Re: Problems with The Bat
Hallo Scott, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:43:14 +1030GMT (30-1-04, 6:13 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SS Nope, My setting is set to Automatically. In that case it's possible that it has been moved from the visible screen. Close TB Start Regedit Search for the following keys in your registry: HKey_Current_User\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Left RAS Top Set both of them to zero, that will place your CC in the left upper corner of your screen. Exit Regedit Start TB And enjoy your CC -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 11:29:35 PM, you wrote: Dear Marten, [snip] You are missing something in TB :-). I just did the above 'snips' with Alt-X (my preferred keystroke for the job). The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` Brilliant! ...so far... Can you see above? I defined QT as you said - with two CR after the ] but when this is inserted the traling CRs are ignored. I even did: CR SPACE CR but the trailing CR SPACE CR is ignored. But maybe that's the best we can do? Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Compress on exit
Hi , Folder Properties Options Compress on exit Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, without leaving TB? With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? -- Best regards Papy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2004, 17:40:55]: Hello fellow Bat-ers, Really nobody who can help me here? Thanks, Oliver -- PGP welcome. Click [ http://www.oliverwolfram.de/pgp.txt ] for my public key. Fingerprint: 0294 8249 8EE6 D4C0 DFB2 F3A2 ED5F AD45 C90B 6C05 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Henkdebruijn, @30-Jan-2004, 06:52 +0100 (30-Jan 05:52 UK time) Henk de Bruijn [H] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: H snipped H Sorry for stepping in. H I am pretty new to the Bat. It is not clear to me what has to be H in the Quick Template. Well, in my case I have a much simpler template containing only '...snip' - no CRs ... I do them by hand to shape the text as I wish. The quick template I use is simply this: ,--/ Snipper \-- ... snip `--\ End /-- H Sounds great, to select text and replace it with snipped, just H by using a keycombination. While in the Message editor, I press Alt-F12 to bring up the Shortcuts editor and navigate to Main menu .. Utilities ... Insert quick template ... Snipper and press Ctrl-Alt-X. Now I have a Ctrl-Alt-X key to replace the currently selected text with '...snip' in the message editor. You can assign a hotkey to any Quick template using this technique. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
Hello Oliver, Really nobody who can help me here? Looks like it. I have no experience with SMTP-S myself, sorry. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Marten, @30-Jan-2004, 09:39 Marten Gallagher [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` MG Brilliant! ...so far... :-) MG Can you see above? I defined QT as you said - with two CR after ... snip MG but the trailing CR SPACE CR is ignored. MG But maybe that's the best we can do? It is. %CURSOR should have helped here as a marker for where you want the cursor put after the macro has run, but it doesn't. I shall have to report a bug in that procedure. As I said to Daniel, you will have to adopt a slightly different habit of adding the CRs yourself. Or read up on products like PowerPro to add custom hotkeys to your application, but that's not a topic for this forum. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
Dear Oliver, @30-Jan-2004, 11:28 +0100 (30-Jan 10:28 UK time) Oliver Wolfram [OW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Oliver: Hello fellow Bat-ers, OW Really nobody who can help me here? Apparently not. It sounds like a bug to me. Or strict adherence to RFC in the face a server that doesn't. OE cuts a lot of corners and ignores a lot of quirks that it perhaps should not. I recommend joining TBBETA and discussing the issues there so that RITlabs can get involved. Put something into the BugTraq system about it. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
Hello Marck, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Freitag, 30. Januar 2004, 12:30:44]: I recommend joining TBBETA and discussing the issues there so that RITlabs can get involved. Put something into the BugTraq system about it. Posted a message to TBBETA. Thanks for your feedback. Cheers, Oliver -- PGP welcome. Click [ http://www.oliverwolfram.de/pgp.txt ] for my public key. Fingerprint: 0294 8249 8EE6 D4C0 DFB2 F3A2 ED5F AD45 C90B 6C05 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 11:27:56 AM, you wrote: Thanks everyone for your help - CTRL-X and manual CRs it is then. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SMTP-S issue
Oliver Wolfram wrote: Hello fellow Bat-ers, OW Really nobody who can help me here? Though I use SMTPS, I can't help since I use TB! and SecureBat! without problems during server negotiations. I don't have to use Stunnel. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.03.47 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:27:56 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote: [snip] MDP It is. %CURSOR should have helped here as a marker for where you MDP want the cursor put after the macro has run, but it doesn't. I MDP shall have to report a bug in that procedure. That would be great. Will you do this? [on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 05:08:39 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote:] MDP An alternative is to put a single quote or something as an end point MDP and hit a backspace after it. Like this? MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP ' ^ ;) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compress on exit
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:28:53 +0100 Jean Site wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? It will compress on exit, not on changing focus. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Marten, @30-Jan-2004, 12:56 Marten Gallagher [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MG On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 11:27:56 AM, you wrote: MG Thanks everyone for your help - CTRL-X and manual CRs it is then. You might prefer Alt-X since Ctrl-X is used for 'Cut to clipboard'. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Daniel, @30-Jan-2004, 13:47 +0100 (30-Jan 12:47 UK time) dAniel hAhler [DH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP An alternative is to put a single quote or something as an end point MDP and hit a backspace after it. DH Like this? MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP ' DH ^ ;) LOL - not quite. That's there for GPG non-MIME signatures. The TB plug in strips trailing blank lines before signing. I must update my templates to make it conditional on non-MIME PGP signing being active. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Checking on BayesIt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is possible to see what score a message gets from bayesit? I wanted to check on how well it's learning. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com What is a free gift? Aren't all gifts free? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQBph89ttnLhkydF1EQITsQCg/ydYNFF0grSEn7L3hk9chbZwtsMAn0nx YO67rq8vba0mLvmhxRR5faLe =fRt4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: From column format
Hello tb, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:37:40 -0600 GMT (29/01/2004, 04:37 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At one point, I seem to recall having changed the From column in the message list listview so that it did not display anything but [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think that's possible in TB. How do I do this, or is my memory mistaking another client? Either you are confused or I am. ;-) Try alt-clicking on the thing you want to filter by, type ESC to return to normal -- Andy Philpotts Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Checking on BayesIt
Hello shemming, Friday, January 30, 2004, 7:53:44 AM, you wrote: sec It is possible to see what score a message gets from bayesit? I sec wanted to check on how well it's learning. Yes. There is a file called bayesit.log in your documents and settings folder, name, application data, bayesit (in Windows 2000). It has info like the following: 29.11.2003 13:26:4 --- New session log 29.11.2003 13:26:4 beginning loading of training information. 29.11.2003 13:26:10 training information sucessfully read. 29.11.2003 13:26:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 100 : --- H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.99 H veloxzone: 0.99 H status: 0.99 Pharm: 0.99 H +0600: 0.99 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.99 H wpcusrgrp: 0.99 H Valium: 0.99 H Buy: 0.99 H Way: 0.99 Savings: 0.99 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.99 VALIUM: 0.99 H alien: 0.99 H br: 0.99 I'm not sure what a lot of the top info means, but the Value for the Bat is the thing that tells you if it is spam or not. I wishsomeone would exlain the rest of it. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Was: MyDoom and The Bat Now: download slowdown
Hello sacksa, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:56:55 -0600 GMT (30/01/2004, 02:56 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Peter. I have never compressed the message base. I never thought about it. (Here at the office, compression is done autormatically every night with Lotus Notes.) There is compression and then there is compression. The TB terminology is not what is usually understood by compression. It is rather a zapping: when messages are deleted in TB, there are not deleted from the database. They are only marked as deleted and not shown in your message list. this is tru for the Inbox too, if you use filters. All messages get downloaded into the Inbox first, then copied into the destiantion folder and marked as deleted in the Inbox, so you won't see them any more. Every ouple of days I go to Folder / Maintenance Center, click Kill Dupes, Purge and Compress. This will makr duplicates as deleted, mark messages older than your settings in the folder properties as deleted, and then go about and actually take them off the message base. I always save a couple fo MB on my harddisk. This doesn't prevent fragmentation, you still have to defrag on OS level (which I do once a month, max). What your Lotus does every night has nothing to do with this (well I don't know whether it defrags but wouldn't think so). However, does defragmentation accomplish the same thing? Even if compression is a good thing to do on a regular basis (and how would I schedule that?), You cannot schedule TB's compression style, but you can instruct TB to do it on exit, as has been mentioned. I don't do that, because it takes several minutes im my case (many large attachments, stored in message base), and sometimes I want to leave the office quickly! ;-) would that really solve the occasional slowdown problem given that a cold reboot doesn't compress messages, but it did solve my problem. At least for a while. Glad you are fine for now. Keep compressing the TB folders, either manually or on exit. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you have questions that are too specific, try to be more general. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03.47 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: download slowdown
Hello ken, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:04:44 -0600 GMT (30/01/2004, 06:04 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: I hope you find a solution to your problem. But I'm curious, why are Avi's posts breaking out of the thread? Is this just me? Every time he posts - even though it's a reply to a specific message in a thread, it seems to start a *new* thread. He is posting with Lotus Notes. There are no reference headers on which TB would recognise the thread. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Man kann niemanden ueberholen, wenn man in seine Fussstapfen tritt. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03.47 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Checking on BayesIt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SC Yes. There is a file called bayesit.log in your documents and settings SC folder, name, application data, bayesit (in Windows 2000). It has info SC like the following: Found it. TVM. Hmmm. It's very black and white; the only scores are 0, 99 and 100. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQBppudttnLhkydF1EQLrQQCgkaM2ezYkGP1Zr7lPPIE7cw1Xxa8AoK1b HrPqIIVCRs88eS5n/IRTOc4e =kBjQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyDoom and The Bat
Hi Bill, On Thursday, January 29, 2004, you wrote: BBTE Follow this easy-to-use rule: If you receive a message with an BBTE attachment, do not open it unless it is from someone you know BBTE ***AND*** you are EXPECTING it. BBTE If you need something more complex, consider the following additions. May I have permission to use this list of rules in communicating with a mailing list I run? I've iterated all those points on other occasions, but like the concise way you put it. -- Brigitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you tell the boss you were late for work because you had a flat tire, the next morning you will have a flat tire.-- Cannon's Comment Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with The Bat
Hello Scott, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:38:54 +1030 GMT (30/01/2004, 06:08 +0700 GMT), Scott Sims wrote: Have a look at this screengrab: http://www.freewebs.com/aceblue/connection.jpg The screenshot shows that you browser is the active window, not TB. The connection center should show when you click on the tab. I have set it so that it shows automatically. It will pop in front when I manually check mail (and TB is the active window), but not when TB checks automatically - then I get only the tab. This behaviour is exactly the way I want it. What happens is the connection centre box won't open on my computer. When it is loading email and in on the task bar, clicking it doesn't make it show up. Well. It shows upon clicking here under Win98 (home) and XP Pro (office). No idea what may be causing your problem. Except that my task list is at the bottom... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Honk if you never seen an Uzi fired from a car window Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03.47 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyDoom and The Bat
Hello Brigitte, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:46:34 -0500 GMT (30/01/2004, 21:46 +0700 GMT), Brigitte Conrad-Avarmaa wrote: May I have permission to use this list of rules in communicating with a mailing list I run? I've iterated all those points on other occasions, but like the concise way you put it. I agree that list boils it down very neatly and easy to understand. I've been trying to get the same message across for years... now I would just like to cp Bill Blinn's rules as well. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 3. Diverts attention from the fact that you also came to work drunk. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03.47 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: MyDoom and The Bat
At 9:46 AM on 1/30/2004, Brigitte Conrad-Avarmaa typed ... B May I have permission to use this list of rules in communicating B with a mailing list I run? I've iterated all those points on other B occasions, but like the concise way you put it. Sure. You may want to rewrite the main rule a bit. The antecedent of it is a little murky. I'd change it to -- Follow this easy-to-use rule: If you receive a message with an attachment, do not open the attachment unless it is from someone you know ***AND*** you are EXPECTING it. You may also point them to: http://www.610tech.net/20040201.shtml#rule -- Bill Blinn, Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 1/30/2004 at 9:51 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words. This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Compress on exit
Hello dAniel, Friday, January 30, 2004, 1:48:16 PM, you wrote: dh Hello bats, dh on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:28:53 +0100 Jean Site wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? dh It will compress on exit, not on changing focus. Thanks shinE Does it compress all the folders ? -- Best regards, Papymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SMTP-S issue
Hi Oliver, On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 10:28 AM, Oliver wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2004, 17:40:55]: Hello fellow Bat-ers, Really nobody who can help me here? I use SMTPS extensively with The Bat! and without problems - about 15 accounts and 3 different mail servers (running Sendmail or Exim). You didn't say anything about the software on the mail servers, so it would be a little difficult to try to diagnose the problem. Have you tried connecting to SMTPS via telnet and sending a message that way? You may get more information that could point to a problem. As to the authentication error, IIRC from previous discussions on this list, TB! will automatically attempt to login using the most secure method and if that doesn't work will then drop down to another form of authentication unless the Require secure (MD5) authentication is checked. This is taken from the TB! help file: Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take place. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello Marck, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:23:31 +GMT (30-1-2004, 12:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ...snip MDP Well, in my case I have a much simpler template containing only MDP '...snip' - no CRs ... I do them by hand to shape the text as I MDP wish. MDP The quick template I use is simply this: MDP ,--/ Snipper \-- MDP ... snip MDP `--\ End /-- ...snip MDP While in the Message editor, I press Alt-F12 to bring up the MDP Shortcuts editor and navigate to Main menu .. Utilities ... Insert MDP quick template ... Snipper and press Ctrl-Alt-X. MDP Now I have a Ctrl-Alt-X key to replace the currently selected text MDP with '...snip' in the message editor. ...snip Thanks a lot, it is working like a charm! -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something obvious? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I can keep a secret, it's the people I tell who can't. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello Jonathan, Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something obvious? It is not so obvious. Open the editor and then Alt+F12 and then look for Utilities /Insert quick template :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
On Friday, January 30, 2004, Terry wrote... Really nobody who can help me here? [..] Have you tried connecting to SMTPS via telnet and sending a message that way? You may get more information that could point to a problem. The whole point of smtps is so that text isn't sent in plain clear text over the internet, you won't be able to use telnet to connect directly to the server, you'd have to introduce something into the loop... stunnel... which he already says using works fine. Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take place. Hrm... I think there may be a little confusion here... smtps is connecting to an SMTP server using TLS/SSL... the above is used when that method isn't used as there is no point encrypting a password in an already encrypted mechanism. Though there is nothing really stopping you from doing it though I guess. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On the other hand, you have different fingers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcut
Hi Miguel, On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 11:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have forgotten how to configure a keyboard shortcut-- could someone please help with this? I would like if possible to combine the ALT + L command (which I use a lot) into one stroke. M Try Alt+F12 Thanks for the info. I had some trouble figuring out how to do it, but Dan Perez said on another topic to access the Shortcuts Editor while in a message editor. There under Utilities I found the format options and was able to change the shortcut to one keystroke instead of two. Seems a small thing but is very convenient for me. :-) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SMTP-S issue
Hi Jonathan, On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 5:19 PM, Jonathan wrote: snipped Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take place. Hrm... I think there may be a little confusion here... smtps is connecting to an SMTP server using TLS/SSL... the above is used when that method isn't used as there is no point encrypting a password in an already encrypted mechanism. Though there is nothing really stopping you from doing it though I guess. Oliver mentioned two things - the problem with SMTPS and that he was receiving an authentication error. He sent a second e-mail to his original post talking about the authentication. In his original e-mail, the log showed an attempt to authenticate using CRAM/MD5 failing and then a plain text authentication which was successful (I think - I've deleted that post). I answered only one of the e-mails but included both issues. Sorry for causing any confusion. Or maybe I'm confused about the whole thing. Wouldn't be the first time! :) -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Applying filter across all accounts
Hi I can apply a Quick Template across all accounts. But I don't seem to be able to apply a filter across all accounts. Do I really have to copy and paste into 32 email accounts? Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Applying filter across all accounts
Hello Admin, on Friday, 30. January 2004, at 18:22:00 [GMT +] you wrote: I can apply a Quick Template across all accounts. Do I really have to copy and paste into 32 email accounts? sorry to tell that, but you have to do so. There is a program called Filter-Manager. With that you can do it by Drag and Drop. http://tirna.narod.ru/soft/tbfc.htm -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.03.47 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287 HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Friday, January 30, 2004, MAU wrote... Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something obvious? It is not so obvious. Open the editor and then Alt+F12 and then look for Utilities /Insert quick template :) I realized I should have read the rest of the thread, as it appeared everybody else had issues finding it too ;) Thanks. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Applying filter across all accounts
Hello Admin, Friday, January 30, 2004, 12:22:00 PM, Admin at AK wrote: AaA Do I really have to copy and paste into 32 email accounts? As Thomas has already noted, yes. However if you are going to do more than one, just copy and paste each individual filter to a text editor to accumulate all of them. After you have all the individual filters in the text editor, just copy the entire editor document and paste into sorting office. This will eliminate steps if more than one. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Freitag, 30. Januar 2004, 18:19:12]: The whole point of smtps is so that text isn't sent in plain clear text over the internet, you won't be able to use telnet to connect directly to the server, you'd have to introduce something into the loop... stunnel... which he already says using works fine. I haven't tried with stunnel yet, you're wrong here Jon, mainly because it does work with OE, but maybe it would be helpful just to see exactly what is going on. Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the [...] Hrm... I think there may be a little confusion here... smtps is connecting to an SMTP server using TLS/SSL... the above is used when that method isn't used as there is no point encrypting a password in an already encrypted mechanism. Though there is nothing really stopping you from doing it though I guess. He was referring to my log file posted above and may have a point there. I was getting an error message Authentication failed, which may as well refer to the MD5 thing, which is never happening, because the server doesn't support it. This seems to be a feature in TheBat, trying to achieve maximum security, it'll just go on authenticating plain (actually encrypted) when MD5 is not supported. However, this doesn't explain why the message doesn't get sent according to the log file (but in fact is). Will now try to answer your questions in TBBETA, Jon. :) Thanks for your help, folks! Cheers, Oliver -- PGP welcome. Click [ http://www.oliverwolfram.de/pgp.txt ] for my public key. Fingerprint: 0294 8249 8EE6 D4C0 DFB2 F3A2 ED5F AD45 C90B 6C05 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
On Friday, January 30, 2004, Oliver Wolfram wrote... The whole point of smtps is so that text isn't sent in plain clear text over the internet, you won't be able to use telnet to connect directly to the server, you'd have to introduce something into the loop... stunnel... which he already says using works fine. I haven't tried with stunnel yet, you're wrong here Jon, mainly because it does work with OE, but maybe it would be helpful just to see exactly what is going on. I think I might be getting a little confused here. Are you using SMTPS, or just SMTP Authentication such as CRAM-MD5? From the subject, I assumed SMTPS, but from what I keep reading in some emails, it seems like just authentication. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) La Quinta. Spanish for Next to Denny's. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 13:31:22 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP ' DH ^ ;) MDP That's there for GPG non-MIME signatures. The TB plug in strips MDP trailing blank lines before signing. I must update my templates MDP to make it conditional on non-MIME PGP signing being active. what does this mean? If you sign with GPG it would fail without the ' on the last line? What's non-MIME? has it to do with S-MIME? Thanks for enlightenment.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compress on exit
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 16:10:08 +0100 Jean Site wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? dh It will compress on exit, not on changing focus. JS Thanks shinE I'm not shinE.. you should shine! :) JS Does it compress all the folders ? No, only those which are set to do so. I would recommend to set your Inboxes to be compressed on exit, because all your mail is received there and then either moved or deleted, so they would have to be compressed out from there. AFAIK Inboxes are set compress-on-exit by default. For manual compression (of all or selective folders) choose Folder/Maintenance.. (which would be better put into Tools menu, because it's not binded to current folder - IMHO). -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Applying filter across all accounts
Hello Greg, As Thomas has already noted, yes. However if you are going to do more than one, just copy and paste each individual filter to a text editor to accumulate all of them. After you have all the individual filters in the text editor, just copy the entire editor document and paste into sorting office. This will eliminate steps if more than one. Much easier using Filter Commander. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Checking on BayesIt
Hello Stuart, Friday, January 30, 2004, 9:27:04 AM, you wrote: SH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH Hash: SHA1 SC Yes. There is a file called bayesit.log in your documents and settings SC folder, name, application data, bayesit (in Windows 2000). It has info SC like the following: SH Found it. TVM. SH Hmmm. SH It's very black and white; the only scores are 0, 99 and 100. Sort of. The number you might want to look at is the one just above 'Value for The Bat!:' that is labeled 'Spam-grade:' That is the one that has the actual calculation based on the key words shown below. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Applying filter across all accounts
On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 6:43:21 PM, you wrote: Hello Admin, on Friday, 30. January 2004, at 18:22:00 [GMT +] you wrote: I can apply a Quick Template across all accounts. Do I really have to copy and paste into 32 email accounts? sorry to tell that, but you have to do so. There is a program called Filter-Manager. With that you can do it by Drag and Drop. http://tirna.narod.ru/soft/tbfc.htm OK got that - installed it, but... ...anyone got a Filter Commander Help File in English?! Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Applying filter across all accounts
Hello Marten, on Friday, 30. January 2004, at 19:56:05 [GMT +] you wrote: OK got that - installed it, but... ...anyone got a Filter Commander Help File in English?! there is no such one. But if you switch the program to English, its very simple to use and self explaining. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.03.47 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287 HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Applying filter across all accounts
Greg Strong wrote: just copy and paste each individual filter to a text editor to accumulate all of them. After you have all the individual filters in the text editor, just copy the entire editor document and paste into sorting office. This will eliminate steps if more than one. As MAU pointed out, this seems much easier than Filter Commander. I was surprised how easy this method was - wish I knew about it earlier! I happened to try it when trying to move all my filters from one computer to another. Sure was nice to not have to recreate all those filters manually. Another big plus with having filters text-based: you can easily send filters to other people (as has been done on this list). -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
toolbar
Hello bats, before doing a feature wish on the bugtracker, I'd like to hear some opinions on this: What about a toolbar on the message list window, that gives the ability to apply a Display mode (View/Display) and filter (RegExp) quickly? Also the general toolbar that exists ATM should be configurable - I couldn't find anything to customize it.. I used 40tude Dialog a while ago for newsgroups and it has a great toolbar interface, where you can apply different filters and view modes. Though I don't remember exactly, I know that this was very useful (it's a great program). -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compress on exit
ON Friday, January 30, 2004, 11:28:53 AM, you wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? Hi Jean, EXIT means, when you exit TB! like File|Exit or A+lt-X. Not when you move from folder to folder. Because it will purge and compress each folder on exit it will take longer to exit. This can be a problem when you are the kind of person that just presses the off switch on the computer and expect windows to exit and the computer to shut-off. Always use this option on the Inbox, because all mail first enters the inbox before it might get filtered to other folders. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There is no such thing as a golfer playing over his head. A hot streak is simply a glimpse of a golfer´s true potential. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP-S issue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Freitag, 30. Januar 2004, 20:22:53]: I think I might be getting a little confused here. Are you using SMTPS, or just SMTP Authentication such as CRAM-MD5? From the subject, I assumed SMTPS, but from what I keep reading in some emails, it seems like just authentication. I am using SMTPS (port 465). If you have a look at the log file earlier in this thread, TheBat still tries to authenticate primarly using MD5, don't ask me why. Regards, Oliver -- PGP welcome. Click [ http://www.oliverwolfram.de/pgp.txt ] for my public key. Fingerprint: 0294 8249 8EE6 D4C0 DFB2 F3A2 ED5F AD45 C90B 6C05 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: toolbar
1/30/2004, 3:40 PM: dAniel said in toolbar dh Hello bats, dh What about a toolbar on the message list window, that gives the dh ability to apply a Display mode (View/Display) and filter (RegExp) dh quickly? [snip] dh I used 40tude Dialog [snip] can apply different filters and view dh modes. Yes, absolutely! I would love to see the quick search toolbar in the main window expanded to a more useful state--something much like Dialog's implementation. And, yes, I would love to have this quicksearch toolbar available in the message view window, as well. Regarding an upgraded quicksearch toolbar, what I'd most like to see is a reg-ex toggle. Perhaps a view-mode drop down would also be a nice addition. -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org Do you have blacks, too? -George W. Bush Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
Hello The_Bat! Users, Did anyone see the PC Mag review of The Bat yet? They gave The Bat! 2 marks out of a possible 5 Outlook 2003 received 5 marks. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1474234,00.asp -- John Morse The_Bat! 2.03.47 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (2195) Bayesit 0.4gm Spam Plugin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
Hello Mr/Ms TBUDL, on Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:16:26 -0600, you wrote (at least in part): JM Hello The_Bat! Users, JM Did anyone see the PC Mag review of The Bat yet? JM They gave The Bat! 2 marks out of a possible 5 JM Outlook 2003 received 5 marks. JM http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1474234,00.asp Just some comments. Lookout2003: Tabs let you roll up (or clump) messages by sender name; day, month, or week received; message size; and so on. Well, part of it is sorting by a something column. Others _can_ be achieved using the message finder. Probably TB can be enhanced for such a view without using the msg finder. Lookout 2003: If you are working in another application, a small window appears when you receive a new message. Uhm, flying-bat to inform about new mail / mail ticker (I don't use that one) Lookout 2003: Other security features, such as blocking images and HTML, are easy to define. Geezz... did M$ wakeup at last??? So implementing something existing gets you to number one??? O yeah, it's M$ I had my doubts about PCmag for some time, but now I don't trust PCmag anymore... -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
1/30/2004, 9:43 PM: Peter said in PC Mag Review Of The Bat! JM Did anyone see the PC Mag review of The Bat yet? JM They gave The Bat! 2 marks out of a possible 5 JM Outlook 2003 received 5 marks. I'd probably give it the same review if I fired it up for a period of five minutes to write a review. PO I had my doubts about PCmag for some time, but now I don't trust PCmag PO anymore... I remember the days when expert computer users wrote for computer magazines. Now it's apparently sports writers who can't find an openning in their preferred genre. Or perhaps Luddites. One thing that really caught me off guard was: Overly cute and at times confusing, It seems to me that the typical argument is that TB is aesthetically lacking, not overly cute. What copy of TB are they using? They seemed to consider the mail ticker a bug rather than a feature. Furthermore, rather than recognizing the value in having a choice of SPAM filtering method (I'd rather be able to chose among plug-ins than be forced a proprietary mechanism) they dismiss it as an acknowledgement that TB! cannot stand on its own two feet in the e-mail market. Most troubling, is: How can you write a review about TB without mentioning its filtering system, TBUDL and, most importantly, its template/macro system?! The Bat! doesn't take flight, Eudora is customizable and Outlook is the king of e-mail clients. Right. sigh -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. -e e cummings The Bat! 2.03.47, | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 9:16:26 PM, John Morse wrote in the message PC Mag Review Of The Bat! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did anyone see the PC Mag review of The Bat yet? They gave The Bat! 2 marks out of a possible 5 Outlook 2003 received 5 marks. It seems to me that this review does not take into consideration The Bat!'s most powerful features: filters, templates, and the ability to handle a large message base (Have you ever tried to run Outlook with 10,000+ e-mail messages? It's not pretty. [There's a reason it auto-archives every two weeks]). I have a question about this part of the review, however: Further complicating matters, the help files have been poorly translated from Moldovan. Are the help files really written in Moldovan and then translated into English? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 11:12:05 PM, Allen wrote in the message PC Mag Review Of The Bat! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Eudora is customizable Not only is Eudora customizable, but its interface is one of the most intuitive in this roundup. Personally, I don't see how, looking at their screen shot: http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/5/0,3363,sz=1i=56417,00.gif THAT interface can be intuitive. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Everything can be filed under miscellaneous. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 9:16:26 PM, John Morse wrote in the message PC Mag Review Of The Bat! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did anyone see the PC Mag review of The Bat yet? They gave The Bat! 2 marks out of a possible 5 Outlook 2003 received 5 marks. If you don't like this review, please submit your own. Try to be objective, however. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. I'd love to go out with you, but I have to stay home and see if I snore. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
