Re[3]: PGP signature

2003-08-29 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
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Hash: SHA1

Thursday, August 28, 2003
7:11:05 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: PGP signature

Greetings Michael,

On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 6:55:46 PM, you wrote:

Michael Hello DG,

Michael On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 18:23:59 [GMT -0400] (which was 23:23 in my
Michael TimeZone) you wrote:

DRS On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 2:05:43 PM, you wrote:

Michael   Is there any way to add some ones key from a
Michael message? When I get a PGP
Michael   signed message, and click on the signature
Michael button on the viewer, it
Michael   opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it
Michael   to my keyring.

Michael   Any ideas?

Michael   I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5

DRS When you select to verify the key of another your PGP should
DRS automatically scan the public key servers for that individuals key.
DRS Once located a box should pop up with the key information and you
DRS should hit SELECT then IMPORT.

Michael I dont get these options, just the log window opens.

I am using PGP 6.8.5ckt from http://ipgpp.veniece.com/ .
PGP 8 gave me fits and and 6.8.5ckt plugs right into The_Bat!

Anyway ...

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Re: Filters, Spam and Edits

2003-08-29 Thread Allie Martin
Bill Blinn Technology Editor, [BBT] wrote:

BBT There might be a better way. A new user asked about the ability to
BBT edit received messages. Without testing, I replied, Try Ctrl-E. So
BBT today I tried it and thought I had provided bad advice.

BBT Ctrl-E opens the message for editing as I said.

This is actually a redirect operation that you've executed. The official
shortcut is CTRL-F6. However, at times there are times when a single
operation is bound to multiple shortcuts and you seem to have stumbled
on one of them.

For editing messages, I've created two filters. The first filter exports
the message and opens the exported message in my favourite text editor.

I edit the message, save it and then execute the next filter that
imports the exported messages (now edited). I import to my imports
folder. I then move the message to the desired location.

The first filter follows. Simply copy it to your clipboard, including
the 'beginfilter' and 'endfilter' lines. Paste in your filter set. Use
the replied or read filter set. Before copying, you could alter the
paths for the 'extcmd' and 'Extfile' to reflect your preference. You'll
also need to assign a hotkey for it.

BeginFilter
Name: Export for editing
Active: 1
Source: \\alliem\Inbox
Target: \\alliem\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40'e'
Actions: faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
ExtCmd: C:\Applications\TextPad\textpad.exe C:\Backup-cmds\edit.txt
ExtFile: C:\Backup-cmds\edit.txt
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 49241
EndFilter


The second filter that imports the edited export follows:

BeginFilter
Name: Import after editing
Active: 1
Source: \\alliem\Inbox
Target: \\alliem\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40'e'
Actions: faExternal,faoRunDetached,faoManualOnly,faoWaitCompletion,faoHotKey
ExtCmd: c:\backup-cmds\import.bat
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 49225
EndFilter


The import command is actually run via a .cmd file containing the import
command:

C:\Applications\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORTF=Imports;X;IN=C:\backup-cmds\edit.txt;R

Imports is the name of the folder I wish to import to.  You can read
up the syntax of the command in the help.

Currently, to refine things, I have those two filter actions to be run
via two PowerPro toolbar buttons.

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Re: PGP signature

2003-08-29 Thread Allie Martin
Michael Thompson, [MT] wrote:

MT Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a
MT PGP signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer,
MT it opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding
MT it to my keyring.

MT Any ideas?

I assume that you've enabled the PGP 8 integration with TB! by going to
Tools/OpenPGP/'Choose OpenPGP Version'?

After doing that, go to Tools/OpenPGP/OpenPGP Preferences.

The PGP options dialog should appear.

Go to the Servers tab and enable the option:

Synchronize with server upon ... verification.

You can now try checking a signature signed with a key not on your
keyring. The autochecking mechanism should be triggered. If it's not,
then I don't know what's wrong. Likely a problem with your PGP
installation.

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Re: regexp in selective download filter problem

2003-08-29 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Timur Kadyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm trying to filter out messages with From: field containing
 address that starts with 238, and then has three digits before @.
 Regexp I'm using is ^238\d\d\d@ .

Try

(?m)^From:\s*238\d{3}@

any search in the entire header. You have to switch on
PCRE_MULTILINE (see help file) for the circumflex to work.

 I tested this regexp with regular
 filter -- it worked just fine (after I enabled regular expression
 filtering).

In regular filters PCRE_MULTILINE is active by default.
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Viewing mime attachments

2003-08-29 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi List,

 I did a cursory search of the archives, and the answer to my question
 doesn't seem promising. Is there a way to automatically view mime
 attachments? I'm really frustrated with clicking. Although, the way
 TB! handles the list's digest is nice, bringing up a new message
 window.

 TB! 1.62r

 Also, what will happen if I click Install The Bat! as the simple MAPI
 request handler? Specifically, what I would like to do is have an
 application be notified by TB! when a particular type of email
 arrives. Can it do that? I know about the Run external program
 option in the action tab of the filters section, which will do the
 job just fine. But what can the MAPI handler do? There doesn't seem
 to be a help section on this topic.

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Re: Viewing mime attachments

2003-08-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Christopher,

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:44:28 -0500 GMT (29/08/2003, 09:44 +0700 GMT),
Christopher Brown wrote:

  I did a cursory search of the archives, and the answer to my question
  doesn't seem promising. Is there a way to automatically view mime
  attachments? I'm really frustrated with clicking.

Then TB might not be your best choice. Try Outlook or Outlook Express;
with the correctly configured Email, they will run attachments
automatically. This user-friendly behaviour was created by MS to make
the life of virus-writers easier. Unfortunately, the makers of TB have
no heart for virus-writers. :-(

 Also, what will happen if I click Install The Bat! as the simple
 MAPI request handler?

Example: You have a Word document open in Word. You go to File / Send
to / Mail recipient, and the document will be attached to an email.
If TB is your MAPI client, this email will be created in TB, i.e. TB
will be automatically opened and a new message generated.

 Specifically, what I would like to do is have an application be
 notified by TB! when a particular type of email arrives. Can it do
 that?

No, MAPI cannot, but Incoming filters can.

 I know about the Run external program option in the action tab of
 the filters section, which will do the job just fine.

Exactly. :-)

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Question about macro, filter template library

2003-08-29 Thread PIXIE

I'm trying out a few things with filters and figured I would use try
some I see in the repository.

I'm a bit confused though. Looking at:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#filter+collection for
instance..

The long list of BeginFiler, EndFilter, settings, arguments, etc then
looking at the sorting office input area(s)..

Is there some file to paste into or filter import option that would
put all the stuff in the proper place, so I could then examine via the
sorting office panels and ascertain a little more insight?

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Re: Question about macro, filter template library

2003-08-29 Thread Allie Martin
Pixie, [P] wrote:

P http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#filter+collection for
P instance..

P The long list of BeginFiler, EndFilter, settings, arguments, etc then
P looking at the sorting office input area(s)..

P Is there some file to paste into or filter import option that would
P put all the stuff in the proper place, so I could then examine via the
P sorting office panels and ascertain a little more insight?

The filter format you see is how the filter looks when you copy it and
paste it in your editor. To import the filter, copy the filter, starting
from the 'beginfilter' and going to and including the 'endfilter' string.

Now open sorting office filters, right click on the filter set you wish
to import the filter to and select paste.

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Re[2]: Question about macro, filter template library

2003-08-29 Thread Pixie
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 05:56:31 -0500 GMT, Allie Martin wrote:

AM Now open sorting office filters, right click on the filter set you wish
AM to import the filter to and select paste.

Now isn't that too simple!  I'd been looking at the input panel after
I hit new, scratching head, looking at example thinking I must be
missing something. :-)

I would never had thought to paste to the inbox folder icon to create
the rule.

I find it amusing that the Save your time - Extend your life! sloagn
for TB is my goal, if I can survive learning how to use it! G

BTW: I dunno what the deal with email is/was or why it seemed to be
out to lunch for a few hours.  I sent the original message once and
roughtly 3 hours later I had not gotten a copy back from the list. So
there may be a dupe showing up -sometime- in the list.

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Question about macro, filter template library

2003-08-29 Thread PIXIE

I'm trying out a few things with filters and figured I would use try
some I see in the repository.

I'm a bit confused though. Looking at:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#filter+collection for
instance..

The long list of BeginFiler, EndFilter, settings, arguments, etc then
looking at the sorting office input area(s)..

Is there some file to paste into or filter import option that would
put all the stuff in the proper place, so I could then examine via the
sorting office panels and ascertain a little more insight?

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Re: Problem with sending attachments

2003-08-29 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary,

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:21:31 +0200GMT (28-8-03, 14:21 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MC The problem doesn't lie with the reserve provider, because I can send
MC attachments with the Netscape e-mail program.

MC Any idea where the problem could be with The Bat?

It seems most likely to me me that you've problems between TB and a
firewall.

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Re: Problem with sending attachments

2003-08-29 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:21:31 PM, Mary Cassidy wrote:

 The problem doesn't lie with the reserve provider, because I can send
 attachments with the Netscape e-mail program. I use a router with the
 main provider, and an external modem with the reserve one.

 Any idea where the problem could be with The Bat?

This problem rings a bell, but I cannot remember the details.  I am
pretty sure that the problem is not with TB! however - I think that
the problem will be with your router, possibly with any firewall
settings you have in it, or in any software firewall you have.

You say that you can send messages with Netscape?  Is this the same
message and attachment, with the router, using the same provider?

The other thing that causes a sudden disconnection of your internet
connection is Blaster, of course, so it could be worth checking.

Sorry if this is not much help - more questions - but perhaps the
answers may help someone else suggest a solution.

Julian

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Re: Question about macro, filter template library

2003-08-29 Thread Tim
On Friday, 29 August 2003, PIXIE wrote:


P I'm a bit confused though. Looking at:
P http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#filter+collection
P for instance..
P The long list of BeginFiler, EndFilter, settings, arguments, etc
P then looking at the sorting office input area(s)..

Ignore the Sorting Office input areas. Copy the text from the webpage,
select the filter set in the sorting office (eg, Incoming mail),
type Ctrl-V (or right-click, select Paste) and watch the filter
appear.

P Is there some file to paste into or filter import option that would
P put all the stuff in the proper place, so I could then examine via
P the sorting office panels and ascertain a little more insight?

Exactly as described above. What you see in the website is a text
version of what appears in the sorting office panels. Click on a
filter in TB! and choose Copy; look at the Clipboard, you'll see
something like what's on the website. And vice versa.


ON another note, the specific example filters you linked to are for
eliminating spam. I suggest installing POPFile, setting up a filter
for the POPFile X-Text-Classification header, and forgetting these
other spam filters.


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Re[2]: PGP signature

2003-08-29 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Allie,

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, at 21:33:59 [GMT -0500] (which was 03:33 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:

AM I assume that you've enabled the PGP 8 integration with TB! by going to
AM Tools/OpenPGP/'Choose OpenPGP Version'?

Yeap, done that. But TB does throw a wobbler at that point, saying
that the dll Entry point cant be found.

AM After doing that, go to Tools/OpenPGP/OpenPGP Preferences.

AM The PGP options dialog should appear.

AM Go to the Servers tab and enable the option:

AM Synchronize with server upon ... verification.

This is how it is already.

AM You can now try checking a signature signed with a key not on your
AM keyring. The autochecking mechanism should be triggered. If it's not,
AM then I don't know what's wrong. Likely a problem with your PGP
AM installation.

Umm, I'll try re-installing then.

Thanks Allie.


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Re: Problem with sending attachments

2003-08-29 Thread Mary Cassidy

Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:


 This problem rings a bell, but I cannot remember the details.

I think I raised it on this list about a year ago, before I got the
router.

 I am
 pretty sure that the problem is not with TB! however - I think that
 the problem will be with your router, possibly with any firewall
 settings you have in it, or in any software firewall you have.

I've recently installed Zone Alarm, but the problem existed even
before that.

 You say that you can send messages with Netscape?  Is this the same
 message and attachment, with the router, using the same provider?

I have no problem with the router, only with the modem. I've made some
more tests since posting the first message, and the connection is
terminated whenever I send any attachment (except a very small one)
using the Bat! and the modem, with any provider, including the one I
use with the router.

If I send the same attachment with the modem using Netscape, I have no
trouble at all. IIRC the problem started when I installed Win2000. My
provider thinks there must be some kind of restriction in The Bat!
which doesn't operate when I use the router.

 The other thing that causes a sudden disconnection of your internet
 connection is Blaster, of course, so it could be worth checking.

No, the problem started long before Msblast was invented, and anyway
my computer's clean and patched.

Thanks for the suggestions, anyway.

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Re: PGP signature

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Angliss

 When you select to verify the key of another your PGP should
 automatically scan the public key servers for that individuals key.
 Once located a box should pop up with the key information and you
 should hit SELECT then IMPORT. Once you have imported the key open
 PGPKeys and select that key then select SIGN. If you have configured
 your PGP properly is should then attempt to connect to a public key
 server and update that signed key.

Of course, you sign the key only when you have verified it good, by
contacting the owner of the key... You never know who may be tweaking ;) 
Or who is relying on your signature. :)

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how to filter msgs in imap account?

2003-08-29 Thread Samson
Hello tbudl,

seems the sorting office doesn't work for imap account. how do i
automatically filter msgs retrieved in imap account?

thanks.


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Re: how to filter msgs in imap account?

2003-08-29 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Samson,

on Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:00:32 -0700GMT (29.08.03, 18:00 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

S (Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 )

You'd better ask on TBBETA. :-)

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Re[2]: Question about macro, filter template library

2003-08-29 Thread Pixie
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:22:25 +1000 GMT, Tim wrote:

T ON another note, the specific example filters you linked to are for
T eliminating spam. I suggest installing POPFile, setting up a filter
T for the POPFile X-Text-Classification header, and forgetting these
T other spam filters.

I'll give POPFile a look. Seems pretty neat.

Along these lines, I was looking at the Actions  Advanced tabs and
there seems to be no way to specify an address book in the 'add to
address book' settings.  Isn't there a way to specify an address
book or is default the only option?

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Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Dutton
J I'm  suprised at how well TB! is doing, I know it's the ebst mailer in
J the world but I was suprised that so many other people do.

BBTE An announcement to a group such as this can skew the results a bit.
BBTE But that's OK. Maybe it will convince more people to look at it. TB
BBTE could own the power users (maybe it already does) and better
BBTE documentation could bring more average users in.

Agreed - what percentage of Outlook or Outlook Express users
subscribe to technical magazines/lists? In fact what is someone who
reads such articles doing with Outlook in the first place?

Shame on them...



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