Re: Filtering after a first filter dont work

2003-08-03 Thread MAU
Hello Wilfried,

 Ok, I get it working,

That is what is important :-)

 ...but I'm not sure I did it the right way.

I am not sure there is a right way.


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help needed with a macro

2003-08-03 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hallo Fledermäuse,

I am a member of the mailing lists Opera and WDVLTALK, can anyone please tell me how 
to modify this macro
%SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?i)\A:?\s*(\s*(re|re-[1-9]|aw|antwort|fw|fwd|wg)(\[\w*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)(\s*(\(was:.*\)|\(fwd.*\)|\z))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OSUBJ%SUBPATT=4%-

so that it is filtering out the [ou] and [wdvltalk] in the subject line?

examples:
[wdvltalk] RE:RE:RE:RE:Re: was css now Wooo-Hooo
Re: [OU] M2 Manual Storage


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Re: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile

2003-08-03 Thread Allister Jenks
On Sunday, 3 August 2003, at 1:16:43 p.m., Deborah W wrote:

 Question 2: While looking in the archives for this info, I came across a
 thread titled First email client with built in Popfile. In this
 thread, Carsten Thonges gave a cut  paste for a filter which could be
 used to re-classify messages easily using a TB shortcut. I've tried to
 copy  paste the filter, changing the Opera bit to a Mozilla bit (since
 that's my browser of choice) but it isn't working for me - is there
 anyone who would be willing to have a look at it to see if they can get
 it to work? TIA :-)

Deborah, I don't know if you saw the subsequent postings I made with
regard to Carsten's filter.  My problem boiled down to the template
being coded for a Beta version.  Mine is below, and I have it working
on v1.62r.


%SetPattRegExp='^X-POPFile-Link: (.*?)$'%-
%RegExpBlindMatch=%Headers
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe %SubPatt='1'


Hope this helps.

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Re: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile

2003-08-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, August 3, 2003, Deborah W wrote:

 Question 1: Where can I find the Grisoft AVG plug-in for TB? I looked in
 the TBUDL archives, but the Grisoft page mentioned there is no longer on
 the Grisoft site.

they introduced new web and plugin pages are temporarily unavailable.
In AVG7 is plugin included in installation package, for AVG6 is plugin
here:

ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe

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defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread sam chrisp
mmk. didn't spot anything in the faq/archives about this.
on a sidenote - only making the archives viewable at 10 posts per page is near useless 
IMHO.
need the option to view at least 50 at a time.

anyway.

the properties for each folder has an 'Use the account default column settings' 
checkbox.
exactly how though, does one specify the account default column settings?

my problem is i want the column layout to look the same across all folders,
but i can see no other way to achieve that without manually setting up every folder.

anyone? TIA.

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Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account?

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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Sam,

@3-Aug-2003, 19:14 +1000 (10:14 UK time) sam chrisp [SC] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The:

SC the properties for each folder has an 'Use the account default
SC column settings' checkbox. exactly how though, does one specify
SC the account default column settings?

Just change any one of the folders flagged as following the default
settings. The changes will be reflected around the others.

There are actually two different default column settings. One for
threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion.

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Re[2]: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread sam chrisp
ahh.

not the most intuitive way to do it IMO.
'account default settings' has the implication that one needs to set specific defaults

a label on the properties page above the checkbox - worded properly - would be 
something to consider adding.

recieved: 3/08/2003 8:47 p.m.
 Just change any one of the folders flagged as following the default
 settings. The changes will be reflected around the others.

 There are actually two different default column settings. One for
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Re: help needed with a macro

2003-08-03 Thread Allie Martin
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Jurgen Haug, [JH] wrote:

JH I am a member of the mailing lists Opera and WDVLTALK, can
JH anyone please tell me how to modify this macro
JH %SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=.

JH so that it is filtering out the [ou] and [wdvltalk] in the subject
JH line?

Try this one:

%SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?i)\A:?\s*(\[.*?\])?%-
(\s*(re|re-[1-9]|aw|antwort|fw|fwd|wg)(\[\w*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)%-
(\s*(\(was:.*\)|\(fwd.*\)|\z))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OSUBJ%-
%SUBPATT=5%-

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RE:help needed with a macro

2003-08-03 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Allie,

Sunday, August 3, 2003, 1:24:16 PM, you wrote:

 %SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?i)\A:?\s*(\[.*?\])?%-
 (\s*(re|re-[1-9]|aw|antwort|fw|fwd|wg)(\[\w*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)%-
 (\s*(\(was:.*\)|\(fwd.*\)|\z))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OSUBJ%-
 %SUBPATT=5%-


that works as expected! I am so glad to have you guys, without TBUDL, The Bat would be 
more The Bad to me, not half as useful as it is now! Thanks!

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Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Trevor Langford

Sunday, August 3, 2003, 10:38:58 AM, you wrote:
TN Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account?

Thorvald,

Not that I am aware of (useful feature request!).
However, what you can do is copy the filter(s) into Notepad and paste
them into the other account.

Create a new blank text document in Notepad
Open account with filters you want to copy (Account / Sorting Office -
Filters)
1   Click to highlight a filter to copy.
2   Ctrl-C (copy)
3   Switch to Notepad then
4   Ctl-V (paste)
Click back into the filters dialog and repeat steps 1 - 4 until you
have all filters in Notepad.


When you have finished, copy all the contents of the Notepad document
(Ctrl-A followed by Ctrl-C)

Now, go to the new account where you want the filters imported.
Open the filters dialog (Account / Sorting Office - Filters)
Right- Click the appropriate filter group (incoming, outgoing etc).
Choose Paste.

All your filters will go in!

This method is also useful for manual editing where one thing changes
such as an e-mail address. Instead of going through each filter in
turn, edit the Notepad document with search and replace, then import
it in.

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Re: Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Deborah W
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 5:38:58 AM, Thorvald Neumann wrote:

TN Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account?

Highlight the first filter you want to copy,  copy it (either using the
right-click menu or Ctrl-C). Open Notepad  Paste it in there. Now
highlight the next filter  copy  paste it to Notepad too. Continue
until you have all the filters in the Notepad document. Now highlight
the whole lot,  press Ctrl-C to copy it. Go to the account where you
want those filters to be,  open the Sorting Office. Highlight the
Incoming (or whichever's appropriate)  press Ctrl-V to paste. All the
filters will be copied there.

AFAIK there's no faster way to get all the filters *into* Notepad, but
maybe someone else knows of one.

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Re[2]: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile

2003-08-03 Thread Deborah W
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 5:04:00 AM, Marek Mikus wrote:

MM they introduced new web and plugin pages are temporarily
MM unavailable. In AVG7 is plugin included in installation package, for
MM AVG6 is plugin here:

MM ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe

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Re[2]: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile

2003-08-03 Thread Deborah W
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 3:25:31 AM, Allister Jenks wrote:

AJ Deborah, I don't know if you saw the subsequent postings I made with
AJ regard to Carsten's filter. My problem boiled down to the template
AJ being coded for a Beta version. Mine is below, and I have it working
AJ on v1.62r.

AJ %SetPattRegExp='^X-POPFile-Link: (.*?)$'%-
AJ %RegExpBlindMatch=%Headers C:\Program Files\Internet
AJ Explorer\iexplore.exe %SubPatt='1'

Thank you - but I still can't get it to work. I replaced the appropriate
bit in Carsten's filter with the bit you gave me above, then cut 
pasted the whole filter into the Sorting Office, but no luck. I'm
getting something that looks like it might be a DOS screen when I try it
- but it flashes up so briefly I can't tell. It's not doing anything
for POPfile as far as I can tell :-(

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Re: Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Thanks to Trevor and Deborah; this worked ok, even if this is quite
tediuos when the filter list is long... ;)

I wish there where global filters which work with all accounts...

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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread zParticle
There are actually two different default column settings. One for
threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion.

Or, more precisely, one for each of the five threading styles,
including None.  Defaults also seem to have a scope limited to the
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Re[2]: Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Deborah W
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 9:44:51 AM, Thorvald Neumann wrote:

TN I wish there where global filters which work with all accounts...

You *could* set up a filter in each account which would move *every*
email to a particular account,  then set up global filters for *that*
account - which would do the same thing, but it's not ideal :-/

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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Zparticle,

@3-Aug-2003, 08:43 -0500 (14:43 UK time) zParticle [Z] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

There are actually two different default column settings. One for
threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the
confusion.

Z Or, more precisely, one for each of the five threading styles,
Z including None.  Defaults also seem to have a scope limited to
Z the current account.

Yes, hence *Account* default column settings :-).

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Re: Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Dan Grunberg
Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:51:20 [GMT +0100] (8:51 AM EDT here) Trevor
Langford wrote:


 Sunday, August 3, 2003, 10:38:58 AM, you wrote:
TN Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account?

 Not that I am aware of (useful feature request!). However, what you
 can do is copy the filter(s) into Notepad and paste them into the
 other account.

After copying the filter(s) into another account, be sure to check any
paths that are included in the copy of the filter filter.

For example, suppose Filter is being copied from Account_1 to
Account_2. Also suppose that in Account_1 Filter is set up to:
  Move messages to folder [Trash]

The Account_2 copy of Filter will be set up to:
  Move messages to folder [\\Account_1\Trash]
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Re: Easy copying of filters to another account

2003-08-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Deborah,

On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:53:30 -0400 GMT (03/08/2003, 20:53 +0700 GMT),
Deborah W wrote:

TN I wish there where global filters which work with all accounts...

 You *could* set up a filter in each account which would move *every*
 email to a particular account,  then set up global filters for *that*
 account - which would do the same thing, but it's not ideal :-/

You would have to manually re-filter the Inbox in that account, as
filters in that account won't work when the message comes into the
Inbox by that way. :-(

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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marck,

on Sun, 3 Aug 2003 15:22:45 +0100GMT (03.08.03, 16:22 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

There are actually two different default column settings. One for
threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the
confusion.

Z Or, more precisely, one for each of the five threading styles,
Z including None.  Defaults also seem to have a scope limited to
Z the current account.

MDP Yes, hence *Account* default column settings :-).

Where all common folders seem to be one account... I like this very
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English dictionary

2003-08-03 Thread Paul Richardson

My copy of The Bat only offers a US dictionary, which is of limited
use to me. Where can I get an English dictionary?

The Help file, which must be The Bat's weakest feature (I've just
spent an hour trying to find out how to edit an e-mail in the Outbox), is of no help.

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Re: English dictionary

2003-08-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Paul,

@3-Aug-2003, 18:05 Paul Richardson [PR] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

PR My copy of The Bat only offers a US dictionary, which is of
PR limited use to me. Where can I get an English dictionary?

You need to install the International Support Pack to enable British
English dictionaries.

You can download this from the FTP site or from
http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

PR The Help file, which must be The Bat's weakest feature (I've
PR just spent an hour trying to find out how to edit an e-mail in
PR the Outbox),

Just double click on the message in the message list.

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Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, August 2, 2003, 10:23:38 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 Filters will synchronize, as well as templates. However, basic interface
 configuration will not be synchronized since both systems may run at
 different resolutions. As a result, interface appearance settings have a
 high likelihood of being different.

I have not found this to be the case.  Synchronize will work on the
message base and address books, but does not work on account settings
and filters.

I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date,
so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can
collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2
days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine.  Every couple
of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP
connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up
the accounts.

In general it works well, but I do end up with duplicates,
particularly because the filters don't copy.

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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread Dave Goodman
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Just change any one of the folders flagged as following the default
 settings. The changes will be reflected around the others.

Well and good. Been doing this since I began using TB!

 There are actually two different default column settings. One for
 threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion.

 Add me to the confused. As I read this you're saying that column
 settings can be set up so there is a default for a threaded
 presentation, and a different default for non-threaded presentations.

 How, specifically, would one implement this?

 As an example, I would like to have folders of emails unthreaded, but
 with a uniform column arrangement across those folders.

 I would also like to have all my (many) mailing list folders with a
 uniform column arrangement across those folders, but with threading
 by either reference or subject implemented.

 Can this be done? How?

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Re: English dictionary

2003-08-03 Thread Paul Richardson

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 You need to install the International Support Pack to enable British
 English dictionaries.

TVM

I thought there might be an easier option. This file is bigger than
the program file (!) and contains masses of stuff which is of no use to
me.

 Just double click on the message in the message list.

TVM again. That escaped me. The solution I eventually found was a
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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Dave,

@3-Aug-2003, 15:59 -0400 (20:59 UK time) Dave Goodman [DG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 There are actually two different default column settings. One for
 threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the
 confusion.

DG  Add me to the confused. As I read this you're saying that
DG  column settings can be set up so there is a default for a
DG  threaded presentation, and a different default for non-threaded
DG  presentations.

Actually one presentation for non-threaded and one for each
threading method.

DG  How, specifically, would one implement this?

One would arrange the columns for each threading permutation. Select
non-threaded; arrange columns. Select Thread by reference; arrange
columns; Select Thread by subject; arrange columns - and so on.

Now just use Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-2 etc to select the view on-the-fly.

DG As an example, I would like to have folders of emails
DG unthreaded, but with a uniform column arrangement across those
DG folders.

DG I would also like to have all my (many) mailing list folders
DG with a uniform column arrangement across those folders, but with
DG threading by either reference or subject implemented.

DG  Can this be done? How?

Not really, because you are only given one Default column settings
per account. Of course, you could have an account for lists and an
account for the others. One of these accounts need only be a dummy
account as a filter target. Other than that, just use Alt-1
threading for the most part and switch to unthreaded with Alt-0 on
demand.

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Re: Mail ticker changing properties

2003-08-03 Thread Robin Anson
On Fri 1 August 2003, 18:50:38 +1000, daniel hahler wrote:
AAG trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application.

 Same applies to PowerMenu.. there is no window (aka system) menu for
 the MailTicker and ''PowerMenu -transparency MailTicker 70'' does
 not work for the same reason..

AAG I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart
AAG window. :((

There is a program call Froost that will see it. That might help you.
I don't have the URL to hand, so you'll have to search for it.

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Re: defining account default column sizes

2003-08-03 Thread Dave Goodman
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

DG  Add me to the confused. As I read this you're saying that
DG  column settings can be set up so there is a default for a
DG  threaded presentation, and a different default for non-threaded
DG  presentations.

 Actually one presentation for non-threaded and one for each
 threading method.

DG  How, specifically, would one implement this?

 One would arrange the columns for each threading permutation. Select
 non-threaded; arrange columns. Select Thread by reference; arrange
 columns; Select Thread by subject; arrange columns - and so on.

 Now just use Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-2 etc to select the view on-the-fly.

Marck, thanks for your reply.

What you suggest is essentially what I have been doing. But I read into
your original remark more than was there; namely that one could have
truly independent column/sort settings for unthreaded vs. threaded (of
various kinds) folders, without selecting the threading mode as one
entered each folder. Apparently not so.

Stefan Tanurkov threw out this teaser a few days ago:

 It is also planned to make it possible to define various views (based
 on combination of the settings from the View menu) and switch between
 them quickly...

Perhaps this will address some of these issues. Or perhaps wishful
thinking...   :)

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Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Allie,

Sunday, August 3, 2003, 12:39:06 AM, you wrote:

AM Sorry for the funny metaphor, but when you have young kids like I have,
AM everything can potentially talk and develops a personality.

Don't appologize, that clarifies things greatly.  Before I leave for
work, I'll have to remember to create a map file from my home machine.
 THen, when I'm through with my day, I make the sync file based on the
 map from home.  I bring that, plus a map file made from work home to
 repeat the process the next day.  Maybe I'll just do this over the
 weekends g.  THanks again for the clarification.

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Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Allie,

Sunday, August 3, 2003, 12:58:43 AM, you wrote:

AM Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the
AM mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you
AM do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the
AM synchronisation.

Would this capture filters, views, addressbooks, etc...?  I'm not very
familiar with where TB keeps those files -- I'm coming from Outlook
and Outlook Express which scatter files everywhere making it nearly
impossible to do what you're describing.

AM If you have a remove-able drive like a Zip Disk, you could even have
AM your mail folder on it and take it with you when leaving either system.
AM However, you'd have to do some regular archiving to keep the Mail folder
AM size down.

I'd thought of this, but wouldn't it make accessing messages
time-consuming?  I was thinking of using those little USB drives, the
ones which can fit on a keychain and hold 128 MB or so.  Obviously,
I'd have to keep the mail within that size, but then I could just plug
the folder in either at home or at work.  Also, in theory, this setup
offers a degree of extra security as the mail is physically in my
pocket and not on a machine somewhere.  Again, as mentioned above, I'm
not sure about addressbooks, filters, views, ...

AM Of course, the ideal solution to your situation would be IMAP accounts.
AM :) TB!'s completely revamped IMAP support is currently in beta testing
AM stages so stay tuned.

Definitely a good suggestion, my only concern would be the ability to
filter messages via Imap?  I couldn't set up filtering at work --
they're using Exchange and as far as I know, the filtering will only
work via Outlook.  Still, maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong?

Again, thanks for all the niformation,

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Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Julian,

Sunday, August 3, 2003, 2:33:41 PM, you wrote:

JBL I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date,
JBL so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can
JBL collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2
JBL days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine.

I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop
when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you
would leave mail on the server.

JBL Every couple
JBL of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP
JBL connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up
JBL the accounts.

So, the account settings aren't getting preserved in the backup -- the
backup which you're restoring on the laptop?  Xray sounds interesting
-- I'm assuming it's an SMTP server of some sort which you're running
locally.  If that's the case, I should get more info on it as that's
going to be my next challenge.

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Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steve,

On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:18:31 -0400 GMT (04/08/2003, 08:18 +0700 GMT),
Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:

 I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop
 when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you
 would leave mail on the server.

I used to leave messages on server for a couple of days when I wanted
to have the messages bases complete on both PCs, the one at home and
the one in the office. I never ever bothered with TB's synchronisation
function.

JBL Every couple of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to
JBL manage SMTP connections) from a backup of the Desktop
JBL installation and re-set up the accounts.

 So, the account settings aren't getting preserved in the backup -- the
 backup which you're restoring on the laptop?  Xray sounds interesting
 -- I'm assuming it's an SMTP server of some sort

No, X-Ray just manages SMTP servers; depending on where you are, you
might need to use a different one. www.xrayapp.com X-Ray was written
with TB in mind.

An SMTP server that apparently works well with TB, is Hamster:
searching for URL - scratching head - I know I had it - search
failed.

You may also want to check out The Batch:
http://www.snurl.com/thebatch It is TB-to-go. No need to have 2
instances of TB, have just one on a zip drive or USB drive and carry
it around with you. Don't lose that drive, though. ;-)

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Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-03 Thread Allie Martin
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Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote:

AM Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the
AM mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you
AM do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the
AM synchronisation.

SMS Would this capture filters,

Yes.

SMS views,

I doubt this. Views and window configuration are settings stored in the
registry. If you're using TB! on separates systems you may very well not
wish to synchronise that part of things anyway since optimal window size
and fonts would depend on screen size and display resolution.

SMS addressbooks, etc...?

If your address books are in the default location, then yes.

Templates, account settings, mail and address books are all stored in the
mail folder by default.

SMS I'm not very familiar with where TB keeps those files -- I'm coming
SMS from Outlook and Outlook Express which scatter files everywhere
SMS making it nearly impossible to do what you're describing.

Though TB!, by default, keeps all these together, you can store your
address books anywhere you like. You may also store your main mail
folder or an accounts data or a particular folders mail in a specific
location of your choice.

SMS I'd thought of this, but wouldn't it make accessing messages
SMS time-consuming?  I was thinking of using those little USB drives,
SMS the ones which can fit on a keychain and hold 128 MB or so.

Yes. The message base access time may be slower, but it's all give and
take.

I once managed all my mail across my network on another machine. I moved
my mail folder to the other machine soon after a hard disk failure on my
working machine. I was surprised how well it worked considering. Initial
opening of a folder containing more than 10,000 messages was distinctly
slower but that was about it.

SMS Obviously, I'd have to keep the mail within that size, but then I
SMS could just plug the folder in either at home or at work.  Also, in
SMS theory, this setup offers a degree of extra security as the mail is
SMS physically in my pocket and not on a machine somewhere.

Yes

SMS Again, as mentioned above, I'm not sure about addressbooks,
SMS filters, views, ...

View configuration would be the only thing that wouldn't be on the disk.

SMS Definitely a good suggestion, my only concern would be the ability to
SMS filter messages via Imap?  I couldn't set up filtering at work --
SMS they're using Exchange and as far as I know, the filtering will only
SMS work via Outlook.  Still, maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong?

Wait for v2 of TB! and see. The IMAP support will be much better then.

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Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-03 Thread Spike
Hello zParticle,

On or about Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 22:37:33GMT -0500 (which was
10:37 PM in the tropics where I live) zParticle posted:

z It sounds like I didn't overlook something obvious, anyway, The
z Bat! just doesn't appear to cater to those of us who prefer to use
z fixed width fonts most of the time.

I never use ANYTHING else!  TB! does this with no effort on my part
:-)


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Re: Mail ticker changing properties

2003-08-03 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 4 August 2003, 8:54:47 +1000, Robin Anson wrote:
 On Fri 1 August 2003, 18:50:38 +1000, daniel hahler wrote:
AAG trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application.

 Same applies to PowerMenu.. there is no window (aka system) menu for
 the MailTicker and ''PowerMenu -transparency MailTicker 70'' does
 not work for the same reason..

AAG I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart
AAG window. :((

 There is a program call Froost that will see it. That might help you.
 I don't have the URL to hand, so you'll have to search for it.

Further to my last comment, I have done some further web searching and
experimentation and discovered a few 3rd party apps that make windows
transparent:
   * Actual Transparent Windows ($19.95) -
 http://www.actualtools.com/transparentwindows/
   * Froost (freeware) -
 http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/froost/
   * Glass2K (beta v 0.9.2) (freeware) -
 http://www.chime.tv/products/glass2k.shtml
   * Powermenu (freeware) -
 http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/
   * Trans2K ($2.95) - http://www.545studios.com/products.php?id=11
   * Transparent Windows ($19.95) - http://www.nccsoft.net/
   * Transperizer v0.5 (freeware) -
 ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/winsite/win95/miscutil/transperizer.exe

Of these, I could make Actual Transparent Windows, Froost, Transparent
Windows and Transperizer recognise the Message Ticker. ATW, Froost and
Transperizer allow you to set different levels of transparency for
different windows. The Transparent Windows appears just to have a
single global level of transparency that is either on or off for
individual windows.

If you are prepared to pay $19.95, ATW appears to be the most stable
and functional application, and pretty reasonable value for money. Of
the freeware applications, Transperizer appears more stable, although
both are a bit clumsy to use.

Note that I could find both v0.4.4 and v0.5 of Transperizer on the
net. The homepage for it (http://win2k.davet.net) does not appear to
be available.

Robin

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