Re: Wishlist item for scrutiny
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:19:39 -0400 GMT, Vishal wrote: V I disagree. I think it increases the work and I'd rather get down to reading my V email immediately. Perhaps it wasn't clear, this was not suggested as a replacement to the default operation unless you want it.. as in _alternative_ default. I'm assuming you don't disagree with options? -- Pixie Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I love these! They still have the distinctly modern look of the new TB, but add some colour, so the buttons are easier to see and distingiuish. Thanks. :-) Yes, much nicer. Any chance of the folder unread and read icons having yellow envelopes too (I know others will like it as it is though!) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hello Richard, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any chance of the folder unread Oops, meant message list. sorry. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Marck Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:29:41 AM, you wrote: MDP Yes. MDP Many have. So could you suggest someone who has? It would be a big help. MDP A *significantly* larger proportion have *not*. Yep, I'm aware of this. V I'd rather not shift to Kerio yet as ZA is otherwise an excellent V firewall. MDP Kerio is an *excellent* firewall. It works well and in a seamless MDP manner for all. ZA is a good firewall for many, but not for most. MDP That precludes it from the excellence tag in my mind. In your mind, yes. In my mind and that of most others who use it not in conjunction with TB, ZA is excellent. One app does not a reputation destroy. MDP Oh yes, and MDP Kerio is free. I don't see why the resistance. I've paid for the Pro version. I like the interface and trust its protection. I'm not sure if Kerio offers all the features ZA Pro does. I haven't had time to check out Kerio and have not discussed it with people who can vouch for it as much as ZA. MDP If ZA works for you, MDP fine - stay with it. If it is impeding you, as it has impeded many MDP others - get it out of there! :-). I've thought about it. But ZA works for the most part, and if there's a way to get it working properly with TB I'd rather do that. TB isn't as indispensable to me. Maybe version 2.0 will change that :) Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: different reply quotes for different people
Hi Thomas Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 12:34:36 PM, you wrote: TF I have a weird feeling I replied to this in the morning. Either you TF posted the same question on another list, or I just received a TF duplicate of your message, or I'm experiencing a deja-vu. Maybe you did. I posted some messages twice on TBUDL because my posts haven't been showing up on the list for some reason. I seem to get everyone else's except my own, but it's erratic. Sorry if you had to expend extra effort! For some reason I never got your first reply either. TF Check out the %QuoteStyle=expression macro in the help file. I am TF using %QuoteStyle=Mutti for messages to my mother. Awesome! It worked. Thanks a lot! Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Vishal, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2 Sep 2003 19:53:15 (my local time 3 sep 2003 01:53:15), you typed: V Personally, I think a new skin for TB is a great idea. I've often found myself V wishing for one. As long as there is a default skin that caters to the blind, V having alternatives to spice up TB's otherwise bland interface would be great. I can see where you're coming from and your wish is ok, imho, as long as functionality is the same. I don't want to miss functionality just because i can't see to use it, so if we have the same functionality but different looks, that's ok, otherwise it's not. - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.0 Beta/1, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/VY23ODlJeoMTOQsRAvMVAKDVeGpvOPUUtNOfMiiQrJVzuk7SXgCgpHeT eHU3XRsbo7mCxqlEssWoeLY= =oTzw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder moving
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello o, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 6:30:32 AM, you wrote: ovgd A found a little problem: ovgd I have 7 POP Acounts and 1 IMAP (just created) ovgd I can move the POP accounts by pressing ovgd Shift+CTRL+Cursor, but I cann't move ovgd the IMAP account... ovgd If I select the account above the IMAP account and move it down, I can ovgd change the order without problem ovgd Using The Bat 2.0 with WinXP SP1 Confirmed here. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1WUrVv+PP8p0/caEQLdJACgpPUBF0+h0SH5vkRD9C7he7/hTCUAoLAh cIdH93ablRcEah/exGrbFpZS =KMKX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder moving
Hi! ovgd A found a little problem: ovgd I have 7 POP Acounts and 1 IMAP (just created) ovgd I can move the POP accounts by pressing ovgd Shift+CTRL+Cursor, but I cann't move ovgd the IMAP account... Confirmed here. Funny.. isn't it? Bye, Oliver Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and GMX (Mailprovider)
Hi! I did some test with IMAP and GMX and discovered some problems: 1. I create a new folder in The Bat. It is shown correct within GMX, but I have to restart The Bat to see the folder. 2. Existing folders using umlauts are shown very funny within the Bat (e.g. PersAPY-nlich instead of Persönlich) 3. I cann't create subfolders. Is that not supportet by GMX? BTW... What is the correct setting to get all messages and than delete it it at the server automatically? -- Bye, Oliver Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello Deborah, I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? On the bright side, the installation, as you say, was a dream - fast simple. That's great news, because I install TB several times a day ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Grrrrrrrr. Account groups still broken!
I thought for sure v2 would fix this problem. Apparently not! I add a sixth account to my group and it shows up just fine for a while until, at some point, it disappears again! MOST annoying. Anybody succeeded in finding a workaround to this bug? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hallo Michael, On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:10:51 -0500GMT (3-9-03, 5:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MH For those interested, I have made some very minor changes to the MH glyphs.bmp file for TB!2.0 MH I just added a little bit of colour, Definitely an improvement. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hi Michael Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 11:10:51 PM, you wrote: MH Hi, MH For those interested, I have made some very minor changes to the MH glyphs.bmp file for TB!2.0 MH I just added a little bit of colour, and made the Outbox folder red if MH it has anything in it (I often forget to send things). I just downloaded version 2.0 and I'm glad to see an interface change over 1.62r. I definitely like it better so far, but more color is definitely nice :) If there's any way you could mark specifically which icons you changed, it would be great. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam blacklist
Hey Marck, on Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:44:40 +0100 you wrote: Create a special group in your address book (or a special address book) and put the list of email addresses in there. Now use the 'Advanced' filter option of Sender must be in address book/group. Thanks for your response. I made up a blacklist group and used the advanced filter (neat in itself!), but when this (the blacklist filter) is active it shuts down all my other spam filters. What am I missing? Paco Using The Bat! 1.62q under Windows XP Home,version 2000 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hi! For those interested, I have made some very minor changes to the glyphs.bmp file for TB!2.0 Great! Thanks! bye, Oliver Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Grrrrrrrr. Account groups still broken!
Hallo Allister, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 19:33:38 +1200GMT (3-9-03, 9:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ I thought for sure v2 would fix this problem. Apparently not! AJ I add a sixth account to my group and it shows up just fine for a AJ while until, at some point, it disappears again! Accounts are stored in the registry. Do you run a tool take restores your registry? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam blacklist
Hallo Paco, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:58:05 +0200GMT (3-9-03, 9:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Create a special group in your address book (or a special address book) and put the list of email addresses in there. Now use the 'Advanced' filter option of Sender must be in address book/group. PC Thanks for your response. I made up a blacklist group and used PC the advanced filter (neat in itself!), but when this (the PC blacklist filter) is active it shuts down all my other spam PC filters. Did you add this AB filter to your previous filter as an additional condition set? That's the only reason I can imagine that it interferes with your old filter. Create a new filter, use as condition a dot in the kludges (triggers always) and set the address book condition on the 'Advanced' tab. If this isn't the case, then you'd better post your filter, so we can have a look at it. In order to post a filter, select it in the sorting office, press Ctrl-C (don't use the copy-button, that's something entirely different) and paste it into your message. PC What am I missing? A correct signature delimiter: dash, dash, space, enter at a new line. That enables your correspondents with adult mail clients to automatically strip your signature (and the list's) in a reply. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macro / Template annoyances
Hi,
Apparently macro placement has become more critical in v2.00 - I was
able to use %ACCOUNT anywhere in the (AB) template with 1.62r where
now it will break (if placed below) %fromname.
Why would I do that? Because of the annoying blank lines that are
added to a message when templates use certain macros.
Is there a way that despite the apparent new placement requirements
that I can keep macros such as %ACCOUNT, %QUOTES, etc from adding
their own new lines?
The only resolution which seems to be is to put all the macros on one
line, which is rather nasty looking in the template editor.
EG:
%ACCOUNT=PICTURES%
TO=%TO=%OFromName [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS GMT, %OFROMNAME wrote:
..will add new lines at the top of the message.
Similarly, I wound up using %QUOTES%CURSOR since %QUOTES adds a blank
line. There is generally enough cleanup to do when replying for me to
enjoy cleaning up what the template produces also.
With 1.62r the macros that generate these new lines seemed quite
comfortable being below the tear-line thus provided a decent
workaround.
-- Pixie
TB! v2.00 on Windows 95 (4.0.1212 C)
Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro / Template annoyances
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 P Is there a way that despite the apparent new placement requirements P that I can keep macros such as %ACCOUNT, %QUOTES, etc from adding P their own new lines? Try %ACCOUNT%-, %QUOTES%-, etc The %- suppresses the newline. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP1WqItttnLhkydF1EQLkkgCglGmH4SJYqsqYWep8RzJ6VdysUxcAnjFu jeyvBe11DOeVBYwVmW3a2DEr =TDbk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Grrrrrrrr. Account groups still broken!
On Wednesday, 3 September 2003, at 8:07:36 p.m., Roelof Otten wrote: AJ I thought for sure v2 would fix this problem. Apparently not! AJ I add a sixth account to my group and it shows up just fine for a AJ while until, at some point, it disappears again! Accounts are stored in the registry. Do you run a tool take restores your registry? Not that I am aware of? I've played around with group consists a lot in the past and it only seems to be now with my sixth account that I am having problems. I've just tried a new approach - I added *two* more accounts to my group, in the hopes that the one I want will stay! -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro / Template annoyances
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:45:01 +0100 GMT, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH Try SH %ACCOUNT%-, %QUOTES%-, etc SH The %- suppresses the newline. GREAT! Thank you! Will try it right now! -- Pixie TB! v2.00 on Windows 95 (4.0.1212 C) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! Spam page
Hi all, The Bat spam page is missing from the new site. Does anyone know of an alternate site to get the page from or who I should contact about getting the page back up? I've just run into another situation where someone is using content filtering and rejecting on the X-Mailer header and I'd like to refer them to that page. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving to next unread message
Hi, Sometimes I can move to the next unread message in an account by using Ctrl+RightArrow. Other times that will not work and I have to use Ctrl+Alt+RightArrow. Can anyone explain why this is? I also echo the call elsewhere for a key to move to the next unread across all accounts. -- William Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat 2: a first glance ... and ... a disapointment
Hi, well because I use TheBat since a very long time I really looked forward to the Version 2. why? full IMAP support, well it has and it looks good, full Multi Language Support, means Japanese (ISO-2022-JP, Chinese, Korean, etc) ... but no, same bad thing like before. why? Why is there no better support for this, why is there no sepperate setting for each language and their fonts. A very bad thing IMO. Or perhaps I missed it? Next thing is the PGP implementation. with the built in there is still no possibility to easily add a public key or check a key online, nor to export your generated key to a key server. So, on the first glance there is nothing new. I should pay something for this? why? I'd rather switch to Mozilla, I might have a downpoint with notification of new mail there but I have perferect multi language support, perfect Open/GNUpg implementation (through enigmail, I'd suggest to the TheBat developers to take a look at it, to see HOW a cryption plugin shall work), etc. well I just hope the version 2 might fixes the points in future, but I doubt. at the moment I will stick with 1.6x. works okay for me. ... :( -- Clemens, just a bit disapointed by thebat :( Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fastmail, IMAP and The Bat! 2.0
Hello Keith, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 12:37:04 AM, you wrote: KR This showed INBOX with a + sign next to it. KR Clicking the + sign brings up the default Drafts / Sent items / Trash KR _under_ the Inbox folder. Silly of me, but I missed that + sign Thanks. I did the same thing initially. I now have that part done, but I cannot get The Bat! to use the IMAP based Sent Items and Trash folders. Jeff -- Jeffrey A. Shumway Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam blacklist
Hey Roelof, on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:19:15 +0200 you wrote: Did you add this AB filter to your previous filter as an additional condition set? Yes, that's what I did. I have created a new filter for the AB and it works now. Thanks for your help. PC What am I missing? A correct signature delimiter: dash, dash, space, enter at a new line. That enables your correspondents with adult mail clients to automatically strip your signature (and the list's) in a reply. I'm a little vague as to where this delimiter should go. Is it it in the right spot? -- Paco Using The Bat! 1.62q under Windows XP Home,version 2000 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to next unread message
Hello William, Sometimes I can move to the next unread message in an account by using Ctrl+RightArrow. Other times that will not work and I have to use Ctrl+Alt+RightArrow. Can anyone explain why this is? It depends on focus being on Message List pane or Preview pane, but I don't know why. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wishlist item for scrutiny
Message list scroll down automatically to show thread expansion for the thread which is selected and expanded. With view all messages my default I constantly find the need to expand threads, then scroll, wash rinse repeat.. -- Pixie TB! v2.00 on Windows 95 (4.0.1212 C) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
G'day Michael, On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, at 22:10:51 [GMT -0500] (13:10 here) you wrote: MH Hi, MH For those interested, I have made some very minor changes to the MH glyphs.bmp file for TB!2.0 That looks *much* better thank you! ...snip.. -- znark The Bat! 2.00 Windows XP - Service Pack 1 POPFile 0.19.1 PGP 6.5.8ckt - Build 08 My cat is good for nothing, but he's very, very good! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll
Alexander A. Gomanyuk, [AAG] wrote: AAG I'v got while choosing PGP version message (look AAG http://www.dlv.rt.ru/splinty/TB2_PGP.JPG) AAG and that's all. AAG Would U advice, how i can correct that problem ? I've seen this message on many occasions as well and have reported it. I've been seeing it every time I open the 'Choose OpenPGP version' selection dialog. However, since I first saw it some time ago, I've been using the PGP integrated support with PGP 8 without any problems. All operations working just fine. The same when I switch to GnuPG. AAG Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence AAG public Key of recipients. Have you confirmed that the recipient really hasn't received an encrypted message. If TB! can tell which key to use based on the name and e-mail address in the headers, it will encrypt on sending without any sort of prompt. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Spam page
Terry, T Hi all, T The Bat spam page is missing from the new site. Does anyone know of T an alternate site to get the page from or who I should contact about T getting the page back up? I've just run into another situation where T someone is using content filtering and rejecting on the X-Mailer T header and I'd like to refer them to that page. Thanks in advance. They have completely redesigned TB's main page -- among other things, the design includes multiple languages so the directory navigating scheme is a bit different. Check it out at http://www.ritlabs.com. You can find The_Bat!'s page right here, now: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/recent%20sketches/Best%20stale%20loaf.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
It seems that MAU said ... M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like this: This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to see all your personal information. I contacted the government to investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. and this BEWARE!!! Secretly sends your password to malicious hackers! This program is not what it seems. My technical software analysis team has debugged the program and found it to be full of holes and security breaches. It doesn't just install spyware on your system. It also sends your password to most likely malicious hackers. Then a few months when you least suspect, your email account is taken over and un-usable. This program also appears to send your email to multiple advertising companies, hence making you put up with more and more ads in your inbox each day. There have been a number of programs that are silimar to this one, it's only a matter of time before they can be stopped! There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 7:25 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Cats must need to use ALL the kitty litter to bury their poop. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Vishal, [V] wrote: V So could you suggest someone who has? It would be a big help. I've had problems. When I did, the problems weren't restricted to just TB!, though they initially started with TB! after having no problems for some time before. My problems progressed to complete blocks of my internet connection with difficulties connecting to my ISP. A reboot would fix the problems. As Roelof pointed out in one of his messages, it would appear that things can go awry with ZA during long periods of machine uptime. As soon as I discovered the problem I switched to using one of the many capable alternatives out there. ZA is a good blocker, but there are alternatives that will do just as well. V In your mind, yes. In my mind and that of most others who use it not V in conjunction with TB, ZA is excellent. One app does not a V reputation destroy. It's problems aren't only confined to TB! use. But then, problems vary in severity if and when they exist at all. All in all, this makes its reliability questionable. Of course, nothing beats ones own personal experience. If it's working for you then use it. V I've paid for the Pro version. I like the interface and trust its V protection. I'm not sure if Kerio offers all the features ZA Pro V does. You should take a look. As the man who popularized ZA says, Tiny Personal Firewall, now known as Kerio, is 'terrific' and it would have been his personal choice if at the time it has multiprocessor support. :) I've personally used it and found it to be a step up from ZA in configurability and tunability. Most of all, it *never* did any unexpected blocking and worked and worked, no matter the machine's uptime. V I've thought about it. But ZA works for the most part, and if there's V a way to get it working properly with TB I'd rather do that. TB isn't V as indispensable to me. Maybe version 2.0 will change that :) There are no clients that I know of that will do the things TB! can on a specific basis or on the basis as TB! as an overall package. TB! is not replaceable for me at least. There are many capable firewall's out there. If one isn't working for me, I can easily find one that does. There's Kerio, Sygate, Outpost, 8 Signs, BlackICE (my current choice), among other. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam blacklist
Hallo Paco, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:21:36 +0200GMT (3-9-03, 12:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PC I'm a little vague as to where this delimiter should go. Is it PC it in the right spot? Yep. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! Spam page
Allen, A Terry, T Hi all, T The Bat spam page is missing from the new site. Does anyone know of T an alternate site to get the page from or who I should contact about T getting the page back up? I've just run into another situation where T someone is using content filtering and rejecting on the X-Mailer T header and I'd like to refer them to that page. Thanks in advance. A They have completely redesigned TB's main page -- among other things, A the design includes multiple languages so the directory navigating A scheme is a bit different. Check it out at http://www.ritlabs.com. A You can find The_Bat!'s page right here, now: A http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ Sorry, meant to point you to the sitemap, but upon further perusal it's not listed there either . . . so, I'm useless here. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Another%20Cold%20Evening/all%20the%20happy%20days%20hang%20from.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX (Mailprovider)
Hi, Oliver wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I did some test with IMAP and GMX and discovered some problems: 1. I create a new folder in The Bat. It is shown correct within GMX, but I have to restart The Bat to see the folder. Have you tried the IMAP folder management dialog, it should find the new folder. 2. Existing folders using umlauts are shown very funny within the Bat (e.g. PersAPY-nlich instead of Persönlich) This has already been reported, it is a known issue and it will hopefully be addressed. 3. I cann't create subfolders. Is that not supportet by GMX? Yes, as far as I know, GMX currently does not support folder nesting. BTW... What is the correct setting to get all messages and than delete it it at the server automatically? I can't help you with that. What you want is like emulating POP3 but via IMAP with multiple folders. Perhaps somebody else can help. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat 2: a first glance ... and ... a disapointment
Clemens Schwaighofer, [CS] wrote: CS well because I use TheBat since a very long time I really looked CS forward to the Version 2. why? full IMAP support, well it has and it CS looks good, full Multi Language Support, means Japanese CS (ISO-2022-JP, Chinese, Korean, etc) ... but no, same bad thing like CS before. why? Why is there no better support for this, why is there CS no sepperate setting for each language and their fonts. A very bad CS thing IMO. Or perhaps I missed it? You haven't missed anything. Apparently this is planned for future releases in the near future. CS Next thing is the PGP implementation. with the built in there is CS still no possibility to easily add a public key Are you speaking of the PGP integrated support for v5,6,7,8 or are you referring to the internal PGP version? The inbuilt integration for PGP v5,6,7,8 works pretty much like how the previous plugins worked when doing these sort of key management manoeuvres. How is it that you wish to add a public key? Usually, if the PGPKey is in the message text, then doing a verify, or using the 'import PGP certificate' command from the Tools/Message Security' options will initiate the importation process. If you attempt to verify a signature and you don't have the key on your keyring, PGP's autokey finder will start provided you configured PGP to do so. If you're using the internal PGP which is v2.6, then I'd not advise this since you're stuck with using only RSA keys. CS or check a key online, nor to export your generated key to a key CS server. So, on the first glance there is nothing new. There's a lot that's new. You just have no interest in using them. No problem there really. Everyone works differently. CS I should pay something for this? No one is saying you should. :) Upgrade only if it's worth your while. CS I'd rather switch to Mozilla, I might have a downpoint with CS notification of new mail there but I have perferect multi language CS support, perfect Open/GNUpg implementation (through enigmail, I'd CS suggest to the TheBat developers to take a look at it, to see HOW a CS cryption plugin shall work), etc. TB!'s plugin for the later versions of PGP work just fine and with its macro support will do things other plugins will not. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll
03.09.2003, U wrote: Alexander A. Gomanyuk, [AAG] wrote: AAG Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence AAG public Key of recipients. Have you confirmed that the recipient really hasn't received an encrypted message. If TB! can tell which key to use based on the name and e-mail address in the headers, it will encrypt on sending without any sort of prompt. That keys DOES exists, and moreover it's old keys, not just created. But when i check Encrypt when Completed and try to send message NOTHING happen ! Message's window remain unchanged... Regards, AG Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam plugin download location ?
Hi everyone, I'm just wondering where I could find a spam plugin for my newly upgraded TheBat 2.0. Can anyone tell me? Regards, Denis Hay Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! Spam page
Hello Allen, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 1:47:48 PM, you wrote: A Sorry, meant to point you to the sitemap, but upon further perusal A it's not listed there either . . . so, I'm useless here. I found that google still had it in memory. The link is: http://www.google.fr/search?q=cache:TThpN1rr1AAJ:www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html+the+bat!+ritlabs+spam+toolhl=frie=UTF-8 Hope it will work for you. Otherwise, try searching The Bat! and The Spammer under google, and look at cached page. -- Best regards, Julien RANC. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX (Mailprovider)
Hi! 1. I create a new folder in The Bat. It is shown correct within GMX, but I have to restart The Bat to see the folder. Have you tried the IMAP folder management dialog, it should find the new folder. Hmmm... I created the folder with the folder management :) 2. Existing folders using umlauts are shown very funny within the Bat (e.g. PersAPY-nlich instead of Persönlich) This has already been reported, it is a known issue and it will hopefully be addressed. Ok... 3. I cann't create subfolders. Is that not supportet by GMX? Yes, as far as I know, GMX currently does not support folder nesting. Bad :( Without subfolders it will be a little bit confusing... BTW... What is the correct setting to get all messages and than delete it it at the server automatically? I can't help you with that. What you want is like emulating POP3 but via IMAP with multiple folders. Perhaps somebody else can help. I don't have a flatrate, so I often get all messages and answer some time later And IMAP is the only way to filter mails at the server.. (and read them within a mail client ;) ) And I can store them at the harddisk There is a little bit more space than at the server *g* Bye, Oliver Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hi Vishal, If there's any way you could mark specifically which icons you changed, it would be great. I can list them... If the gylphs file is considered a grid, with numbers along the horizontal and letters along the vertical: A1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 B C D . . I changed A1, A2, A3, F3, F5, F10, F11, F12 -- Regards, Mike Using TheBat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No-show messages
Is anyone else seeing this surprising feature in v.2? I have about half a dozen accounts that TB checks. Messages are sorted into about 100 folders. All of that works properly, except that for ONE account, the list of accounts doesn't change to indicate new mail is present. This happens on both the home and office machines. It's a different account in each case, but both of the accounts are about 3/4ths of the way down the list. The account in question never lights up until I select the inbox. Most of the accounts have a specific sound attached, so I know where to look even if the account doesn't light up. IOW, it's not a killer, just a minor annoyance. It would be easy enough to move the account up or down to see if it's somehow a positional thing -- or even to delete the account and recreate it. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 8:48 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: By the time rules are is needed, it's already too late. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder moving
Hello o, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:30:32 AM, you wrote: ovgd Hi! ovgd A found a little problem: ovgd I have 7 POP Acounts and 1 IMAP (just created) ovgd I can move the POP accounts by pressing Shift+CTRL+Cursor, but I cann't move ovgd the IMAP account... ovgd If I select the account above the IMAP account and move it down, I can ovgd change the order without problem This bug is already reported to BT and wait to be fixed in future. -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in private mailing. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Polish The Bat! mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBUDL mailing list. Using The Bat! v2.00, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is this possible with v2.0's templates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bat! people, With the current almost script like macros of TB!, would it be possible to somehow extract the fingerprint from a pgp key in a message to later be able to send it to the person with the key in order to confirm that the finger print is the same? - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.0 Beta/1, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/VeV2ODlJeoMTOQsRAkZmAKCmNv0lvoqzlzYkGhGMhm24uDsNSwCcDtFW zcLKssuSbGfF3m+1yQLnPBw= =1r7o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hi Richard, Oops, meant message list. sorry. Sure. I put that up as: http://harlos.net/glyphs_YellowMessageListIcons.bmp Of course, the name has to be changed to glyphs.bmp, and the usual warning about being sure to rename old files rather than overwrite them with these ones applies:-) Using the grid analogy in a previous message in this thread, the icons changed in this one in addition to the first changes that I made are G1 and G13 For those wanting to try changing the glyphs, it was straightforward to bring it in to Paint Shop Pro (I'm sure any graphics editor would do), and try different looks. -- Regards, Mike Using TheBat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 3:29:48 AM, MAU wrote: I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? Yes, that's what I've been using. It's slow (or at least, it's slow when you're used to TB) but it does a good job on html mail. I was hoping that with TB v2 I could dump Foxmail, but that's certainly not the case yet. -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:27:47 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to BBTE see all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. Hm...what government? It's a Chinese company iirc...I don't think the Chinese gov't is terribly concerned about personal privacy ;-) BBTE and this BBTE BEWARE!!! Secretly sends your password to malicious hackers! BBTE This program is not what it seems. My technical software analysis BBTE team has debugged the program and found it to be full of holes and BBTE security breaches. It doesn't just install spyware on your system. BBTE It also sends your password to most likely malicious hackers. Then BBTE a few months when you least suspect, your email account is taken BBTE over and un-usable. This program also appears to send your email BBTE to multiple advertising companies, hence making you put up with BBTE more and more ads in your inbox each day. There have been a number BBTE of programs that are silimar to this one, it's only a matter of BBTE time before they can be stopped! Interesting. I've been using Foxmail for a couple of years now. I've not had any problems with security, nobody has hacked my account, none of my email accounts has been taken over, I only get spam on the accounts that already got spam before I used Foxmail, I don't get any more spam on those accounts than I already did. BBTE There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and BBTE warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! H...I just had a look at the negative reviews. There were several which said the same thing, word-for-word, but used different names, which makes me think someone's got an axe to grind G. Then there's the person who says it wouldn't work with Tiny Firewall (it does for me) so he/she had to disable the firewall to send/receive mail (bit of a silly thing to do really...). Then there's the one that says you can't see received html...yes, you can, you just click the html symbol at the top right of the preview pane. Or the one who says he prefers Incredimail. Or the one who complains that when he clicks on an email address on a webpage, it starts Foxmail when he wants to use something else... My personal favourite, though, is the one which says: Plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE. If only my OE would work ROFL! -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
It seems that Deborah W said ... D On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:27:47 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to BBTE see all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. Just to clear things up, I did not write that. I quoted comments from C|Net. I have no opinion one way or the other on the application. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 9:43 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I'm against any law that I wouldn't break if I could get away with it. -A. Whitney Brown. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam plugin download location ?
Hello thebat, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 2:12:12 PM, you wrote: tdc Hi everyone, tdc I'm just wondering where I could find a spam plugin for my newly upgraded tdc TheBat 2.0. tdc Can anyone tell me? Here is TBP Antispam plugin BayesIt 0.4c http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip (112kb) + new holder for attached images (seems to be better for very fresh spam consists primarily from one image). + holder for time delivering (spam letters usually take more time to be delivered, so it is also can be the rule) * some minor bugs in holding of attachments fixed -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in private mailing. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Polish The Bat! mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA mailing list. Known as Prezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBUDL mailing list. Using The Bat! v2.00, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No-show messages
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:55:23 -0400 GMT, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE about 3/4ths of the way down the list. The account in question never BBTE lights up until I select the inbox. I have had this happen on one of my 8 POP accounts. As for positioning it's the second down on my list FWIW.. I think it was one of the first couple I created, and know it was not the last. Didn't realize there was new mail in the inbox until I opened the tree and selected the inbox. -- Pixie TB! v2.00 on Windows 95 (4.0.1212 C) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder moving
On Wednesday, September 03, 2003, Martin Webster wrote... ovgd but I cann't move the IMAP account... Confirmed here. This was a bug mentioned in the early v2 betas, but clearly didn't get fixed :/ -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If anyone has seen a flying tank please contact us. We would like it back - David Webb pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello Bill, Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like this: snipped a bit If Foxmail sold for US$ 100 reviews would say it was too expensive for what it does. As it is FREE... you know what I mean :) There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! I assume you don't use any Microsoft products then, right? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello Deborah, Yes, that's what I've been using. I always thought you were smart :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues
Hello Stan, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:14:21 PM, you wrote: SR Has V2 replaced the cockamamie free caret text editor with a SR competent auto-wrapping text editor? That would be worth upgrading SR for. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Stan. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Bill, BBTE It seems that MAU said ... M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? BBTE Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a BBTE search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like BBTE this: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to see BBTE all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. BBTE [snip] Hmn . . . mywebattack's users seem to have a different opinion. http://www.webattack.com/get/foxmail.shtml I'm not a big fan of C|Net, these days, though . . . so I'm always looking for a second opinion . . . I can't speak from personal experience, regarding foxmail. Not recent experience, anyway, I haven't touched it since . . . 98 or 99 or so. And I don't remember having it installed for more than a day. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/recent%20sketches/the%20source.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam plugin download location ?
Thanks a lot, I'll try this asap :) tdc I'm just wondering where I could find a spam plugin for my newly upgraded tdc TheBat 2.0. tdc Can anyone tell me? Here is TBP Antispam plugin BayesIt 0.4c http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip (112kb) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 2.0: Attachments Pane Popup Keyboard Shortcuts Gone
Greetings to Bat-fellows, as the Subject says, in Version 2.0 you can no longer modify/assign keyboard shortcuts to actions such as Open/Save Attachment(s) etc. The correspondent section in the keyboard shortcuts editor has disappeared. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A amd k6-2 500 mhz processor with 128 mb ram] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
It seems that Allen said ... A Hmn . . . mywebattack's users seem to have a different opinion. A http://www.webattack.com/get/foxmail.shtml A I'm not a big fan of C|Net, these days, though . . . so I'm always A looking for a second opinion . . . Second opinions are often helpful. I'll download it and take a look. The problem with C|Net, I suppose, is that opinions by techno-turnips tend to be given the same weight as those from people who actually know what they're talking about. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 11:06 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this.' Anonymous. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 9:45:05 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE Just to clear things up, I did not write that. I quoted comments BBTE from C|Net. I have no opinion one way or the other on the BBTE application. Oh, I know you were quoting the cnet comments...I just found some of them very amusing (still lol over the plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE one - no, I suppose not, if your aim is get viruses G) -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:47:38 AM (GMT -05:00) RE: Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ? Greetings Alexander, On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 1:08:35 AM, you wrote: Alexander Hello, Batmans. Alexander Please forgive me for my stupidity, but would U explain subject ? We are currently discussing Bruce Wayne and his sidekick. To the Batmobile Robin!. This is a discussion group on The_Bat! e-mail client http:///www.ritlabs.com Anyway ... Sorry moderators. I hate those that subscribe to lists yet have not a clue about the contents. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. All work and no play, will make you a manager. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP1YRerwi09Hs/j+VEQImXQCfbbrD8o5d8v7g50EdtqyG97X2AjgAoP6/ 92ThjeZuxyIkWQhoqP7G9syj =NmOE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sophos Antivirus
Can any point me in the direction of the BAV file for Sophos Antivirus and V2. I searched the archives of the Beta list and found ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/SophosNT.BAV but that refuses an anonymous connection. Thanks Mark -- Mark Adams | Computer Systems Acemake Computers | Network Support Taming Technology | Bespoke Programming Give a small boy a hammer and everything needs pounding. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ?
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 18:06:20, DG Raftery Sr. wrote: Sorry moderators. I hate those that subscribe to lists yet have not a clue about the contents. I think he meant the subject of his post - Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill. -- Clopton's Law Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Name!
Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 5:53:49 AM, Thomas wrote: TF Ritlabs used to have the motto communication with the unseen on TF their website, and bats use sonar rather than eyesight to navigate. TF When communicating by email- you don't see who you are communicating TF with. This motto still shows up alongside The Bat! in the CTRL+ALT+DEL menu on the odd occasion when I launch TB! and because of low system resources TB! fails to load. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 2.0: Attachments Pane Popup Keyboard Shortcuts Gone
Hello Avenarius, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 17:00:37 +0200 GMT (03/09/2003, 22:00 +0700 GMT), Avenarius wrote: as the Subject says, in Version 2.0 you can no longer modify/assign keyboard shortcuts to actions such as Open/Save Attachment(s) etc. The correspondent section in the keyboard shortcuts editor has disappeared. It's still here, under View (for some reason) / Edit shortcuts. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Wednesday, September 03, 2003, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote... [..] techno-turnips [..] hahaha... I love that term. Very nice ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) My mind is not for rent / To any god or government pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 2.0: Attachments Pane Popup Keyboard Shortcuts Gone
A Bat-fellow, Thomas Fernandez, wrote on Wednesday, 3rd September 2003 at 23:39:57 (GMT +0700), which was 18:39 in Bratislava -- as the Subject says, in Version 2.0 you can no longer modify/assign keyboard shortcuts to actions such as Open/Save Attachment(s) etc. The correspondent section in the keyboard shortcuts editor has disappeared. It's still here, under View (for some reason) / Edit shortcuts. I don't mean the keyboard shortcuts editor itself, but a section in it that used to be called, in 1.6x, something like Attachments Pane PopUp, and there you could modify shortcuts for actions such as Open This Attachment, Save All Attachments etc. This is what my keyboard shortcuts editor looks like in Version 2.0's main window: http://avenarius.sk/misc/keyboard_shortcuts.gif If you can help me where, in this editor, to find the option, for example, to switch the shortcuts for Open and Save attachments (I'd like to have ENTER and CTRL+ENTER the other way round for the two actions -- it was possible to switch them in 1.6x), I'd be grateful. And you're right, the location of that editor under View menu is illogical. It should perhaps be located in the recently introduced centralized Preferences dialog, even though The Bat! is devious in that the same keyboard shortcut performs a different action depending on where you currently are (writing a message, reading a message, performing a search, or simply in the main window). That is another *wonderful* aspect of TB. Still, all of these variables could be brought together in the centralized Preferences window. I mean, since the Preferences window features two sets of preferences for two various TB editors, why couldn't the same window feature four or five sets of preferences for keyboard shortcuts for each of TB's working environments? The four or five environments could be hidden under a common heading such as Keyboard Shortcuts Remapping and could be unpacked using the customary + sign/key so that they wouldn't clutter the Preferences window. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A amd k6-2 500 mhz processor with 128 mb ram] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: different reply quotes for different people
Hello Vishal, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 02:46:02 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 13:46 +0700 GMT), Vishal wrote: TF I have a weird feeling [...]or I'm experiencing a deja-vu. Maybe you did. I posted some messages twice on TBUDL because my posts haven't been showing up on the list for some reason. I seem to get everyone else's except my own, but it's erratic. Sorry if you had to expend extra effort! For some reason I never got your first reply either. You owe me a beer. TF Check out the %QuoteStyle=expression macro in the help file. I am TF using %QuoteStyle=Mutti for messages to my mother. Awesome! It worked. Thanks a lot! You owe me a *big* beer. ;-) I'll keep a list of people who owe me beers, just like MAU. Did you know that the Thai word mau (pronounced mao) translates into drunk (adj.), as in: I am drunk? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 8. The number one cause of computer problems is computer solutions. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello Deborah, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:36:15 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 20:36 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: My personal favourite, though, is the one which says: Plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE. If only my OE would work LOL! I love this. ducking from incoming trout -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sign in a shop: Open 24 hours a day, longer on weekends. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat 2: a first glance ... and ... a disapointment
03-Sep-2003 11:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should pay something for this? why? The only thing that really annoys me is that update policy with its two months restriction. I registered the program when the version# was 1.62i in the beginning of 2003. People using TB for years are paying the same update price like those who bought it only months ago. And in three months, when TB2 may have features that I find useful (which the update does not right now, at least for me) and want to update, I'll have to pay the full price, or how will that be handled? I haven't seen anything like that before, and I'm surprised most people seem to simply accept that. I understand perfectly well that it is time for the developers to get money for their efforts from those users who have been getting many many free updates, but I wished the update prices would've been more version#, hence age dependant. Not that I couldn't afford it, it just doesn't feel right. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and delete/trash
I'm experiencing some show-stopping problems using IMAP with TB 2.0. I know others have reported problems but are they wide spread or is there a peculiarity on individual machines making IMAP a real pain? 1. TB will not delete messages from their folder or from the server. Pressing delete does nothing. Changing advanced options|mail management to mark as delete does no such thing. It removes the message from the message list on hitting delete but the message does not appear in Trash or on the server as deleted - or marked for deletion. 2. I can't configure a trash folder anyway. The account log tells me the folder Inbox.Trash doesn't exist. Where are deleted messages supposed to end up - assuming they are deletable in the first place? -- regards Clive Taylor Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: different reply quotes for different people
Hello Thomas, I'll keep a list of people who owe me beers, just like MAU. It's not worth it, they never pay ;-) Did you know that the Thai word mau (pronounced mao) translates into drunk (adj.), as in: I am drunk? Nice :) And the Spanish beer I like best is Mahou and is pronounced mau. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and delete/trash
Hi Clive, On 9/3/03 at 1:07 PM, Clive Taylor wrote: CT 1. TB will not delete messages from their folder or from the CT server. Pressing delete does nothing. Changing advanced CT options|mail management to mark as delete does no such thing. CT It removes the message from the message list on hitting delete CT but the message does not appear in Trash or on the server as CT deleted - or marked for deletion. I'm not able to delete messages or folders either. To make matters worse, half the time I try (especially when deleting a large number of messages) my machine freezes and I have to re-boot with CTRL-ALT-DEL. Needless to say, I'm done testing the new IMAP features until I hear this has been fixed. -- Sean H. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: The Bat! Spam page
On Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 1:13 PM, La Poste wrote: I found that google still had it in memory. The link is: http://www.google.fr/search?q=cache:TThpN1rr1AAJ:www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html+the+bat!+ritlabs+spam+toolhl=frie=UTF-8 Hope it will work for you. Otherwise, try searching The Bat! and The Spammer under google, and look at cached page. Thanks so much. I sent that on and the ISP fixed the problem. I wish they were all that easy. :) -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:10:51 PM, you wrote: The glyphs.bmp file goes in the home program directory of TB!; make sure to rename the old one (if there is one) rather than overwriting it... you might not like these :-) Here's the file: http://harlos.net/glyphs.bmp Michael, I loaded your glyphs file into Paint to take a peek, and I *really* like them, and want to use them. But because of your warning, I'm concerned with overwriting the existing glyph's file, and there *must* be one somewhere, right? Even if I can't find it. I ran a search for a file name of glyphs.bmp, and it could only find *your* file, which I had downloaded to a temp folder. I scoured the TB's home directory (the one that contains thebat.exe file), and found no file even remotely resembling it. So, all I need to do is copy your file to *that* directory, right? I.e., TB's home directory. How does TB know to use your file for glyphs and not the default file (wherever it may or may not be hiding)? Thanks! -- Best regards, Jack Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
On Wednesday, September 03, 2003, Jack Morrison wrote... So, all I need to do is copy your file to *that* directory, right? I.e., TB's home directory. Yep. :) How does TB know to use your file for glyphs and not the default file (wherever it may or may not be hiding)? There isn't a default file. It's hard coded into an internal resource. If TB detects a glyphs.bmp on startup, and imports the bitmap into the resource, and uses them instead. The defaults are safe, all you have to do to restore them is remove the glyphs.bmp. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Limit Congress to 2 terms: one in office, one in jail! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hi Jack, on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 14:43:55 -0500GMT (03.09.03, 21:43 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JM Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:10:51 PM, you wrote: The glyphs.bmp file goes in the home program directory of TB!; make sure to rename the old one (if there is one) rather than overwriting it... you might not like these :-) JM Michael, I loaded your glyphs file into Paint to take a peek, and I JM *really* like them, and want to use them. JM But because of your warning, I'm concerned with overwriting the JM existing glyph's file, and there *must* be one somewhere, right? Even JM if I can't find it. If you don't find it, there is none. TB! takes the glyphs hard coded in thebat.exe if no glyphs.bmp exists. JM So, all I need to do is copy your file to *that* directory, right? JM I.e., TB's home directory. Exactly. Just make sure its name is glyphs.bmp. JM How does TB know to use your file for glyphs and not the default file JM (wherever it may or may not be hiding)? See above. :-) -- Cheers Peter A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. Winamp currently playing: Glen Campbell - Gentle On My Mind Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP-MIME signatures (was:Re[3]: message.att file attachment withThe Bat! v2.0 issue)
I'm clueless as to how I enable PGP-MIME signatures. Googling didn't help nor could I find in the TBUDL archives. Is it possible with GnuGP? Paul pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat 2: a first glance ... and ... a disapointment
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 1:53:58 PM, Alexander wrote: A I understand perfectly well that it is time for the developers to get A money for their efforts from those users who have been getting many A many free updates, but I wished the update prices would've been more A version#, hence age dependant. Being dependent on version number wouldn't have made them age-dependent - lots of people who've been using TB for a long time have been updating would be running the same version as those who started using it six weeks ago. A Not that I couldn't afford it, it just doesn't feel right. Be glad you can afford it. I'm annoyed about the two-month limitation too, but it's because I can't affort to update right now will probably end up paying full-price by the time I can afford it again. -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 2:53:07 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, September 03, 2003, Jack Morrison wrote... So, all I need to do is copy your file to *that* directory, right? I.e., TB's home directory. Yep. :) Bingo! It worked! I'm a geek! :) How does TB know to use your file for glyphs and not the default file (wherever it may or may not be hiding)? There isn't a default file. It's hard coded into an internal resource. If TB detects a glyphs.bmp on startup, and imports the bitmap into the resource, and uses them instead. The defaults are safe, all you have to do to restore them is remove the glyphs.bmp. Thanks for the great explanation, Jonathan and Peter! And thanks to you, too, Michael, for the new glyphs! Now, do you think you can do anything about TB's flash screen? ;) -- Best regards, Jack Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam plugin download location ?
Hello thebat, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 8:58:28 AM, you wrote: tdc Thanks a lot, I'll try this asap :) tdc I'm just wondering where I could find a spam plugin for my tdc newly upgraded TheBat 2.0. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out thebat. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hello Jack, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 4:11:33 PM, you wrote: JM Now, do you think you can do anything about TB's flash screen? ;) Try changing the shortcut to: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo -- Jeffrey A. Shumway Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 on three IMAP and two POP accounts Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-MIME signatures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:04:43 +0100GMT (03.09.03, 22:04 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PH I'm clueless as to how I enable PGP-MIME signatures. Googling didn't help nor PH could I find in the TBUDL archives. Is it possible with GnuGP? In TB! 2.0 you'll PGP/MIME sign by checking Sign on sending. However, I wouldn't advise it for this list, because AFAIK it doesn't accept attachments, but that's how the MIME sig is submitted. It seems to work with GnuPG too. - -- Cheers Peter It is bad luck to be superstitious. Winamp currently playing: Aphrodite's Child - Rain and tears ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows 98) Comment: *Use OpenPGP for privacy and authentication!* iD8DBQE/Vk0aAzZSBuEHdM4RAlU/AJ9IgSGSw1iB5OC5GTgbdZEhOkrXrwCfbXtL ywKm0A74gAvzPyjoRZaKBVU= =mij7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 21:43:55, Jack Morrison wrote: But because of your warning, I'm concerned with overwriting the existing glyph's file, and there *must* be one somewhere, right? Wrong. If there isn't any glyphs.bmp file, TB will use glyphs stored in it's executable. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ The probability of arriving at the job site without a needed tool or with the wrong hardware are directly proportional with the square of the travel distance. -- Repairman's Laws Corollary - You will always have what you need when the job is next to your shop. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 3:18:43 PM, you wrote: Hello Jack, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 4:11:33 PM, you wrote: JM Now, do you think you can do anything about TB's flash screen? ;) Try changing the shortcut to: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo Doggoneit! Double bingo! I really am a geek now! Thanks, Jeffrey! I'm on a run today. -- Best regards, Jack Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: different reply quotes for different people
MAU- Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 11:19:58 AM, you wrote: M It's not worth it, they never pay ;-) Nonsense. Here's that beer I owe you. There. Now we're squared away, so I don't owe you a beer anymore. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 2:57:56 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 21:43:55, Jack Morrison wrote: But because of your warning, I'm concerned with overwriting the existing glyph's file, and there *must* be one somewhere, right? Wrong. If there isn't any glyphs.bmp file, TB will use glyphs stored in it's executable. Thanks, Jernej, I got it now. But your post forces me to ask another question (hey, when you're on a run, you take advantage of it, right?). How come your post's headers are arriving in a different font/character set, or at least they seem to be. And they're smaller, lighter than any others. Are you somehow overriding some kind of default that I've set up? Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks! -- Best regards, Jack Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP-MIME signatures
Hello Peter, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 9:22:01 PM, you wrote: PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- PM Hash: SHA1 PM Hi Paul, PM on Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:04:43 +0100GMT (03.09.03, 22:04 +0200GMT here), PM you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PH I'm clueless as to how I enable PGP-MIME signatures. Googling didn't help nor PH could I find in the TBUDL archives. Is it possible with GnuGP? PM In TB! 2.0 you'll PGP/MIME sign by checking Sign on sending. You mean Account-Properties-Options? That seems to continue inline signing here. -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
On Thursday, 4 September 2003, at 1:19:31 a.m., Michael Harlos wrote: For those wanting to try changing the glyphs, it was straightforward to bring it in to Paint Shop Pro (I'm sure any graphics editor would do), and try different looks. Understand that, but how did you get the originals out of TB! in the first place? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-MIME signatures (was:Re[3]: message.att file attachmentwith The Bat! v2.0 issue)
Hello Paul, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 2:04:43 PM, you wrote: PH I'm clueless as to how I enable PGP-MIME signatures. Googling PH didn't help nor could I find in the TBUDL archives. Is it possible PH with GnuGP? I do this in each of my moderated replies in the QT. %USEPGP%PGPMIME%SIGNCOMPLETE That puts the PGP-MIME signature on them. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 22:46:33, Jack Morrison wrote: How come your post's headers are arriving in a different font/character set, or at least they seem to be. And they're smaller, lighter than any others. My messages come in either iso-8859-2 or windows-1250 character set, as iso-8859-1 and windows-1252 don't contain the character used in my last name - probably your default font doesn't have this character, so The Bat selects another, which has it. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ The more heavily a man is supposed to be taxed, the more power he has to escape being taxed. -- Diogenes's First Dictum Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to register -- page not found?
Hi all, I installed TB 2.0 l/ast night and so far, like what I see. I only recently purchased TB and was wondering if there was any sort of upgrade path. Rather than bother everyone on the list, I went under help/how to register. I got a this page can not be displayed. I then tried pulling up the FAQ, again under help, but with the same result. I have to look up my original registration info as I'm not exactly sure when I purchased TB, but once I find it, how can I figure out if an upgrade path exists? Any help greatly appreciated, Steve Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hi Allister, Understand that, but how did you get the originals out of TB! in the first place? Someone posted a link to the glyphs.bmp file during the flurry of emails that occurred just after the release of 2.0. I can't actually remember the specific message... there were quite a few. I downloaded the file from that link. -- Regards, Mike Using TheBat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to register -- page not found?
Bonjour Steve, http://www.ritlabs.com/bitrix/redirect.php?event1=Go_outevent2=cheng_countryevent3=buegoto=/en/buy.php try this one, It works for me Le mercredi 3 septembre 2003 à 23:46:47, vous écriviez : SMS Hi all, SMS I installed TB 2.0 l/ast night and so far, like what I see. SMS I only recently purchased TB and was wondering if there was any SMS sort of upgrade path. Rather than bother everyone on the list, I SMS went under help/how to register. I got a this page can not be SMS displayed. I then tried pulling up the FAQ, again under help, SMS but with the same result. SMS I have to look up my original registration info as I'm not SMS exactly sure when I purchased TB, but once I find it, how can I SMS figure out if an upgrade path exists? SMS Any help greatly appreciated, SMS Steve SMS SMS Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: SMS http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Cordialement, ArchYmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Received Date - Weird!
Evening Bat Users,
Have like many moved up to Version 2.0 but have noticed strange
received date {wasn't there in 1.63}... 'Created date' shows 31
Aug2003 'Received Date'shows 31 Aug2037 11.12.
Anyone else spotted this stramge behaviour? How can I {at least with
this particular example} have received it at a time earlier than it
was created although 34 years into the future!!
Any obvious cure?
Regards
- Charles -
Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-MIME signatures
Hi Peter, @3-Sep-2003, 22:22 +0200 (21:22 UK time) Peter Meyns [PM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul: PM However, I wouldn't advise it for this list, because AFAIK it PM doesn't accept attachments, ... We do allow MIME signatures here now, since this is an official support list and we are supporting v2. Besides, they're a lot tidier than non-MIME signatures. Oh yes, and you can set PGP-Mime options manually in the Privacy menu of the editor. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Hello Michael, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure. I put that up as: http://harlos.net/glyphs_YellowMessageListIcons.bmp Of course, the name has to be changed to glyphs.bmp, and the usual warning about being sure to rename old files rather than overwrite them with these ones applies:-) Had a go at doing it myself Before I read your message and came up with the same envelope colours as you. Your glyphs are easy to redo because they can be done in situ whereas other glyph files need individual copying and pasting to change them. Great fun to play around with though and get, eventually, exactly what you want! Thanks for starting me off but I'm going to waste a fair amount of time on them :-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top Posting (was: How to register -- page not found?)
Archy, [A] wrote: A try this one, It works for me moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ArchY. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thanks very much for reading. :) /moderator -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received Date - Weird!
Bareges, [B] wrote:
B Anyone else spotted this stramge behaviour? How can I {at least with
B this particular example} have received it at a time earlier than it
B was created although 34 years into the future!!
B Any obvious cure?
Have you checked your system date and time? The received times are
usually generated through your system time. Received time is when TB!
downloaded/imported the messages.
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Re[2]: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 4:04:09 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 22:46:33, Jack Morrison wrote: How come your post's headers are arriving in a different font/character set, or at least they seem to be. And they're smaller, lighter than any others. My messages come in either iso-8859-2 or windows-1250 character set, as iso-8859-1 and windows-1252 don't contain the character used in my last name - probably your default font doesn't have this character, so The Bat selects another, which has it. Thanks for the explanation, Jernej! It would have taken me, say, 10-12 years to figure that one out myself. -- Best regards, Jack Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
