Re: Format block as quoted
Hallo M., On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:24:00 -0700GMT (20-12-02, 1:24 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: ME You'll also notice a bug with Bat! if you are reading this message ME in it. The three lines above are shown in bold because Bat! thinks ME I want them to indicated quoted text. As you've been told, it's a setting. ;-) But if you start the line with a space TB will never display it as bold. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
Dear Thomas, On 04:39 20.12.2002, you [Thomas Fernandez ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... What is the UID for anyway, since the MID is already unique? The MID is only in the headers of the message. The client would have to issue TOP for each message in order to see wheter it already has that message. Server ssupporting UIDL can give you such a list in one row. :) Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Updating AB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Eddie, I know of a work around [...] EC ... that did what I needed :) I am happy I could help you :) EC Let me just as a follow-up question. EC Is it possible to synchronize two AB? I am am sure there is a way but unfortunately its beyond my knowledge :( This list is great, I am sure someone either knows how or has a work around. Happy Holidays :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgLi0l3LB35+TCg0EQLNaACfYPVAcyJRY8WoBkb2ONCtCK9nbbgAn13C jA/W3lp1Vj4enLwiTGmazTrn =PPok -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting up Web2pop account in The Bat!
Hello Thomas, Thursday, December 19, 2002, 3:57:08 PM, you wrote: What do you recommend I do so that I can access my Hotmail account via The Bat!? TF If you insist on Hotmail, then a program by the name of web2pop is TF your solution. I don't have the URL handy, but it was built for TF services like Hotmail that only offer web access. This (freeware?) TF proggy will make it possible for you to check your Hotmail with TB. TF Google knows the download location. I have downloaded Web2pop from their Website and installed it. I cannot see where it is running on my computer. I have also tried to set up an account in The Bat! to download my Hotmail messages via Web2pop. I cannot get this to work though. Could you tell my how to set up the account and how to configure this to download my Hotmail messages. I appreciate your alternative suggestions to Hotmail which I can look into at some future date. At present I just want to reach a stable position from where I can move forward. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Format block as quoted
Hello Roelof! On Friday, December 20, 2002 at 9:49:58 AM you wrote: But if you start the line with a space TB will never display it as bold. And if it is Bold specifically that bothers you switch - like me - to the PTV (Yes, your lines would have been shown in red). -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Why don't you ever see the headline, Psychic Wins Lottery? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hello Thomas! On Friday, December 20, 2002 at 4:37:25 AM you wrote: If I do that, will you allow me one line for the X-Face? Let's be perfectly honest, the best way to get rid of unnecessary overhead would be to ban e-mail, actually computers. The Internet is there to solve problems one would not have without them. Take the TB lists, perfectly self-referential and therefore useless to everyone not using TB. That is why I hate arguments on specifics, in this case bandwidth. It does not hold for me, my line is wide enough to download even the notoriously big security patches from MS in a little more than 2 minutes - and this line doesn't cost me extra for time or traffic. I still don't want X-Face or something similar. I also don't want people to always be exposed to my face - or whatever I chose to put in. I like the idea of the Rogues Gallery but even that is not used honestly. In my experience there'll always be clowns using Bart faces, *LotR* characters, *Star Wars* images. I don't want to see that. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Only the strong survive. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hi Miguel, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:57:14 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If more ml software uses them and more MUAs implement it's interpretation it can be a help to list members. Yeap, specially these two ;-) ,- [ ] | List-Subscribe: | http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe `- In conjunction with a public accessible archive that offers to download messages in MBOX format: yes :-) -- Pit Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP passphrase caching
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Toby, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:25:22 +1100 your time, you said: I don't know whether this is OK, but I'm going to say it anyway: when you start a new thread can you not reply to an existing message and change the subject line please. What happens is that people that are threading messages by reference suddenly get a new topic attached to the middle of an unrelated thread. If you set up a template for The Bat! in your address book you won't have to worry about filling in the To: field, and avoid thread hijacking. All the best :) - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #1089. Qualm Drowsy Sire ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPgLyGMtub/5cfolmEQKPFQCfQO+EVvSZkZnFCwth0Q129fgcE1EAoOoi 5TpZrTN4TAAlD3mhxESUjb5D =k3Xz -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Updating AB
In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Eddie Castelli [EC] wrote:'
EC Let me just as a follow-up question. Is it possible to
EC synchronize two AB?
It would appear that this is possible by right clicking on one of
the address books you wish to synchronize, select copy and paste it
in the other address book. Then do the reverse, i.e., copy and paste
the other address book into the original one you copied from.
TB! will not duplicate address book groups or entries when doing
this.
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Re: Pictures
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:37:25 +0700 Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a minimum of 7 by the list server. I see only 5 lines added to the body by the server :-) *ahhh* You refer to 7 lines in header ... :-) Yes, could But I think _these_ lines are quite useful. You think so. Others don't. I think X-Face (1 line) is useful. You don't. My offer to you: I exchange 7 List-Header lines for one X-face line. Interested? ;-) No. Not interested :-) The one category of header lines offer technical information and help, the other only fun. Recognizing a person on a ML is usually done by it's name, so X-Face is a pure toy. One might find it funny, but it's use is far behind the one of List-headers. :-) You can have the footer, too. We already to have. Me personally don't need the list footers :-) Nobody reads that anyway. Sadly the truth :-/ How about the sig? I see no value in it, you can see my name in the From address. Yes, I can. But as you might have noticed: some signature don't contain only the name, but maybe also a nickname (as mine sometimes do) and different contact information or PGP-Key-IDs. These information are usually not in From: header :) (or any other) Some people even use cookies! Yes ... of course ... it's christmas time!!! :- These should be outlawed. No. they're _too_ delicious :-))) Oh, and then, let's do away with the greeting. It is not useful. ??? You seem not to understand the meaning of an attribution line?!? Didn't we had this discussion on any of the TB!-lists recently? :-) I am looking at a way to reduce the number of Received headers. Surely they are useful (most people check every mail about its routing), but maybe I should use my own SMTP server after all, connect directly to the recipient's server and thus reduce the number of header lines. I do have. But you still don't have any influence on number of Received lines in incoming mails :-) But yes, I've written a program for myself to strip header lines out of a mail. :-) It's primary use is to strip SpamAssassin headers when submitting mails to SpamCop. As it takes the headers to strip as command line arguments (multiple are allowed) it would be easy stip Received headers on incoming mails too :-) If I do that, will you allow me one line for the X-Face? I didn't forbid it, so I don't need to allow it now or later, no matter what changed in circumstances. I just expressed my opinion it's superfluous :-) If more ml software uses them and more MUAs implement it's interpretation it can be a help to list members. Especially those telling the same over and over again (Send an empty message to ... to unsubscribe., Use the followin link to crawl through the archive ..., etc, etc.) I absolutely agree. Those threads arising from people asking these things, which you know already so aren't interested in downloading, should be deleted on server side. Seems you want to misunderstand or misinterpret. That's sad. I did not say these messages should be deleted, neither server side nor client side, just because of it's content. I said having references for FAQs can be helpful. I don't like the idea of typing the same answer over and over again. I don't like creating a QT for every FAQ. So pointing the questioner to the correct location of the answer is a possible solution. If these pointer / reference is in message headers (inserted by list server software) I (and others) can refer there, the answer will be short an precise and everybody _can_ be happy. Those with 1000+ mails per day because the number ain't increasing more than needed with only redundant information, the others because they got a short and exact answer to their question, instead of a 20+ mails thread with 19 possible ... answers. After all, TB uses the ML headers correctly, so they are useful, and any questions superfluous. ??? Lets switch off the computer. It's superfluous. Somebody once said: Computers are there to solve problems we wouldn't have without them. [source unknown] I have seen a figure of a cow, applicable at the roof of a car. It increases the factor of recognition if I drive through the city, albeit it increases the consumption of fuel significant ... Superfluous or necessary? P.S.: I smell a fish ... let's hide on TBOT before it hits :-) -- Pit Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hi Dierk, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:16:00 +0100 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why I hate arguments on specifics, in this case bandwidth. Just to clear things a little bit: I was not nitpicking on waste of bandwidth because of too much headerline or superfluous information in mails. I just wanted to express _this_ special header line is IMO superfluous AND I wanted to show quickly the ratio of header vs. body. No implicit meaning of let's concentrate on reducing header lines before we continue with anything else ... just a quick note ... there's an interesting fact: there can be more meta information than information. -- Pit Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hello Peter! On Friday, December 20, 2002 at 11:48:04 AM you wrote: Just to clear things a little bit: I was not nitpicking on waste of bandwidth because of too much headerline or superfluous information in mails. No problem with your arguments, actually we just took the same approach with partly even identical wording in answering Thomas' - hopefully tongue-in-cheek - post. As you have read by now. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Statistics are like bikinis: What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Dierk, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:16:00 +0100 your time, you said: DH That is why I hate arguments on specifics, in this case bandwidth. That was brave g I don't like X-Face either - I have an X-Face of 269 bytes after trying it out. Apart from anything else, the quality is rubbish. It seems to me that X-Face is better suited to Instant Messengers and 'Avatar-centric' email clients... However, I wouldn't complain at all if there was a better way for photos used for The Bat! AB to be exchanged via TB!/TB! users though. Let's say a check box under your personal photo *in your personal VCard* to allow sending of your photo, and then to add your personal photo to a new message in TB! as an attachment you'd choose a menu entry maybe under Utilities menu such as 'Insert VCard Photo' or something, when you wanted to send your visog to someone in particular for their TB! AB. Yes, I would quite like that. - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #1988. Warm Qed Sir Lousy ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPgL6F8tub/5cfolmEQJi3ACeNwwZvST1T0AX2LHB5NM3+ox4HCUAn29p 2eyGhTj/hH/a9TvyK6A+AZRC =s8OX -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Getting 'educational' out of the headers?
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Hash: SHA1
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tim Fountain [TF] wrote:'
TF Although I was a student when I bought the TB!, I'm not now. Is
TF there any way to get rid of the 'educational' part of X-Mailer
TF header line short of buying a new copy of the program, or should
TF I be doing that anyway?
I contacted Ritlabs and did get a specific answer on this.
If you're no longer a student, to continue legally using TB! you
have to upgrade to the private license. You can do so at the same
site that you purchase TB!. The upgrade options are there.
https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html
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Re: Setting up Web2pop account in The Bat!
On Friday, December 20, 2002, 4:39 AM, you wrote: GC I have downloaded Web2pop from their Website and installed it. I GC cannot see where it is running on my computer. I have also tried to GC set up an account in The Bat! to download my Hotmail messages via GC Web2pop. I cannot get this to work though. Could you tell my how to GC set up the account and how to configure this to download my Hotmail GC messages. I appreciate your alternative suggestions to Hotmail which I GC can look into at some future date. At present I just want to reach a GC stable position from where I can move forward. the web2pop globe with envelope over it should be in your system tray if it is running. You need to start it and configure it, you probably haven't done that. When you run it for the first time, it asks you to setup your known accounts, yahoo, hotmail...whatever. You need to tell it your username password so it can talk to those web accounts. then you setup TB with web2pop as the RECEIVE MAIL SERVER. then for username you put it [EMAIL PROTECTED] you need the @hhotmail part in there, not just the username. then check mail! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
Hello Johannes, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:19:34 +0100 GMT (20/12/02, 16:19 +0700 GMT), Johannes Posel wrote: The MID is only in the headers of the message. The client would have to issue TOP for each message in order to see wheter it already has that message. Server ssupporting UIDL can give you such a list in one row. :) I see. But from an efficiency POV, it is - well, inefficient to create two unique IDs for each message in the internet. Room for improvement in the RFCs, I'd think. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I bought a portable cable tv. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hello Peter, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:43:59 +0100 GMT (20/12/02, 17:43 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: ??? Lets switch off the computer. It's superfluous. Somebody once said: Computers are there to solve problems we wouldn't have without them. [source unknown] That's the truth. Yeah, man. P.S.: I smell a fish ... let's hide on TBOT before it hits :-) (I just had to post this last comment g). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. All generalizations are false. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduling message sending -- a _possible_ work around (forwhat it's worth)
Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:26:17 [GMT +0100] (5:26 PM EST here) Marek Mikus wrote: Thursday, December 19, 2002, Sean wrote: Is it possible to schedule a message to be sent at a later time? For example, if I compose a message at 1pm, but want it sent at 5pm, is there any way to tell TB! to do that? it is not in 1.62 version, but should be in the next version, as I listen from developers. You can use commandline parametres /MAIL and /SEND for creating and sending messages now. FWIW, at http://www.karenware.com/powertools/powertools.asp Karen Ware lists free Power Tools. Karen says that her Countdown Timer II and her Emailer-II tools may be coupled to send emails at specified times. Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave on server woes.
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:51:57 +0700 Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MID is only in the headers of the message. The client would have to issue TOP for each message in order to see wheter it already has that message. Server ssupporting UIDL can give you such a list in one row. :) I see. But from an efficiency POV, it is - well, inefficient to create two unique IDs for each message in the internet. Room for improvement in the RFCs, I'd think. ;-) No. But that's far to technically. -- Peter Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need help setting the *charset*
I tick-marked the Always use this charset for 8859-1 I also put %charset=ISO-8859-1 in the template for many addresses, including this one. Yet, when I CC a message back to myself, I see the RFC headers contains *charset=us-ascii* --- Could someone please tell me *if* I am doiong something incorrectly? -- Thanks for the help ... Robert D. ___ The Bat! ver. 1.62 Beta/17 Windows ME- 4.90 Build:3000. IE 6.0 Sp1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hello Simon! On Friday, December 20, 2002 at 12:08:07 PM you wrote: Let's say a check box under your personal photo *in your personal VCard* to allow sending of your photo, *That* is a good idea. Two years ago I couldn't include a portrait into my vCard because the vCard consistently crashed OL/OE - and most of my contacts use that. As some of them are business associates it is not a good idea to send them messages crashing their PCs. Hence, what I suggest is to give Add vCard a submenu: - with photo - without photo - just photo -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who wants to live in an institution? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert macro in Msg
Hello Eddie, On Friday, 20. December 2002 at 19:06:56 [GMT +0100] you wrote: When I'm in the AB and have a group selected then start a new Msg. I can't find any 'Macro' Button to Insert Macros into the Msg Body. Can this be confirmed and must I in this case insert macros on my own (e.g. Dear %TOname)? The Macros like %TOname you insert in your templates of the AB Group, not in the Message Editor. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: The Bat!1.62 Christmas Edition | Windows XP PGP: 6.58 ckt Build 8 - Key 0xBB9237A9 ICQ: 121117424 (hardly ever online) HP: http://www.thebat.int.tc/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert macro in Msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, December 20, 2002, Thomas Martin wrote... When I'm in the AB and have a group selected then start a new Msg. I can't find any 'Macro' Button to Insert Macros into the Msg Body. Can this be confirmed and must I in this case insert macros on my own (e.g. Dear %TOname)? The Macros like %TOname you insert in your templates of the AB Group, not in the Message Editor. You can always use a Quick Template to produce that kind of affect, then use: quicktemplatenameCTRL + SPACE To insert the content of the Quick Template, including resolved Macros. (Replace quicktemplatename to whatever you called it). - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPgNiryuD6BT4/R9zEQIWOACggHZxZrbRdqhNv3uoFM8ihXkHjLwAn1MM +zfjUSc5SDRo/OTENDJPgwJY =xGqZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
ON Friday, December 20, 2002, 7:00:17 PM, you wrote: DH Hence, what I suggest is to give Add vCard a submenu: - with photo DH - without photo DH - just photo And for the appearance challenged - Photo of a randomly selected movie star :-) Yes yes I know. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Sudden success at golf is like the sudden acquisition of wealth. It is apt to unsettle and deteriorate the character. And, as it comes almost miraculously, so only a miracle can effect a cure. ==P.G Wodehouse - THE MAGIC PLUS FOURS == Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Green AB
In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Eddie Castelli [EC] wrote:'
EC Could someone tell me what the 'green' AB are for and how they
EC are created?
They're for searching LDAP servers.
You can create one if you know LDAP Servers and wish to use them for
searching for e-mail addresses. In fact, a couple of these address
books are created during the TB! installation. I deleted mine since
I don't use them.
You can create one by creating a new address book and under the LDAP
tab enable the option 'this address book is associated with an LDAP
Server'. You can then fill in the LDAP server address.
Whenever you wish to search the LDAP server, go to the File menu and
select 'search'. From the popup you can enter the search string and
select the LDAP address book. TB! will then connect to the server
and all matching addresses will be displayed in the LDAP address
book. You can then copy whichever one you wish, to another of your
address books.
Tip:
Never use an LDAP address book to store addresses because each time
you do a search all entries in the address book are deleted and
replaced with the newly found addresses.
Hope this helps.
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Re[2]: Insert macro in Msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, When I'm in the AB and have a group selected then start a new Msg. I can't find any 'Macro' Button to Insert Macros into the Msg Body. Can this be confirmed and must I in this case insert macros on my own (e.g. Dear %TOname)? I know exactly how you feel. It's one of the major bummers of TB! in handling mass mailing or on the fly macro creation. The Macros like %TOname you insert in your templates of the AB Group, not in the Message Editor. JA You can always use a Quick Template to produce that kind of affect, True, It took me a while to get how it works but the idea is simple. If you ever wish to put macros into your document so the end receivers can see the true values and not the %%macros you'll have to first create a quick template. Consider the quick template the real editor when it comes to composing your messages to the masses. JA quicktemplatenameCTRL + SPACE JA To insert the content of the Quick Template, including resolved JA Macros. (Replace quicktemplatename to whatever you called it). You'll simply have to learn how to use quick templates. They pretty much hold dear the answers you're looking for. I hope I helped. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgOKVV3LB35+TCg0EQJT7ACg1+6ymjI4poDISHVjxmV7YPUspGIAnjDQ 3JKKqQDl3gPtskl7lKE/1MdA =olOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Dierk, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:00:17 +0100 your time, you said: DH Hence, what I suggest is to give Add vCard a submenu: - with photo - DH without photo - just photo Yes, indeed, and I agree that such a submenu would also be a great addition. And of course utilising the vCard photo obviously means not adding useless xtra features like X-Face, but rather building on a useful feature already present in TB! :) - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.62 on W2K SP3 #2809. Ray Qed I Low Mrs Us ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your freedom with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPgOdkstub/5cfolmEQKMoQCgg7byMj1ME+aAl9Jp2Us0bzKtLQoAn2mK owTiUt0YbA+3hHpYVf8qn3M7 =wsoC -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Pictures
Hello Dierk, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:00:17 +0100 GMT (21/12/02, 01:00 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: Let's say a check box under your personal photo *in your personal VCard* to allow sending of your photo, *That* is a good idea. Two years ago I couldn't include a portrait into my vCard because the vCard consistently crashed OL/OE - and most of my contacts use that. As some of them are business associates it is not a good idea to send them messages crashing their PCs. Well, I never used OL/OE, but I also had some business associates who sent me their vCards with every message. Quite an annoying habit. Once I have their details in my AB, I don't need them to attach their vCard again and again. A small little X-Face, though... (scnr) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hypnotophobie: Angst vor dem Bettenmachen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help setting the *charset*
Hello Robert, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:45:24 -0500 GMT (21/12/02, 00:45 +0700 GMT), Robert D. wrote: I tick-marked the Always use this charset for 8859-1 I also put %charset=ISO-8859-1 in the template for many addresses, including this one. Yet, when I CC a message back to myself, I see the RFC headers contains *charset=us-ascii* --- I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same enoding? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A fool and his money are soon partying. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help setting the *charset*
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked: I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same enoding? Well, that might be so! I shall change the *charset* here to something interesting and make a *test* to myself ... Thanks for the idea ... -- Bye Now, Robert D. ___ The Bat! ver. 1.62 Beta/17 Windows ME- 4.90 Build:3000. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help setting the *charset*
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked: I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same enoding? I just set the charset in the template for TBUDL in the *Account*, to be Ukranian KOI8, or something like that --- I tried Central European --- and still the charset, in the headers, is always us-ascii So --- OK -- I must be doing something wrong here. Everyone's says *us-ascii* -- Bye Now, Robert D. ___ The Bat! ver. 1.62 Beta/17 Windows ME- 4.90 Build:3000. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to do this - pictures, address book, file extract
well, again some excellent questions from a TB newbie :) -is it possible to create a rule so that all incoming messages are added to address book and its attachment file goes as entry for picture in the address book -if picture for particular address exists in AB, can some rule be created which show preview of picture for incoming emails from this address -there is a possible way to create filter that can extract attachements and save in some directory but it doesn't allow us to select the file name. is there anyway, where i can specify that file name should of format say first_name or email_address or something.. -thanks in advance ;) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help setting the *charset*
Hello Robert, On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:09:28 -0500 GMT (21/12/02, 07:09 +0700 GMT), Robert D. wrote: I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same enoding? I just set the charset in the template for TBUDL in the *Account*, to be Ukranian KOI8, or something like that --- I tried Central European --- and still the charset, in the headers, is always us-ascii I jsut did a test myself and can confirm this. Very odd indeed. So --- OK -- I must be doing something wrong here. Everyone's says *us-ascii* I was thinking the list server overrides the settings, but when I just sent out a message in Thai encoding, the headers still insist it is us-ascii. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(SOT?) Double proxies with TB
TheBat-users, I have decided to test how good the anti-spamming tools available today are. Therefore I have installed POPfile (an content-based anti-spam agent) and SpamPal (a blocklist-lookup agent). My question goes as to how to set these 2 tools up as they both want TB to have localhost/127.0.0.1 as the POP3 server. I can set the listening port in both agents. I imagine something like: TheBat - POPFile - SpamPal. Is this possible? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62 Beta/17 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT?) Double proxies with TB
On 21 December 2002, 00:34, Peter Fjelsten wrote: I have decided to test how good the anti-spamming tools available today are. Therefore I have installed POPfile (an content-based anti-spam agent) and SpamPal (a blocklist-lookup agent). My question goes as to how to set these 2 tools up as they both want TB to have localhost/127.0.0.1 as the POP3 server. I can set the listening port in both agents. I imagine something like: TheBat - POPFile - SpamPal. Is this possible? ~~~ It should be possible to do TheBat-SpamPal-POPFile-ISP. FWIW, I had Norton Antivirus 2001 working with Spampal, and both wanted 127.0.0.1 (localhost). AFAICT, the trick is to get Spampal to use a non-standard port (it configured itself to use port 1110 in my case). You then need to tell TB to connect to localhost on port 1110 with username whatever_POPFile_needs@isp_pop3_server Alternatively, if you can configure POPFile to use a non standard port, you can do it your way around. See the Spampal docs about how to pass the non-standard port info. Check out the Spampal documentation for the a more detailed explanation. The Installation page is quite thorough. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Just when I hit bottom, someone hands me a shovel. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Pictures
Hello Simon! On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 2:45:31 PM you wrote: S 'Lo Dierk, DH Hence, what I suggest is to give Add vCard a submenu: - with photo - DH without photo - just photo S Yes, indeed, and I agree that such a submenu would also be a great addition. S And of course utilising the vCard photo obviously means not adding useless S xtra features like X-Face, but rather building on a useful feature already S present in TB! :) This is excellent reasoning, and I would like to see these ideas implemented. How soon can you set about getting the request to the programmers? This is something I would use, if it were in my copy of The Bat! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help setting the *charset*
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked: I was thinking the list server overrides the settings, but when I just sent out a message in Thai encoding, the headers still insist it is us-ascii. :-( Thanks for testing the idea --- well, I'm lost but must keep trying to figure it out, one way or the other. There is a List-Server I am sub'd to and, as of about ten days ago, I can not post to it --- I neither get a bounce nor ack-bak --- and I started investigating the headers ---I used my OE-6 here and DID get through. OE headers showed me that the message was 8859-1 --- and hence began my *trying* to make TB tell me it had changed it's charset when I told it to --- sigh BTW --- the status bar, lower right, tell me this is Ukranian. -- Bye Now, Robert D. ___ The Bat! ver. 1.62 Beta/17 Windows ME- 4.90 Build:3000. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
I'm using TB 1.61 Business Edition on a Pentium III laptop PC running Windows 98 SE with 256 mb RAM. I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I do a Restore in TB. The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. I'd like to be able to restore all my mailboxes so that the desktop will mirror what is on my laptop. I thought that the Synchonise program would do that, but I had problems understanding how to use it. Before writing this, I went to the list archive and found Allie Martin's great explanation from January 2002 which seems to deal with the same problem I'm having. Her instructions were much clearer than the instructions in the Help Menu for the Maintenance center. However, in her email she stated: The synchronisation process doesn't delete mail. It merely adds mail, folders and settings from the source system that aren't present in the target system. I tried the Synchronisation program--to be sure--and just as she said, mail was added but not deleted. Since neither Synchronise nor Backup/Restore will create this mirror image I need, can anyone suggest an alternate solution? Thanks. Mike Greenbaum Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, MSG I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. The only solution I currently have to help you mirror an inbox is to share your accounts directory with the desktop. I mean file, folder and printer sharing provided by Windows. The only problem I can see arise from this is what actually happens is any changes you make last on one PC will reflect in the next one on next access. MSG My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. MSG Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from MSG my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I MSG use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I MSG do a Restore in TB. You backup on your notebook, pass the file to your desktop and then restore it on your notebook or on your desktop? If you restore TB! files on your desktop it means you're not really using your desktop solely for backup. In this case share the mail account if possible to have both your desktop and notebook access one account. Otherwise backing up TB! is always a good idea and storing it elsewhere is better. MSG The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new MSG messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which MSG have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. If you're deleting messages but they seem to show up after a restore are you purging and compressing all of your folders? I purge, compress, backup and every restore never brought from the dead a message that was meant to be deleted. Purging and compressing your folders I believe will wipe your account of deleted folders, messages and attachments, etc. MSG I'd like to be able to restore all my mailboxes so that the desktop MSG will mirror what is on my laptop. If you share your account the problem will disappear and what will happen is your notebook will mirror your desktop and your desktop mirror your notebook. I have the same setup as yourself. My notebook is my primary and my desktop my secondary. Both run XP and both are connected to each other via a very simple network. I thought running a network will cost and arm and a leg but it's really less than 10.00 dollars to accomplish. Look at the back of your PCs and see if you have 1394 IEEE firewire ports and if you do you're in luck. Your PCs should be able to communicate in live time and at blazing speeds. Nothing beats a stable network for less than 10.00 and a network sure beats almost anything else :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgQbz13LB35+TCg0EQKHUQCeN4kOsDVIl3imiG4f3adSBW9BvYoAn2Ei SlaFdS7Kzz6hQ233s3R50z0M =GH0C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
