting the cfg file and
 constructing a new one? Does this mean that if I set up user levels
 and other protection in my system someone can come along and defeat my
 security measures that easily? Or am I reading too much between the
 lines here?

If security measures are that vital I suggest you look at SecureBat!,
StrongBat! and The Bat! Pro. The security in The Bat! is only meant to
be casual AFAIK.

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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread FW for Angel


 --- Weaven, ChristopherX / Freitag, 07.06.2002, 17:20:20
The Bat! Upgrades.

This is a forwarded message
From: Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 7, 2002, 7:50:54 PM
Subject: Will someone please post this in TBUDL for me? TIA Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

===8==Original message text===
Hi Chris,

 2. When I installed the last upgrade, my registration key didn't
 work. Is there a way of installing the upgrade without causing key
 problems?

Upon installing/upgrading earlier versions of TB!, time and time again
I found that it was not registered once the installation/upgrade
finished.
*IF* this is what you are referring to, all you need to do is locate
the email which contains your registration key (sent to you upon
registration), click on it (you don't need to open it in a separate
window...just click on it as if you were reading it...), THEN: go to
HELP / ENTER REGISTRATION CODE. When the box comes up, your key and
everything EXCEPT the password should be in there. All you need to do
is enter your password and voila! It'll be registered again.

FWIW: I just upgraded from 1.53d to 1.60q, and did not have to enter
my registration #/code as I have had to do before. (And, IMHO, this
version is awesome! VERY different, MUCH more friendly and easier to
use. :) )

Blessings and light,
~~~Angel

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550 Error

2002-06-07 Thread John Phillips



Hello fellow Bat! fans.

Any idea what this error message from my isp means?

Your Message Fwd: Insurance in 2002/2003 Outgoings (Fri, 7 Jun 2002 21:16:55 +1000)
could not be successfully delivered to the following recipients :-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

550 DATA line too long (Max 1024)

This message was actually sent to two people; the other not at fashionfair;  no
reject notice on that one. (AFAIK)

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Re: Forcing wrap

2002-06-07 Thread Allie C Martin

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JN Sometimes when I reply to messages (I don't know what conditions have
JN to exist), the quoted text will not wrap.  After I send the message,
JN when I look in the sent folder, the text is wrapped, so either it
JN wraps on sending or it just displays as wrapped in the Sent folder.

The formatting you see in the editor is the one that's sent, unless
you clearsign the message using a plugin and it's done upon sending.

What you're seeing when viewing the message in the sent folder is soft
wrapping done by the viewer. If you reopen the message in the editor
you should see that the wrapping isn't really there.

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Re: Slow Sending

2002-06-07 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Michael T. Ashby [MTA] wrote:
...
MTA So, when I send an e-mail it's still taking 15 - 30 seconds for
MTA the message to go away and TB is hung while this process is
MTA happening.

MTA Any other suggestions?

Are there any compounding variables not mentioned. For example, a
firewall that you have running? It could be the firewall. I doubt very
much that it's TB! specifically that's the problem.

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Re: 550 Error

2002-06-07 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello John,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 05:39:39 +1000, you wrote concerning '550
Error':
...
 Any idea what this error message from my isp means?

Following to this site it means the following:
(http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/smtp-intro.html)

  Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable [E.g., mailbox not
  found, no access]

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Re: is there a way 'ignore thread' ?

2002-06-07 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Greg,

 Miguel have you given up on the pseudo ignore capability or did I
 miss it?

No, I haven't given up. Actually I have emulated the Ignore feature
with a Colour Group and an Ignore incoming filter. But I don't use it
because it is actually much easier to Ctrl+Shift+M when I get new
messages in a thread I am not interested in.

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Re[2]: Watch tread

2002-06-07 Thread Peter Kerekes

Hello Joseph,

I think you misunderstood my request.

Thursday, June 6, 2002, 10:23:50 PM, you wrote:

JN Although TB! doesn't exactly have that watch feature, it does have
JN features which do the same thing, only slightly differently.

JN First, you could view your messages by thread, so that messages with
JN the same subject or reference or sender, or whatever you choose, are
JN grouped together.

I  am  using  the  tread feature, but only the new unread messages, so
normally I don't see the older ones

JN Then, regardless of whether you choose to view by thread, you can
JN create filters so that messages with the same information of your
JN choosing, e.g., subject line, are given the same color group (thereby
JN showing immediately different by color) or moved to a separate folder
JN (thereby showing by the indicators in the folder tree that there are
JN new messages).

I  could  do  this,  use  colour groups, I did it for a while. But the
messages  I  want to watch could be numerous daily and they may or may
not  continue.  I  was  using  Forte  Agent prior to BAT, Agent had an
iconin addition to parking, flag, attachment etc called WATCH TREAD.
By  clicking  this  column,  it  worked similar to flag or park but it
marked all the continuation of a tread.


JN  On Thursday, June 06, 2002, Peter Kerekes wrote in
JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There is a very useful feature missing from BAT:

 A  way  to  mark a message so that it would automatically flag any new
 follow up messages in that tread, like a WATCH for.

 Sometimes  a  message  is  interesting  and  would  like  to  see  the
 follow-ups,  replies, suggestions, but with so many E-mails it is easy
 to overlook unless it is highlighted somehow.


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Re[2]: Administrator account

2002-06-07 Thread Mark Wieder

Marck-

Thanks. No, I don't need the security measures, I just wanted to make
sure that I was understanding things properly.

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1.60q-continued

2002-06-07 Thread Pete Milne

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  I think I need to correct myself.  I was reading the wrong line about the
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 Pete 

 8:29:47 PM

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 Ask about eScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software.

We will meet all of your Anti-Virus needs.

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Re: 1.60q

2002-06-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Pete,

@08 June 2002, 20:25:53 -0600 (03:25 UK time) Pete Milne wrote in
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 I was just reading a bit about the newest of The Bat!. I see it is now has
  an newer HTML viewing engine in it. Aside from the fact I want nothing to
  do with HTML in email, do I want to bother upgrading to 'q'? As time goes
  on, is The Bat! going to start getting sluggish and bigger due to these
  new 'improvements'?

  What is the general consensus??

But ... you are already running 1.60. You're running 'm'. 'q' contains
some bug fixes over 'm', some of which include fixes for memory and
resource leaks. As a runner of 1.60, you already have the features you
were reading about.

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Re: 1.60q-continued

2002-06-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Pete,

@08 June 2002, 20:31:01 -0600 (03:31 UK time) Pete Milne wrote in
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 I think I need to correct myself.  I was reading the wrong line about the
   new HTML engine...sorry for the inaccuracy.

1.60 does actually contain a new HTML rendering engine.

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Re[2]: 1.60q-continued

2002-06-07 Thread Pete Milne

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Replying to your message of Friday, June 7, 2002, 8:42:57 PM:


I wasn't too sure on how much of a change you get between 'm' and
'q'...after all, it is 4 whole letters!  ;o)

I am pretty well pleased, minus a few little things, with what I have now.
I was hoping things were going to go backwards at all.  I can't imagine why
they would...but one never knows.

Thanks!!

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Status on 2.0?

2002-06-07 Thread Aaron Green

What's the current expected release date of at least a beta?

Thanks!


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Re[2]: Forcing wrap

2002-06-07 Thread Joseph N.

I'm not altogether sure what your point is.

My standard signature has a standard delimiter.  When there is a quote
of something that is significant, i.e., something which ought to
remain readable, I delete the delimiter so the quote remains dark.
When the quoted text is retained simply as a cue for context, I don't
worry about it, and leave the delimiter there, as I did in my
three-letter reply which you quoted.

As for where the quoted material belongs, I think that depends in part
on the context and in part on the purpose.  In newsgroups, posting
one's follow-up above the quoted material is considered extremely bad
form, for reasons which escape me but which are clearly part of the
Usenet culture.  In email, the opposite is the standard; it is not
unusual to see three or five levels of quotations underneath the most
current response.  Intermixing quotation and fresh text seems to me
the most helpful of all, in Usenet or mail, but it is only useful some
times.

As I said, I'm not really sure of your point.  If it was to complain
about my delimiter screwing up the quotation below it, I'll consider
removing it.  Relocating the signature seems a poor choice when there
could be, as I noted, several levels of quotations below the actual
text which is being signed.

JN


 On Friday, June 07, 2002, Dwight A Corrin wrote in
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 On Friday, June 7, 2002, 5:30:21 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

 Thx.

 I didn't look but I know that on either this list or tbbeta there
 has been some discussion about the desirability of quoting along
 with the response, rather than quoting at the bottom of the message.
 While messages below responses are difficult in general, quoting
 below the signature delimiter, as appeared in this message is even
 worse. I blocked not only the quoted text above, but a little of the
 text from the message before, but it was of course correctly clipped
 because of the delimiter.

 I am set up so that matter below the delimiter appears in grey text,
 and eight point type while message text is black and eleven point
 type. It shouldn't be necessary to change settings to make the
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Re[2]: PGP 7 freeware

2002-06-07 Thread Robert Golovniov

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Hello Nick,

Friday, June 7, 2002, 3:21:01 PM, you wrote:

NA I do not believe it ever will have direct support for PGP 7.x because it
NA has literally been abandoned by NAI.

Well,   Nick,  in  my  opinion,  this  is  rather  sad. PGP 7.x is now
supporting  the  HTML format. And since The Bat! team seems to work on
implementing  the  possibility of creating HTML messages with their V2
product,  the  PGP  7.x  users  would  not  be able to have a seemless
integration with The Bat!

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