Re: Filtering after a first filter dont work
Hello Wilfried, Ok, I get it working, That is what is important :-) ...but I'm not sure I did it the right way. I am not sure there is a right way. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
help needed with a macro
Hallo Fledermäuse, I am a member of the mailing lists Opera and WDVLTALK, can anyone please tell me how to modify this macro %SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?i)\A:?\s*(\s*(re|re-[1-9]|aw|antwort|fw|fwd|wg)(\[\w*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)(\s*(\(was:.*\)|\(fwd.*\)|\z))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OSUBJ%SUBPATT=4%- so that it is filtering out the [ou] and [wdvltalk] in the subject line? examples: [wdvltalk] RE:RE:RE:RE:Re: was css now Wooo-Hooo Re: [OU] M2 Manual Storage Thank you! -- regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on WinXP.5.1.2600.SP1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile
On Sunday, 3 August 2003, at 1:16:43 p.m., Deborah W wrote: Question 2: While looking in the archives for this info, I came across a thread titled First email client with built in Popfile. In this thread, Carsten Thonges gave a cut paste for a filter which could be used to re-classify messages easily using a TB shortcut. I've tried to copy paste the filter, changing the Opera bit to a Mozilla bit (since that's my browser of choice) but it isn't working for me - is there anyone who would be willing to have a look at it to see if they can get it to work? TIA :-) Deborah, I don't know if you saw the subsequent postings I made with regard to Carsten's filter. My problem boiled down to the template being coded for a Beta version. Mine is below, and I have it working on v1.62r. %SetPattRegExp='^X-POPFile-Link: (.*?)$'%- %RegExpBlindMatch=%Headers C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe %SubPatt='1' Hope this helps. Regards, Allister. -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile
Hello all, Sunday, August 3, 2003, Deborah W wrote: Question 1: Where can I find the Grisoft AVG plug-in for TB? I looked in the TBUDL archives, but the Grisoft page mentioned there is no longer on the Grisoft site. they introduced new web and plugin pages are temporarily unavailable. In AVG7 is plugin included in installation package, for AVG6 is plugin here: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
defining account default column sizes
mmk. didn't spot anything in the faq/archives about this. on a sidenote - only making the archives viewable at 10 posts per page is near useless IMHO. need the option to view at least 50 at a time. anyway. the properties for each folder has an 'Use the account default column settings' checkbox. exactly how though, does one specify the account default column settings? my problem is i want the column layout to look the same across all folders, but i can see no other way to achieve that without manually setting up every folder. anyone? TIA. regards, sam chrisp Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Easy copying of filters to another account
Hæ! Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sam, @3-Aug-2003, 19:14 +1000 (10:14 UK time) sam chrisp [SC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: SC the properties for each folder has an 'Use the account default SC column settings' checkbox. exactly how though, does one specify SC the account default column settings? Just change any one of the folders flagged as following the default settings. The changes will be reflected around the others. There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPyzoUDnkJKuSnc2gEQKoUwCeI5yaT3ifFAN92L4rCCuw4prvGecAn0Zz Llb1dQT77XKHemgLQxXdRGXt =sXxk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: defining account default column sizes
ahh. not the most intuitive way to do it IMO. 'account default settings' has the implication that one needs to set specific defaults a label on the properties page above the checkbox - worded properly - would be something to consider adding. recieved: 3/08/2003 8:47 p.m. Just change any one of the folders flagged as following the default settings. The changes will be reflected around the others. There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: help needed with a macro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jurgen Haug, [JH] wrote: JH I am a member of the mailing lists Opera and WDVLTALK, can JH anyone please tell me how to modify this macro JH %SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=. JH so that it is filtering out the [ou] and [wdvltalk] in the subject JH line? Try this one: %SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?i)\A:?\s*(\[.*?\])?%- (\s*(re|re-[1-9]|aw|antwort|fw|fwd|wg)(\[\w*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)%- (\s*(\(was:.*\)|\(fwd.*\)|\z))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OSUBJ%- %SUBPATT=5%- - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyzw41fJ62ArBxfiEQKafgCgp0g4Ao4+7r8ymcroCCE6JrFtmOMAn1b9 mY+Y/npPvBifGfQbDfxy0rvw =rTRp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:help needed with a macro
Hello Allie, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 1:24:16 PM, you wrote: %SUBJECT=RE:%SETPATTREGEXP=(?i)\A:?\s*(\[.*?\])?%- (\s*(re|re-[1-9]|aw|antwort|fw|fwd|wg)(\[\w*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)%- (\s*(\(was:.*\)|\(fwd.*\)|\z))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OSUBJ%- %SUBPATT=5%- that works as expected! I am so glad to have you guys, without TBUDL, The Bat would be more The Bad to me, not half as useful as it is now! Thanks! -- Regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Easy copying of filters to another account
Sunday, August 3, 2003, 10:38:58 AM, you wrote: TN Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account? Thorvald, Not that I am aware of (useful feature request!). However, what you can do is copy the filter(s) into Notepad and paste them into the other account. Create a new blank text document in Notepad Open account with filters you want to copy (Account / Sorting Office - Filters) 1 Click to highlight a filter to copy. 2 Ctrl-C (copy) 3 Switch to Notepad then 4 Ctl-V (paste) Click back into the filters dialog and repeat steps 1 - 4 until you have all filters in Notepad. When you have finished, copy all the contents of the Notepad document (Ctrl-A followed by Ctrl-C) Now, go to the new account where you want the filters imported. Open the filters dialog (Account / Sorting Office - Filters) Right- Click the appropriate filter group (incoming, outgoing etc). Choose Paste. All your filters will go in! This method is also useful for manual editing where one thing changes such as an e-mail address. Instead of going through each filter in turn, edit the Notepad document with search and replace, then import it in. Trevor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy copying of filters to another account
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 5:38:58 AM, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account? Highlight the first filter you want to copy, copy it (either using the right-click menu or Ctrl-C). Open Notepad Paste it in there. Now highlight the next filter copy paste it to Notepad too. Continue until you have all the filters in the Notepad document. Now highlight the whole lot, press Ctrl-C to copy it. Go to the account where you want those filters to be, open the Sorting Office. Highlight the Incoming (or whichever's appropriate) press Ctrl-V to paste. All the filters will be copied there. AFAIK there's no faster way to get all the filters *into* Notepad, but maybe someone else knows of one. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 5:04:00 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: MM they introduced new web and plugin pages are temporarily MM unavailable. In AVG7 is plugin included in installation package, for MM AVG6 is plugin here: MM ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe Thank you :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2 questions: re AVG Popfile
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 3:25:31 AM, Allister Jenks wrote: AJ Deborah, I don't know if you saw the subsequent postings I made with AJ regard to Carsten's filter. My problem boiled down to the template AJ being coded for a Beta version. Mine is below, and I have it working AJ on v1.62r. AJ %SetPattRegExp='^X-POPFile-Link: (.*?)$'%- AJ %RegExpBlindMatch=%Headers C:\Program Files\Internet AJ Explorer\iexplore.exe %SubPatt='1' Thank you - but I still can't get it to work. I replaced the appropriate bit in Carsten's filter with the bit you gave me above, then cut pasted the whole filter into the Sorting Office, but no luck. I'm getting something that looks like it might be a DOS screen when I try it - but it flashes up so briefly I can't tell. It's not doing anything for POPfile as far as I can tell :-( -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy copying of filters to another account
Hæ! Thanks to Trevor and Deborah; this worked ok, even if this is quite tediuos when the filter list is long... ;) I wish there where global filters which work with all accounts... -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. Or, more precisely, one for each of the five threading styles, including None. Defaults also seem to have a scope limited to the current account. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Easy copying of filters to another account
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, 9:44:51 AM, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN I wish there where global filters which work with all accounts... You *could* set up a filter in each account which would move *every* email to a particular account, then set up global filters for *that* account - which would do the same thing, but it's not ideal :-/ -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Zparticle, @3-Aug-2003, 08:43 -0500 (14:43 UK time) zParticle [Z] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. Z Or, more precisely, one for each of the five threading styles, Z including None. Defaults also seem to have a scope limited to Z the current account. Yes, hence *Account* default column settings :-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPy0auTnkJKuSnc2gEQIAAQCfdaoiFxaHACDSNkGNvSHofbq5CBoAn1W+ z+0xtsO/2s0Vge6175SkcHaw =g1Dc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy copying of filters to another account
Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:51:20 [GMT +0100] (8:51 AM EDT here) Trevor Langford wrote: Sunday, August 3, 2003, 10:38:58 AM, you wrote: TN Is there an easy way of copying a lot of filters to another account? Not that I am aware of (useful feature request!). However, what you can do is copy the filter(s) into Notepad and paste them into the other account. After copying the filter(s) into another account, be sure to check any paths that are included in the copy of the filter filter. For example, suppose Filter is being copied from Account_1 to Account_2. Also suppose that in Account_1 Filter is set up to: Move messages to folder [Trash] The Account_2 copy of Filter will be set up to: Move messages to folder [\\Account_1\Trash] which may not (or may) be where you want the messages to go. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy copying of filters to another account
Hello Deborah, On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:53:30 -0400 GMT (03/08/2003, 20:53 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: TN I wish there where global filters which work with all accounts... You *could* set up a filter in each account which would move *every* email to a particular account, then set up global filters for *that* account - which would do the same thing, but it's not ideal :-/ You would have to manually re-filter the Inbox in that account, as filters in that account won't work when the message comes into the Inbox by that way. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Why do people give each other flowers? To celebrate various important occasions, they're killing living creatures? Why restrict it to plants? Sweetheart, let's make up. Have this deceased squirrel. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
Hi Marck, on Sun, 3 Aug 2003 15:22:45 +0100GMT (03.08.03, 16:22 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. Z Or, more precisely, one for each of the five threading styles, Z including None. Defaults also seem to have a scope limited to Z the current account. MDP Yes, hence *Account* default column settings :-). Where all common folders seem to be one account... I like this very much. :) -- Cheers Peter If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush... Winamp currently playing: Michelle Branch - You Set Me Free Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
English dictionary
My copy of The Bat only offers a US dictionary, which is of limited use to me. Where can I get an English dictionary? The Help file, which must be The Bat's weakest feature (I've just spent an hour trying to find out how to edit an e-mail in the Outbox), is of no help. TIA -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English dictionary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @3-Aug-2003, 18:05 Paul Richardson [PR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PR My copy of The Bat only offers a US dictionary, which is of PR limited use to me. Where can I get an English dictionary? You need to install the International Support Pack to enable British English dictionaries. You can download this from the FTP site or from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html PR The Help file, which must be The Bat's weakest feature (I've PR just spent an hour trying to find out how to edit an e-mail in PR the Outbox), Just double click on the message in the message list. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPy1LYjnkJKuSnc2gEQIo/QCg+lM2OpSa7BS5vlswypHWtEU0irkAnj/m F6FwsTuA5+40RnFMT9BzPk+w =uBYT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
On Saturday, August 2, 2003, 10:23:38 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Filters will synchronize, as well as templates. However, basic interface configuration will not be synchronized since both systems may run at different resolutions. As a result, interface appearance settings have a high likelihood of being different. I have not found this to be the case. Synchronize will work on the message base and address books, but does not work on account settings and filters. I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date, so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2 days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine. Every couple of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up the accounts. In general it works well, but I do end up with duplicates, particularly because the filters don't copy. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Just change any one of the folders flagged as following the default settings. The changes will be reflected around the others. Well and good. Been doing this since I began using TB! There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. Add me to the confused. As I read this you're saying that column settings can be set up so there is a default for a threaded presentation, and a different default for non-threaded presentations. How, specifically, would one implement this? As an example, I would like to have folders of emails unthreaded, but with a uniform column arrangement across those folders. I would also like to have all my (many) mailing list folders with a uniform column arrangement across those folders, but with threading by either reference or subject implemented. Can this be done? How? -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.61 Windows 98 4.10 A Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English dictionary
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: You need to install the International Support Pack to enable British English dictionaries. TVM I thought there might be an easier option. This file is bigger than the program file (!) and contains masses of stuff which is of no use to me. Just double click on the message in the message list. TVM again. That escaped me. The solution I eventually found was a context menu click with the message highlighted. -- Paul Richardson Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, @3-Aug-2003, 15:59 -0400 (20:59 UK time) Dave Goodman [DG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There are actually two different default column settings. One for threaded view and one for unthreaded. Just to add to the confusion. DG Add me to the confused. As I read this you're saying that DG column settings can be set up so there is a default for a DG threaded presentation, and a different default for non-threaded DG presentations. Actually one presentation for non-threaded and one for each threading method. DG How, specifically, would one implement this? One would arrange the columns for each threading permutation. Select non-threaded; arrange columns. Select Thread by reference; arrange columns; Select Thread by subject; arrange columns - and so on. Now just use Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-2 etc to select the view on-the-fly. DG As an example, I would like to have folders of emails DG unthreaded, but with a uniform column arrangement across those DG folders. DG I would also like to have all my (many) mailing list folders DG with a uniform column arrangement across those folders, but with DG threading by either reference or subject implemented. DG Can this be done? How? Not really, because you are only given one Default column settings per account. Of course, you could have an account for lists and an account for the others. One of these accounts need only be a dummy account as a filter target. Other than that, just use Alt-1 threading for the most part and switch to unthreaded with Alt-0 on demand. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPy18rDnkJKuSnc2gEQLoxgCfWdOnH63Qm/S2/MHYkPNpmoQo280An3iU ZwEe54TLwB9cI+G3d5CEY96b =CM/U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail ticker changing properties
On Fri 1 August 2003, 18:50:38 +1000, daniel hahler wrote: AAG trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application. Same applies to PowerMenu.. there is no window (aka system) menu for the MailTicker and ''PowerMenu -transparency MailTicker 70'' does not work for the same reason.. AAG I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart AAG window. :(( There is a program call Froost that will see it. That might help you. I don't have the URL to hand, so you'll have to search for it. Robin -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: defining account default column sizes
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DG Add me to the confused. As I read this you're saying that DG column settings can be set up so there is a default for a DG threaded presentation, and a different default for non-threaded DG presentations. Actually one presentation for non-threaded and one for each threading method. DG How, specifically, would one implement this? One would arrange the columns for each threading permutation. Select non-threaded; arrange columns. Select Thread by reference; arrange columns; Select Thread by subject; arrange columns - and so on. Now just use Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-2 etc to select the view on-the-fly. Marck, thanks for your reply. What you suggest is essentially what I have been doing. But I read into your original remark more than was there; namely that one could have truly independent column/sort settings for unthreaded vs. threaded (of various kinds) folders, without selecting the threading mode as one entered each folder. Apparently not so. Stefan Tanurkov threw out this teaser a few days ago: It is also planned to make it possible to define various views (based on combination of the settings from the View menu) and switch between them quickly... Perhaps this will address some of these issues. Or perhaps wishful thinking... :) -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.61 Windows 98 4.10 A Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Allie, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 12:39:06 AM, you wrote: AM Sorry for the funny metaphor, but when you have young kids like I have, AM everything can potentially talk and develops a personality. Don't appologize, that clarifies things greatly. Before I leave for work, I'll have to remember to create a map file from my home machine. THen, when I'm through with my day, I make the sync file based on the map from home. I bring that, plus a map file made from work home to repeat the process the next day. Maybe I'll just do this over the weekends g. THanks again for the clarification. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Allie, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 12:58:43 AM, you wrote: AM Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the AM mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you AM do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the AM synchronisation. Would this capture filters, views, addressbooks, etc...? I'm not very familiar with where TB keeps those files -- I'm coming from Outlook and Outlook Express which scatter files everywhere making it nearly impossible to do what you're describing. AM If you have a remove-able drive like a Zip Disk, you could even have AM your mail folder on it and take it with you when leaving either system. AM However, you'd have to do some regular archiving to keep the Mail folder AM size down. I'd thought of this, but wouldn't it make accessing messages time-consuming? I was thinking of using those little USB drives, the ones which can fit on a keychain and hold 128 MB or so. Obviously, I'd have to keep the mail within that size, but then I could just plug the folder in either at home or at work. Also, in theory, this setup offers a degree of extra security as the mail is physically in my pocket and not on a machine somewhere. Again, as mentioned above, I'm not sure about addressbooks, filters, views, ... AM Of course, the ideal solution to your situation would be IMAP accounts. AM :) TB!'s completely revamped IMAP support is currently in beta testing AM stages so stay tuned. Definitely a good suggestion, my only concern would be the ability to filter messages via Imap? I couldn't set up filtering at work -- they're using Exchange and as far as I know, the filtering will only work via Outlook. Still, maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong? Again, thanks for all the niformation, Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Julian, Sunday, August 3, 2003, 2:33:41 PM, you wrote: JBL I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date, JBL so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can JBL collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2 JBL days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine. I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you would leave mail on the server. JBL Every couple JBL of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP JBL connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up JBL the accounts. So, the account settings aren't getting preserved in the backup -- the backup which you're restoring on the laptop? Xray sounds interesting -- I'm assuming it's an SMTP server of some sort which you're running locally. If that's the case, I should get more info on it as that's going to be my next challenge. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
Hello Steve, On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:18:31 -0400 GMT (04/08/2003, 08:18 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you would leave mail on the server. I used to leave messages on server for a couple of days when I wanted to have the messages bases complete on both PCs, the one at home and the one in the office. I never ever bothered with TB's synchronisation function. JBL Every couple of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to JBL manage SMTP connections) from a backup of the Desktop JBL installation and re-set up the accounts. So, the account settings aren't getting preserved in the backup -- the backup which you're restoring on the laptop? Xray sounds interesting -- I'm assuming it's an SMTP server of some sort No, X-Ray just manages SMTP servers; depending on where you are, you might need to use a different one. www.xrayapp.com X-Ray was written with TB in mind. An SMTP server that apparently works well with TB, is Hamster: searching for URL - scratching head - I know I had it - search failed. You may also want to check out The Batch: http://www.snurl.com/thebatch It is TB-to-go. No need to have 2 instances of TB, have just one on a zip drive or USB drive and carry it around with you. Don't lose that drive, though. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If they don't want us to drink and drive, why do you have to have a driver's license to buy beer? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: AM Another way to do the regular synchronisation would be to backup the AM mail folder on the laptop each day and restore it to the desktop. If you AM do any major changes like creating a new account, then do the AM synchronisation. SMS Would this capture filters, Yes. SMS views, I doubt this. Views and window configuration are settings stored in the registry. If you're using TB! on separates systems you may very well not wish to synchronise that part of things anyway since optimal window size and fonts would depend on screen size and display resolution. SMS addressbooks, etc...? If your address books are in the default location, then yes. Templates, account settings, mail and address books are all stored in the mail folder by default. SMS I'm not very familiar with where TB keeps those files -- I'm coming SMS from Outlook and Outlook Express which scatter files everywhere SMS making it nearly impossible to do what you're describing. Though TB!, by default, keeps all these together, you can store your address books anywhere you like. You may also store your main mail folder or an accounts data or a particular folders mail in a specific location of your choice. SMS I'd thought of this, but wouldn't it make accessing messages SMS time-consuming? I was thinking of using those little USB drives, SMS the ones which can fit on a keychain and hold 128 MB or so. Yes. The message base access time may be slower, but it's all give and take. I once managed all my mail across my network on another machine. I moved my mail folder to the other machine soon after a hard disk failure on my working machine. I was surprised how well it worked considering. Initial opening of a folder containing more than 10,000 messages was distinctly slower but that was about it. SMS Obviously, I'd have to keep the mail within that size, but then I SMS could just plug the folder in either at home or at work. Also, in SMS theory, this setup offers a degree of extra security as the mail is SMS physically in my pocket and not on a machine somewhere. Yes SMS Again, as mentioned above, I'm not sure about addressbooks, SMS filters, views, ... View configuration would be the only thing that wouldn't be on the disk. SMS Definitely a good suggestion, my only concern would be the ability to SMS filter messages via Imap? I couldn't set up filtering at work -- SMS they're using Exchange and as far as I know, the filtering will only SMS work via Outlook. Still, maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong? Wait for v2 of TB! and see. The IMAP support will be much better then. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPy2+TlfJ62ArBxfiEQLWLQCgzFvkBb/TczR/vaKiVT7+XY5culoAmgK2 aEhsmFweiTFN4w8ANLH0hOtB =X1Xc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
Hello zParticle, On or about Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 22:37:33GMT -0500 (which was 10:37 PM in the tropics where I live) zParticle posted: z It sounds like I didn't overlook something obvious, anyway, The z Bat! just doesn't appear to cater to those of us who prefer to use z fixed width fonts most of the time. I never use ANYTHING else! TB! does this with no effort on my part :-) -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the decade: Oxymoron: American English /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail ticker changing properties
On Mon 4 August 2003, 8:54:47 +1000, Robin Anson wrote: On Fri 1 August 2003, 18:50:38 +1000, daniel hahler wrote: AAG trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application. Same applies to PowerMenu.. there is no window (aka system) menu for the MailTicker and ''PowerMenu -transparency MailTicker 70'' does not work for the same reason.. AAG I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart AAG window. :(( There is a program call Froost that will see it. That might help you. I don't have the URL to hand, so you'll have to search for it. Further to my last comment, I have done some further web searching and experimentation and discovered a few 3rd party apps that make windows transparent: * Actual Transparent Windows ($19.95) - http://www.actualtools.com/transparentwindows/ * Froost (freeware) - http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/froost/ * Glass2K (beta v 0.9.2) (freeware) - http://www.chime.tv/products/glass2k.shtml * Powermenu (freeware) - http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/ * Trans2K ($2.95) - http://www.545studios.com/products.php?id=11 * Transparent Windows ($19.95) - http://www.nccsoft.net/ * Transperizer v0.5 (freeware) - ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/winsite/win95/miscutil/transperizer.exe Of these, I could make Actual Transparent Windows, Froost, Transparent Windows and Transperizer recognise the Message Ticker. ATW, Froost and Transperizer allow you to set different levels of transparency for different windows. The Transparent Windows appears just to have a single global level of transparency that is either on or off for individual windows. If you are prepared to pay $19.95, ATW appears to be the most stable and functional application, and pretty reasonable value for money. Of the freeware applications, Transperizer appears more stable, although both are a bit clumsy to use. Note that I could find both v0.4.4 and v0.5 of Transperizer on the net. The homepage for it (http://win2k.davet.net) does not appear to be available. Robin -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html