I'm not altogether sure what your point is.

My standard signature has a standard delimiter.  When there is a quote
of something that is significant, i.e., something which ought to
remain readable, I delete the delimiter so the quote remains dark.
When the quoted text is retained simply as a cue for context, I don't
worry about it, and leave the delimiter there, as I did in my
three-letter reply which you quoted.

As for where the quoted material belongs, I think that depends in part
on the context and in part on the purpose.  In newsgroups, posting
one's follow-up above the quoted material is considered extremely bad
form, for reasons which escape me but which are clearly part of the
Usenet culture.  In email, the opposite is the standard; it is not
unusual to see three or five levels of quotations underneath the most
current response.  Intermixing quotation and fresh text seems to me
the most helpful of all, in Usenet or mail, but it is only useful some
times.

As I said, I'm not really sure of your point.  If it was to complain
about my delimiter screwing up the quotation below it, I'll consider
removing it.  Relocating the signature seems a poor choice when there
could be, as I noted, several levels of quotations below the actual
text which is being signed.

JN


     On Friday, June 07, 2002, Dwight A Corrin wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Friday, June 7, 2002, 5:30:21 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

>> Thx.

> I didn't look but I know that on either this list or tbbeta there
> has been some discussion about the desirability of quoting along
> with the response, rather than quoting at the bottom of the message.
> While messages below responses are difficult in general, quoting
> below the signature delimiter, as appeared in this message is even
> worse. I blocked not only the quoted text above, but a little of the
> text from the message before, but it was of course correctly clipped
> because of the delimiter.

> I am set up so that matter below the delimiter appears in grey text,
> and eight point type while message text is black and eleven point
> type. It shouldn't be necessary to change settings to make the
> signature larger and darker to read a whole message.


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